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americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I have completed Bioshock. Overall, it was a pretty interesting game and I'm glad I spent the 15 hours or so plaything through it. The ending was satisfying but short. Still, I really recommend it if someone has it in their backlog and hasn't played it yet.

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jvempire
May 10, 2009
What can be said about Aquaria? It's some type of adventure/exploration game? Also how long is it?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
I can't comment on how long it is as I never actually beat it but if you imagine a cross between Symphony of the Night and Ecco the Dolphin you've got the right idea. It's a really solid 2D action/adventure game.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


jvempire posted:

What can be said about Aquaria? It's some type of adventure/exploration game? Also how long is it?

My Steam lists 26 hours for it, but that's with both endings and all but two of the achievements; if you're less obsessively completionist than me, 15 sounds about right.

Metroid is probably a better comparison than SotN, although it's smaller than either of these - no levels or XP or the like, and very limited equipment. Explore a big interconnected sidescrolling world, kill bosses, collect new powers that give you access to new areas. It's lots of fun, there's a fair amount of optional stuff to collect, nicely varied scenery, and great music.

Best advice I can give you for when you start playing it: the number keys act as shortcuts for the various songs (including the alternate forms) - this is not only faster than singing them with the mouse, it happens instantly. This ability to quickly sing defences and shift forms can be a lifesaver.

jvempire
May 10, 2009
Thanks for the info you two, sounds like I'll actually enjoy the game. Now the only thing left for me to do is to figure out when to play it :v:.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease
Huh, so Myst... I just finished Myst, except for the bonus age that comes with Real Myst, and that ending was... Well, I had to look at a hint guide to see that it *was* the ending. I remember my sister getting to that point years ago but since the game didn't end we both assumed there was something else she was supposed to do, but eventually gave up. But no, that's the end alright. So I'm going to marked it "Beaten"; if/when I do the bonus age, I'll switch it to "Completed". I really enjoyed it, but that ending was very lackluster.

Now that I've finished that, I'm going to split my time between New Vegas, Just Cause 2, and/or Roller Coaster Tycoon.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib
Just finished Mafia II. Pretty disappointing.

Steam tells me it took 13 hours but I didn't really explore the city much as I heard there is nothing to do. Checkpoint saves just piss me off to no end.

It really is a very pretty game and runs very well, also the only crash I had was when I quit after beating it. Also the music was pretty great.

Anyone want to suggest something to me? I feel I should play something that isn't super linear considering the last two games I have played have been this and Metro 2033.

http://www.backloggery.com/redfred

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I've been trying to play Amnesia for the past week, getting further and further along before making GBS threads myself. I checked my playtime today: 3 hours. :ohdear:

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Red_Fred posted:

Anyone want to suggest something to me? I feel I should play something that isn't super linear considering the last two games I have played have been this and Metro 2033.

http://www.backloggery.com/redfred

Just Cause 2 is the obvious answer.

Besides that, you've got a ton of great games waiting (Batman AA, Hitman BM, Deus Ex, Half-Life 2 + episodes, Pirates!, Civ IV etc. etc.)

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Kennel posted:

Just Cause 2 is the obvious answer.

Besides that, you've got a ton of great games waiting (Batman AA, Hitman BM, Deus Ex, Half-Life 2 + episodes, Pirates!, Civ IV etc. etc.)

Does Just Cause 2 really have a story though? Like I'm tempted to null it because the story is terrible.

Pirates! and Civ IV don't really have stories do they? In the sense that you 'beat' them.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3
Yeah, Pirate! and Civ 4 are just awesome games to start up and lose 4 hours of your life. I'd suggest Blood Money, that game is completely awesome.

Ghost Head
Sep 16, 2008
I don't have quite as impressive a backlog as some of you, but this thread encouraged me to starting playing Shining Force 2 a while back and I just finished it. The battles were very strategic for a JRPG. In that sense, I rate it above Final Fantasy Tactics. Everything else was kind of awful though. The only other thing I liked was how the player was woven into the story. Most games of this nature don't really give a poo poo about that and constantly give the hazy impression that you're the main character but not really. The ending, main menu and quit screen of SF2 suggest where you're situated in relation to the game world and the other characters.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Eh! Frank posted:

Huh, so Myst...
It's been years since I played Myst but I remember there being multiple endings based on what you do at the end. But yeah, the game's story was pretty involved, there was a lot of back history to all the different worlds and such. There were actually two or three novels about the Myst universe written by the creators, I think I read one or two of them.

Looking back on Myst, it's not the kind of game I'd want to play again, but I have to respect what it helped do for PC gaming by bringing it into the public eye a little more. It's just such a static world that ultimately wasn't that much fun. Granted I haven't tried any of the remakes like RealMyst though. And don't get me started on Riven, holy poo poo those puzzles were insane. I remember me and my Dad playing through it way back before widespread internet access and GameFAQs, and we actually ended up going to the store and buying one of those big strategy guides for it.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Red_Fred posted:

Does Just Cause 2 really have a story though? Like I'm tempted to null it because the story is terrible.
Much like porn, the story in Just Cause 2 is really only there to set up each scene of someone getting their poo poo wrecked.

SmokinDan
Oct 24, 2010

Red_Fred posted:

Does Just Cause 2 really have a story though? Like I'm tempted to null it because the story is terrible.

Pirates! and Civ IV don't really have stories do they? In the sense that you 'beat' them.

As Tetsuo said, do not worry about story at all in Just Cause 2. Just play it to have fun and destroy poo poo.

Make sure to go to justcause2mods.com or, if you don't want to trawl around on there, just get this Black Market mod which makes everything available on the black market, gets rid of the black market cutscene and makes everything upgradable. Also, if you have the para-thruster DLC (which you should - it's the only thing that got me to 75% completion) then get this mod which gives you unlimited thrusters.

If you get frustrated there are also plenty of unlimited ammo/ reduction of threat levels mods. Probably best to play on Normal your first playthrough, as well.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



JC's Story is forgettable; but the setpieces involved in it own.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Eh! Frank posted:

Huh, so Myst... I just finished Myst, except for the bonus age that comes with Real Myst, and that ending was... Well, I had to look at a hint guide to see that it *was* the ending. I remember my sister getting to that point years ago but since the game didn't end we both assumed there was something else she was supposed to do, but eventually gave up. But no, that's the end alright. So I'm going to marked it "Beaten"; if/when I do the bonus age, I'll switch it to "Completed". I really enjoyed it, but that ending was very lackluster.

The ending is kind of underwhelming; Atrus basically says "hey, thanks for saving me. Stick around - I might need your help again." And that's the end.

It works a lot better if you treat Myst as the prologue for Riven, which basically picks up right where Myst ends and provides much more closure.

RightClickSaveAs posted:

It's been years since I played Myst but I remember there being multiple endings based on what you do at the end. But yeah, the game's story was pretty involved, there was a lot of back history to all the different worlds and such. There were actually two or three novels about the Myst universe written by the creators, I think I read one or two of them.

It's not really multiple endings; there's one "true" ending and two non-standard game overs.

quote:

Looking back on Myst, it's not the kind of game I'd want to play again, but I have to respect what it helped do for PC gaming by bringing it into the public eye a little more. It's just such a static world that ultimately wasn't that much fun. Granted I haven't tried any of the remakes like RealMyst though. And don't get me started on Riven, holy poo poo those puzzles were insane. I remember me and my Dad playing through it way back before widespread internet access and GameFAQs, and we actually ended up going to the store and buying one of those big strategy guides for it.

I love Riven, but goddamn if it's not the most difficult Myst game. A lot of people seem to have trouble with the fire marbles puzzle, but for me, the puzzle that drove me to look it up in a guide was the animal noises puzzle. I did everything else in Riven cold, but gently caress that puzzle in the eye.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Finished up Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 finally. It was fun except the ending fight a big helicopter scene was kinda silly and was way different than the old Rainbow Six I remember. Still enjoyable. Old World Blues will probably be next.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease
So, is New Vegas *supposed* to be more difficult than Fallout 3? I was having troubles, so I changed the difficulty to easiest (yeah, I know, I suck). Then I got ambushed by four or five of the dudes in Roman uniforms and they *still* kicked my rear end. Maybe I'm just remembering the early parts of 3 wrong and that I had the same amount of problems, but this is annoying. Difficulty aside, I still think I like Fallout 3 better. The setting and the story were both more interesting to me.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Eh! Frank posted:

So, is New Vegas *supposed* to be more difficult than Fallout 3? I was having troubles, so I changed the difficulty to easiest (yeah, I know, I suck). Then I got ambushed by four or five of the dudes in Roman uniforms and they *still* kicked my rear end. Maybe I'm just remembering the early parts of 3 wrong and that I had the same amount of problems, but this is annoying. Difficulty aside, I still think I like Fallout 3 better. The setting and the story were both more interesting to me.

Make sure you're using the appropriate weapon for each battle. The Roman guys are well-armored so if you are using a gun that isn't very good against armor, they will ruin your day. I had troubles trying to use a little pea shooter and couldn't penetrate the Legionary armor worth a poo poo until I stumbled on a Hunting Rifle. Once you get the hang of using the right weapon for the right job, the difficulty curve becomes a whole lot like FO3 where you struggle in the beginning then by the time you are level ~16, you are an unstoppable force. Don't quote me on this as I'm not entirely sure but I think critical hits ignore armor so getting a sneak critical can really help in a tough fight.

jvempire
May 10, 2009

Eh! Frank posted:

So, is New Vegas *supposed* to be more difficult than Fallout 3? I was having troubles, so I changed the difficulty to easiest (yeah, I know, I suck). Then I got ambushed by four or five of the dudes in Roman uniforms and they *still* kicked my rear end. Maybe I'm just remembering the early parts of 3 wrong and that I had the same amount of problems, but this is annoying. Difficulty aside, I still think I like Fallout 3 better. The setting and the story were both more interesting to me.
Get Boone. He will take care of those Legion guys for you (and everything else in his path :ssh:).

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

Chief Savage Man posted:

Make sure you're using the appropriate weapon for each battle. The Roman guys are well-armored so if you are using a gun that isn't very good against armor, they will ruin your day. I had troubles trying to use a little pea shooter and couldn't penetrate the Legionary armor worth a poo poo until I stumbled on a Hunting Rifle. Once you get the hang of using the right weapon for the right job, the difficulty curve becomes a whole lot like FO3 where you struggle in the beginning then by the time you are level ~16, you are an unstoppable force. Don't quote me on this as I'm not entirely sure but I think critical hits ignore armor so getting a sneak critical can really help in a tough fight.

Yeah, after I made that post, I went back and hit 3 or 4 different ammo merchants. Found a grand total of fourteen armor-piercing bullets for sale. Fourteen! Luckily it was all the same type, but it just felt like the game was mocking me. I managed to kill one guy without much trouble (other than one of my shots missing in VATS, leaving him with one or two HP and me with no AP), but wasted the rest of the armor-piercing trying to get a good shot at the others. But I lucked out and managed to take out the others (I think a molerat distracted one of them at one point). Used up most of what little stimppacks I had though. I really should not be having this much trouble on "Very Easy". And it's not like I could just skip them or go around, they were right in the path of where I needed to go for the main quest.

As for Boone, he wants me to find his wife's kidnapper/murderer or whatever, and I'm assuming I have to do that before he'll tag along. I've asked around, but can't find anybody who knows anything. Conversation is probably one of my least favorite parts of the game, so going around and talking to every single person I can find in the town doesn't sound too appealing, and I don't want to look up hints online. So Boone's a no-go, until I stumble upon the person I need.

My mentality right now is just to speed through the main quest as fast as possible, and considering I did my best to find and complete every side quest in 3 that I could, that's not good. I'm probably just going to put it on the back-burner for a while. I don't know, I'm just not enjoying it nearly as much as 3, which is a shame, since Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games.

Edit: So this post isn't all negative, I'm loving Just Cause 2. So much fun just to run around and cause death and explosions.

VVVVV Are energy weapons good against armored enemies? If so, I may just start over and concentrate on energy weapons instead of regular guns.

Eh! Frank fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Sep 13, 2011

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

I figured I'd try a "peaceful" run of F:NV so I maxed out intelligence, charisma, etc and skills like lockpick, science and some energy weapons just to handle any fights I get into. Unfortunately (or fortunately) this build is still highly combat capable so I just sort of switched into murder mode. Usually you can find a poor condition energy weapon early on such as an incinerator or laser pistol and repair it to good as new using repair kits. And then you get the Laser RCW...

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Eh! Frank posted:

:words:
:shobon: This is adorable. Really.

If you're having that much trouble, at level 8 with 45 guns, you can get the Shotgun Surgeon perk. Works wonders for Guns characters. As for Boone, check the safe inside of the Dino Dee-Lite motel's lobby. And go back to Primm and fix up the robot. His name is ED-E and he is fantastic.

OlMaster
May 12, 2008

Eh! Frank posted:

Conversation is probably one of my least favorite parts of the game, so going around and talking to every single person I can find in the town doesn't sound too appealing

This is probably not the game for you.

In fairness, the Legion assassins will waste you at lower levels (although I wouldn't have thought it would cause you that much difficulty on easy). Fallout 3 tends to scale with your level far more than NV, so you will get hurt if you take on enemies that are higher level than you. Running away is often the best tactic.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Abloohohohooo, Amnesia is beaten at 8 hours, but I still feel like making GBS threads myself.

Next up, either start Divinity II or play through Witcher and get into Witcher 2.

Contingency Plan
Nov 23, 2007

43 hours and two playthroughs later, I'm ready to put a bow on Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. I didn't care at all for the last third of the game. It's heavy on combat, which is probably one of the worst aspects of the game. Everyone bitches about the sewer level - which was awful - but I hated getting the sarcophagus key in Chinatown more. It was buggy despite applying the fan patch, which makes me wonder so many rpg-shooter hybrids are cursed to suffer troubled developments which require the fans to iron out the bugs. Still, it's a fun game and I can see why it gets so much goon love.

Next is either Recettear or Just Cause 2. I haven't touched either game in months.

Contingency Plan fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 13, 2011

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Contingency Plan posted:

43 hours and two playthroughs later, I'm ready to put a bow on Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. I didn't care at all for the last third of the game. It's heavy on combat, which is probably one of the worst aspects of the game. Everyone bitches about the sewer level - which was awful - but I hated getting the sarcophagus key in Chinatown more. It was buggy despite applying the fan patch, which makes me wonder so many rpg-shooter hybrids are cursed to suffer troubled developments which require the fans to iron out the bugs. Still, it's a fun game and I can see why it gets so much goon love.
I noclipped through the sewer level and most of that last level, the huge maze-like temple place. It's such a shame, you can tell how obviously rushed those later levels were compared to the early ones, especially compared to the haunted house and the two big starter city areas.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Kind of eerie how well that parallels the new Deus Ex game. :tinfoil:

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I'm playing Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 (yes, the old first one) and it's actually pretty fun. I hadn't played any of these games before and I'm enjoying it; well worth the purchase two years ago. It reminds me a lot of Rainbow Six lite. My only complaint is my weapons feel weak when I am shooting other people, but it's not as much a FPS as it is a squad based shooter, so that prevents people from Ramboing the whole game like newer games.

After 2 hours, I'm 1/3rd of the way through the game, but I have a feeling that the later missions will ramp up in difficulty and the speed I'm progressing through this game will slow way down.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease
Ok, I started over on New Vegas, concentrating on energy weapons instead of regular guns, and going with speech as well. Also made my character a woman, just for something different (my other character was a man). So far I seem to be enjoying it more, I guess because my previous character was pretty much the same thing I played in Fallout 3. I'm going to do the main quest at a leisurely pace, though, doing plenty of exploring and side-quests. I probably won't play any other games at this time, though, so that I can spend more time on getting through this.

The energy weapons are fun, and there's plenty of ammo to be found. And if I get overwhelmed, I break out the flame-thrower. Haven't run into any of the armored guys yet, but hopefully they won't be as much of a problem any more.

I also think it's odd how killing a Powder Gang member gives you good karma, but "stealing" from their camp/base gives you bad karma.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Tip for energy weapons, increasing your science skill lets you create more powerful ammunition for them, which helps you later in the game. Or if you like vapourizing powder gangers in one shot.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

americanzero4128 posted:

I'm playing Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 (yes, the old first one) and it's actually pretty fun. I hadn't played any of these games before and I'm enjoying it; well worth the purchase two years ago. It reminds me a lot of Rainbow Six lite. My only complaint is my weapons feel weak when I am shooting other people, but it's not as much a FPS as it is a squad based shooter, so that prevents people from Ramboing the whole game like newer games.

After 2 hours, I'm 1/3rd of the way through the game, but I have a feeling that the later missions will ramp up in difficulty and the speed I'm progressing through this game will slow way down.

I had put this game as my number one game to try and play through a while ago and I really did enjoy it especially that you couldn't just poo poo on all the Nazis with your super accurate Garand and actually had to be smart about your attack. Unfortunately, I reached a level where I had a bug that would only pop up after using Situational Awareness where the whole game would literally rotate 90 degrees. I tried looking at the screen sideways to no avail and then tried to play without Situational Awareness but couldn't do it. Oh well, maybe I'll just put it as Beaten if I can't figure out what the deal is and skip to the next one.


Eh! Frank posted:

Ok, I started over on New Vegas, concentrating on energy weapons instead of regular guns, and going with speech as well. Also made my character a woman, just for something different (my other character was a man). So far I seem to be enjoying it more, I guess because my previous character was pretty much the same thing I played in Fallout 3. I'm going to do the main quest at a leisurely pace, though, doing plenty of exploring and side-quests. I probably won't play any other games at this time, though, so that I can spend more time on getting through this.

The energy weapons are fun, and there's plenty of ammo to be found. And if I get overwhelmed, I break out the flame-thrower. Haven't run into any of the armored guys yet, but hopefully they won't be as much of a problem any more.

I also think it's odd how killing a Powder Gang member gives you good karma, but "stealing" from their camp/base gives you bad karma.

There's a lot of funky stuff regarding Karma in New Vegas and I find that my Karma almost always defaults to Good because shooting Fiends and Powder Gangers gives you a lot of good Karma. There are some minimods out there that make Karma make more sense but as far as I can tell, Karma isn't all that important in FO:NV (nowhere near as important as it was in FO3) and the really important thing is faction relations.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Eh! Frank posted:

Ok, I started over on New Vegas

Just a tip - your initial idea to first power through the main quest on the first playthrough of New Vegas was really bad as you'll HAVE TO choose a faction and antagonise the other one. You'll be meeting NMC in every town and the Legion everywhere outside the towns - it's constant fighting either way - why make your life harder? Even the quest paths that let you avoid fighting will require higher skills which you don't have at the beginning.

So when either side asks you to directly attack their enemies just stop with the main quest right there and go for some side questing - level up, find better weapons and only when you're pretty buffed go on with the main quest. You'd be setting yourself for a really hard time otherwise. Also this game has A LOT of talking because actually choosing the right answers can give you different quest results - so if you just skip through dialogue and press whatever - you're going to get into even more hard fights.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
Yeah my first time through Vegas I managed to avoid pissing off either side which makes things a hell of a lot easier in the long run. Eventually if you choose one side over another the other side will send out a teleporting band of mercenaries that follows you all over the map making your life a living hell. It's really glitchy and terrible and I wish they didn't put that in the game.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer
Completed Serious Sam: The First Encounter HD. I kinda miss the crazy gravity levels, but still pretty satisfying. I may downgrade one difficulty from Hard when I load up Second Encounter HD (or, rather, play the other campaigns instead of the imported Egypt one), though, since a lot of the later levels became repeated quick-load grinds whenever they tossed another three dozen Kleer skeletons at me when low on minigun ammo.

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I beat Puzzle Quest tonight and I am 80% of the way through Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 (16/20 missions). Really enjoying this game and I'm glad I decided to play it. I hope by tomorrow night I will have completed BiA and will most likely continue my play through of GTA: Vice City. If I don't go with that, I'll give the fortune cookie a whirl on Backloggery and see what I get.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Hello Steam Anonymous, my name is Synthorange and I think I hosed up again. I bought yesterday's daily deal, more Fallout DLC is coming in a week and my backlog is bigger than ever. :smith:

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


americanzero4128 posted:

I beat Puzzle Quest tonight and I am 80% of the way through Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 (16/20 missions). Really enjoying this game and I'm glad I decided to play it. I hope by tomorrow night I will have completed BiA and will most likely continue my play through of GTA: Vice City. If I don't go with that, I'll give the fortune cookie a whirl on Backloggery and see what I get.

I'm playing Puzzle Quest on an iPad right now - it's seriously the best way I've ever played this game. I got pretty burned out on it on the PC but somehow playing it on a handheld device makes it much easier to put down and then go back to.

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Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib
Well I just finished Just Cause 2 story missions. I will leave in my sandbox category as it is fun to play every now and then but I don't see my getting 100%.

Overall the missions were pretty fun even though I imagine it would be a chore getting enough chaos without my super speed rocket boosters. :v:

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