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Mardragon
Mar 4, 2004
Cinderella boy... Out of nowhere...
Yam Slacker
Dean both rules and can get hosed. It's a drat shame his work ethic is non-existant, oh the possibilities...

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Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
Read this very interesting article on what it's like to compete at ADCC if you're not an A-lister. Considering the article is named "The disaster tournament", I'm sure you can imagine the contents.

It's fascinating reading.

http://zinganobjj.com/adcc-the-disaster-tournament/

Mardragon
Mar 4, 2004
Cinderella boy... Out of nowhere...
Yam Slacker

Bohemian Nights posted:

Read this very interesting article on what it's like to compete at ADCC if you're not an A-lister. Considering the article is named "The disaster tournament", I'm sure you can imagine the contents.

It's fascinating reading.

http://zinganobjj.com/adcc-the-disaster-tournament/

So wait, he went all that way, she made weight, went through all the hoops, and then he pulled her form the tournament? What a loving idiot. It sounds like on at least 3 occasions he took his ball and went home after making long trips. I've got no doubt that some of what he was saying was true but I'm sure much of it is exaggeration as well.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
I already posted about how crappy the mat setup was and how inconsistent they were when competitors went out of bounds. The whole thing is just amateur.

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011
it's almost like it's not a real sport

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Bohemian Nights posted:

Read this very interesting article on what it's like to compete at ADCC if you're not an A-lister. Considering the article is named "The disaster tournament", I'm sure you can imagine the contents.

It's fascinating reading.

http://zinganobjj.com/adcc-the-disaster-tournament/

I don't doubt that ADCC has a lot of unprofessional bullshit involved in the organizing, but I'm taking everything this dude says with a huge grain of salt because of this -

quote:

Well, not so fast. About 5 to 7 days prior to the tournament they
email us and told us that they would weight in everyone the day before the
tournament and ALSO before competition on both days (finals were on the 25th
and the first 2 matches on the 24th). This was a HUGE change in plans and it
meant she would now have to cut weight and make weight 3 times in 3 days and
not really be able to eat or drink much in order to keep the weight down.

The new weigh-in rules were up on the adcc site months ahead of time, we were discussing them in this thread as early as May. He's either completely full of poo poo or he's so stupid he didn't even bother to check the main adcc site or literally any grappling news site until a week ahead of time.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
Martial arts people aren't known to be too smart or too computer savvy, so it could be either or a combination of the two.

Regardless, the housing thing is hilariously bad, and the general favoritism of a-lister competitors is definitely not doing anyone any favours.
I mean, allowing one competitor to be a kilo overweight while choosing to hound another (who makes weight) throughout the entire day is just ridiculously unfair.

Opal
May 10, 2005

some by their splendor rival the colors of the painters, others the flame of burning sulphur or of fire quickened by oil.
how long are we going to let this fighters are dumb meme live

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
until they...aren't?

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

the periodic fable posted:

how long are we going to let this fighters are dumb meme live

I didn't even know this was a meme, but have you seen an(y) episode of the ultimate fighter

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
If "fighters are dumb" is a meme then so is gravity.

Mardragon
Mar 4, 2004
Cinderella boy... Out of nowhere...
Yam Slacker
And after the break here on MMA Live, we'll talk with renowned scholar Forrest Griffin about the President's new economic plan. And later, Professor Kimbo Slice will be in studio to discuss some of the newest developments from the Large Hadron Collider.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Mardragon posted:

And after the break here on MMA Live, we'll talk with renowned scholar Forrest Griffin about the President's new economic plan. And later, Professor Kimbo Slice will be in studio to discuss some of the newest developments from the Large Hadron Collider.

Replace the fighters with "Information Technology Specialist" or "Unemployed Graphic Designer" and it's the same, pretty much everyone is stupid, not just fighters

If you are a big enough fan of Gay Skinhead Fighting that you post and read about it frequently on the internet, you are probably approximately as dumb as the people who actually make money for being good at it

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

HATE MONDAYS posted:

you are probably approximately as dumb as the people who actually make money for being good at it

I would never dream of thinking anything else. This might also be how we know.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

the periodic fable posted:

how long are we going to let this fighters are dumb meme live

tuf.leprechaunconversation.flv

imtheism
May 7, 2004
z leprechaun king

fawker posted:

man, that floor REALLY did look slippery

My coach competed in ADCC 2007. He mentioned to me that he had no idea how slippery the mats were going to be. His theory is that they do it on purpose to keep the game more skewed towards bjj rather than wrestling (which I would buy). Said making any sort of good penetrating takedowns was hard as gently caress, and that if he ever competes in adcc again he is going to wear wrestling shoes.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

imtheism posted:

My coach competed in ADCC 2007. He mentioned to me that he had no idea how slippery the mats were going to be. His theory is that they do it on purpose to keep the game more skewed towards bjj rather than wrestling (which I would buy). Said making any sort of good penetrating takedowns was hard as gently caress, and that if he ever competes in adcc again he is going to wear wrestling shoes.

I cannot imagine how awful it would be to wear wrestling shoes if you were in the same division as Palhares.

Opal
May 10, 2005

some by their splendor rival the colors of the painters, others the flame of burning sulphur or of fire quickened by oil.
thanks for the help~

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

imtheism posted:

My coach competed in ADCC 2007. He mentioned to me that he had no idea how slippery the mats were going to be. His theory is that they do it on purpose to keep the game more skewed towards bjj rather than wrestling (which I would buy).

Yes, the tournament that gives you penalties for pulling guard is definitely trying to make the game more skewed towards bjj and away from wrestling.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009

fatherdog posted:

Yes, the tournament that gives you penalties for pulling guard is definitely trying to make the game more skewed towards bjj and away from wrestling.

Hanlon's Razor applies to fighting in almost all areas.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Also, the man who was complaining the most about the slippery mat was the notorious wrestler Renzo Gracie.

widunder
May 2, 2002
Not sure if they will be releasing anything longer and official but I really like the HD clips from some of the matches at this year's ADCC that are turning up in the interviews

Gunnar Nelson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGLrPHVkpw&feature=related

Ryan Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eskluB5Yxo&feature=related

Jeff Glover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-GATUqxLA&feature=related

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Yeah I'd say this image is a good indication that the mats were kinda slippery.



(That's Werdum taking the tumble against Cyborg)

fawker
Feb 1, 2008

ARMBAR!
drat its like a slip-n-slide
Did they hose down the entire floor before the tournament?

dokomoy
May 21, 2004
Apparently the arena they used is a hockey arena and they put the flooring and mats on top of the ice.

Dante
Feb 8, 2003

The floor is actually wood, not concrete, it's just painted metal grey. Still the red area was way too small, there were at least a dozen matches that ended up on the floor at some point.

hopper2k
Jan 22, 2007
I made weight for Grapplers Quest tonight at the UFC Fan Expo in Houston. I'm pumped. I'll be doing nogi intermediate tomorrow and gi blue belt Saturday, my weight class only. I think they may have broken a record for the number of participants, or the number of pre-registration. I'll try to keep a report.

TwistedNails
Dec 1, 2008

hopper2k posted:

I made weight for Grapplers Quest tonight at the UFC Fan Expo in Houston. I'm pumped. I'll be doing nogi intermediate tomorrow and gi blue belt Saturday, my weight class only. I think they may have broken a record for the number of participants, or the number of pre-registration. I'll try to keep a report.

Goodluck man!

hopper2k
Jan 22, 2007

TwistedNails posted:

Goodluck man!

Thanks! I think this is going to be an epic weekend for sure. My first UFC live event, and first Grapplers Quest event. I can only hope the tournament isn't too delayed, but what tournament isn't? I noticed they have 12 mats, so that should keep everything moving pretty fast.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

hopper2k posted:

I noticed they have 12 mats, so that should keep everything moving pretty fast.


Watch as 11 of those go mysteriously unused while everyone waits for the last few fights of a division to close up.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Bohemian Nights posted:

Watch as 11 of those go mysteriously unused while everyone waits for the last few fights of a division to close up.

quote for truth.

Dante
Feb 8, 2003

SimonNotGarfunkel posted:

Yeah Palhares' behaviour was just bizarre.

When he went to hug his opponent or their corner men, he nearly launched them half way across the arena.

It was pretty funny until he did it to Lovato after he'd nearly ripped off his leg. The man did not look happy.

The funniest thing there was pretending he was going to happyslap Lovato before hugging him.

Also he had enough sense to go around molesting corner men, but only handshaking the judges. Pretty much everyone including Avellan's teammates thinks Palhares is legitimately not all there mentally though.

Galvao understands the slap mentality though

Dante fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Oct 7, 2011

AZCollins
Feb 4, 2004

Meanderthal
Galvao looked gigantic.

mobn
May 23, 2005

by Ozmaugh
What was the deal with Monson greasing? He's always been one of my favorite fighters (I know that's totally inexplicable), and it's depressing to think he'd resort to that to compete. Has he or any of the officials made a statement yet?

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

mobn posted:

What was the deal with Monson greasing? He's always been one of my favorite fighters (I know that's totally inexplicable), and it's depressing to think he'd resort to that to compete. Has he or any of the officials made a statement yet?

The story from him is that he'd put ointment on his injured elbow, then put a brace over the elbow, and when he started to sweat the ointment ran down his arm.

Since his arm was (I believe) injured from his match with Davi Ramos at Grappler's Quest, that means Davi managed to beat Monson at ADCC despite not even being in the tournament.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Whole bunch of ADCC gif's here, including Palhares loving up a bunch of guys' knees.

He also did this though

SimonNotGarfunkel
Jan 28, 2011
I don't think a leg is meant to bend this way.

hopper2k
Jan 22, 2007
Ok, so I ended up arriving at the Expo yesterday close to 12:30, since my division wasn't set to start until 1:30, and turns out, my division was already ending. They apparently started super early and were moving super fast (who knew), so I got DQ'd. Luckily, they were able to put me in the absolute division, where I won my first match by RNC, second by kimura, and then I lost the third round by points, like 20-0. Today is gi and I plan on getting there super early so I don't miss out on my weight class again.

hopper2k
Jan 22, 2007
Part 2 to my story. So I ended up getting 3rd in gi, and got my first submission victory in the gi as a blue belt, a bow and arrow choke. Upset at myself because I lost my semi final by one point, and I was up in the final minute. That's the second time that has happened to me. Can't dwell on the negative though, I had an awesome time at the fan expo and UFC event itself.

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TwistedNails
Dec 1, 2008

Nice work, congrats on getting 3rd.

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