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Ola posted:it would have been the most embarrassing thing ever, rear ending another dude completely without reason,  Ola, it's too early in the morning for gay biker porn.
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Ola posted:Don't worry Saga. If I ever pummel your tail it will be for the best reasons and no earlier than lunch. Oh good, you had me worried. There's nothing worse than unanticipated rear ending!
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Z3n posted:New rule: If your phone number isn't in my cell phone before we go for a group ride, I don't ride with you. Bad rule some of the biggest idiots I know on 2 wheels I grew up with. I don't know what that says about me.
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Z3n posted:New rule: If your phone number isn't in my cell phone before we go for a group ride, I don't ride with you. Glad I didn't go riding with you, my superior Aussie mobile number would have fooled you.
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KidDynamite posted:Bad rule some of the biggest idiots I know on 2 wheels I grew up with. I don't know what that says about me. You've got friends who ride like morons on bikes?  2ndclasscitizen posted:Glad I didn't go riding with you, my superior Aussie mobile number would have fooled you. Ha! Your number is already in my phone thanks to the magic of facebook deciding that it should make sweet love to my Android phone. 
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Z3n posted:Ha! Your number is already in my phone thanks to the magic of facebook deciding that it should make sweet love to my Android phone. Did it also add as many entries for him as there were numbers/e-mails/etc? Seeing someone's name listed 5 times was annoying. Bondematt fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Sep 29, 2011 |
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Retarded Pimp posted:Holy poo poo, look at this barn find and auction. Goddamn, this is 20 minutes from me. One of those Hondas is tempting. Incredible what interest the Indians are drawing, high bids already. MiamiKid fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 29, 2011 |
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More of the St. Louis video, fast forward a bit past the drifters and enjoy the traffic filtering/running from the cops. lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jofp-Bq-CrE
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Silver posted:More of the St. Louis video, fast forward a bit past the drifters and enjoy the traffic filtering/running from the cops. lol. My favorite part is him yelling at everyone about how they have to break down the fence to avoid 2 cop cars. Bondematt posted:Did it also add as many entries for him as there were numbers/e-mails/etc? Seeing someone's name listed 5 times was annoying. Nah, it worked right. Thankfully. Z3n fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 29, 2011 |
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MiamiKid posted:Goddamn, this is 20 minutes from me. One of those Hondas is tempting. Incredible what interest the Indians are drawing, high bids already. This is hours away from me and I'm still thinking of bidding on the Kawi triples.
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Z3n posted:My favorite part is him yelling at everyone about how they have to break down the fence to avoid 2 cop cars. It can get really sketchy at road blocks pretty fast with bikes bumping into each other, cops ramming with the brush guards, cops hitting with their clubs, etc. So, you take your chances with funneling through the cars, or you completely avoid it and hop the median, go backwards if there is an exit nearby, etc. inolen fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 30, 2011 |
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inolen posted:It can get really sketchy at road blocks pretty fast with bikes bumping into each other, cops ramming with the brush guards, cops hitting with their clubs, etc. lol.txt
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HNasty posted:lol.txt AncientTV posted:I knew you were a stunta at heart. I've rode a lot of streets in the past, but I'm not trying to argue about the wrongs/rights of street riding, just pointing out that he's not saying that just because he can't maneuver around two cop cars. Road blocks are a terrible idea for everyone in these situations.
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inolen posted:It can get really sketchy at road blocks pretty fast with bikes bumping into each other, cops ramming with the brush guards, cops hitting with their clubs, etc. The entire thing is just really silly, because honestly, if you're gonna ride like that, if you're not willing to go the whole hog, you're an idiot. You're at the front of a group of guys 100+ strong, gently caress it, just run. Don't pussy around like an idiot, they can't catch all of you or even any of you. The first guy who hit the block should have just run it, kept the entire line of bikes moving, and everyone would have come out OK unless they were bad enough to get caught. I'm not proud of this part of my history as a rider, but I definitely had rides that involved extended triple digits down public roads, 120+ through corners, and if you're gonna ride like that, just accept that you're either running or take your licks when you get stopped. Don't pussy around and gently caress poo poo up by trying to backtrack or any of that, just own it, one way or another. If I were in that group and some idiot was going against the flow of traffic to try and yell about breaking through a fence I'd be loving pissed, because he's in the way of me and everyone behind me getting the gently caress out of there. This is, of course, aside from the considerable issues of doing standup wheelies into oncoming traffic. 
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Retarded Pimp posted:Holy poo poo, look at this barn find and auction. Finally got to looking at these auctions and HOLY poo poo. If those Kawis stay below $500 until the end of the auction(doubt it), I'd be really tempted to pay nearly the same just to ship it to Washington, or my dad's in Michigan. He who dies with the most toys, makes for an awesome auction for the living.
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Z3n posted:The entire thing is just really silly, because honestly, if you're gonna ride like that, if you're not willing to go the whole hog, you're an idiot. You're at the front of a group of guys 100+ strong, gently caress it, just run. Don't pussy around like an idiot, they can't catch all of you or even any of you. The first guy who hit the block should have just run it, kept the entire line of bikes moving, and everyone would have come out OK unless they were bad enough to get caught. Ride like that? This is the thing you're missing, it's not about being the most extreme billy bad rear end super cool rider to a lot of those guys. To some sure, but most of them are legitimately just trying to have a chill day doing some wheelies with all of their friends. Maybe from the outside in it looks different, but it's really no different than me going to Quakecon to hang out with a bunch of quake nerds to 1v1 all day. Unfortunately there aren't lots big enough for them to get together in without getting the boot, so they take to the streets where it's pretty hard for cops to rain on their parade. Doing a lot of "going the whole hog" is what gets you locked up or injured fast and it's really not what most of these guys are trying to do. You could call it being a pussy, but I call it being halfway smart about participating in your illegal activity and having a better chance at making it home at the end of the day.
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Z3n posted:This is, of course, aside from the considerable issues of doing standup wheelies into oncoming traffic. Exactly, this is very important. All wheelies should be done this way so as to give approaching drivers maximum appreciation for your awesomeness. 
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inolen posted:Ride like that? Trying to play off what they're doing as innocent chilling out is just wrong. It's dangerous and puts other people in harms way and gives a terrible reputation to the safe motorcycling community. There's absolutely no excuse for their behavior.
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inolen posted:Ride like that? I really don't think that you can make the argument that doing standup wheelies in the oncoming lane of traffic across a divided freeway is "Just going out to pull some chill wheelies". I've gone out to pull wheelies with my buddies and I go out of my way to do it in places where the cops aren't, where the people aren't, because I'm going out to pull wheelies, and the smart, safe thing to do is do it in a place where no one knows you're there, no one sees you, no one knows where you're going, and no one cares. If it gets the point where the cops can setup up a roadblock for you, you're not doing it just to go roll some chill wheelies with your friends. You know what makes it impossible for the cops to rain on your parade? Renting a drag strip or a runway. If stunters were interested in being really legit, you'd get together and rent some skidpads, or runways...just like track riders, or trials riders, or offroad riders, or every other form of riders have done for the last century. It's not sour apples about having to spend money on tracktime, it's that doing a standup into oncoming traffic is loving INSANE and could easily get the rider and innocent bystanders killed. You don't do standups into traffic because you want to roll some chill wheelies. This is nothing like going to quakecon, because quakecon rents space or arranges it within the community to have it's events. You guys are getting together and blocking traffic, doing stupid poo poo in traffic, and getting roadblocks set up by the cops for you. No one takes stunters seriously because you all act like a bunch of goddamn children with no understanding of what you are doing. Your sport will forever be marginalized as long as you don't talk out against the dangers and idiocy inherent on stunting on the streets...because soon enough, you guys are gonna get hosed HARD by the long arm the law because of your inability to regulate. We're already seeing it happen in FL, in CA, and it's gonna keep happening, and it's gonna gently caress the entire community if you guys don't learn to grow the gently caress up and act like adults. I enjoy a dangerous sport, I enjoy wheelies, I enjoy stoppies, I'm learning standups and will eventually move to circle wheelies. But I have no desire to be involved in the stunting community because it's filled with moronic assclowns who aren't willing to stand up for what's right to improve their own community.
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Z3n posted:I really don't think that you can make the argument that doing standup wheelies in the oncoming lane of traffic across a divided freeway is "Just going out to pull some chill wheelies". I really don't think you can use an extreme case in an argument where I said "mostly." Z3n posted:I've gone out to pull wheelies with my buddies and I go out of my way to do it in places where the cops aren't, where the people aren't, because I'm going out to pull wheelies, and the smart, safe thing to do is do it in a place where no one knows you're there, no one sees you, no one knows where you're going, and no one cares. That's cool, and I've rode a sport bike on a street once in the last 4 years, and in the lots 4-5 days a week for the past 7 years. I think I understand what you're saying here. Z3n posted:If it gets the point where the cops can setup up a roadblock for you, you're not doing it just to go roll some chill wheelies with your friends. I've been in at least 5 road blocks by the CHP while living in LA and doing street rides. They're always chaos and do nothing more than to break some bikes, injure some people and get a few innocent kids in the back some bullshit tickets or in really hosed up cases, felony evading charges. Road blocks in situations like this add even more danger to the situation and are unnecessary, and I was just pointing out that charging full force at them in order to not be a "pussy" isn't always the best course of action Z3n posted:You know what makes it impossible for the cops to rain on your parade? Renting a drag strip or a runway. If stunters were interested in being really legit, you'd get together and rent some skidpads, or runways...just like track riders, or trials riders, or offroad riders, or every other form of riders have done for the last century. It's not sour apples about having to spend money on tracktime, it's that doing a standup into oncoming traffic is loving INSANE and could easily get the rider and innocent bystanders killed. You don't do standups into traffic because you want to roll some chill wheelies. Yes, that's how it works in more matured sports. Our sport is newer, more events like this happen each year, but street riding still is what it is. The fact that the sport will evolve and slowly illegal street riding will become a smaller portion of the big picture is pretty obvious. Sitting around rehashing that it's bad and has to change is just .. wasting your time. I just don't understand the immediate need to be negative. Edit: Gonna bow out now, I'm getting no work done  I really didn't want to argue streets vs lots, just point out that head on charging a road block isn't always best.
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inolen posted:I really don't think you can use an extreme case in an argument where I said "mostly." These are the representations that we get of the stunting community. If 99% of the riders are riding totally responsibly, and only 1% of them aren't, but the 99% actively encourages those 1% by posting videos, props, etc, then the entire community is encouraging the problem. quote:That's cool, and I've rode a sport bike on a street once in the last 4 years, and in the lots 4-5 days a week for the past 7 years. I think I understand what you're saying here. Right, this is why I think you should take a stand. We all know these rides devolve into bullshit dick waving contests, just like lots of twisty rides do...take advantage of your voice in the community, and move towards encouraging responsible stunting. You already live that positive example, why not start getting the word out? Hell, the inevitable shitstorm it's gonna start would be great publicity for stunters and stuntbums as a whole. quote:I've been in at least 5 road blocks by the CHP while living in LA and doing street rides. They're always chaos and do nothing more than to break some bikes, injure some people and get a few innocent kids in the back some bullshit tickets or in really hosed up cases, felony evading charges. 2 cops with a hundred plus guys behind me? I'd have slowed to see what the holdup was and then booked it. gently caress turning around. It's what happened anyways  The stupid thing was the turning around and going against traffic filtering between the cars. quote:Yes, that's how it works in more matured sports. Our sport is newer, more events like this happen each year, but street riding still is what it is. The fact that the sport will evolve and slowly illegal street riding will become a smaller portion of the big picture is pretty obvious. Sitting around rehashing that it's bad and has to change is just .. wasting your time. I just don't understand the immediate need to be negative. People only sit around and rehash that it's bad because there seems to be no sense of awareness portrayed in the community that it is bad. We hope that it gets through to the community because a lot of the poo poo you guys do is awesome, it's just that stuff like this doesn't just make stunters look bad, it makes all of us look bad. You guys need a stunter equivalent to "The Pace". Get a face and a manifesto on responsible stunting. "Work?" You mean stuntin' around the world?
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inolen posted:Maybe from the outside in it looks different, but it's really no different than me going to Quakecon to hang out with a bunch of quake nerds to 1v1 all day. When you gently caress up playing quake, there is a chance you or others could be hurt or killed, so that is a pretty apt metaphor. And just like that, down goes all the good will you've built for the stunting community here.
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Z3n posted:"Work?" You mean stuntin' around the world? Currently on the 9-5 grind, this summer was taxing and drained us of pretty much all of our savings Phat_Albert posted:When you gently caress up playing quake, there is a chance you or others could be hurt or killed, so that is a pretty apt metaphor. Forgive me, saying the situation as a whole is the same is bad, but the intents and desires are the same. Phat_Albert posted:And just like that, down goes all the good will you've built for the stunting community here. Perhaps in another 350 pages we can type friendly emoticons towards each other again. Edit: I suck at not being lured back and refreshing. inolen fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Sep 30, 2011 |
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inolen posted:Forgive me, saying the situation as a whole is the same is bad, but the intents and desires are the same. You could say the same about twisty rides in that it's just guys who want to get together and rip around. The big difference is there's a large movement in the community among the older, more experienced riders to attempt to keep it sane on the street, or at least limit it to less traveled, populated roads, if you're not going to the track, and to the track or racing if you want to really push the limits. Seems like the elder statesmen of the stunting scene aren't very outspoken about safe stunting. quote:Currently on the 9-5 grind, this summer was taxing and drained us of pretty much all of our savings Know that feeling...racing drained me of most of mine. Now I'm slowly rebuilding and gonna try my hand at customization.
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Z3n posted:You guys need a stunter equivalent to "The Pace". Get a face and a manifesto on responsible stunting. This is great. Z3n posted:gonna try my hand at customization. This is also great.
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Ola posted:This is great. gently caress, now I'm feeling guilted into updating my drat thread that I've been steadily ignoring for weeks.
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Phat_Albert posted:And just like that, down goes all the good will you've built for the stunting community here. Yes, Phat Albert, ruler of Cycle Asylum, has spoken. Inolen you must leave here in shame. quote="Z3n"] No one takes stunters seriously because you all act like a bunch of goddamn children with no understanding of what you are doing. Your sport will forever be marginalized as long as you don't talk out against the dangers and idiocy inherent on stunting on the streets...because soon enough, you guys are gonna get hosed HARD by the long arm the law because of your inability to regulate. We're already seeing it happen in FL, in CA, and it's gonna keep happening, and it's gonna gently caress the entire community if you guys don't learn to grow the gently caress up and act like adults. I enjoy a dangerous sport, I enjoy wheelies, I enjoy stoppies, I'm learning standups and will eventually move to circle wheelies. But I have no desire to be involved in the stunting community because it's filled with moronic assclowns who aren't willing to stand up for what's right to improve their own community. [/quote] You're being such a hypocrite right now. Name one thing they did in that video that hasn't been done by other motorcycle groups without you getting your panties in such a wad? I'll go for the worst thing in the video, the guy pulling wheelies into oncoming traffic. You're getting all pissy with that because its a stunter doing it but there's been more than a few supermoto videos of the same phenomenon posted and I didn't hear any protest from you or the other people getting all up in arms. Coredump fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Sep 30, 2011 |
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For once I actually agree with z3n if you're gonna do it just live with the fact that you're being a rear end in a top hat and a criminal. Trying to justify it makes it look like a bunch of entitled assholes. "there isn't a lot big enough for me and all my bros to chill in"
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HNasty posted:For once I actually agree with z3n if you're gonna do it just live with the fact that you're being a rear end in a top hat and a criminal. Trying to justify it makes it look like a bunch of entitled assholes. "there isn't a lot big enough for me and all my bros to chill in" It's not a "justification," it's just the reality of the situation. If stunters in America were harassed less in the lots and could more reliably meet up and ride there, I feel it would definitely start chipping away at people who participate in these events. Again, I'm not saying "oh poor persecuted stunters deserve the world because they're so cool," I'm just pointing out a little in this case can definitely go a long way. One cop telling you it's cool if you ride in x lot and he appreciates you not riding on the street will make most stunters an anti-street evangelist pretty fast. Here in France, tickets for doing wheelies are 22 euro (as opposed to the 500-2k in fines you can get in the US) with no points on your license and there is virtually zero harassment in the lots. It's hard to say it's a direct result of these laws, but it's interesting that with such lax laws, only a handful of French riders ride streets and most stunters frown on street riders here because, why do that and make a bad image of stunting when you can spend a perfectly safe and fun day with your friends riding in a lot? inolen fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Oct 1, 2011 |
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inolen posted:It's not a "justification," it's just the reality of the situation. It's not everyone else's responsibility to provide a place for you to pursue your hobby. You don't want fines, don't break the laws, if you break the laws don't blame everyone else, take your licks. Why don't stunters build their own lots instead of complaining when people don't want them practicing on their property. Skaters built skate parks.
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inolen posted:It's not a "justification," it's just the reality of the situation. See, that's the sort of attitude that I wish US stunters would embrace. Unfortunately, fines go up because idiots stunt on the street, and then that leads to crackdowns in the lots. It's sort of a chicken and an egg problem...the cops are waiting for the stunters to act responsibly to get more lax about poo poo, and the stunters aren't acting responsibly because the cops don't encourage it. I still think that the best way to handle it is to rent or build stunt sites. Coredump posted:You're being such a hypocrite right now. Name one thing they did in that video that hasn't been done by other motorcycle groups without you getting your panties in such a wad? I'll go for the worst thing in the video, the guy pulling wheelies into oncoming traffic. You're getting all pissy with that because its a stunter doing it but there's been more than a few supermoto videos of the same phenomenon posted and I didn't hear any protest from you or the other people getting all up in arms. Generally most people protest any sort of idiot behavior. Hell, sigtrap even came in here awhile back and said that any street racing bullshit would get you banned (ie, Jack the Smack's poo poo). Even then, his videos weren't that bad, just powerwheelies down public streets. Riding a standup through oncoming traffic is a loving deathwish, and I'm pretty sure if we had any videos of people pulling absolutely insane poo poo like that, then yeah, they're get bitched at too. The only sumo video I can think of where that happens is that old as hell french one. Or the greek possturvat shops one (not supermoto, but similar behavior). But everyone knows those guys aren't long for this world. And you can bet that when I've been in that situation, I've either called people on their bullshit if I thought it'd do a bit of good, or just never rode with them again if I thought it wouldn't. I like inolen. He's a good guy, he's got a good head on his shoulders, he's got a good site that puts out a lot of positive press on stunters doing their thing off the streets. He's done a lot of badass stuff, and his site tends to be devoid of the fistpumping idiocy that you find on a lot of other stunting sites...I just think that he could do a lot to help the stunting community by saying "Hey, guys, let's tone it down with the street stuff and try to get more space for stunting off public roads". Of course, he's free to tell me to go piss up a rope, and I wouldn't be offended if he did. I'd still go rock wheelies and read his site and poo poo. I just think that he's got a voice in the community that could really help towards getting stunting legitimized. I don't bring this poo poo up because I want to feel self righteous about "THOSE drat STUNTERS" or any poo poo like that. I just think that there's a positive change to be made here, and that maybe in some small way we can all work together to make a difference and rock sweet stand ups. Z3n fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Oct 1, 2011 |
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Well there's this KLR video of gangbangers wheelieing all over the place and I think the consensus on those dudes was that they own. But the KLR is too fat to count as a sumo, right.
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niethan posted:Well there's this KLR video of gangbangers wheelieing all over the place and I think the consensus on those dudes was that they own. But the KLR is too fat to count as a sumo, right. There's no laws when you're rocking wheelies on KLRs in the ghetto. Edit: I love it when inolen posts because the forums always get really entertaining, real fast
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