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Freedom of Speech was put in the constitution so you could criticize the government's wrongdoings without fear of retribution. Now WHY would you want to tarnish our beautiful country that GAVE you that freedom by criticizing it?!
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RagnarokAngel posted:Freedom of Speech was put in the constitution so you could criticize the government's wrongdoings without fear of retribution. Now WHY would you want to tarnish our beautiful country that GAVE you that freedom by criticizing it?! Our soldiers died for your right to say that, which is why you have no right to say it.
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CoolZidane posted:Our soldiers died for your right to say that, which is why you have no right to say it.  The soldier in the wheel chair is Ron Kovic and he proceeds to curse the teacher out in front of her entire class
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Sep 6, 2011 13:49
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That seems really mean spirited toward the soldier.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:15
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I feel most patriotic when I'm guilted into it.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:37
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Seems to me the other kids are being disrespectful by not taking advantage of the right the guy lost his legs to protect.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:40
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Z-Magic posted:
The worst part is that it appears the teacher keeps the solider stashed away somewhere, probably a janitor's closet, so he can be wheeled out only when she stands to gain from his situation.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:44
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Z-Magic posted:
10-Year-Old, Won't Pledge Allegiance To A Country That Discriminates Against Gays quote:After asking his parents whether it was against the law not to stand for the pledge, Will decided to do something. On Monday, Oct. 5, when the other kids in his class stood up to recite the pledge of allegiance, he remained sitting down. The class had a substitute teacher that week, a retired educator from the district, who knew Will's mother and grandmother. Though the substitute tried to make him stand up, he respectfully refused. He did it again the next day, and the next day.
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Sep 6, 2011 14:45
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Z-Magic posted:
Thank god we're turning the Middle-East into the surface of the moon so people are once again allowed to say some fuckin' pledge to the state. They almost took that away from us.
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Sep 6, 2011 15:06
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Seriously. What war fought in that kid's lifetime was about defending the right to say the pledge?
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Sep 6, 2011 15:24
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HipGnosis posted:Seriously. What war fought in that kid's lifetime was about defending the right to say the pledge? The one against terrorists who hate (y)our freedoms.
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Sep 6, 2011 15:34
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JerkyBunion posted:10-Year-Old, Won't Pledge Allegiance To A Country That Discriminates Against Gays quote:Jay Phillips, asked if his son was prepared for the media attention, said his son saw it as an opportunity to raise awareness. "He felt that just because he's ten years old doesn't mean he doesn't have opinions, doesn't mean he doesn't have rights, and doesn't mean he can't make a difference."
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Sep 6, 2011 15:45
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Someone wheel out a corpse for this kid. That'll teach 'em.
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Sep 6, 2011 16:32
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JerkyBunion posted:10-Year-Old, Won't Pledge Allegiance To A Country That Discriminates Against Gays That kid owns. Get him to primary Obama.
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Sep 6, 2011 17:21
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The Macaroni posted:Wow, can we get a million more kids like him?
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Sep 6, 2011 18:05
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Habibi posted:What, you want a million kids not eating their vegetables because not everyone can afford vegetables? Eating vegetables is good for you. Engaging in meaningless patriotism has no effect on your health. Poor analogy.
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Sep 6, 2011 18:58
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Eating vegetables is good for you. Engaging in meaningless patriotism has no effect on your health. Poor analogy. I think you're showing a lack of appreciation for the good American values which are magically imbued upon you when you recite the pledge of allegiance 5 days a week. I mean you do know it's a spell right? 
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Sep 6, 2011 19:02
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Eating vegetables is good for you. Engaging in meaningless patriotism has no effect on your health. Poor analogy. I uh...think that went right over you.
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Sep 6, 2011 19:12
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Habibi posted:I uh...think that went right over you. I'm very short, I'm used to that. 
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Sep 6, 2011 19:16
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This isn't so much political, but it's closely related to some of our other political emails by an interesting thread! I saw this on Wikipedia: quote:A 2007 report in The Courier-Mail, which cited the National Geographic magazine and unnamed "genetic scientists", said that red hair is likely to die out in the near future.[31] Other blogs and news sources ran similar stories that attributed the research to the magazine or the "Oxford Hair Foundation". However, a HowStuffWorks article says that the foundation was funded by hair-dye maker Procter & Gamble, and that other experts had dismissed the research as either lacking in evidence or simply bogus. The National Geographic article in fact states "while redheads may decline, the potential for red isn't going away".[32] I had heard the line that in a couple generations, there wouldn't be anyone left with red hair, because it's a recessive gene. I didn't think much about it, but I guess it was bogus. The interesting part I have bolded: the hoax was created by Procter & Gamble, the same company that was the victim of a 30 year old hoax that its President was in league with Satan, and whose former Vice President recently sent out a chain email accusing Barack Obama of being in league with Satan. Basically, I'm not trying to get all conspiracy theory here, but what is it with Procter & Gamble and hoaxes.
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XyloJW posted:This isn't so much political, but it's closely related to some of our other political emails by an interesting thread! 
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Sep 8, 2011 00:47
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some bad email posted:
So why not just develop other fuel sources instead?
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Sep 8, 2011 00:49
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apapersack posted:So why not just develop other fuel sources instead? This is what really puzzles me about the whole foreign oil thing - The US doesn't have a national oil company and doesn't have federal price controls on fuel. That means there are no mechanisms other than market forces, taxes and subsidies to alter the cost of gasoline i.e. congress can't pass legislation to set lower gas prices and Obama can't pressure ExxonMobil to drop the cost at the pump. In other countries, they do this; that's why the major oil producers have such cheap gas domestically. Since all the oil in the US is held by private, multi-national entities, it doesn't matter where the oil actually comes from. Crude is fungible and aside from some chemistry, you can't distinguish oil from Saudi Arabia from oil from Texas; it all comes from the same market pool, effectively. In other words, if Marathon or BP hits the mother lode in Texas, it likely wouldn't drop oil prices at all. Instead, they will likely sit on those reserves and create an artificial supply restriction. Actually, scratch that: It isn't just "likely," it has already happened. Opening ANWR to drilling would just put more oil in the hands of private companies but not consumers. Also, the main bottleneck in oil in the US isn't the supply of crude, but refinery capacity. Only one permit for oil refineries has been filed since 1975 and overall capacity has gone down, despite massive increases in consumption, because oil companies deliberately consolidiated their resources to create more choke points for fuel. In addition, the majority of our foreign oil actually comes from Canada. So even if we get off foreign oil imports, we are still dependent on international oil markets. More drilling will solve nothing and given how much oil companies are subsidized and how little they pay in taxes, we will scarcely make enough money to offset the environmental consequences. T Zero fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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Amarkov posted:I think you're showing a lack of appreciation for the good American values which are magically imbued upon you when you recite the pledge of allegiance 5 days a week. I mean you do know it's a spell right? Magic Circle against Islam
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Sep 8, 2011 12:33
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T Zero posted:blah blah blah whatever dude, brown people hate us, brown people have oil, therefore oil prices are high.
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Sep 8, 2011 17:12
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T Zero posted:Because the goal isn't to actually solve the problem. It's to make more money. Economic experts constantly state that increasing domestic drilling will have no substantial impact on oil costs. Not only does it take years to begin production, our overall supply is a small part of the world supply of oil, which as you noted is the primary driving force of the price. The US produces about 8-9% of the World's oil, so even if we upped production by 25% you're talking about a 2% change in the overall global supply which won't have any noticeable impact at the pump. Any benefit it might give could be easily wiped out by the markets freaking out over something happening in the Middle East or Russia, or just loving because.
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Not to derail this thread further, but oil prices don't appear to be inflated by increased demand or reduced supply anyway. MoJo just put up an new article on speculation's role in inflating the prices of oil. There was a big thread about it here in D&D not too long ago too.
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apapersack posted:So why not just develop other fuel sources instead? It seems somebody has no concept of investing in infrastructure. It makes us no money? Where would our economy be without the interstate highway system and rail to transport goods and raw materials? Where would our economy be without the roads that let us get to and from work? The power grid that carries electricity to our offices/factories/shops (so we can be productive) and our homes (so we can enjoy the results of our productivity)? Could the US economy ever be #1 with infrastructure like, say, Somalia's? Heh. We are 2 trillion dollars behind simply on road infrastructure maintenance. Our roads, highways, and bridges are crumbling; how are we to maintain an economic lead when businesses can't move product to shops or ports because bridges have collapsed, or (more commonly) have to spend 2x as much on truck fuel because they need to divert around bridges that are no longer able to carry the weight of a loaded semi, or because they spend extra hours idling in slow traffic due to congestion? Other countries spend far more on infrastructure maintenance (China spends 3x as much as a percentage of GDP). Falling behind on this is a detriment to everyone in the US, particularly businesses, which rely on a stable and strong infrastructure more than anyone else. Imagine a Wal-Mart where the forklifts are breaking down, the barcode scanners don't always work, the door locks occasionally get stuck, and a third of the refrigerators can't maintain proper temperatures. It's costing the business extra when the employees have to hand-carry things and make five times as many trips to the stock room, when product goes bad, and when fewer customers show up because the experience has become inconvenient compared to CanadaMart across the street. And this guy is telling the manager: quote:We need to stop doing stupid poo poo like repairing refrigerators and forklifts to create jobs, yea its a quick fix but it makes us no money Talk about seeing the forest for the trees...
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Bring back the CCC.
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why would we invest in infrastructure? That's a libtard idea. We should instead invest more into our military budget and guns god damnit.
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Sep 9, 2011 07:38
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Z-Magic posted:
I can only think of this
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Sep 9, 2011 09:04
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JonDev posted:I can only think of this I always found it weird that the "rah rah get the guv'ment off mah back" types often get really offended when people don't say the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Radish posted:I always found it weird that the "rah rah get the guv'ment off mah back" types often get really offended when people don't say the Pledge of Allegiance. It's because the Pledge dates back to when Jesus signed the Constitution, when men were men, and minorities couldn't hold office, not like your "modern government".
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I got guilted into joining Facebook by my college buddies, which has resulted in many other old friends coming out of the woodwork. One of them has turned into a Fox News drone. quote:So I was thinking the other day after reading an article from AP about Egyptians storming the Israeli embassy and the police sat and watched because the people considered the rioters heroes. It got me to thinking about how a lot of people say it's our fault muslims hate us and that Americans are evil. I however fail to see us sacking embassies while people cheer us as heroes. I can't recall the last time we stuck bombs to kids and sent them in to die killing civillians, or when we had women and children march in front of our tanks to set off all the mines so we could invade another country. I'm also glad that in the USA if your a woman and a man rapes you, you can report the crime without fear of being stoned to death for being raped! This guy used to be fun to hang out with. I do not know what happened.
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There's no rationalizing it. He's just a bigoted piece of trash.
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It's always kind of funny reacquainting yourself with someone you had a lot of fun with at one point in your past, and then seeing something like that Fox News barf. You have to wonder how they seem to function rationally in so many other respects of their life and then just totally give up even processing something like that. Saw that recently with an old highschool friend quote:If you cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor. Which made me want to just comment, "Yeah! America should be more like those awful barbaric countries that no one wants to live in! Perfect list of countries we should aspire to be more like." Instead I just unfriended him. Total Party Kill fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:It's always kind of funny reacquainting yourself with someone you had a lot of fun with at one point in your past, and then seeing something like that Fox News barf. You have to wonder how they seem to function rationally in so many other respects of their life and then just totally give up even processing something like that. Also most of that poo poo isn't true anyway, welfare and food stamps and poo poo are given to legal citizen children of the migrants, not to the migrants themselves.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:It's always kind of funny reacquainting yourself with someone you had a lot of fun with at one point in your past, and then seeing something like that Fox News barf. You have to wonder how they seem to function rationally in so many other respects of their life and then just totally give up even processing something like that. It's amazing how we should take North Korea's position on border security or Saudi Arabia's position on religious freedom in regards to the Park 51 Community Center, but suggest that our jails should be like Norway's or our healthcare should be like Canada's...
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Not only is the list of the things that they "get" not accurate, and the list of other countries is a who's who of "countries we would never want to be like". But it completely ignores the fact that illegal aliens who get caught in the US get deported. More than 350000 a year. They are comparing those that get caught in those countries to those that don't in ours.
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Dr Christmas posted:It's amazing how we should take North Korea's position on border security or Saudi Arabia's position on religious freedom in regards to the Park 51 Community Center, but suggest that our jails should be like Norway's or our healthcare should be like Canada's... Sharia law and communism are bad, except for when...
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