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Negative levels were poo poo nasty, you lose 5 hp per -1 skill penalty per -1 penalty to attacks per Prepared spells of the highest level if you lose the level needed to cast them. Your caster level also takes a hit, so the duration of your spells goes down I forget if it affected saving throws or not. Also if you gain negative levels equal to your current level, you die- no save.
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And turn into a wight. Don't forget that. This makes handing good-aligned commoners an unholy arrow* a viable and convenient method of making an undead horde. And you can re-use the arrow. *Creatures holding a weapon of an opposed alignment have a temporary negative level while they hold it. It normally goes away once you drop it, but if a 1 HD commoner loses his only level, instant wight.
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Sep 17, 2011 05:58
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I'm disappointed that Celestial Tree Sloth Attacks aren't a real thing.
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Sep 17, 2011 06:19
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They are, it just doesn't seem like a wise option in the middle of battle
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Sep 17, 2011 13:13
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Vicissitude posted:And turn into a wight. Don't forget that. This makes handing good-aligned commoners an unholy arrow* a viable and convenient method of making an undead horde. And you can re-use the arrow. The trick there seems to be finding good-aligned commoners, because I imagine the majority of them would be neutral or lawful neutral. Had they any grand moral imperative, I imagine they probably would have struck off to try and help people or change the world already.
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Put them all in a line and you can even launch the arrow.
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Cabbit posted:The trick there seems to be finding good-aligned commoners, because I imagine the majority of them would be neutral or lawful neutral. Had they any grand moral imperative, I imagine they probably would have struck off to try and help people or change the world already. You just have to poop all over my fun, don't you, Cabbit? My Lovely Horse posted:Put them all in a line and you can even launch the arrow. That would kill them with damage, not a negative level. No free undead minions. 
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Sep 19, 2011 16:44
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Not like that. Unholy arrow railgun that creates wights even as it fires!
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Sep 19, 2011 18:14
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Vicissitude posted:That would kill them with damage, not a negative level. No free undead minions. Handing something to someone is a free action, so you can have commoners pass the arrow to each other down a line. Since you can have an essentially limitless amount of free actions in a round, the arrow can cover the distance of like 20,000 commoners in under 6 seconds.
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Cabbit posted:The trick there seems to be finding good-aligned commoners, because I imagine the majority of them would be neutral or lawful neutral. Had they any grand moral imperative, I imagine they probably would have struck off to try and help people or change the world already. The 3.5 PHB does say that humans "Trend towards no alignment, not even neutral." So about 33% are good. D&D measures intentions as well as actions for the purposes of alignment (sometimes). So the Wight-making should be pretty simple, find literally any village and you have a few dozen wights easily.
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 Geez guys, do we have to get into the intent of the rule? Handing them an arrow makes a wight? I would laugh at someone who hands me that much cheese, and make them roll inititive for a full on redneck treant anal attack. Look what you made me do. I had to comment on the derail. gently caress.
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Sep 19, 2011 20:53
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TampaTango posted:
You didn't have to. We were having fun discussing rules esoterica, and you decided to go crusader.
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Sep 19, 2011 21:55
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Well, really, celestial tree sloth attack is a great idea for hitting Sabine with; she's a fiend, after all, she's probably terrified of something completely passive from heaven.
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Sep 19, 2011 23:24
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Come on, when I see 7 new posts I expect one of you to have gotten on this already. I mean, standards, people. Sheesh.
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Sep 19, 2011 23:46
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Let's just get this fight over with, please?
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Sep 19, 2011 23:54
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"Cleric's Feather Fall" got a good laugh out of me, I admit.
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Elan's summary of the situation was admirably clear and succinct and accurate. He's slowly getting the hang of this "adventuring" thing.
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TampaTango posted:
This comic had a lich put a Symbol of Insanity on a bouncy ball. I honestly wouldn't even bat an eye if he used the unholy arrow trick. If you don't like creative and hilarious abuse of the 3.5 rules, you might not be reading the right comic.
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Sep 20, 2011 00:21
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TampaTango posted:
You're a bad DM.
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Sep 20, 2011 02:02
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Wow, I guess Thor really -does- have aching bunions! 
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Toussaint Louverture posted:Let's just get this fight over with, please? Why? It's good. Don't be a baby.
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Sep 20, 2011 17:49
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TampaTango posted:and make them roll inititive for a full on redneck treant anal attack. Funny you mention that. My avatar/text refers to a game I GM'd, where a player was playing an ent-wife, and went on this ridiculous derail about getting pollinated. Several sessions later, I'd had enough and killed the player with a swarm of huge bees.
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That has to rank in the top ten of creepy poo poo I've heard of happening in a session. What is it about D&D that brings out all the crazy fetishists.
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Toussaint Louverture posted:That has to rank in the top ten of creepy poo poo I've heard of happening in a session. What is it about D&D that brings out all the crazy fetishists. It's a game that encourages you to use your imagination to think of fantastic things. Some of those things will frighten people. 
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ConfusedUs posted:Several sessions later, I'd had enough and killed the player with a swarm of huge bees. You mean "character" here, right? 
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Nipponophile posted:You mean "character" here, right? ConfusedUs plays D&D for keeps.
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Nipponophile posted:You mean "character" here, right? You kids and your pansy limp-dick D&D. Back in my day when a thief failed to find a poison trap they found the player's corpse hanging from the rafters the next day. If you can't take the damage, don't roll the dice, son 
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NO, NOT BLACK LEAF!!!
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Sep 21, 2011 21:44
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Just watch yourself. I'm a wanted man. I have the death sentence on twelve systems. D&D (2nd, 3rd, 3.5, and 4th editions), PDQ (and three variants), M&M 2e and 3e, the Dresden Files RPG, and FATAL
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 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0807.html Wuh-oh, looks like somebody's starting to feel empathy... I'm kind of antsy about Belkar getting character development, but on the other hand it's been a glacially slow process over the process of hundreds of comics and it's part of an overarching story that will come to an end some day. Soooo, from that perspective, I guess it's good that something's going to come of Belkar rather than just being the stab-happy CE Ranger from start to finish.
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Some day? Try in this arc. He's reaching his prophesy'd death limit. Halfling gonna croak it. And develop empathy right before he dies, but the rest refuse to raise him because they only knew him as a psychopathic murderer, not a psychopathic murderer with emotions and feelings 
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I'm confused by the second last panel. What does it mean?
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crime fighting hog posted:I'm confused by the second last panel. What does it mean? He was amused when the idiot half-dragon and his lizardman friend had to fight each other, and now he recognizes what it would be like to have to harm his own pet.
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Sefer posted:He was amused when the idiot half-dragon and his lizardman friend had to fight each other, and now he recognizes what it would be like to have to harm his own pet. Oh, right. I understand now.
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Sefer posted:He was amused when the idiot half-dragon and his lizardman friend had to fight each other, and now he recognizes what it would be like to have to harm his own pet. Actually, he was never amused. This is a proper flashback showing why he broke up the fight and saved them by having Ian free the dinosaur.
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D'aaaawwwwww.
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I've got a half-hearted request for this thread. I know we've rehosted the comic for years back when giantitp.com had downtime issues every time there was a new comic, I've even done it myself before. However, I haven't noticed any downtime with the site lately. I've heard Rich dislikes his comics being rehosted, so does anyone else think we might want to stop rehosting them in favor of linking to the comic when a new one comes up? I remember other comic authors in our shop talk thread holding similar issues with comic rehosting, although mostly with those awful conglomerate sites that take comics from all over with a ton of advertising. Or we could just hold on to our habit too, whichever.
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Manyorcas posted:I've got a half-hearted request for this thread. I know we've rehosted the comic for years back when giantitp.com had downtime issues every time there was a new comic, I've even done it myself before. However, I haven't noticed any downtime with the site lately. I've heard Rich dislikes his comics being rehosted, so does anyone else think we might want to stop rehosting them in favor of linking to the comic when a new one comes up? I remember other comic authors in our shop talk thread holding similar issues with comic rehosting, although mostly with those awful conglomerate sites that take comics from all over with a ton of advertising. I think this is a good idea.
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The clean shaven half-giant agnostic quip made my day.
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Can someone link back the comic that this comic is referencing?
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