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While it may not be action movie-y, having a dogfight ins pace with no actual sound would be pretty drat cool to me. Provided, y'know, that it actually used physics ad stuff. Or atleast what qualified for physics, y'know what I mean. Here's a question I just thought of: If you have to a plot a course through hyperspace so you don't accidentally smash into a star or something, how come ships don't worry about smashing into each other?
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Space is real huge. As for a physics appropriate dogfight, it would probably be really boring given how small most spaceships are. There's a good description of one in Larry Niven's "Protector." Very gripping. Because it's written in a few pages, which cover four days.
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Oct 13, 2011 12:44
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Saul Goode posted:Wait a minute... Darth's Star Destroyer is called the Exec-utor? Hell, I've been saying "Twigh-lek" for years, but "The Old Republic" says it's "Twee-lek."
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Oct 13, 2011 14:27
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Saul Goode posted:Wait a minute... Darth's Star Destroyer is called the Exec-utor? The real question is why it was thought that the person who carries out somebody's will was a scary name for a star destroyer. As opposed to, like, Executioner.
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Oct 13, 2011 14:32
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CobiWann posted:Hell, I've been saying "Twigh-lek" for years, but "The Old Republic" says it's "Twee-lek."
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Oct 13, 2011 14:47
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qntm posted:The real question is why it was thought that the person who carries out somebody's will was a scary name for a star destroyer. As opposed to, like, Executioner. "Executor" doesn't just mean someone who carries out a will, it means someone who carries out a task. The Executor is the Ship That Gets poo poo Done. Or, it could be a play on words, in that it carries out the "Empire's Will". Also they probably had a "space shuttle Enterprise" kind of deal where the name "Executioner" was so good they used it on one of their first ships, which then became obsolete and went unused, and now they can't use the name on anything else.
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Oct 13, 2011 15:34
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That's crazy, you always reuse ship names, otherwise you would run out far too quickly and end up naming your ships things like 'The Mostly Imperturbable'. Names like the Indefatigable, Revenge and Warspite have been reused, and there have been dozens of Enterprise ships as well. It's pretty rare to retire a name entirely, unless maybe it's like the Constitution and is a historic ship still technically in service. But yea, Executor makes sense because it is Vader's personal ship, and basically his entire purpose is to carry out the Emperor's will (as in, his commands, not his last will and testament). When the Executor turns up, you know its because the head honcho wants something done and sent his right hand to see to it. Of course, because that's Vader, it's probable that someone is going to get killed along the way.
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Oct 13, 2011 15:47
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Plus, after a thousand years, you'd have the stupidest ship names ever because even the stupid ones would have been retired centuries ago... Speaking of ages: I was doing a Star Wars marathon with my linguist buddies the other day, and we came up with a great explanation for Yodas strange word order: He's like 900 years old, and during his lifetime, the language must have changed considerably. So basically, Yoda is just speaking with "Old Basic" syntax, but using modern words (Because he wants people to understand him?)
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Oct 13, 2011 16:10
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BonHair posted:Plus, after a thousand years, you'd have the stupidest ship names ever because even the stupid ones would have been retired centuries ago... Works for me. Add it to wookipedia.
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Oct 13, 2011 16:18
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BonHair posted:Speaking of ages: I was doing a Star Wars marathon with my linguist buddies the other day, and we came up with a great explanation for Yodas strange word order: He's like 900 years old, and during his lifetime, the language must have changed considerably. So basically, Yoda is just speaking with "Old Basic" syntax, but using modern words (Because he wants people to understand him?) Alternate theory: Dude's 900 years old, he's probably going senile.
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Oct 13, 2011 16:22
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BonHair posted:Plus, after a thousand years, you'd have the stupidest ship names ever because even the stupid ones would have been retired centuries ago... I like this, especially as io9 recently had an article on how the very earliest languages were probably organized along the lines of Yoda-speech. http://io9.com/5848528/what-did-the-worlds-first-language-sound-like
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Oct 13, 2011 16:25
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BonHair posted:Plus, after a thousand years, you'd have the stupidest ship names ever because even the stupid ones would have been retired centuries ago... This is a hilarious idea. They'd end up with pedigree dog names. Kuat Shipyard's Executor Afternoon Delight III.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:09
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I watched ESB on blu-ray last night and suddenly I'm ok with all the changes. He largely left ESB alone and watching the Battle of Hoth with the new soundtrack mix is just loving perfect.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:14
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If I remember correctly, Yoda's weird speech pattern was because he was meant to embody the old archtype of the odd sage who hid in the mountains, often in Tibet, for example. Since this isn't actually Asia they had to come up with a new odd speech pattern. I always assumed it was a carryover from his race's original language, but because there's only one other of them apparently, he never really has a reason to use it.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:17
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RagnarokAngel posted:I always assumed it was a carryover from his race's original language, but because there's only one other of them apparently, he never really has a reason to use it. What's this "just one other" about? Do I... do I even want to know 
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Oct 13, 2011 18:27
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It's nothing special. Yaddle, a member on the Jedi council, is a member of Yoda's race. Other than her I'm PRETTY sure no one else of his race has ever made an appearance in any Star Wars media because Lucas has put a pretty tight leash on Yoda discussion in the EU. You're not allowed to name the race, nor where they came from. Very few media delves into his past. Personally I think it's one of the few things he did right, although it raises a lot of questions, it keeps Yoda's mystique. Since he lost his dignity, his mystique is all he has left.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:33
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He Who Must Not Be Racially Identified.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:41
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RagnarokAngel posted:It's nothing special. Yaddle, a member on the Jedi council, is a member of Yoda's race. Other than her I'm PRETTY sure no one else of his race has ever made an appearance in any Star Wars media because Lucas has put a pretty tight leash on Yoda discussion in the EU. You're not allowed to name the race, nor where they came from. Very few media delves into his past. Personally I think it's one of the few things he did right, although it raises a lot of questions, it keeps Yoda's mystique. Since he lost his dignity, his mystique is all he has left. There was a guy in one of the Knights of the Old Republic games who was the same race as Yoda. He didn't have any crazy speech patterns that I remember, but he was voiced by Ed Asner, so that's awesome.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:51
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There was a Yoda dude in KOTOR, I remember that much. He doesn't make an appearance for KOTOR II though. Also why are Jedi always made generals and commanding officers? Are they actually trained in any sort of tactics? EDIT: Goddamnit, beaten.
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Oct 13, 2011 18:54
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Ed Asner was the grumpy old Human jedi master on the council. The Yoda dude in KOTORI was not voiced by him. Fun Fact: That Yoda character does make an appearance in KOTORII, albeit a tiny one. On arriving on Dantooine, there's a protocol droid you meet at the spaceport who if you hack, will reveal an old recording with that Yoda guy.
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Oct 13, 2011 19:12
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Thanks for the info on Yoda, I'm happy that for once my brain didn't melt from hearing things from the EU.SpookyLizard posted:Also why are Jedi always made generals and commanding officers? Are they actually trained in any sort of tactics? I was always partial to the theory that the people appointing Jedi as generals did so to counteract the Jedi's tendencies to fling themselves at their opponents like idiots and instead lead their armies from behind the front lines. The Jedi wouldn't have any of that.
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Oct 13, 2011 19:14
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SpookyLizard posted:There was a Yoda dude in KOTOR, I remember that much. He doesn't make an appearance for KOTOR II though. Forgot him, was only thinking later Eras. But yeah point is, there's not a heck of a lot of them.
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Oct 13, 2011 19:16
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Regarding that Darth Maul thing, there was actually a guy who survived being cut in half and now runs a shop called Half-Man Half-Price on small robot legs. But there is also some pretty horrible video around of a guy who didn't survive it (for long). I only know this from reading threads when they revealed Maul was still alive last year.
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Oct 13, 2011 21:21
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There's also a "Yoda Species" guy in SWTOR.
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Oct 13, 2011 21:39
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Yoda was created by the Force.
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Oct 13, 2011 22:28
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Lucas is saving Yodas people for Episode VII: How The Force Got Its Groove Back.
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Pope Mobile posted:There's also a "Yoda Species" guy in SWTOR. I think it' the same guy in the super holocrons TOR also has an early questline for Jedi that involves fighting droids programmed with the newest Sith tactics to become certified to lead Republic troops. And in the background of the PT you can see a ton of people in the Jedi Temple. I always assumed that for every Obi Wan, Kit Fisto, or Plo Koon you had about a hundred Jedi that weren't hardass warrior types and instead were actually trying to solve things with diplomacy or spent their time researching/maintaining the archives.
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Oct 14, 2011 00:02
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Razorwired posted:I think it' the same guy in the super holocrons My favorite thing about the PT-era EU is that it established that all failed Jedi candidates get sent into exile to be space farmers. Not even joking. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Agricorps
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Oct 14, 2011 00:21
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BonHair posted:Plus, after a thousand years, you'd have the stupidest ship names ever because even the stupid ones would have been retired centuries ago... If memory serves, Yoda mostly drops that syntax (along with the persistent giggles) after revealing his identity to Luke. It struck me as part of the character he was playing to test Luke. Of course, the PT is stupid and goes back to using it constantly and awkwardly.
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Oct 14, 2011 01:40
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Oh Christ no.
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Oct 14, 2011 01:48
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SpookyLizard posted:Also why are Jedi always made generals and commanding officers? Are they actually trained in any sort of tactics? They're not, really. I vaguely recall reading something somewhere about how a lot of jedi got a lot of clones killed because they were tactically retarded. But, at least at the start of the war, the Republic really had no military, and thus no commanding officers, to speak of.
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Oct 14, 2011 01:54
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm more pissed that I have to wait 5 years to see a good movie in 3D (It's Empire)
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Oct 14, 2011 01:55
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Emperors black Bones! Why do I have children, and why do they like the PT better. Nobody tell them. Please.
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Oct 14, 2011 01:56
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yoda looks both bored and irritated, like he is at the monthly Jedi HR meeting or something.
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Oct 14, 2011 01:56
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It's cool how Anakin doesn't even appear on the poster beyond supposedly piloting that pod racer. That's a cool thing. In my opinion.
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Oct 14, 2011 02:01
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Van Dis posted:It's cool how Anakin doesn't even appear on the poster beyond supposedly piloting that pod racer. That's a cool thing. In my opinion. Isn't that a little ironic since Lucas keeps telling us that the entire saga (SIX MOVIES ONE STORY THERE ARE NO TRILOGIES ONLY THE SAGA) is just the story of Anakin Skywalker?
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Oct 14, 2011 02:08
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Derek Dominoe posted:If memory serves, Yoda mostly drops that syntax (along with the persistent giggles) after revealing his identity to Luke. It struck me as part of the character he was playing to test Luke. Of course, the PT is stupid and goes back to using it constantly and awkwardly. Yoda posted:Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless. also Yoda posted:Decide you must, how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could; but you would destroy all for which they have fought, and suffered. RE: the poster, at least Jar Jar isn't on it.
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thrawn527 posted:I played it when it first came out in 1997. And 14 year old me thought it sucked. Hard. Gameplay was fun, don't get me wrong, but the cut scenes were truly terrible, and enough for me to not have many good memories of the game. Powered Descent posted:Solar sails have to be freaking GIGANTIC to do much of anything. The ridiculous little thing on Dooku's ship is even sillier than TIE fighters being powered by their "solar panels."
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Casimir Radon posted:Whatever, I like them. For FMV it's pretty goddamn wonderful. Well okay in star wars they probably figured out how to harness dark energy in their solar sails. Somehow. 
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