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Forgive me for not reading the 3 previous megathreads or all 214 pages of this one, but how long does the action in "A New Hope" take? I watched it again last night and for the first time was struck with how constant the pacing was. There's never a moment where you get a sense that a lot of time has passed.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:21
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If you go by all the EU bullshit, Empire takes place about three years after A New Hope, and Jedi is a year after that. A New Hope probably takes place over the course of a few weeks.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:32
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Timby posted:If you go by all the EU bullshit, Empire takes place about three years after A New Hope, and Jedi is a year after that. A New Hope probably takes place over the course of a few weeks. That's not at all EU bullshit. That is G canon.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:39
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Probably less than that. The droids crash on the planet and I find it unlikely that it's more than a day or two before Luke and Owen buy them. Then the next day they're off looking for R2D2 and they find Obi Wan. Maybe it takes them a day or two to get to Mos Eisley, but probably not that long. And after getting to Mos Eisley they leave a few hours later. Then they're in space for a few more hours, go to the death star, it takes them a few hours to rescue Leia and escape and kill some tie fighters on the way home. In a few more hours they get to Yavin, then rush to prepare for battle before the death star gets there, which can't be more than another few hours since the death star was right behind them. Then, they destroy the death star in 15 minutes. The celebration might be a few days later but who knows.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:43
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OK, so I just finished watching ANH on Blu-Ray. If you can digitally insert Sy loving Snootles and a weird brown tribble thing doing a musical number, or digitally insert Jabba the loving Hutt and make Ewoks blink why can't you: 1. Fix R2's black panels during the Death Star attack 2. Fix the fact that David Prowse's eyes are often visible in the Vader mask 3. Fix the horribly lovely rotoscoping on Obi-Wan's lightsaber after three loving revisions Bolkovr posted:Forgive me for not reading the 3 previous megathreads or all 214 pages of this one, but how long does the action in "A New Hope" take? I watched it again last night and for the first time was struck with how constant the pacing was. There's never a moment where you get a sense that a lot of time has passed. I will say it certainly went by much quicker than I remembered. The Death Star bits in the middle didn't drag nearly as badly as I remembered.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:48
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Gianthogweed posted:The celebration might be a few days later but who knows. I have to think the celebration was thrown together as quickly as possible while there was a frantic evacuation in progress off camera. I assume that the rest of the Imperial fleet got the news of where the rebel base was and would be on the way.
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Sep 19, 2011 02:50
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I have to think the celebration was thrown together as quickly as possible while there was a frantic evacuation in progress off camera. I assume that the rest of the Imperial fleet got the news of where the rebel base was and would be on the way. The Marvel comics have some really ridiculous stuff involving this. Off the top of my head, rather than the Empire sending all of its forces to Yavin to eradicate the Rebellion immediately, they wait a few months and then send a fleet to blockade it and then send some ground troops down to skirmish with the Rebels but the Rebels all escape. It's one of the things from the Marvel comics that the later EU really should have just discarded. I think one of the Battlefront games includes a level set during the Yavin evacuation.
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Sep 19, 2011 03:13
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Chairman Capone posted:The Marvel comics have some really ridiculous stuff involving this. Off the top of my head, rather than the Empire sending all of its forces to Yavin to eradicate the Rebellion immediately, they wait a few months and then send a fleet to blockade it and then send some ground troops down to skirmish with the Rebels but the Rebels all escape. It's one of the things from the Marvel comics that the later EU really should have just discarded. I think one of the Battlefront games includes a level set during the Yavin evacuation. One of the only good things in Rogue Squadron 3 was the evacuation of Yavin level.
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Sep 19, 2011 03:14
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Bolkovr posted:I watched it again last night and for the first time was struck with how constant the pacing was. There's never a moment where you get a sense that a lot of time has passed. It's been mentioned plenty of times, but I don't think it's possible to sing the praises of Marcia Lucas too much. She edited the film, and along with John Williams she's probably the single most important reason the film turned out as well as it did. Her Oscar is the only one a Lucas ever won for Star Wars, and it was well-deserved.
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Sep 19, 2011 03:38
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I have to think the celebration was thrown together as quickly as possible while there was a frantic evacuation in progress off camera. I assume that the rest of the Imperial fleet got the news of where the rebel base was and would be on the way. They must have done a hell of a rush job polishing Threepio and putting Artoo back together.
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Sep 19, 2011 04:52
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Timby posted:A New Hope probably takes place over the course of a few weeks. “Today will be a day long remembered. It has seen the death of Kenobi, and will soon see the end of the Rebellion.” It's up to you how long the earlier parts of the movies might be, but from the escape from the Death Star to the end of the movie is apparently a single afternoon. Depending on how long it took to travel through hyperspace, the movie might take place over just two days. Maybe three, I forget if Threepio saw a night before the Skywalkers bought him and Artoo.
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Sep 19, 2011 04:52
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I there some ego thing involved in this? Is George miffed that he didn't get to call all the shots in the OT, so he's tweaking them and vowing to erase the originals to give his old colleagues the finger?
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Sep 19, 2011 04:54
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Haha wow, I've just been watching the blu ray edition of Return of the Jedi - Vader's dubbed in nooo at the end is hilariously bad! That being said, the rest of the original trilogy are fantastic after being remastered and in HD, well worth the purchase so far
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Sep 19, 2011 05:07
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Thats the big thing. The movies looking amazing, at times with some of the details that come through its like seeing the movies for the first time all over again. Brings back a little of the magic in a way. As for the changes despite how much we all bash them, in the end they are entirely ignorable for the most part. The only change I think I can honestly say that actually does bother me is the vader no.
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Sep 19, 2011 05:31
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Not A Bear posted:Haha wow, I've just been watching the blu ray edition of Return of the Jedi - Vader's dubbed in nooo at the end is hilariously bad! You are the reason these things exist at all. You and people like you.
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Sep 19, 2011 05:32
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All my fault? drat, and there I was thinking I'd lead a fairly blameless life! I dunno, initially I was like you, upset about the changes - but it's not like I've lost the memories or my VHS copies of the original unmolested trilogy. The extras themselves are also (so far) comprehensive and really interesting, I've only watched the ones for the original trilogy so far, I'm putting off going back to the prequels for a little bit. Also, did anyone else feel that they'd edited some of the sequences in the original trilogy slightly differently, I haven't done a comparison, but I think the point where the millennium falcon destroys one of Vader's wingmen and Luke fires the torpedoes that destroys the death star happens in a slightly different order. I'll have to watch it again to be sure though!
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Sep 19, 2011 05:53
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VanSandman posted:You are the reason these things exist at all. You and people like you. To be fair, he didn't ask Lucas to change poo poo. No one on the planet did. The blame lies only with Lucas. We just wanted the movies on blu-ray in HD. I had heard when they remastered them for the DVD SE's, they did remaster them in HD and simply downconverted for DVD. All I really wanted was those HD versions. I want to protest the stupid changes, but I'd also like the best visual quality for the other 99% of the movies that aren't changed. Ultimately I'll probably end up getting this set if there's a sale or if I get the urge to rewatch the movies. I watched them a couple years ago so I'm okay for now.
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Sep 19, 2011 05:58
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Bluray players still play DVDs, right? Yeah, not gettin 'em.
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Sep 19, 2011 06:12
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Bolkovr posted:how long does the action in "A New Hope" take? I watched it again last night and for the first time was struck with how constant the pacing was. There's never a moment where you get a sense that a lot of time has passed. For some serious sperging, ask a SW fanboy how long Luke was training for on Dagobah.
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Sep 19, 2011 07:26
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Hemp Knight posted:For some serious sperging, ask a SW fanboy how long Luke was training for on Dagobah. That question has been asked like 8 times in this thread's lifespan. And I think I was one of the ones asking.
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Sep 19, 2011 07:39
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So just how long was he training for? I thought it was a few days or so?
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Sep 19, 2011 08:30
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Jefferoo posted:So just how long was he training for? I thought it was a few days or so? The general fan consensus appears to be several weeks, usually placed around 6. Enough time to learn Jedi tricks and for a disabled starship to slowly limp to Cloud City.
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Sep 19, 2011 08:55
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Mister Roboto posted:The general fan consensus appears to be several weeks, usually placed around 6. Enough time to learn Jedi tricks and for a disabled starship to slowly limp to Cloud City. Well no wonder Han & Leia had fallen in love by the time they got to cloud city. Except it wasn't love, it was more like Stockholm Syndrome or something. 
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Sep 19, 2011 14:04
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Chairman Capone posted:The Marvel comics have some really ridiculous stuff involving this. Off the top of my head, rather than the Empire sending all of its forces to Yavin to eradicate the Rebellion immediately, they wait a few months and then send a fleet to blockade it and then send some ground troops down to skirmish with the Rebels but the Rebels all escape. It's one of the things from the Marvel comics that the later EU really should have just discarded. I think one of the Battlefront games includes a level set during the Yavin evacuation. Battlefront 2 has it as a level. You don't get to take part in any bit of the Death Star fight, but supposedly like 75% of the 501st (who are supposed to be the 'competent' troopers) were killed in the explosion, joined up with some other survivors, said gently caress it, and invaded Yavin IV. You fight your way uphill, blow up the front door to the rebel base, and kill three rebel generals/leaders. Later they go on to Hoth to kick rear end, so if you accept Battlefront games as canon in some way then the clonetroopers managed to last until Hoth at the very least, and all (mostly) as the same batch, though I'd assume casualties would be replaced with other clones. Also sometime between Eps III and IV the Emperor decided to start cloning other people/taking in conscripts.
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Sep 19, 2011 14:40
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Bolkovr posted:Forgive me for not reading the 3 previous megathreads or all 214 pages of this one, but how long does the action in "A New Hope" take? I watched it again last night and for the first time was struck with how constant the pacing was. There's never a moment where you get a sense that a lot of time has passed. I'm farmboy Luke Skywalker, and today is the longest day of my life. All events occur in real time.  (It's probably a few days. Let's  about Dagobah now)
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Sep 19, 2011 15:16
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davebo posted:To be fair, he didn't ask Lucas to change poo poo. No one on the planet did. The blame lies only with Lucas. We just wanted the movies on blu-ray in HD. I had heard when they remastered them for the DVD SE's, they did remaster them in HD and simply downconverted for DVD. All I really wanted was those HD versions. I want to protest the stupid changes, but I'd also like the best visual quality for the other 99% of the movies that aren't changed. Ultimately I'll probably end up getting this set if there's a sale or if I get the urge to rewatch the movies. I watched them a couple years ago so I'm okay for now. Rifftrax makes it go down smooth. Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Bluray players still play DVDs, right? Yeah, not gettin 'em. This is the correct answer. The original cuts are available on DVD, and most of the original effects were never meant to be shown in TRUE CINEMA 3D-HD BRROOOWWWW. Nature specials like Blue Planet and Planet Earth must be seen by all human beings in high definition (ha-ha, clearance HD-DVD player, sucka!). Other than that, I really don't care.
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Sep 19, 2011 15:31
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I'd like to hear what a professional swordsman thinks of the duels in Star Wars, especially comparing the OT and PT fights.
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Sep 19, 2011 15:34
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Torael_7 posted:Well no wonder Han & Leia had fallen in love by the time they got to cloud city. Except it wasn't love, it was more like Stockholm Syndrome or something.
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Sep 19, 2011 15:34
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Payndz posted:Leia wore the same clothes the whole trip, didn't she? Ew. Or maybe she was padding around in Han's jim-jams while she washed her whites. Alternatively, space fabric.
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Sep 19, 2011 15:41
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Torael_7 posted:Well no wonder Han & Leia had fallen in love by the time they got to cloud city. Except it wasn't love, it was more like Stockholm Syndrome or something. Insert Courtship Of Princess Leia joke here.
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Sep 19, 2011 15:52
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SeanBeansShako posted:Insert Courtship Of Princess Leia joke here. That whole book was a joke. Allston did an amazing job actually fleshing out Zsinj as a villain and character. (If I recall correctly, Courtship was a few years before the X-Wing books).
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Sep 19, 2011 15:59
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TannhauserGate posted:Alternatively, space fabric. That same space fabric that lifts and seperates too, as bras don't exist in the Star Wars Universe. Young Lucas was quite the model creeper.
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Sep 19, 2011 16:04
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SeanBeansShako posted:Young Lucas was quite the model creeper. 
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Sep 19, 2011 16:23
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WebDog posted:Old Lucas designed this. Well, that was after he decided that any interaction with the opposite sex at all was evil and pointless. Good dress design though. Shame about him still pissing over our collective childhood memories for money. SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Sep 19, 2011 |
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Sep 19, 2011 16:35
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WebDog posted:Old Lucas designed this. I would have expected the evil mistress of Zorg from 5th Element to wear this. I wouldn't have expected the character that is basically the Leia-stand in to wear this. ... while she talks about not being allowed to have sex, at that.
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Sep 19, 2011 17:09
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Blue balls forced Anakin over to the dark side.
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Sep 19, 2011 17:26
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SeanBeansShako posted:Blue balls forced Anakin over to the dark side. Then how does his redemption wor... no please for the love of God don't answer that!
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Sep 19, 2011 17:34
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Grendels Dad posted:Then how does his redemption wor... no please for the love of God don't answer that! Being a electronic life supported gimp for a creepy old dude in a robe for twenty years would drive anyone to homicide.
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Sep 19, 2011 17:38
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WebDog posted:Old Lucas designed this.
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Sep 19, 2011 18:39
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SeanBeansShako posted:Being a electronic life supported gimp for a creepy old dude in a robe for twenty years would drive anyone to homicide. quote:"Like a BDSM Mermaid" a funnier man than I once said about this costume. Why, she really looks like the wife of Darth Vader here!
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