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grover posted:Haven't you seen Top Gun? When Maverick is too close for missiles, he switches to guns! Thanks for the info, this makes more sense now. I misunderstood/underestimated advances in gunsights and such. I think my confusion was mostly (mis)informed by a factoid remembered from a history lecture many years ago that Spitfire's in WWII expended an average of 4,000 rounds per enemy aircraft downed. But they had eight wing-mounted 50 cals going full blast. Was that history prof crazy, or have we really progressed that far in sighting/round efficiency? Cause if we have, that's an amazing improvement. I know, of course, it's all hypothetical since F-22's and F-35's haven't ever actually shot anything for real.
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yeah man there are computers and poo poo now
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Yeah they tried that with the F4 Phantom II and it didnt work out so well. Reading about the F4 Phantom was illuminating, thanks. The wiki article lists F4 Mig kills by method, and shows that the late-added gun was useful. However, it also lists two Mig-17 kills via "maneuvering tactics." What the hell does that mean? I have a badass mental image of F4's with tailing Migs intentionally navigating canyons or something ala Independence Day but this seems stupid.
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probably caused them to crash into the ground or each other or who knows.
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IntangiblePanda posted:Reading about the F4 Phantom was illuminating, thanks. The wiki article lists F4 Mig kills by method, and shows that the late-added gun was useful. However, it also lists two Mig-17 kills via "maneuvering tactics." What the hell does that mean? As has been stated, it means the bad guys flew into the ground during the course of the engagement. A maneuvering kill is as valid as a solid guns or missiles kill. An EF-111 unarmed jamming aircraft got a kill during Desert Storm...on the opening night of the war an Iraqi Mirage F1 started chasing after the Spark Vark. It headed for the deck and pulled out at low level; the Mirage followed and failed to pull out. The Spark Vark crew was credited with the kill, flying an unarmed aircraft.
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IntangiblePanda posted:
New gunsights are leaps and bounds ahead of where they were. In WWII, the most advanced gunsights were holographic sights (with reticles not unlike what you see in Vidja games), except they were the size of a coffee maker. These days, a HUD gunsight will show you where your gun is pointed and will show you expected bullet drop. They actually have been used in air to air combat! In the mid 90s an F-14 equipped with a 20MM Vulcan cannon blew another F-14 to bits during a training exercise because they had accidentally loaded it with live rounds.
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Red Crown posted:They actually have been used in air to air combat! In the mid 90s an F-14 equipped with a 20MM Vulcan cannon blew another F-14 to bits during a training exercise because they had accidentally loaded it with live rounds. Gonna need a source on this...it's impossible to get a live propellant TP or HEI round confused with the dummy rounds, and aircraft fly sorties all the time without any type of rounds on board. The only time you would load up is if you were planning on shooting something, either HEI for combat or TP for target practice. Unless there's a joke here that I'm completely missing.
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Aug 19, 2011 03:57
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Is there much of a difference between HEI and TP?
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Aug 19, 2011 04:08
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High explosive incendiary vs target practice? One explodes in a fiery mess, one doesn't.
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Once again, I don't know poo poo about planes. They don't shoot incendiary rounds all the time do they?
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My wife is mildly freaking out about me getting out in 2 years. I'm going to Korea for a year, then a real unit in the Army to see how things run and if it's a fit for me (Fort Huachuca, not so much) Her dad is an officer with 25 years in, she doesn't really know much about living in the civilian world and knows that the economy is in the shitter. To be honest though, from what I've seen and with my skillset and clearance it will be pretty easy to find a contracting job or a DA civilian job. We're both not sure how stable contracting jobs are, my mother did technical editing for the government and had contracts that were about a year long, at most. I'm wondering if what I'm seeing is reality. It's not easy to find a contracting job, but if you have the skills needed and aren't a dumbshit you'll be able to get a job eventually. Also, how stable are contracting jobs? I don't really know how long contracts tend to run on stuff other than editing the manual for the navy sea water filter or something like that. Thanks.
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Casimir Radon posted:Once again, I don't know poo poo about planes. They don't shoot incendiary rounds all the time do they? There are three main types of 20mm ammunition: combat stuff, target practice stuff, and dummy. The dummy stuff is completely inert; it's just a hunk of metal in the shape of a 20mm round. It's primarily used for load crew training, to give the loaders rounds to run through the UALS/LALS and the aircraft without having them gently caress up training or combat rounds that can actually be used for something. Target practice stuff is a round loaded with live propellant and a completely inert shell (in the case of TP) or an inert shell with a tracer (TPT). It's used for banner shoots or other target practice where you need to fire a projectile but don't want to be spraying high explosives over the range unnecessarily. Combat stuff is either HEI (High-Explosive Incendiary), API (Armor Piercing Incendiary), or SAPHEI (Semi-Armor Piercing High-Explosive Incendiary). The differences should be self-explanatory in the name. Combat stuff is only used for that, combat (other than testing and some very limited familiarization shoots). HEI is by far the most common, usually the M56 round that has been around since Vietnam (no poo poo, some of the rounds in the stockpile here are from lots that were manufactured in the late'60s). API isn't used much these days if at all (I've never seen any), while SAPHEI is from the newer PGU series. It was designed to give increased performance over the M5x series ammunition. The problem with the PGU series is that it has a disturbing tendency to prematurely detonate, causing aircraft damage.
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iyaayas01 posted:As has been stated, it means the bad guys flew into the ground during the course of the engagement. A maneuvering kill is as valid as a solid guns or missiles kill. An EF-111 unarmed jamming aircraft got a kill during Desert Storm...on the opening night of the war an Iraqi Mirage F1 started chasing after the Spark Vark. It headed for the deck and pulled out at low level; the Mirage followed and failed to pull out. The Spark Vark crew was credited with the kill, flying an unarmed aircraft. Right, Independence Day. Got it. Seriously though, I looked up the EF-111 Iraq engagement in 1991 and that poo poo was unbelievably hardcore.
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I'm a civilian who recently re-established contact with a cousin who claims he's been Army special operations for a long time. The trouble is that unlike most of my removed family members we actually got along really well when he visited down here and we're talking about everyone taking a vacation together in a few months since his family is only a 4 hours away and he commutes from NC alot. It was nice to be in touch with a that part of my family again. So I guess what I'm asking is, is there anywhere I can call or check to see if this guy is a fake before I let him around my family much? I'm not trying to be a douche and pry into some guy's privacy or past, but I read the fakers thread, and uhm. I mean, I already know he's a borderline nut and that's expected in my family, I'll buy a beer for anyone, but I don't want some faker weirdo hanging around my family.
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My guard unit called me today and asked if I want to combatives level II at Rhode Island. I said gently caress yes of course. They didn't have a lot of info, so does anyone know where I'd actually be doing this class at? I can't think of any fort/base in RI.
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gleep glop posted:My guard unit called me today and asked if I want to combatives level II at Rhode Island. I said gently caress yes of course. They didn't have a lot of info, so does anyone know where I'd actually be doing this class at? I can't think of any fort/base in RI. Is it this? :^) http://www.facebook.com/pages/RI-Combatives/181560088541447?sk=info
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Currently going through the painstaking process of adding my wife to my Tricare plan (Nat. Guard), and I figure while I'm at it I may as well set up my dental. Who knows how I would go about that? The tricare lady I talked to didn't seem to know.
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physeter posted:I'm a civilian who recently re-established contact with a cousin who claims he's been Army special operations for a long time. The trouble is that unlike most of my removed family members we actually got along really well when he visited down here and we're talking about everyone taking a vacation together in a few months since his family is only a 4 hours away and he commutes from NC alot. It was nice to be in touch with a that part of my family again. "Special Operations" covers a wide variety of jobs, from the poo poo you see on Call of Duty, pilots, EOD, all the way to support positions that are exactly the same as the regular Army. North Carolina is home of Ft. Bragg, where a large majority of Special Operations guys are trained, as well as stationed. There is no list of "Dudes who are in Special Operations" as a portion of their missions are covert/clandestine. It wouldn't make any sense. The easiest way is to just try to talk to them about it. If they seem like a decent person, and don't spend the entire time telling you how awesome they are or the cool poo poo they've done, they're probably legit. If they tell you they killed Osama..
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So my religious preference is wrong on my ERB and my ID tags and am going to get it corrected. Can I really have it changed to Jedi/whatever the gently caress I want?
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DoktorLoken posted:So my religious preference is wrong on my ERB and my ID tags and am going to get it corrected. Can I really have it changed to Jedi/whatever the gently caress I want? Your ERB has to be a 'real' religion, and officially made tags have to be as well. No Pref is what you get when you're agnostic/atheist. There isn't anything stopping you from going to one of the many, many places near any post that can make custom tags say whatever you want.
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Vasudus posted:Your ERB has to be a 'real' religion, and officially made tags have to be as well. No Pref is what you get when you're agnostic/atheist. There's no such thing as an official religion list, you can do whatever pleases you. They even changed it so you can get whatever you want on your headstone (as far as religious belief) now. This is as close as DoD gets to having an "official list": http://www.cem.va.gov/hm/hmemb.asp posted:EMBLEM Smoke Crack fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Aug 25, 2011 08:43
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I'm deploying later this year. I'm a nasty girl. Is it possible that I can visit Japan without a passport in my time out? I mean, we got tons of bases there and stuff, does every soldier/sailor/airman have a visa and a passport? I gotta visit my wife's family (she's a jappo), but I don't know if I have enough time to get a passport before I'm gone forever. Also, can I do it with space available flights?
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Nillerz posted:I'm deploying later this year. I'm a nasty girl. Is it possible that I can visit Japan without a passport in my time out? I mean, we got tons of bases there and stuff, does every soldier/sailor/airman have a visa and a passport? I gotta visit my wife's family (she's a jappo), but I don't know if I have enough time to get a passport before I'm gone forever. Also, can I do it with space available flights? Yeah, not gonna happen without a passport. If you are on orders, some places let you enter the country on orders without a passport as part of the SOFA (I know at least Korea does; I'd imagine Japan is the same way) but if you don't have orders, gotta have a passport. Shouldn't need a visa as long as you don't plan on staying past whatever the cutoff is (should be measured in months for a U.S. citizen traveling to a country like Japan), but you'll definitely need a passport to get in...you don't just get to magically skip immigration/customs even if you are traveling space-a. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Aug 26, 2011 |
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You can get a passport pretty quickly. I needed one on short notice a couple weeks ago, went down to the Passport Agency in DC at 9am and walked out with it at 3pm. Most larger cities have a Passport Agency. It's not like it was terribly expensive either, just $60 on top of the standard fees, so it came out to be $195. The web expediting services are just going to the Passport Agency for you and charging you an extra $200+
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Nillerz posted:I'm deploying later this year. I'm a nasty girl. Is it possible that I can visit Japan without a passport in my time out? I mean, we got tons of bases there and stuff, does every soldier/sailor/airman have a visa and a passport? I gotta visit my wife's family (she's a jappo), but I don't know if I have enough time to get a passport before I'm gone forever. Also, can I do it with space available flights? I had to get a passport before deployment too... I spent 208 dollars and had it in 6 business days. Do you not have 6 business days? If you don't... then give somebody a special power of attorney to check a P.O. Box, then have them ship it to said P.O. Box and get that person to mail it to you in theater. I did mine all through the post office off post.
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Aug 28, 2011 22:57
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Or you can get it same day by going to one of the processing facilities as mentioned by OGA..
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Problem solved! Thanks, guys! Next quick question, does anyone have any references or information on getting Space A travel done right?
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Nillerz posted:Problem solved! Thanks, guys! AMC's Travel website is probably a good place to start.
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edit: Turns out this means nothing!Department of Defense posted:Dear [me], Other issues with my enlistment: I was attempting to get a financial waiver for money I owe to a school for attempting to go to college with no plan to pay for(DUMB!). I had previously received a medical waiver for having an appendectomy at age 10. So my question: Am I simply hosed? Is there any way of fighting this or getting around it or something? Start looking at other options not involving the military? edit: VVV This is the letter I got after submitting the paperwork to get a waiver. HarmB fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Sep 1, 2011 |
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Harmburger posted:So, I just got a letter in the mail. Prior to receiving this, I was going to enter the DEP for the US Navy(according to the recruiter) in the next day or so. I just now received this letter after hours, so I haven't talked to him yet, but it seems like he won't be able to do much. Here's the letter transcribed: I'm not a recruiter or doctor, but that sounds like something that would be waiverable. Bring it up to your recruiter as soon as possible.
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Someone in GIP posted a kick rear end shoe shine procedure a while ago, I just can't remember where or when... Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Slather polish on shoes. Put shoes in oven on low heat, polish melts into leather's pores. Use buffer brush to knock off excess polish.
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Godholio posted:Slather polish on shoes. Put shoes in oven on low heat, polish melts into leather's pores. Use buffer brush to knock off excess polish. For your appetizer, lightly toasted parade gloss. Your main will be getting shouted at by cadre with a dessert of tears and scrubbing toilets. My uncle was in the Irish Army- he actually sprayed black spray paint on his shoes before formation one day.
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Are LCACs referred to as "ship" or "boat" by their crew? I had an argument with an army captain that I presumed to be talking out his rear end and so I went with reason and sided with "boat", but lacked sufficient arguments to back it up and make him look like the rear end he was talking out of. (I went with the launch-argument, btw)
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How is asthma treated by military recruitment these days? I've had it all my life, but I'm extremely fit, and with two puffs off an inhaler (and a pill I take every night) I can run/swim/row fuckall hardcore for hours and never have a problem. I've heard you can lie about it, but are you not allowed or not able to take your meds for it once you're in?
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Blind Rasputin posted:How is asthma treated by military recruitment these days? I've had it all my life, but I'm extremely fit, and with two puffs off an inhaler (and a pill I take every night) I can run/swim/row fuckall hardcore for hours and never have a problem. If you have asthma you can forget it. Sorry.
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Blind Rasputin posted:How is asthma treated by military recruitment these days? I've had it all my life, but I'm extremely fit, and with two puffs off an inhaler (and a pill I take every night) I can run/swim/row fuckall hardcore for hours and never have a problem. The only way you can get in with asthma is if it is completely gone. I had allergy induced asthma when I was a kid, but allergy shots completely cured me. Even then I had to prove that I was under 13 when I was cured, they're pretty hard on asthma. Don't lie about it either, without your medicine all the running you do will end up loving you up and you'll get thrown out for lying about medical poo poo.
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Stuhlmajor posted:Are LCACs referred to as "ship" or "boat" by their crew? Why not just call it a hovercraft? :p
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Need some more goon help here. Im looking to transfer NG units. I live in NJ but joined the PA guard after leaving active. My unit's armory moved so it's now a three hour drive for me and frankly isn't worth it. I'm not MOSQ in my unit yet, in a 13M in an MI company currently. The command is terrible, and it really is making me hate the guard. What can I do to possibly transfer to the NJ guard? I know I have to speak to my unit to but I have a feeling they'd try and dick me over.
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