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Gynovore posted:I have a few questions about RotS that I've been wondering about for some time. First, when Padme squirts out Luke, the medical droid looks down and says, "It's a boy... oh wait, twins! What a surprise!" But, the technology we have IRL lets us know the sex and number of children at 4-5 months. Given the level of technology in the Star Wars universe, one would think Padme would know it was twins soon after Anakin rolled off her and lit up a space cigarette. Hey, plenty of people in the real world don't want to know the sex of the kid. She may have just had a standing order not to tell her. Besides, the medical droid DID know it was twins -- it said something to Obi-Wan before the birth. As for the voice one, I'm sure it was mostly done in his own voice box, but Lucas may well have tweaked it in post. Seems like the sort of thing he would do.
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SG-83 posted:I don't know about the Kindle, but I can't see any of the author's notes in the free sample on the Nook. I see the super-scripted numbers for the notes, but that's it. I'm a bit hesitant to spend $15 if the same holds true for the full version. Haven't bought it yet, but I just tried the free sample on Kindle. It appears to work the same as any ebook with footnotes. The superscript numbers are hyperlinks to the notes. The reason you can't see the notes in the sample is because they are all technically at the end of the book, which isn't part of the sample. It should work fine with the full book.
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Sep 9, 2011 19:32
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Yeah I ended up buying it on kindle. It works fine on my iPad (don't actually own a kindle). It is kind of annoying having to flip back and forth from the notes section to the actual book but it's not that big of a deal.
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Sep 9, 2011 22:39
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Powered Descent posted:Hey, plenty of people in the real world don't want to know the sex of the kid. She may have just had a standing order not to tell her. Besides, the medical droid DID know it was twins -- it said something to Obi-Wan before the birth. The really lame part was that the all-powerful Chosen One couldn't just tell through the Force. In the Zahn trilogy, Leia was pregnant and could feel the twins through the Force. I think they just felt like raw emotion since they couldn't form coherent thoughts.
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Sep 10, 2011 04:43
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Gynovore posted:Second, when Palpatine is zapped by his own Force lightning, and his face gets all icky and his voice becomes... pretty cool to be honest, was his voice digitally altered, or did actor Ian McDiarmid do it himself? There was definitely some work done to it; there are some parts immediately after his, er, disfigurement when the voice has a horribly unnatural reverb and low tone. The more galling thing, though, is just how terrible the Palpatine makeup was in ROTS. They got it so right in Jedi, and then in Episode III it looks like he's wearing three inches of foam on his face.
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Sep 10, 2011 04:50
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Timby posted:The more galling thing, though, is just how terrible the Palpatine makeup was in ROTS. They got it so right in Jedi, and then in Episode III it looks like he's wearing three inches of foam on his face. In Jedi, he looked like a really old evil guy. In ROTS, he looked like Bib Fortuna. In the prequels, they REALLY had trouble making characters like Yoda and Palp look good compared to their older versions in the OT.
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Sep 10, 2011 19:07
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You know, everyone loves to bash the Death Star engineers for putting what amounted to a self-destruct button on the original Death Star that allowed a mere snubfighter to destroy the entire station with one well-placed shot. What a bunch of idiots they were for allowing such a critical vulnerability in a military vessel. I think it's time I came to their defense. Firstly, the Death Star needed that thermal exhaust port. The Death Star's reactor produces an enormous amount of exhaust that simply must be vented. You cannot ever close it off for any reason, even for a short while. Stick a cork in your car's exhaust pipe and see how long it will run. The engineers knew the exhaust port was a liability, so they took care to defend it properly. Firstly, they ray-shielded it, so that it couldn't be blasted. Secondly, they surrounded the area with lots of turbolaser batteries and TIE fighter bays, so that there would be plenty of defense against snubfighter attack. And these defenses worked rather well. Only a handful of the fighters that attacked the Death Star survived the battle. The real problem was that the Death Star was not Jedi-proof. The engineers figured it was next-to-impossible for a targeting computer to place proton torpedoes into the port, but they never expected that one of the Rebel pilots would be trained in the Force. That's because Vader and the Emperor had proudly declared to the galaxy that the Jedi had all been exterminated. Why implement a safeguard against a supposedly non-existent hazard? But it turns out that a Jedi DID survive the purge, and trained a young Rebel pilot in the Force. Had the engineers known there were force-trained pilots out there, they might have put in some anti-Jedi countermeasures. But Vader and the Emperor didn't want to admit their purge wasn't thorough. For shame.
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Sep 10, 2011 21:31
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JediTalentAgent posted:In Jedi, he looked like a really old evil guy. In ROTS, he looked like Bib Fortuna.   At least they kept the "I-will-rape-your-corpse" eyes. But that make up. geez. It looks obviously fake, whereas the ROTJ convinces you that he really is that ancient.
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Sep 10, 2011 21:59
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There's 20-odd years between ROTS and ROTJ. The Emperor's facial scars yellowed as he aged.
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Sep 10, 2011 22:02
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Pesky Splinter posted:
I'm sure some of it is the makeup, but they also kept the Emperor in the shadows at all times in ROTJ. Showing him sans hood in a well-lit room killed the effect somewhat. Also, Ian McDiarmid was only 39 when ROTJ was filmed compared to 61 for ROTS. You're not going to exactly replicate the look with that age (and weight) difference. edit: Reading IMDB and Wikipedia after posting this: I did not realize that Denis Lawson (aka Wedge Antilles) is Ewan MacGregor's uncle and also went to drama school with Ian McDiarmid. The picture on Lawson's Wiki page shows that Wedge will still have the look of a badass pilot in later years. Sax Offender fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Sep 10, 2011 |
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Sep 10, 2011 22:10
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I think it's probably yet another example of "actually caring and making something look good practically" versus "do a rush job and fix it (shittily) in post-production".
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Sep 10, 2011 22:11
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Baron Bifford posted:There's 20-odd years between ROTS and ROTJ. The Emperor's facial scars yellowed as he aged.
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Sep 10, 2011 22:33
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Casimir Radon posted:Well it would have been clever to show hintings of his deformations without outright spelling out how he got that way. But no. They tried to do that in AotC. The dark side was supposed to be corrupting his flesh. It was changed in Sith for some reason
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Sep 10, 2011 23:44
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I guess he always looked a bit like Bib. He just looked so 'off' in ROTS, though. You know, after rewatching the scene where Palpy gives his Empire speech in ROTS, I still think it would have worked so much better as a hologram instead of him being there in person. It would show a sense self-consciousness and possibly weakness on his part to be unable to physically be there after his true face was fully revealed. In addition, his big brother-like visage glowing larger than life over the senate, giving the feeling that the Palpatine that they all believed they knew was dead and this was the real eternal and ethereal 'spirit' of his Empire.
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Sep 11, 2011 01:41
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Baron Bifford posted:You know, everyone loves to bash the Death Star engineers for putting what amounted to a self-destruct button on the original Death Star that allowed a mere snubfighter to destroy the entire station with one well-placed shot. What a bunch of idiots they were for allowing such a critical vulnerability in a military vessel. I think it's time I came to their defense. It probably wouldn't have hurt to add some twists and turns to the exhaust pipe instead of making it a straight line.
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Sep 11, 2011 07:49
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Hell or just put a big ole grate across it, hell they could build a entire cage over it like the ones that cover up AC units on the out side of a house.
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Sep 11, 2011 08:00
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Would a grate really stop a torpedo? And didn't the torpedo create a chain reaction that destroyed the space station, nullifying the hypothetical twists and turns?
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Sep 11, 2011 08:14
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They could have put a 90-degree bend right at the top - oh, wait, they did. It's not the designer's fault that torpedoes can apparently turn like loving light cycles.
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Sep 11, 2011 08:22
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So is the last shot of Empire being altered a new change, or was that on the previous versions as well?
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Sep 11, 2011 14:26
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PriorMarcus posted:So is the last shot of Empire being altered a new change, or was that on the previous versions as well? Oh boy, have they done something to that too? It's one of my favorite Star Wars moments. 
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PriorMarcus posted:So is the last shot of Empire being altered a new change, or was that on the previous versions as well? I can't really think what could be changed in that unless they've gone back to fix the rear projection on the model. Eddit : Here's a pictorial on what's been changed, nothing in the final scene of Empire. BogDew fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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Sep 11, 2011 15:40
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from that link:quote:From this still image it might look like the scene has remained unchanged for the Blu-ray release, but this is not the case. Approximately ten frames have been shaved off of the shot immediately before Greedo fires, making it appears as though Han and the bounty hunter shoot at roughly the same time. It’s still not great but it’s the best version since the original.  
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Sep 11, 2011 16:39
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WebDog posted:I recall a friend who saw it on TV for the first time (post SE) thinking the final shot of the camera tracking from the window as the frigate panned off was a CGI shot. Well a few places are running this as an official still: 
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PriorMarcus posted:Well a few places are running this as an official still: That's an old-rear end promotional still or something. I swear I've seen that picture long ago. Zat fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Sep 11, 2011 |
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Sep 11, 2011 17:20
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My girlfriend just showed me that she's had the Star Wars Blu Ray boxset hidden in her cupboard for the last 2 days. I can't open it until my birthday on the 24th. This will be the longest 13 days of my life.
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Sep 11, 2011 17:55
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Another official still from the Star Wars blu-rays:
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dogflaps posted:My girlfriend just showed me that she's had the Star Wars Blu Ray boxset hidden in her cupboard for the last 2 days. I can't open it until my birthday on the 24th. Gonna spoil it for ya. Darth Vader is Luke's father. Sorry.
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Sep 11, 2011 19:48
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dogflaps posted:My girlfriend just showed me that she's had the Star Wars Blu Ray boxset hidden in her cupboard for the last 2 days. I can't open it until my birthday on the 24th. I think your GF hates you.
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Sep 11, 2011 20:01
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arioch posted:Another official still from the Star Wars blu-rays: He was supposed to say "Yes", Lucas! 
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Sep 11, 2011 20:18
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ImpAtom posted:Gonna spoil it for ya. Darth Vader is Luke's father. Sorry. Wow. Mods?
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Sep 11, 2011 20:33
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/bcbb7bb253/george-lucas-adds-more-darth-vader-dialogue I think it adds a much needed explanation for Vader's motivation
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Sep 11, 2011 20:47
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angrylinuxgeek posted:from that link: The gap shortens with each new release. Give it 2-3 more revisions and we'll come full circle. Course Jar Jar will be added to the Cantina "alien montage" but least we'll get what we bitched for.
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RagnarokAngel posted:The gap shortens with each new release. Give it 2-3 more revisions and we'll come full circle. Eventually Greedo will be shooting at Han when hes talking to Luke and Obi-Wan.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Course Jar Jar will be added to the Cantina "alien montage" but least we'll get what we bitched for. Sebulba is in the Jabba's palace scene now, isn't he?
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Someone once told me that you can actually see Mara Jade in Jabba's palace. Is it true?
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VaultAggie posted:Someone once told me that you can actually see Mara Jade in Jabba's palace. Is it true? In a manner of speaking. There's a blink-and-you-miss-it background dancer who was retconned to be Mara Jade.
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Out of everything, what I find most surreal about the EU is that every single thing that ever had screen time is a hero whose existence was pivotal for the events shown in the movies. Nothing is mediocre. Nothing. Even the Yeti that catches Luke in ESB is the leader of his group or something. In a Galaxy with hundreds of trillions of people, we just had the luck to catch all the non-average joes on screen. It's really creepy when you think about it, because it's like everything around Luke turns into a huge conspiracy 
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NGL posted:In a manner of speaking. There's a blink-and-you-miss-it background dancer who was retconned to be Mara Jade. This actually isn't true. You're probably thinking of the white-haired dancer which is very briefly visible, but isn't supposed to be Mara. There were rumors before the special editions first came out that Mara/Arica would be added in, but never was. She is in the NPR audio adaption, though. Threepio chats her up.
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Elentor posted:Out of everything, what I find most surreal about the EU is that every single thing that ever had screen time is a hero whose existence was pivotal for the events shown in the movies. Nothing is mediocre. That's why it makes more sense to me that the OT, in-universe, is a re-telling of a re-telling of re-telling of an epic hero legend. Everyone in the saga is important because countless of story-tellers have added to the original story. In "reality", Luke was probably some two-bit soldier who tripped ans´d fell on his blaster, accidentally killing Darth Vader.
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Pesky Splinter posted:
I would be fine with the ROTS make-up if he actually had a neck and didn't look like he suddenly gained 200 lbs. The guy looks huge in some shots. 
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