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I have just finished reading the book. I have been reading this series non stop for 4 months now ever since I saw the first 3 episodes of the TV show and went and bought all the books. There is no loving way Jon is dead. If he is that will be one lovely way to kill him. He can go kill anyone he likes but you do not gently caress with Jon and Arya  My money is on Melisandre saving Jon's life. Can someone tell me who the Khal that comes across Deanerys is at the end of the book? I can't remember hearing about him before. And got confused for a second because his name was really similar to her bloodrider. Also any estimate on the next book? If it is another 5 years I will kill myself.  This is one of these series I wish I have not discovered till all the books are out. keyframe fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Sep 13, 2011 |
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people posted:Maesters be Illuminating and poo poo It seems that the Maesters didn't limit their scheming to controlling magic. Remember Lady Dustin's rant about how that Maester of Rickard Stark was working out the marriages to the Tullys and Baratheons? I wonder how much of that was a rogue maester's handiwork and how much influence Oldtown was exerting. whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 13, 2011 |
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Sep 13, 2011 02:11
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keyframe posted:Can someone tell me who the Khal that comes across Deanerys is at the end of the book? I can't remember hearing about him before. And got confused for a second because his name was really similar to her bloodrider. He's the guy who runs off with the vast majority of Drogo's khal after he dies.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:27
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keyframe posted:
A Game of Thrones - 1996 A Clash of Kings - 1998 A Storm of Swords - 2000 A Feast for Crows - 2005 A Dance with Dragons - 2011 GRRM has said he's written ~100 pages of the next one (The Winds of Winter at the moment) from stuff that was cut out of book 5, and won't even start writing the rest of book 6 until next year. The shortest time between book publications so far has been two years and that was when he was basically writing straight through with no breaks, so I don't think there's any way you're seeing book 6 until at least early 2014  . I would say 2015-ish with the pace / motivation he's shown lately. This is assuming there's not another six-year gap while they decide how to wring four more best-sellers out of this series instead of two.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:34
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Ecco the Dolphin posted:He's the guy who runs off with the vast majority of Drogo's khal after he dies. And the khalasar goes along with it because they follow the baddest dude around.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:41
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I'm hoping that she still can't control Drogon and he ends up murdering the gently caress out of them. Then eats her. Martin really hosed up the pacing here. Since there's no gap now, the dragons probably aren't going to reach their full awesome size by the end of the books. I was promised gargantuan monsters that blot out the sun, drat it.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:46
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Ambiguatron posted:I'm hoping that she still can't control Drogon and he ends up murdering the gently caress out of them. Then eats her.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:50
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Ross posted:Despite how well liked he is around here, I suspect any theory with Delorous Edd playing a central role is unlikely to come about. Look at this guy, everybody.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:51
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keyframe posted:
So, I did the math based on the release days, and fit a polynomial curve to the data. This best fit polynomial was found to be Date = 261.3*book^2 - 218.86*book Extrapolating from that, I have scientifically determined that The Winds of Winter will be released on October 4, 2018, and A Dream of Spring on June 17, 2027. The full data set can be seen here.
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Sep 13, 2011 04:01
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Right, close the thread, we've generated the equation of the meaning of life. Date = 261.3*book^2 - 218.86*book isn't quite as elegant as 6*7=42, though.
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Sep 13, 2011 04:27
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Joke's on you, it's actually supposed to be an exponential curve.
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Sep 13, 2011 04:29
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Might be a better fit to (book-1).
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Sep 13, 2011 05:01
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Dead Man Posting posted:http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/ I'm just going to say that soundtrack is a mess.
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Sep 13, 2011 05:10
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I just wanna say before the talk about the maesters takes on much more of a  tone that it seems to me that GRRM sort of took the religious order in medieval Europe and kind of sliced off the monastic portion from the churches that were more involved in every day life.Maesters works as scribes, healers, and and do generally sciency stuff as well as tutor noble children and what have you. Oldtown has sort of a Vatican City feel to it if you ask me. Now if that means they have no agenda isn't clear. Unlikely, in any case, but I think it's a bit too simplistic to say "they must be against magic/dragons!" simply because more readers are all "ra ra magic/dragons" is a bit premature. Maybe they're just secular humanists and find all this gods business tiresome. BTW why does Old Gods stuff resonate so much more than the other religions? I mean apart from being the religion of Our Brave Heroes it seems to be described more sympathetically than other religions. It doesn't burn anyone or have a wing of faceless assassins or an allusion to religious inquisition, it's just dudes sittin in the wood
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Sep 13, 2011 05:33
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I think they resonate more because they never seem to do a single goddamn thing for anyone who worships them.
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Sep 13, 2011 05:43
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Azure_Horizon posted:I think they resonate more because they never seem to do a single goddamn thing for anyone who worships them. The 7 are the ones who never do a goddamn thing. The old gods (probably) do the Warging business. The Old Gods are a very.. personal.. dialog-based religion, versus the religion of the 7 which is all about institutional faith.
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Sep 13, 2011 05:47
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Johnny Nomad posted:So, I did the math based on the release days, and fit a polynomial curve to the data. This best fit polynomial was found to be Date = 261.3*book^2 - 218.86*book Extrapolating from that, I have scientifically determined that The Winds of Winter will be released on October 4, 2018, and A Dream of Spring on June 17, 2027. The full data set can be seen here. What about book 8?
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Sep 13, 2011 06:15
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Just finished the book. If Jon is actually dead, I'm going to be very disappointed. Not because I care about him that much but because I care about Arya and she loves him and I was really hoping they'd be reunited at some point.  Speaking of Arya, her chapters were really awesome.
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Sep 13, 2011 06:16
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:BTW why does Old Gods stuff resonate so much more than the other religions? quote:It is called Maavalla Koda and has some three or four hundred members. Among them are Andres Heinapuu and his son Ott.
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Sep 13, 2011 06:30
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Re prophecies: that one that Cersei had when she was a kid has been amazingly accurate so far, what with numbers of children and such. This does imply that Tommen's going to be dead quite soon.
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Sep 13, 2011 08:20
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Unkempt posted:Re prophecies: that one that Cersei had when she was a kid has been amazingly accurate so far, what with numbers of children and such. This does imply that Tommen's going to be dead quite soon. Nooo what will Ser Pounce do with his father figure dead? Finally begin his Hero's Journey with instruction from the black tomcat? Has this whole series been setup for Ser Pounce's voyages?
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Sep 13, 2011 09:15
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Dead Man Posting posted:http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/ I really, really wouldn't hold out much hope. The only Cyanide Studios game I've played before was Pro Rugby Manager 2 and it was horrendous. How the hell they got this contract off the back of that and other thrilling titles such as Cycling Manager, Horse Racing Manager and Runaway! The Dream of the Turtle, i'll never know.
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Sep 13, 2011 09:44
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Unkempt posted:Re prophecies: that one that Cersei had when she was a kid has been amazingly accurate so far, what with numbers of children and such. This does imply that Tommen's going to be dead quite soon. Yes, the only real question is who will choke the life out of her? Jaime or Tyrion?
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Sep 13, 2011 09:57
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OperaMouse posted:Yes, the only real question is who will choke the life out of her? Jaime or Tyrion?
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Sep 13, 2011 10:36
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bigmcgaffney posted:Nooo what will Ser Pounce do with his father figure dead? Finally begin his Hero's Journey with instruction from the black tomcat? Has this whole series been setup for Ser Pounce's voyages? Now I know what the point of the prologue was. Brandon Stark obviously warged into the black cat when he died.
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:Now if that means they have no agenda isn't clear. Unlikely, in any case, but I think it's a bit too simplistic to say "they must be against magic/dragons!" simply because more readers are all "ra ra magic/dragons" is a bit premature. It's been a while since I read Feast, but doesn't Marwyn pretty much say this outright?
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Sep 13, 2011 13:36
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Ecco the Dolphin posted:It's been a while since I read Feast, but doesn't Marwyn pretty much say this outright? If Glenn Beck told you to buy gold would you believe him without question?
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Sep 13, 2011 14:58
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Quantify! posted:That was a pretty cool moment. Dany basically gets control of a huge army that can defeat all those assholes in Meereen simply by landing on a dragon and saying "Hey, what's up? Remember me? Yeah now I have dragons, serve me because otherwise I will projectile poo at you." I'd get a kick out a scene in the next book where Dany is riding Drogon into battle, and he's breathing fire while she's dropping poop onto unsuspecting soldiers.
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:BTW why does Old Gods stuff resonate so much more than the other religions? I mean apart from being the religion of Our Brave Heroes it seems to be described more sympathetically than other religions. It doesn't burn anyone or have a wing of faceless assassins or an allusion to religious inquisition, it's just dudes sittin in the wood
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That seemed to die in directly to Bloodraven become a tree and Bran kind of doing the same. That is to say, there's some kind of metamorphosis from human to tree-person going on. Who knows how those weirwood trees came to be, but maybe they were all greenseers who got treeified. That's not exactly bloody but there could well be a component of blood sacrifice we don't witness.
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Sticky Profits posted:I really, really wouldn't hold out much hope. The only Cyanide Studios game I've played before was Pro Rugby Manager 2 and it was horrendous. How the hell they got this contract off the back of that and other thrilling titles such as Cycling Manager, Horse Racing Manager and Runaway! The Dream of the Turtle, i'll never know. What's worse is that Cyanide is making not one, but two ASoIaF games  . One is the Genesis RTS, and another is an Oblivion-esque RPG where you play as a black brother; preview here (in French).
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Sep 13, 2011 21:15
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They did a pretty good job with the Blood Bowl game, but that was mostly just implementing a given ruleset to begin with. I remain cautiously optimistic.
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Sep 13, 2011 21:56
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Quantify! posted:It's obviously going to be Jaime, as he's reclaiming his honor and Cersei thinks it will be Tyrion and she's wrong about everything. She will just assume Tyrion warged into Jaime.
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Sep 13, 2011 21:58
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OperaMouse posted:Yes, the only real question is who will choke the life out of her? Jaime or Tyrion? It's pretty obvious that Rickon's gonna do it. with Shaggydog's teeth.
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Sep 13, 2011 23:46
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Habibi posted:I'd get a kick out a scene in the next book where Dany is riding Drogon into battle, and he's breathing fire while she's dropping poop onto unsuspecting soldiers. Strong Belwas did it first
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OperaMouse posted:Yes, the only real question is who will choke the life out of her? Jaime or Tyrion? I think there's a good case to be made for that part of the prophesy not being literal, namely because 1. Tyrion just joined up with a merc group called the Second Sons 2. Cersei believes that someone is going to literally choke her to death; Cersei is always wrong.
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Sep 14, 2011 00:17
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My gut feeling is actually that Cercei will live but end up in some miserable state of affairs.
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Sep 14, 2011 00:54
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Finished this awful piece of poo poo book today after rereading the entire series, most of which I'd totally forgotten about. Things on my mind: Who's gonna ride them dragons, assuming they don't randomly get killed and their idiotic mother actually brings them to Westeros? If Jon is a Targ and gets his rez, there will be three Targs: Aegon, Jon, and Dany. On the other hand, I was thinking the whole Bran arc was a setup for him to warg it up in an uncontrollable dragon at some point and roast the Others. Edit: Yeah, Aegon, not Aemon. Oops. (Although thinking about Maester Aemon cruising the skies on the back of a dragon is awesome. basx fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 14, 2011 |
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Sep 14, 2011 01:09
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I thought Aemon had died already? Considering I skim through Samwell's chapters, I may be misremembering.
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He means Aegon, the dude that was milling around with Jon Connington pretending to be a mercenary's son (but is really a SECRET TARG).
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