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Loopyface
Mar 22, 2003

Supreme Allah posted:

A page late on the Adamantium stuff but it's always bugged me that Wolverine supposedly is carrying around 50 or 100 lbs of the stuff, as in Origins when he sits on the motorcycle and the suspension bottoms out. His skeleton is LACED with Adamantium, not replaced by it. In an early Wolverine comic he even says it's only about 8 lbs worth of the stuff in his body. I know Marvel has apparently changed this canonically to where it is now adding a ton of weight, but that makes no sense. It would have to be like half an inch thick coating over every part of his skeleton to weigh that much.

So, adamantium is really heavy?

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Oh, let me find the chart I made demonstrating Wonka's quarterly profit margins were probably too bad to enable such high investments into innovation, suggesting he might be guilty of severe tax frauds.

And the essay on how Scrooge McDuck's mercantilist trade practices would affect the liquidity of his assets in such a way, it would be virtually impossible for him to accumulate enough gold to fill up a standard swimming pool, not to mention a giant silo.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
If people are trying to apply reality to Willy Wonka (quite clearly intended to be just silly) and Scrooge McDuck (a drat cartoon) then people are much more petty then I initially realized :psyduck:

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Gram-O-Phone posted:

Actually, there is another thing about that movie (and book, I guess). Wonka develops this amazing transmission device (which he dubs, somewhat narcissistically, Wonkavision) which allows him to send an actual, solid bar of chocolate into your TV set for you to eat.
Oh hey, that's right - the video game playing kid was 100% right about that device, and it annoys me that it was never acknowledged. I mean, there's "Wonka is a big goofy retarded child at heart" and then there's "hogging a device that could revolutionize transportation as we know it". I guess people can empathize with the first, but how can you support the second?

sum
Nov 15, 2010

Malachite_Dragon posted:

If people are trying to apply reality to Willy Wonka (quite clearly intended to be just silly) and Scrooge McDuck (a drat cartoon) then people are much more petty then I initially realized :psyduck:

the scrooge mcduck post was a satire

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
Who got Mike Teavee an account?

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Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat

Gram-O-Phone posted:

giant chocolate bars

Also shrinking something doesn't change its mass. It would still weigh as much (and presumably be as filling) as an enormous chocolate bar.

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax

Synonamess Botch posted:

Also shrinking something doesn't change its mass. It would still weigh as much (and presumably be as filling) as an enormous chocolate bar.

Clearly the shrinking process creates negative mass, which they then add to the lifting drinks. It makes perfect sense that way.

Invisble Manuel
Nov 4, 2009
In Die Hard with a Vengeance, they think there's this binary explosive liquid in one of the schools, and they discover it. The tech guy is sweating, trying to disarm the bomb before the liquids are combined. When the liquids are not combined, they are supposed to be inert -- so why doesn't someone shoot one of the tanks, or drill a hole, or even use a pick or hammer or whatever Bruce WillisJohn McClain used, and drain just one of the tanks. Then the bomb is useless, right?

And Star Wars - flying through the trench. At some point, someone notes that there are no more gun towers. After noting that, why wouldn't everyone else start their trench run at the place where there are no turrets? It's not like you have to fly the entire length of the trench.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Invisble Manuel posted:

And Star Wars - flying through the trench. At some point, someone notes that there are no more gun towers. After noting that, why wouldn't everyone else start their trench run at the place where there are no turrets? It's not like you have to fly the entire length of the trench.

It's not that there are no turrets, they just stop firing because the TIE fighters pull up behind them.

And I was under the impression that the trench was safer than the surface...lots more guns up there. And trying to go in "perpendicular" to the surface to circumvent the turbolasers wouldn't work, you wouldn't be able to "pull up" in time to not crash, so get in the trench early by going in at a low attack angle, or something?

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Xander77 posted:

Oh hey, that's right - the video game playing kid was 100% right about that device, and it annoys me that it was never acknowledged. I mean, there's "Wonka is a big goofy retarded child at heart" and then there's "hogging a device that could revolutionize transportation as we know it". I guess people can empathize with the first, but how can you support the second?

It's not such a wondrous transportation technology if it's only been proven to work on chocolate bars and spoiled children who need to be taught a lesson.

Der Luftwaffle
Dec 29, 2008

DrBouvenstein posted:

It's not that there are no turrets, they just stop firing because the TIE fighters pull up behind them.

And I was under the impression that the trench was safer than the surface...lots more guns up there. And trying to go in "perpendicular" to the surface to circumvent the turbolasers wouldn't work, you wouldn't be able to "pull up" in time to not crash, so get in the trench early by going in at a low attack angle, or something?

Understanding it helps if you've played the Gamecube Rogue Squadron games. In both Death Star surface missions there are an absolute fuckton of gun towers and fighters buzzing around, both of which always have line of sight on you at all times, so you'll be taking hits even if you're flying as unpredictably as possible. Getting into the trench as soon as possible makes sense since now you only really have to deal with enemies at your front or back, both of whom can be evaded by juking around.

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen

Malachite_Dragon posted:

If people are trying to apply reality to Willy Wonka (quite clearly intended to be just silly) and Scrooge McDuck (a drat cartoon) then people are much more petty then I initially realized :psyduck:

Well, this is the Irrationally Irritating thread.

Content: Land Before Time - Littlefoot, Ducky, Petrie and Spike were completely covered in tar/oil when they pretended to be a monster to rescue Cera. How on earth did they manage to get it all off? It always bugged me as a kid, especially since I once watched a documentary about sea otters that spent a good ten minutes just panning over otters caught in oils slicks and :gonk:

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
... You know what? I know exactly the scene you're talking about, I watched that goddamn movie a hundred thousand times as a kid, and it never occured to me to wonder that exact thing :stare: If i remember right, it just kind of... oozes off of them, which isn't how it works at all...

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
On the other hand, those leaves looked delicious.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Magic Hate Ball posted:

On the other hand, those leaves looked delicious.

I'm not ashamed to admit that that movie was directly responsible for a young me eagerly attempting to consume a leaf the next time I was at my grandmother's house. Not a mistake you repeat :(

Tree Huffer
Jul 26, 2007

dude were so
high right now
hahaha
But on the other hand, it was also responsible for me eating salads when I was a youngin'! Whenever my parents put lettuce or cabbage on anything, Mom and Dad would just tell me they were leaves and I'd eat it right up. :3:

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins

DrBouvenstein posted:

Yeah, it shows her contempt for the Terminator. There's a deleted scene in that same garage where the T-800 (?) says he has to have a switch on his CPU turned on so he can go into "learning mode," or something, and Sarah agrees to do it, and almost smashes the CPU with a hammer when she has it removed from his head, but John stops her. They should have left it in, because again, it really shows her hatred of him, despite knowing deep down that John is right and they need him. It also makes her speech towards the end when their on the farm about how the Terminator would make a better father than anyone else more poignant...she's accepted him as more than a protector.
It's also really a shame they cut that scene because it contains the coolest non-CG practical camera trick in the movie.

The mirror Sarah's using to do robot brain surgery isn't a mirror: On one side, Linda Hamilton cuts the chip out of an Arnold dummy's head. On the other side, James Cameron cast Linda Hamilton's identical twin sister Leslie to mimic her, while working on the real Arnold's head.

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Terminator 2 is one of the absolute triumphs of combining practical effects and CGI. For every cool CGI trick there's something equally phenomenal like "they actually flew a helicopter under an overpass to get that shot."

Robzor McFabulous
Jan 31, 2011
I just watched Ice Age - Dawn of the Dinosaurs. There's a bit where Buck the crazy weasel is talking into a rock as if it was a mobile phone, to show the viewers just how loopy he is. This irritated me, they'd done a fine job already showing the audience that he's genuinely mad, why go so far as to have him pretending to use a modern device he couldn't possibly know about?

The other "jokes for the grownups" were funny enough in the context of the situation, like the Flintstones reference, but that bit just bugged me.

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

Bonk posted:

It's also really a shame they cut that scene because it contains the coolest non-CG practical camera trick in the movie.

The mirror Sarah's using to do robot brain surgery isn't a mirror: On one side, Linda Hamilton cuts the chip out of an Arnold dummy's head. On the other side, James Cameron cast Linda Hamilton's identical twin sister Leslie to mimic her, while working on the real Arnold's head.
Lots of twin usage in T2; Leslie is also seen in the scenes at the steel mill where the T-1000 imitates Sarah. (Another set of twins was cast as the security guard and the T-1000 for the scene in the hospital.)

Christmas Jones
Apr 12, 2007

nuklear fizzicist

Robzor McFabulous posted:

I just watched Ice Age - Dawn of the Dinosaurs.

The title of the film is irrationally irritating me.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Christmas Jones posted:

The title of the film is irrationally irritating me.

I hated it too, I assume based on the same reason you do (dinosaurs were millions of years before the ice age...well, the ice age depicted in the movies,) but I guess the plot is that a "pocket" of land got sealed off with dinosaurs still in it?

Still shouldn't have been called Dawn of the Dinosaurs, though...how about Return of the Dinosaurs? Makes more sense.

Christmas Jones
Apr 12, 2007

nuklear fizzicist

DrBouvenstein posted:

I hated it too, I assume based on the same reason you do (dinosaurs were millions of years before the ice age...well, the ice age depicted in the movies,) but I guess the plot is that a "pocket" of land got sealed off with dinosaurs still in it?

Still shouldn't have been called Dawn of the Dinosaurs, though...how about Return of the Dinosaurs? Makes more sense.

All that, plus how crass the marketing intent is. I never had much interest in the Ice Age movies, but I thought it was neat they set their wacky animal movie in an era that doesn't get as much media attention.

I didn't know the movie existed and now I'm mad.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

NaturalLow posted:

The main thing that always bugged me about the whole Matrix rescue sequence was the part where they actually get to Morpheus. He's handcuffed to a chair in the middle of a room with no cover so what do they decide to do? Completely spray the entire room with a huge machine gun. Yes there were panes of glass in the way and an agent in the room, but neither of those is going to block the massive amount of bullets Neo unloads pretty much directly at Morpheus (who at this point is still unable to move out of the way).

I'm willing to overlook it as possibly some handwaving trick with the code or something. But it's just such a dumb decision on Neo's part since he seemed pretty hellbent on bringing Morpheus back alive.

I'm pretty there's a shot in that sequence from over Neo's shoulder that shows him moving the gun around a circle to avoid hitting Morpheus in the middle of the room - I only noticed it when I asked that exact same question.

Also, everyone explaining the Unobtanium thing as a MacGuffin - I don't give a poo poo about MacGuffins. I shouldn't have to know a long-running scifi joke or convention to watch a movie that everyone on Earth has to see five times so it can break even. Unless you're familiar with the term, it sounds awkward and clunky and stupid, much in the same way that the Donnie Darko "extended features" are needed to understand the storyline. I paid to watch this movie in a cinema, I can understand what you put in front of me and unless it's a sequel, it's unreasonable to expect anyone who isn't intimate with injokey film stuff not to "gently caress, what a stupid name for a metal. I would have called it chuzwuzzium". The thing that really did it for me in Avatar was the dancing on the Walkman thing. Wait, they shrunk all of a sudden?

Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat
e: wrong thread

uberwekkness
Jul 25, 2008

You have to train harder to make it to nationals.
In the extended version of Beauty and the Beast, with human again, I hate the bit with Belle and Beast reading Romeo and Juliet. I don't really hate the idea of it. I hate that they look all "awww so sweet..." after finishing reading it. Romeo and Juliet is loving depressing, especially when you remember that they're like 13 and 15 or something. It's really not very romantic at all, and these two people, one of which is a loving bibliophile, are sighing giddily about two children who died from a romance that probably would have fizzled on its own if it could have taken its natural course.

I can understand that maybe you don't want your protagonists to be crying over a story whose genre most children are lied to about. If that's the case, pick a different drat book.

DrankSinatra
Aug 25, 2011
There's one particular thing about the end of the movie Source Code that really, really bugs me.

So, in the end you get the whole happy "Everybody survived [sorta] and the protagonist gets to be with his love" ending, and it seems really nice. BUT -what about the dude whose body he's occupying? Everyone from the train is okay in this universe, but this one guy has been erased from existence, and his body is now occupied by a random interloper who presumably runs off to start a new life with a woman he met on the train. Won't his family notice? Won't his coworkers notice? Poor guy.

Christmas Jones
Apr 12, 2007

nuklear fizzicist

uberwekkness posted:

In the extended version of Beauty and the Beast, with human again, I hate the bit with Belle and Beast reading Romeo and Juliet. I don't really hate the idea of it. I hate that they look all "awww so sweet..." after finishing reading it. Romeo and Juliet is loving depressing, especially when you remember that they're like 13 and 15 or something. It's really not very romantic at all, and these two people, one of which is a loving bibliophile, are sighing giddily about two children who died from a romance that probably would have fizzled on its own if it could have taken its natural course.

I can understand that maybe you don't want your protagonists to be crying over a story whose genre most children are lied to about. If that's the case, pick a different drat book.

I had a college professor who freaked out about Romeo and Juliet (and Hamlet) about high school lesson plans and pop culture ruining it to the point where it was unteachable to college students.

"Human Again" was bad on most levels anyway.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Christmas Jones posted:

I had a college professor who freaked out about Romeo and Juliet (and Hamlet) about high school lesson plans and pop culture ruining it to the point where it was unteachable to college students.
I quite enjoyed how Shakespeare in Love treated the play.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Invisble Manuel posted:

In Die Hard with a Vengeance, they think there's this binary explosive liquid in one of the schools, and they discover it. The tech guy is sweating, trying to disarm the bomb before the liquids are combined. When the liquids are not combined, they are supposed to be inert -- so why doesn't someone shoot one of the tanks, or drill a hole, or even use a pick or hammer or whatever Bruce WillisJohn McClain used, and drain just one of the tanks. Then the bomb is useless, right?

You could put a pressure sensor in each tank and if it senses a change in pressure before the bomb is triggered it could activate. If you shattered it, it would only mix a small amount of the stuff obviously, but I would imagine enough to start the reaction.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Unobtanium is also a lame joke in the real world. It describes any substance perfect for a task that is also nearly unobtainable. For instance, the stuff they use to make the hull of the B-2 wonder weapon bullshit superplane was referred to as unobtanium.

Something that's bugged me in a couple of Sci-Fi movies is the uniformity of vehicles. There are about 8 variants of Blackhawk Helicopter (I think) 8 iterations of the Cobra gunship, yet, in an interstellar war, every dropship in Starship Troopers is identical? And it makes even less sense when you make the objects bigger. When spaceships are the size of small islands, and there's no variation?

Homeybeef
May 23, 2008
Continuing my issues with Source Code

Every time Stevens is sent in to the source code, it is the creation of a new reality. In that new reality, the train explodes. So in that new reality, they are creating a new reality. So for every new reality created, an infinite string of new realities is also created each of which creates their own infinite string of new realities :aaaaa:.

Now let's say that in one of these realities, Stevens decided to get off the train at the stop and just walk away. Once the 8 minutes was up, Stevens would be ejected from the source code and presumably Shaun would regain control of his body. So first Shaun is going to be very confused as to why he is no longer on that train that just exploded. How would you feel if you were heading to Chicago talking to a pretty girl then all of a sudden 8 minutes have passed, you're no longer on the train and the train has exploded. That poor guy is going to have some trouble with his sanity in that reality. Also, without Shaun on the train, Stevens will have to be put into a different body. Poor guy.

Speaking of which, when Stevens did get off the train only to get hit by another train, the 8 minutes was up. The first train has already exploded. So not only is Shaun regaining his body at a pretty lovely time, but in that reality, they have someone who got off the train accusing someone of being the bomber. Did they even bother using source code in that one or did they just question Christina until Chicago gets bombed?

I'm gonna stop now.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Because we're on the Avatar deal, one thing that always always pisses me off whenever there is a Princess Who Wants To Marry For Love, or just a princess in general, who marries some interloper stranger from outside the group. Now, before anyone calls me a Nazi, the thing with most royal families/leader families is that marriages are arranged for political reasons. We see it in Disney's Aladdin and Pocahontas, or rather its astute lack.

But really, in Aladdin do we think for a minute any of the palace guards or servants or the city in general will look at their new street rat sultan and go, all right, this is what we need! We need an untrained leader who knows nothing about taxes or trade routes, whose claim to fame is lying to everyone! This is great!

Well, for the Navi there are no taxes or trade routes we see, but presumably the other catpeople might be pissed if one of the people who helped ruin their tribe is now the leader. One would think the head honchos of the tribe wouldn't have assigned their sexy unmarried princess daughter to watch this rogue; first have her be married to that intended dude (who of course had to die so True Love can reign) and then have her be some ambassador.

But hey, it's Avatar. Jake Sully is Jesus.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Also he engineers a war that sees most of his competitors for the royal blue vag killed in action. Smart, evil Jake Sully.

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Unobtanium is a cool name because its a scientist joke about any material that does a magic thing and/or is hella hard to find, we've been over this. Its cool though because obviously when they discovered the planet and all that some nerd scientist called it Unobtanium for fun as a little private joke amongst his science pals and then when the military and corporations move in they either don't give a poo poo or are too dumb to realise and just keep the name.

Its like the military bringing out a revolutionary new interstellar spaceship that was codenamed Voyager and being completely oblivious while a bunch of dudes in thick glasses and lab coats are trying to hold in the giggles behind them.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

DrankSinatra posted:

There's one particular thing about the end of the movie Source Code that really, really bugs me.

So, in the end you get the whole happy "Everybody survived [sorta] and the protagonist gets to be with his love" ending, and it seems really nice. BUT -what about the dude whose body he's occupying? Everyone from the train is okay in this universe, but this one guy has been erased from existence, and his body is now occupied by a random interloper who presumably runs off to start a new life with a woman he met on the train. Won't his family notice? Won't his coworkers notice? Poor guy.

Yeah but The alternative is he dies in a horrible explosion so it doesn't really matter

headrest
May 1, 2009
In 50 First Dates, Drew Barrymore's family goes to great lengths to make Drew live the same day over and over again, so she does not realize she cannot remember any new information, making it appear no time has passed between the day before the accident that gave her the problem and the day she wakes up with a clean slate.

What if she woke up on her period?

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Eclipse12
Feb 20, 2008

Cowslips Warren posted:

Because we're on the Avatar deal, one thing that always always pisses me off whenever there is a Princess Who Wants To Marry For Love, or just a princess in general, who marries some interloper stranger from outside the group. Now, before anyone calls me a Nazi, the thing with most royal families/leader families is that marriages are arranged for political reasons. We see it in Disney's Aladdin and Pocahontas, or rather its astute lack.


Any decent cultural anthropologist would agree with you. The vast majority of cultures that do exist (and almost universally before the 20th century) looked at marriage as an economic union; a merger or two corporations, to put it one way. There are contracts, bargaining, compensations, and profit planning. The idea that marriage is only about love is a fairly recent concept, primarily among modernized nations. For the majority of humanity that has ever existed, marriage was a business deal.

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Dickweasel Alpha
Feb 8, 2011

Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars

Pwnstar posted:

Unobtanium is a cool name because its a scientist joke about any material that does a magic thing and/or is hella hard to find, we've been over this. Its cool though because obviously when they discovered the planet and all that some nerd scientist called it Unobtanium for fun as a little private joke amongst his science pals and then when the military and corporations move in they either don't give a poo poo or are too dumb to realise and just keep the name.

Its like the military bringing out a revolutionary new interstellar spaceship that was codenamed Voyager and being completely oblivious while a bunch of dudes in thick glasses and lab coats are trying to hold in the giggles behind them.

You can reach really far and assume that, but at the end of the day it's still James Cameron giving a stupid loving name to a MacGuffin because it's a MacGuffin. It's given the least amount of development in the movie (saying a lot) and it's the most important drat thing in the movie.

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