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22 Eargesplitten posted:He's talking about the woman in the giant explosion. Probably still wrong, but not "groping an underaged girl" wrong. That would be "groping an underage girl who is genetically your twin sister" wrong.
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Is X23 his clone? I thought they were just part of the same project. To be honest, I don't keep track of stuff like that. They can't even keep Wolverine's name the same.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Is X23 his clone? I thought they were just part of the same project. To be honest, I don't keep track of stuff like that. They can't even keep Wolverine's name the same. If I remember right, yes she is. Sorta. They tried making new Weapon-Xs, but they kept failing until someone got a hold of a vial full of original Wolverine blood. The sample was incomplete or something so the lead scientist mixed in some of her own DNA to complete it, so X23 came out as a girl instead of a perfect copy of Logan. Vakal fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Sep 19, 2011 |
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X-23 really is one of those concepts that is such a transparent attempt at marketing it's almost insulting, but is actually quite enjoyable as a character when you realize the writers don't write her as "Logan with tits." Like most distaff counterparts actually...
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I'm extremely rusty on my X-Men lore, but wasn't the only reason why Wolverine ever became Weapon X in the first place was because his healing factor let him survive the process? And even then, it drat near killed him. There was no shortage of quick-healing mutants in X Continuity last I checked, though 
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I'm extremely rusty on my X-Men lore, but wasn't the only reason why Wolverine ever became Weapon X in the first place was because his healing factor let him survive the process? And even then, it drat near killed him. There was no shortage of quick-healing mutants in X Continuity last I checked, though The only two that I can think of, aside from Logan, that they had access to were Deadpool and Sabertooth. Deadpool was considered a failure but why they didn't try with Sabertooth is a bit of a mystery. Maybe they just couldn't locate him at the time?All the others that have popped up since then they probably don't know about or can't get to.
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FutureBoy posted:The only two that I can think of, aside from Logan, that they had access to were Deadpool and Sabertooth. Deadpool was considered a failure but why they didn't try with Sabertooth is a bit of a mystery. Maybe they just couldn't locate him at the time?All the others that have popped up since then they probably don't know about or can't get to. IIRC, Creed was next in line for the adamantium grafting treatment after Wolverine, but Wolverine smashed up the place after he was done and killed some important staff. Victor left the project afterwards, also partly because he realised that adamantium grafts would slow his healing factor.
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DurianGray posted:Pretty sure that's Domino, actually. She's got the dark mark on her one eye. And guns. Lots of guns. I'm fine with him groping Domino. Groping X-23 is weird. It'd be like masturbation, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, I was referring to the explosion pic when I said I think that's X23. Sorry, didn't mean to start a whole derail about clone loving.
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mind the walrus posted:X-23 really is one of those concepts that is such a transparent attempt at marketing it's almost insulting, but is actually quite enjoyable as a character when you realize the writers don't write her as "Logan with tits." The entire reason X-23 exists is so Wolverine fans could finally jerk off to him.
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DJ Turbo Punch posted:Yeah, I was referring to the explosion pic when I said I think that's X23. Sorry, didn't mean to start a whole derail about clone loving. Oops, I think that may have been partially my fault.  I didn't even notice anything but skeletons in the explosion picture, so I assumed you meant the other.
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Rhyno posted:The entire reason X-23 exists is so Wolverine fans could finally jerk off to him. There's lonely neckbeards who've gotten off to Transformers, what makes you think a short, alcoholic Canadian will be any obstacle to them?  
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Yeah, I used to think that about X-23 Rhyno but I honestly don't think the kinds of fans willing to jerk off to a distaff Logan had much of a problem with weird Rule 63 stuff about Logan before X-23, and I don't think she was the solution that already creepy segment of the fanbase was looking for although she did probably legitimize it in the eyes of a few who were on the fence. I really do think she was made to boost the female X-roster without breaking the most successful formula of "loner cipher + amnesia + dangerous power + constant angst/pain" and sell a few more action figures to little kids who didn't know any better. The Rule 63 crowd was just a "if this works and the pedo-neckbeards with weird crushes on Logan latch onto her, we'll make some more money; if it doesn't... well at least we weren't directly targeting them" fringe benefit in my eyes, though I'd hate to be proven wrong.
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FutureBoy posted:The only two that I can think of, aside from Logan, that they had access to were Deadpool and Sabertooth. Deadpool was considered a failure but why they didn't try with Sabertooth is a bit of a mystery. Maybe they just couldn't locate him at the time?All the others that have popped up since then they probably don't know about or can't get to. They actually did this in Ultimate X-Men, Sabretooth got the same treatment (except he had four claws). He also claimed to be Wolverine's son. Both of these were quickly forgotten and ignored by every subsequent writer.
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I think Sabretooth claiming to be Wolverine's son was a take on the old Sabretooth claiming to be Wolverine's father thing in the 616,
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Wasn't x-23 first introduced in a children's cartoon, and she was so popular they added her to 616?
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Yeah, she was in X-men: Evolution first. She's like the Marvel Harley Quinn
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I thought her first appearance was in NYX?
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Arctic Baldwin posted:Yeah, she was in X-men: Evolution first. She's like the Marvel Harley Quinn That means Kevin Smith will name his next kid X-23. BetterToRuleInHell posted:I thought her first appearance was in NYX? Nah, that's her comic debut.
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 I really like this spread, other than Valkyrie's hammer's head being almost entirely out of frame. The whole thing is pure cheesecake, but it feels and looks fairly decently researched.
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Also personifying war as a beautiful, angelic woman is kinda creepy. Unless that's a character named war or something I don't know, I don't really read superhero comics.
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Humboldt squid posted:Also personifying war as a beautiful, angelic woman is kinda creepy. Unless that's a character named war or something I don't know, I don't really read superhero comics. Its actually from Norse Mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie If you mean that statue hey death is a woman and it is a cheesecake picture. Also Athena was goddess of war and she was known for her beauty. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Sep 20, 2011 |
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For a cheesecake, and especially for a Cho, picture they're pretty fully dressed. But Frank Cho is so great at realistic anatomy that I don't mind his cheesecake most of the time.
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Humboldt squid posted:Also personifying war as a beautiful, angelic woman is kinda creepy. I think war being creepy is a good feeling to invoke.
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For a cheesecakey picture, they have good arms, not horrible skinny sticks like you often see, and that's appreciated at least.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I'm... really not sure what to think about Lady Red Skull there. That's a real character FYI.
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Lurdiak posted:That's a real character FYI. But...why?
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Wendell posted:But...why? It's his daughter and he's dead.
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Rhyno posted:The entire reason X-23 exists is so Wolverine fans could finally jerk off to him. She exists because marvel execs bugged the creators of the X-Men evolution cartoon to feature 'more wolverine' but they wanted to keep the focus purely on the young teenage X-men. Due to the fact the cast was pretty Male heavy, they created X-23 to be the wolverine analogue for the younger mutants and she proved popular enough to later carry over to the comics.
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Wendell posted:But...why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_(Marvel_Comics)
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She was actually pretty cool, too, until Fear Itself.
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Is that when she got ugly She-Skull face? I remember liking her character--not loving, but liking--during Brubaker's run on Cap around the Winter Soldier stuff. Haven't really kept up since then. What the hell happened? She went from being a fairly standard but engaging tragic evil action chick to the 616's biggest butterface.
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Bucky blew up a mechanical Red Skull, which destroyed her face. I think.
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Finally I can now jerk off to Wolverine AND Red Skull without feeling bad!
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DJ Turbo Punch posted:Finally I can now jerk off to Wolverine AND Red Skull without feeling bad! She is still a nazi and has no face
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bobkatt013 posted:She is still a nazi and has no face
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redbackground posted:It's a hate rub. So a Rusty Venture?
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