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The Walrus posted:I just finished Bag of Bones and don't understand something. So Presumably the reason Devore wanted Kyra so badly was so he could take her off the TR and away from Sara's vengeful spirit. But then why does Rogette still try to kill Kyra even after Sara's influence has been negated If you're talking about the part on the bridge(?) Sara was controlling Rogette at that point and wanted everything finished. Mike doesn't really lay Sara to rest, he just frees her (I think) allowing The Outsider to take over. Maybe I'm very wrong though bcause it's been ages since I've read the book. Oh, and speaking of Bag of Bones, remember when Mike and Kyra have that interwoven dream of the fair? On the way back they pass a room and hear someone say, "The President is okay, that's not his blood, it's his wife," or something. It's never explained but with how King loves interlocking his novels maybe it's a little foreshadowing to his time-travel/save Kennedy book? hosed if I know at this stage, I'm going back to the start and reading Carrie and then the rest in published order.
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I don't know why people love Wizard and Glass so much. When I bought it the saleslady couldn't shut up about how it was her favorite in the series. It absolutely bored me to tears and ultimately killed any interest I had in the Dark Tower series (I read Wolves of the Calla, but never got around to finishing the series. I've since spoiled it for myself). Roland's backstory as detailed briefly in flashback in one of the earlier books sounded completely badass and awesome, and the world he grew up in even more so. So instead of that, we get to read some completely uneventful pseudo-western with a bland girl and a lot of weird child molestation/talk about Roland banging her interspersed throughout for good measure. I couldn't bring myself to care even a little bit about the book's events, after spending the first three books completely enraptured by the story. I also got tired of King about the same time that I realized the guy has some serious sexual hangups/problems. It's almost impossible for me to recommend King books to friends without feeling obligated to explain that there's inevitably at least one incredibly awkward, extremely long, and grotesquely detailed sex scene, often including child abuse of some kind, and that it contributes essentially nothing to the plot each time. Something about the way King obsessively includes these bizarre sexual encounters is extremely off-putting to me and I find them disturbing to read through. The Library Policeman was the worst thing I have ever read in my entire life and I can't fathom how such a terrible, terrible idea made it all the way into a finished product. e: The Stand was still awesome though. mareep fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Oct 12, 2011 |
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Eh, it could be due to me not having read everything King has written yet, but I haven't run across anything that approaches the  inducing hosed-up poo poo I've read in some of the books Anne Rice has written, when it comes to the sex portions.All the "Come-come-commala" stuff in Wolves of the Calla got old in a hurry, though. Yeah, we get it, it's a song about loving along with a song about planting crops. What was Roland's starting stance when he did his Commala dance supposed to be a reference to, by the way? I feel like I should recognize the description, but can't place it (arms crossed over chest, palms of hands flat on either side of his face). Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Oct 12, 2011 |
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Oct 12, 2011 11:41
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I'm quite miffed by S.King lately, I used to love his books some 10+ years ago and had such a passion for his work but since then I've read book after book just filled even bloated with 400 pages of nothingness. In that I mean scene/area/character building that's just completely wasted. I think the last one I tried to read was "the dome"(or something similar) lasted about 200 pages and haven't touched it since.(which for me is a travesty as I've never done that before with any book no matter how bad)
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I saw an interview with King where he got asked "what books of yours do you think will stand the test of time?" And of course he answered "the 'S' books" (i.e., "Salem's Lot", "The Shining" and "The Stand"). Which was ironic since he pretty much says in "On Writing" that it depresses him when people name one of those three as their favorite book of his, because he wonders what it says about him as a writer that people think his best work is at least two or three decades behind him. So at least he's aware that a lot of what he's done over the last 10 years or so hasn't really been all that great. 
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On the commala thing in 'Wolves of the Calla' - if you know anything about folk music and folk dance you will realize that planting crops and getting laid are always entwined in the least subtle single-entendre ever. 'The Mist' is loving awesome and the movie was by far the best adaptation of a King story to film until the last five minutes when it unzipped and pissed all over one of the best ambiguous endings I have ever read.
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Mad Hamish posted:On the commala thing in 'Wolves of the Calla' - if you know anything about folk music and folk dance you will realize that planting crops and getting laid are always entwined in the least subtle single-entendre ever. Keep in mind, too, that King says he wishes he'd thought of that ending when he originally wrote it.
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Grandpa Pap posted:Keep in mind, too, that King says he wishes he'd thought of that ending when he originally wrote it.
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Grandpa Pap posted:I saw an interview with King where he got asked "what books of yours do you think will stand the test of time?" And of course he answered "the 'S' books" (i.e., "Salem's Lot", "The Shining" and "The Stand"). Which was ironic since he pretty much says in "On Writing" that it depresses him when people name one of those three as their favorite book of his, because he wonders what it says about him as a writer that people think his best work is at least two or three decades behind him. Well it makes sense for him to name those as being most likely to stand the test of time, because they already have.
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Oct 13, 2011 12:53
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Rauri posted:Hopefully he was just being gracious to whoever adapted it. Kinda doubtful, though. Probably not, as it was adapted by Frank Darabont (who did "The Green Mile" and "Shawshank Redemption" before it).
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Mad Hamish posted:On the commala thing in 'Wolves of the Calla' - if you know anything about folk music and folk dance you will realize that planting crops and getting laid are always entwined in the least subtle single-entendre ever. Different mediums. That kind of ending works well in the short story, but I felt the movie's worked for the movie. Darabont did it because he didn't want any cheap sequels continuing the story at all, so he completely closed off those characters' arc.
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Grandpa Pap posted:So at least he's aware that a lot of what he's done over the last 10 years or so hasn't really been all that great. I can't explain why, but I honestly believe that Duma Key is my third favorite book from him (1st and 2nd being Salem's Lot and It) I dunno if I could read Dome again though. I liked it at the time, but...
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Mad Hamish posted:'The Mist' is loving awesome and the movie was by far the best adaptation of a King story to film until the last five minutes when it unzipped and pissed all over one of the best ambiguous endings I have ever read. You think The Mist is better than The Shawshank Redemption? At least The Shawshank Redemption has a good ending.
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I prefer Mist to Shawshank on the page but Id much rather watch Shawshank than Mist.
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There's a Goodreads list of the best Stephen King books, voted by over 700 people, and I think it's a pretty good list. Top ten: 1. The Stand 2. It 3. The Shining 4. 'Salem's Lot 5. Misery 6. Pet Sematary 7. The Gunslinger 8. Carrie 9. The Green Mile 10. The Shawshank Redemption (I guess you could vote for novellas too) http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/309.Best_of_Stephen_King I need to read more Stephen King. I've only read three of those.
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I haven't read The Green Mile yet, which actually should be kinda interesting. It's the only time where I'm going to read a Stephen King-book AFTER seeing the movie. I wonder what I'll think of it; I've always thought the book has been superior.
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Hedrigall posted:There's a Goodreads list of the best Stephen King books, voted by over 700 people, and I think it's a pretty good list. Top ten: Even if you couldn't Different Seasons should be on that list of his best books.
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brylcreem posted:I haven't read The Green Mile yet, which actually should be kinda interesting. The book is a fair bit darker in places, especially the ending (not a specific spoiler, but still, you said you haven't read it).
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That said, The Green Mile is so close to the movie that it's almost redundant. One of the few almost 1-1 translations of his stuff.
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I just finished It for the first time. I'd always wanted to read it since high school and finally bit the bullet and picked up a copy. First 300 pages: "Alright this is pretty good." Next 734 pages: "Goddamn this is awesome, gotta keep reading." Pages 1035-1041:  Over all it's awesome except for THOSE pages.
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Squid Hat posted:I just finished It for the first time. I'd always wanted to read it since high school and finally bit the bullet and picked up a copy.
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Squid Hat posted:I just finished It for the first time. I'd always wanted to read it since high school and finally bit the bullet and picked up a copy. I hated the first 300 pages. Then again, it was my first real introduction to Stephen King and I didn't realise just how long he can take to set-up a story.
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I swear this thread can barely go a page without referring to that scene in IT Or the ending to the Mist movie for that matter
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I've never read the book version of Cujo so I don't know how it compares to the movie, but did anyone else find the movie boring as hell?
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juliuspringle posted:I've never read the book version of Cujo so I don't know how it compares to the movie, but did anyone else find the movie boring as hell? I thought it was ok, but I saw it 12 years ago or so. It's a movie about two people trapped in a car; I expected something somewhat slow and claustrophobic.
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Darko posted:I thought it was ok, but I saw it 12 years ago or so. I thought it was about a dog that gets rabies and starts loving poo poo up. I wasn't expecting the whole oh look they are still in the car thing.
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juliuspringle posted:I thought it was about a dog that gets rabies and starts loving poo poo up. I wasn't expecting the whole oh look they are still in the car thing. I couldn't watch it past when they first have Cujo jumping all over the car barking at them due to that loving scream that kid kept doing (my dad was feeling the same way, because at one point he said "My god, shut the gently caress up!" and we decided to stop the movie).
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juliuspringle posted:I've never read the book version of Cujo so I don't know how it compares to the movie, but did anyone else find the movie boring as hell? I found both boring as hell. I remember reading Cujo in the car when I was young and thinking it was kinda dull, and the movie was worse. I don't have a problem with the idea presented but both executions were just lacking.
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Zachack posted:I found both boring as hell. I remember reading Cujo in the car when I was young and thinking it was kinda dull, and the movie was worse. I don't have a problem with the idea presented but both executions were just lacking. Cujo is, according to King, a book he remembers nothing about writing because he did it all in a prolonged blacked out state. I suspect that's why it's not really that good.
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trandorian posted:Cujo is, according to King, a book he remembers nothing about writing because he did it all in a prolonged blacked out state. I suspect that's why it's not really that good. So apparently the sweet spot is somewhere between not high at all and blacked the gently caress out.
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juliuspringle posted:So apparently the sweet spot is somewhere between not high at all and blacked the gently caress out. He was only blacked out for half of Tommyknockers, how does that rate?
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Room 1408: I read once at three in the morning and it creeped me out more than anything I'd read in ages. Not sure if it was the time of day, the lack of sleep I'd had in the last 72 hours, the horrendous food I'd eaten earlier or what... but that phone shouting something like "SIX! This is SIX!" freaked me out way too hard. Haven't seen the movie, don't want to. I still think, alongside Neil Gaiman, that Stephen King writes the best short stories these days. But I'll never forgive the git for "The Dome."
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trandorian posted:He was only blacked out for half of Tommyknockers, how does that rate? Depends, was he blacked out when he wrote the vagina tentacles scene?
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FatmanSA posted:Room 1408: I read once at three in the morning and it creeped me out more than anything I'd read in ages. Not sure if it was the time of day, the lack of sleep I'd had in the last 72 hours, the horrendous food I'd eaten earlier or what... but that phone shouting something like "SIX! This is SIX!" freaked me out way too hard. The 1408 movie took out all the creepy and insane otherworldly things and more or less just left boring ghost stuff. 
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I'm about two thirds into The Shining now and man it's awesome I just got to where they hear the elevator and it's haunted by old guests having a party. Reading into Jack and the Overlook as King vs his alcoholic demons sure is something.
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FatmanSA posted:Room 1408: I read once at three in the morning and it creeped me out more than anything I'd read in ages. Not sure if it was the time of day, the lack of sleep I'd had in the last 72 hours, the horrendous food I'd eaten earlier or what... but that phone shouting something like "SIX! This is SIX!" freaked me out way too hard. I think 1408 is the only writing from King that has ever legitimately freaked me out. That phone scene still sticks with me as something really really hosed up, as does the ending.
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Darko posted:That said, The Green Mile is so close to the movie that it's almost redundant. One of the few almost 1-1 translations of his stuff.
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http://www.liljas-library.com/article.php?id=2645 The Stand is going to be a movie, Baffleck is directing.
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