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closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005

Zeether posted:

I started nQuake and browsed some servers. The one server I could find that was populated wouldn't let me actually play for some reason and there were a bunch of people spectating. I have no idea why.

It's probably a 1v1 match and the server is set so that everybody past the third or so player is forced to be a spectator.

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Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

That Bondo's Super Duper Quake mod is off the chain. Feels like the Quake version of Aeons of Death in Invasion mode.

e: Okay, Darkplaces keeps crashing when I choose mods. What the hell?

Zeether fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Oct 4, 2011

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
To run Quake mods, create a shortcut to the source port .exe and add -game quakemod in the target line after the quotations wherein "quakemod" is the name of the folder containing the mod, which you should have extracted to your quake directory. Run mod with shortcut.

Also worth noting that Darkplaces can be a huge pain in the rear end with broken functions and features, bugs and crashes. The only benefit to using it is the extra eyecandy. Otherwise, nquake is the better port in every way.

treat fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Oct 4, 2011

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005

treat posted:

To run Quake mods, create a shortcut to the source port .exe and add -game quakemod in the target line after the quotations wherein "quakemod" is the name of the folder containing the mod, which you should have extracted to your quake directory. Run mod with shortcut.

Also worth noting that Darkplaces can be a huge pain in the rear end with broken functions and features, bugs and crashes. The only benefit to using it is the extra eyecandy. Otherwise, nquake is the better port in every way.

People over at QuakeOne have been raving over DirectQ, a Direct3D port that can work on a lot of systems and has good mod support. I haven't tried it out myself, but it sounds good if you want plain Quake 1 (not QuakeWorld, which is what nQuake is a port of).

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost

closeted republican posted:

People over at QuakeOne have been raving over DirectQ, a Direct3D port that can work on a lot of systems and has good mod support. I haven't tried it out myself, but it sounds good if you want plain Quake 1 (not QuakeWorld, which is what nQuake is a port of).

For single player Quake, I prefer Fitzquake. Easy to set up and not too many bells and whistles which is what I prefer. Seems asinine having 3 different source ports of every classic game for different purposes, but I spend more time organizing my Steam games than I spend playing them anyway.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

What's a good sourceport for mods then? Also, how do I make it so Quake on Steam isn't a horrible pixelated mess when I scale it up past 640x480?

Hussar
Oct 25, 2007

So I created a batch file to auto load Epic 2 and the Nazi pk3, like the ones in the video, when all the files were in one folder and everything worked great. Now that I made another batch file so that I can keep all my files organized it fails to load properly. Any clue what I'm dong wrong?

New batch: d:\games\doom\gzdoom\gzdoom.exe -iwad d:\games\doom\wads\doom2.wad -file d:\games\doom\epic2\epic2.wad -file d:\games\doom\nazi\ww-nazi.pk3

Old batch: gzdoom - iwad doom2.wad -file epic2.wad -file ww-nazis.pk3

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Finally decided to five the Marathon trilogy another shot and... It's actually pretty fun! Only problem is that it took about 2 hours to get the whole thing working properly - god knows why the Aleph One developers didn't just put a drat fov slider in the options or something.

Anyway, now I've got the trilogy installed and compressed into a single zip file (including all the HD texture packs etc.) I was thinking of uploading it for the benefit of people without hours to spare fiddling with settings. Does anyone know whether the GPL license permits distribution in this way? I did try having a look but unfortunately I don't speak lawyer :ohdear:

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


^^ The GPL basically just says "if you release a modified version of this software, you also need to release the modified source code so that other people can learn from your modifications and modify it in turn". If you're just using an off-the-shelf AlephOne.exe, simply linking to the A1 site should be sufficient.

And yeah, A1 as a project is really unpolished and feature-light. The install process is kind of messy, there's no 3d renderer still, you have to exit the game to adjust the options...I love A1 for letting me actually play Marathon, but when you compare it to something like gzDoom or Darkplaces, it's just sad.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
I played Quake 1 DM yesterday after years of not playing it, and man, I totally forgot how much it revolves around the Rocket Launcher. I can't imagine anyone playing it without the setting that makes weapons stay if someone picks them up, because otherwise it becomes a handful of people dominating the entire game with the RL while everyone else plinks each other to death with the Shotgun.

Still fun as hell, though.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




Im not into speed runs but this was really entertaining to watch and loving impressive, not only because its done in like 14 mins, but the fact that the guys used nightmare. Some levels completed in 7 seconds is loving amazing and in some others when completed you can see all the enemies moving around like crazy looking for that loving blurry human-being that got past them.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005

Guillermus posted:

Im not into speed runs but this was really entertaining to watch and loving impressive, not only because its done in like 14 mins, but the fact that the guys used nightmare. Some levels completed in 7 seconds is loving amazing and in some others when completed you can see all the enemies moving around like crazy looking for that loving blurry human-being that got past them.

The best speed runs are when they almost leave everyone alive because the surviving monsters will attack the camera that shows the level while you're looking at your statistics. I never knew cameras could be vivisected by Fiends.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Hussar posted:

So I created a batch file to auto load Epic 2 and the Nazi pk3, like the ones in the video, when all the files were in one folder and everything worked great. Now that I made another batch file so that I can keep all my files organized it fails to load properly. Any clue what I'm dong wrong?

New batch: d:\games\doom\gzdoom\gzdoom.exe -iwad d:\games\doom\wads\doom2.wad -file d:\games\doom\epic2\epic2.wad -file d:\games\doom\nazi\ww-nazi.pk3

Old batch: gzdoom - iwad doom2.wad -file epic2.wad -file ww-nazis.pk3
You should only need to use -file once.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


The Kins posted:

You should only need to use -file once.

You don't even need to use -file anymore.

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO
id's new shooter Rage has a shout-out to Wolfenstein 3D. Seeing the old school big huge blocks of colour versus the brown and grey of a 'modern' shooter looks way better than I thought it'd be. I'd totally play a shooter that mixed these styles.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
There's also a Doom one! And a Quake one!

Rage has a lot of little Id shoutouts since this year's Id's 20th birthday.

The Kins fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Oct 5, 2011

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

The funny/sad thing about the Doom/Wolfenstein rooms in Rage is that they're vastly more colourful than the environments they're hidden in, and the player gun model remains looking bleached and washed-out even when you're in them.

Also, for those having trouble running multiple Doom mods simultaneously, get Quickly Launchering GZDoom from the OP. It's super handy.

Myopic
Mar 27, 2005

It is only logical to bang one's head

Rather Dashing posted:

Catch the Chicken for Quake 2.

Please, make this happen. If not CtC then how about QPong? Ridiculous Q2 mods = best mods :allears:

beanbrew
Jan 3, 2011

the way is not in the sky

the way is in the heart

The Kins posted:

There's also a Doom one! And a Quake one!

Rage has a lot of little Id shoutouts since this year's Id's 20th birthday.

Watching those really highlights how slowly the player moves compared to the classic FPSs.

big fat retard
Nov 11, 2003
I AM AN IDIOT WITH A COMPULSIVE NEED TO TROLL EVERY THREAD I SEE!!!! PAY NO ATTENTION TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY!!!

Aaronicon posted:

id's new shooter Rage has a shout-out to Wolfenstein 3D. Seeing the old school big huge blocks of colour versus the brown and grey of a 'modern' shooter looks way better than I thought it'd be. I'd totally play a shooter that mixed these styles.

I'd love to see a "Build Engine All-Stars" game where you can play as Duke Nukem, Lo Wang, Caleb, or Leonard, playing through all the levels, with all of the weapons, enemies, power-ups, and features. Multi-player would be a blast. Sort of like a Build-only AEons of Death.

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Before I make an event posting for Half-Life mods, I'd like to throw out a list of mods I have game servers for, and the ones I don't. You guys help me decide what mods you want to play. I plan on playing for 2-3 hours, so we could have anywhere from 1-3 mods played depending on ones chosen.

I have found game servers for:

Sven-Coop
The Specialists
Wizard Wars
Natural Selection
Day of Defeat
Action Half-Life

Don't have game servers for, and we'd need hosting:

Vampire Slayer
Jailbreak
Frontline Force
Firearms
Science and Industry
Pirates, Vikings and Knights
The Opera
RocketCrowbar
Scientist Hunt



Am I missing anything? Pick two or three of these, goons! I will make an event posting as soon as we come to a decision.

Rev. Melchisedech Howler
Sep 5, 2006

You know. Leather.

Kazvall posted:

Before I make an event posting for Half-Life mods, I'd like to throw out a list of mods I have game servers for, and the ones I don't. You guys help me decide what mods you want to play. I plan on playing for 2-3 hours, so we could have anywhere from 1-3 mods played depending on ones chosen.

I have found game servers for:

Sven-Coop
The Specialists
Wizard Wars
Natural Selection
Day of Defeat
Action Half-Life

Don't have game servers for, and we'd need hosting:

Vampire Slayer
Jailbreak
Frontline Force
Firearms
Science and Industry
Pirates, Vikings and Knights
The Opera
RocketCrowbar
Scientist Hunt



Am I missing anything? Pick two or three of these, goons! I will make an event posting as soon as we come to a decision.
Sven, AHL and S&I. Depending on whether I have certain chores done I'll hopefully make a presence - my steam name is Muscle Horse, feel free to add me.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Kazvall posted:

Before I make an event posting for Half-Life mods, I'd like to throw out a list of mods I have game servers for, and the ones I don't. You guys help me decide what mods you want to play. I plan on playing for 2-3 hours, so we could have anywhere from 1-3 mods played depending on ones chosen.

I have found game servers for:

Sven-Coop
The Specialists
Wizard Wars
Natural Selection
Day of Defeat
Action Half-Life

Don't have game servers for, and we'd need hosting:

Vampire Slayer
Jailbreak
Frontline Force
Firearms
Science and Industry
Pirates, Vikings and Knights
The Opera
RocketCrowbar
Scientist Hunt



Am I missing anything? Pick two or three of these, goons! I will make an event posting as soon as we come to a decision.

You're missing HL2JKS guy.

I vote The Specialists, Sven-Coop, and Rocket Crowbar. Just noticed that in what I can only assume was a drunken haze I actually bought Half-Life from Steam at some point so that's cool.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

Sven, The Specialists, and HL2JKS if you can get hosting.

Is there a way to get Rocket Crowbar still? Planet Half-Life links to a defunct Geocities site and ModDB only lists the Source version.

Zeether fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Oct 5, 2011

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


^^ I'll see if I still have a copy lying around, but don't get your hopes up. E: nope, I've only got the Source version.

Kazvall posted:

Before I make an event posting for Half-Life mods, I'd like to throw out a list of mods I have game servers for, and the ones I don't. You guys help me decide what mods you want to play. I plan on playing for 2-3 hours, so we could have anywhere from 1-3 mods played depending on ones chosen.

Holy poo poo Wizard Wars! I'd completely forgotten about that mod. I'm not even sure that mod is what I'm remembering, but it sure sounds familiar.

E: just youtubed it and yeah, that's it. YOU HAVE THE ENEMY GRAIL!

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Wizard Wars download:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/wizard-wars/downloads/wizard-wars-127-full-install

There is also a newer version 1.3 done by another team, which adds some minor stuff, but I can't find any servers for that. If anyone is unfamiliar Wizard Wars is basically Team Fortress... with wizards. I will probably play this after we are done with the other mods, just for shits.



So it's quite obvious that Sven-Coop is on our list. Second is either TS or A-HL. We could even invade a TS-RP server, but we could also blow our brains out. Natural Selection or S&I would be great, just with a harder learning curve.

Anyways, starting off co-op, then completely slaughtering each other, we need something less intense to wind down with...




e: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197961412493 - if anyone needs to add me.

Kazvall fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 5, 2011

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Finally got around to compiling and uploading that Marathon Trilogy pack, including all the game files, the latest working build of Aleph One, a FOV fix, HD textures, an updated hud and some other small fixes. It's all set up and ready to go, so no need to spend hours getting the right plugins! Just extract and run AlephOne.exe for whatever game you want to play :v:

:siren:Get it here!:siren:

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Kazvall posted:

So it's quite obvious that Sven-Coop is on our list. Second is either TS or A-HL. We could even invade a TS-RP server, but we could also blow our brains out. Natural Selection or S&I would be great, just with a harder learning curve.

I have a confession to make: I've never played AHL.

Joined the group, although with thanksgiving this weekend I probably won't be around much in the immediate future.

REDjackeT
Sep 2, 2009

ToxicFrog posted:

I have a confession to make: I've never played AHL.

Joined the group, although with thanksgiving this weekend I probably won't be around much in the immediate future.

I played that quite a bit but I don't remember why I stopped. Always enjoyed messing about with the pistols.

Played S&I a few times as well and I remember it being fun.

I wish I still had my servers. Business needs to pick up so I can get some bandwidth again. Ah memories.

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost

Kazvall posted:

Anyways, starting off co-op, then completely slaughtering each other, we need something less intense to wind down with...

AH-L would be redundant, so I vote either Wizard Wars or Zombie Panic! ZP! would make a good wind down, and I'm sure there are still servers available for it. If somebody could host, we could do scientist hunt or the opera.

treat fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Oct 6, 2011

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

At godlike, UT99 bots are leaps and bounds more difficult than their UT2k3 and UT2k4 counterparts. I've got both UT99 and 2004 installed on my laptop but find myself going back to the former when I want an actual challenge out of the game (although Ballistic Weapons v2.5 keeps me coming back to 2004. One of the best mods ever, really.)
The "Loque" bot is really obnoxious. His accuracy stat is maxed out and, unlike basically every other bot, seems to barely be affected by difficulty. He especially has a tendency to chain-snipe you and do stupid amounts of damage if gets a minigun.

I've had many a "what the gently caress I just got sniped 2 times in mid-air, oh it's Loque" moment in practice games and half-filled servers.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

OneEightHundred posted:

The "Loque" bot is really obnoxious. His accuracy stat is maxed out and, unlike basically every other bot, seems to barely be affected by difficulty. He especially has a tendency to chain-snipe you and do stupid amounts of damage if gets a minigun.

I've had many a "what the gently caress I just got sniped 2 times in mid-air, oh it's Loque" moment in practice games and half-filled servers.

Wait, you mean the bots have individual personalities/configurations?

Well holy poo poo. I never knew that. And I played a looooot of UT99 botmatch back in the day.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005

Code Jockey posted:

Wait, you mean the bots have individual personalities/configurations?

Well holy poo poo. I never knew that. And I played a looooot of UT99 botmatch back in the day.

Go to the "bots" part of the "practice match" window and there's a button that says "Bot Config" which lets you do things like rename the bots, change almost everything about them, and give them different skins. They can also use custom models, so feel free to take a trip back to 1997 to 1999-era online gaming and give a bot or two Homer Simpson and Barney the Dinosaur models.

Bradster
Aug 14, 2004

Ryan Reynolds brings a brilliant new form of acting in every movie he does!

Kazvall posted:

Before I make an event posting for Half-Life mods, I'd like to throw out a list of mods I have game servers for, and the ones I don't. You guys help me decide what mods you want to play. I plan on playing for 2-3 hours, so we could have anywhere from 1-3 mods played depending on ones chosen.

I have found game servers for:

Sven-Coop
The Specialists
Wizard Wars
Natural Selection
Day of Defeat
Action Half-Life

Don't have game servers for, and we'd need hosting:

Vampire Slayer
Jailbreak
Frontline Force
Firearms
Science and Industry
Pirates, Vikings and Knights
The Opera
RocketCrowbar
Scientist Hunt



Am I missing anything? Pick two or three of these, goons! I will make an event posting as soon as we come to a decision.

I know a few dudes with rcon access to only S&I server left. (We play a few organized games every Sunday starting at 4pm EST.) Also you can call for map votes in-game so we could just take over that server to play in. It's 20 slots so that wouldn't be an issue. It's an extremely fun game and I would enjoy playing it with a few goons.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Mak0rz posted:

Trent Reznor did write the music for Quake, but it's all original and I'm pretty sure id owns the rights to it.


As an aside, if you have the original Quake CD - the music plays directly off the CD like a regular CD if you skip to track 2 and you can even rip the tracks to MP3. Thought that was really cool - the original discs for Dungeon Keeper (another great game I still play now and then) and the expansion pack did the same thing as well. Both Quake and Dungeon Keeper have excellent ambient-style soundtracks that really go well with their respective games so I enjoy listening to them from time to time.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
Yeah any game that came on CD and used Redbook audio allowed you to do that. Tons of great PS1 games had that feature, notably the excellent music from the Twisted Metal, Jet Moto, and Warhawk games.

Man I loved SingleTrak.

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

Just uploaded another Doom Done Different video. Another chunk of Brutal Doom + ZPack gameplay. I particularly like the second level there - Site X - short and sweet and incredibly bloody. Next time, I think I'll do Unloved, which is a really clever little campaign.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

closeted republican posted:

Go to the "bots" part of the "practice match" window and there's a button that says "Bot Config" which lets you do things like rename the bots, change almost everything about them, and give them different skins. They can also use custom models, so feel free to take a trip back to 1997 to 1999-era online gaming and give a bot or two Homer Simpson and Barney the Dinosaur models.

Oh I knew you could change physical appearance, I guess I just never realized that the bots had different AI "personalities". That's awesome.

Rev. Melchisedech Howler
Sep 5, 2006

You know. Leather.

Code Jockey posted:

Oh I knew you could change physical appearance, I guess I just never realized that the bots had different AI "personalities". That's awesome.

The feature crops up now and then in other games too. Its contemporary Quake 3 Arena had bots with different styles of play and the more recent Left 4 Dead games. Using L4D1 as an example, you'll notice that Zoe plays a more cautious game and favours the scoped weapons.

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Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Bradster posted:

I know a few dudes with rcon access to only S&I server left. (We play a few organized games every Sunday starting at 4pm EST.) Also you can call for map votes in-game so we could just take over that server to play in. It's 20 slots so that wouldn't be an issue. It's an extremely fun game and I would enjoy playing it with a few goons.

That's cool. I will probably make the event on Sunday. Maybe we can do a little S&I before we play sven?

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