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Had an interesting commute into work today...got pulled over for drag racing with some idiot in a truck. Merging onto the interstate, make my way over to the left lane to get around people that can't merge in the other two. rear end in a top hat in the truck decides that looks like a good idea so he flys over to the left lane and onto my rear end, right in front of a cop. Long story short after 3 attempts the truck figured out we were both being pulled over and stopped. Once the officer realized we weren't racing and the guy in the truck was just an idiot we were let go. Made for a fun conversation, mostly talking about how stupid people drive and talking about what motorcycles we ride. Heck of a way to start the morning.
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Hey guys I got another question for you all. Where can I find parts for the old 250cc I4 engines Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha used to put in their bikes in the 80s and 90s? I know they are pretty rare in the US but don't need the whole bike, just the engines (in fact only from the cylinders and up). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Oct 14, 2011 15:10
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eBay from Australia. We're probably the biggest market for them outside of Japan.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:eBay from Australia. We're probably the biggest market for them outside of Japan. After a bit of searching I found that Ebay Australia doesn't have any of the engines. Edit: Oh god there are two question threads? Should I post my question in the other as well? rcman50166 fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 14, 2011 |
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Oct 14, 2011 15:55
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this one is "Motorcycle Discussion Thread I: Less questions and more chatting" so it's more for chatting, and less for questions.
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Oct 14, 2011 16:01
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rcman50166 posted:After a bit of searching I found that Ebay Australia doesn't have any of the engines. Might have to try eBay Japan then. e: http://www.motorcyclewreckers.com/honda/1989/honda_cbr250_mc19_1989_h424.htm e2: They've got quite a few CBRs http://www.motorcyclewreckers.com/bikes_honda.htm 2ndclasscitizen fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Oct 14, 2011 |
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Oct 14, 2011 16:04
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rcman50166 posted:Hey guys I got another question for you all. Where can I find parts for the old 250cc I4 engines Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha used to put in their bikes in the 80s and 90s? I know they are pretty rare in the US but don't need the whole bike, just the engines (in fact only from the cylinders and up). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. If this is for the Formula stuff, for the love of god, don't do it.
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Oct 14, 2011 18:21
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Z3n posted:If this is for the Formula stuff, for the love of god, don't do it. Well I can't say that it isn't for it. Yea I know it's probably a bad idea, but at this point I'm not building a first place car. There are too many teams with too much money that would easily outdo me. If I wanted a first place car, I would use a single cylinder engine and a ton of carbon fiber. Plus what I want to do is cooler anyways. It might look something like this If it will make you feel better, I am designing the car to use different engines if it fails.
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Oct 14, 2011 18:35
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rcman50166 posted:Well I can't say that it isn't for it. Yea I know it's probably a bad idea, but at this point I'm not building a first place car. There are too many teams with too much money that would easily outdo me. If I wanted a first place car, I would use a single cylinder engine and a ton of carbon fiber. Plus what I want to do is cooler anyways. It might look something like this It's not really that...it's just that you're looking at an engine with no real technical support available in the US. If you use something more traditional, you're gonna have loads of resource available for what sort of tuning you want to shoot for, overcoming the issues that dropping one in a car frame is going to have, etc. It's not a matter of getting first place or not, it's a matter of minimizing the potential difficulties involved and letting you focus on the more important things. Most modern engines will work great "out of the box" with minimal modification, a 10-20 year old 250 I4 that was likely abused all day long with no parts availability in the US? Not a very good choice. Hell, if you're relatively local, I have a GSX-R engine and I believe most of the assorted electronics sitting under my bench right now that you could have for cheap. Edit: This might sound kind of weird...but the engine is pretty much the least important part. When you're talking about designing something from pretty much the ground up, the only thing that the engine needs to do is run and make a reasonable amount of usable power...besides that, light weight, and good suspension setup, design, and tuning are FAR more important. You can have the most incredible engine in the world, but speed is found in suspension, setup, and power usability...I wouldn't wish one of those 250 I4 4ts on ANYONE who's racing a car. Wrong design, wrong application, compounded by lack of availability and technical knowhow. There's a part of me that's all  about the idea because I love those bikes and engines, but I really think it's a bad choice for your application 
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Oct 14, 2011 18:40
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I'm with z3n here, find yourself something widely produced, and preferrably a few years old (so there will be online communities who have already hacked and tuned it and found the right combinations and settings. Don't give yourself too much work, focus on making the chassis better. I wonder how the 690 series LC4 would fair...
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Oct 14, 2011 18:54
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ReelBigLizard posted:I'm with z3n here, find yourself something widely produced, and preferrably a few years old (so there will be online communities who have already hacked and tuned it and found the right combinations and settings. Don't give yourself too much work, focus on making the chassis better. I don't disagree with you guys here. I know there are easier and more practical ways. However, I am only doing this to get a better understanding of engines and the design process. I'm going to be designing the engine block in Solidworks and getting it verified by professionals and then getting it sent out for machining. The people I will be working with will be more than capable of reproducing parts that break if I can't find replacements.
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Oct 14, 2011 19:21
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rcman50166 posted:I don't disagree with you guys here. I know there are easier and more practical ways. However, I am only doing this to get a better understanding of engines and the design process. I'm going to be designing the engine block in Solidworks and getting it verified by professionals and then getting it sent out for machining. The people I will be working with will be more than capable of reproducing parts that break if I can't find replacements. Start with something more modern then, because there's huge differences between the engines designed 20+ years ago and those designed 5 years ago. Seriously amazing differences, thanks to improvements in metalurgy and everything else. Disassembling my 93 ZX6E and an 06 ZX6R showed some incredible differences in design and application.
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Oct 14, 2011 20:02
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The past 24 hours I have seen two particular things, one good, one bad, didn't have time to take a pic of either. Bad: Quad bike (or ATV, what do you call it?) with 17" shiny rims and low profile tires. Good: Baby blue Vespa with what looked like a homemade two wheel trailer, carrying some small planks, perhaps new moldings.
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Oct 14, 2011 20:13
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Ola posted:The past 24 hours I have seen two particular things, one good, one bad, didn't have time to take a pic of either. Until you see a quad on 44s with tires < 1" thick, you haven't seen big rims on anything. Some of the lowrider shows around here get positively silly. There was a stretched 'busa with a 33" rear. It looked like a chrome 1850s wagon wheel.
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Oct 14, 2011 20:28
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Ola posted:Good: Baby blue Vespa with what looked like a homemade two wheel trailer, carrying some small planks, perhaps new moldings. My respect for any given biker instantly increases if they're pulling a trailer.
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Oct 14, 2011 21:18
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While I was used-bike-shopping, I met more than one owner who refused to let me take their bike down the block. Not "for a spin, see you 20 minutes", just to the end of the street and back. I was honest and said "although I've taken such and such rider training course, this is my first bike purchase". What's the protocol here?
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Oct 14, 2011 21:48
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Tell them to have a good day and move on. I would never buy a bike that I haven't ridden or hasn't at least been checked out by a mechanic. V That's works drat well too. V Bondematt fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Oct 14, 2011 |
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Oct 14, 2011 21:52
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epswing posted:While I was used-bike-shopping, I met more than one owner who refused to let me take their bike down the block. Not "for a spin, see you 20 minutes", just to the end of the street and back. Ask them to ride the bike around the block with you on the back. As a newb, you're not going to be able to pick up stuff and you don't want to have dropping a bike on a test ride on your conscience...trust me
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Oct 14, 2011 21:52
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Protocol (as far as I've ever known it) was that you don't get to test ride the bike without the current owner having full purchase price of the bike in hand before you hop on.
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Oct 14, 2011 22:40
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nsaP posted:You guys are some strict sellers but it's an attitude I've run into before, just not when buying thankfully.
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Oct 14, 2011 22:45
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SV, was a dealer trade DRZ, guy bought it without a test ride KTM, new owner was a wheelie dong, cash up front Ducati, full cash in hand, test ride -> sale
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Oct 14, 2011 23:24
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Well this is a first. Anyone ever see weed for bikes before?quote:Hello I am a prop 215 patient I have some extra meds of green ribbon I'd like to trade
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Oct 16, 2011 19:25
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Figures it's in sactown
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Oct 16, 2011 19:29
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rcman50166 posted:Hey guys I got another question for you all. Where can I find parts for the old 250cc I4 engines Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha used to put in their bikes in the 80s and 90s? I know they are pretty rare in the US but don't need the whole bike, just the engines (in fact only from the cylinders and up). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. uk and ireland would have a lot of them. look on https://www.donedeal.ie lots of breakers advertise on there
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Oct 16, 2011 21:11
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Wrong thread.
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Oct 16, 2011 23:50
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I think I have a line on another toy. Hints: It did an 11 second quarter when it came out. It has an optimum engine configuration for smoothness. It's heavy. Hopefully it wont be gone before I can go look at it on Tuesday 
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Oct 17, 2011 04:10
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Z3n posted:I think I have a line on another toy. I would assume it'd be heavy, seeing as how it obviously has a V12 in it  Is it a CBX? 
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Oct 17, 2011 04:34
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Its a CBX
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Oct 17, 2011 05:00
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Its stupid cheap, and not a CBX. I should have put "not a CBX" as hint 4.
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Oct 17, 2011 05:04
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Is it a Boss Hoss? e:IT IS A BOSS HOSS ISNT IT invision fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Oct 17, 2011 |
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Oct 17, 2011 05:27
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Someone's gonna buy themselves a Z1300. e: because who wouldn't want this noise in their life? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjk4S5tpVi0
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Oct 17, 2011 05:30
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Yeah, my next guess was "that Kawi I6, whatever that was"
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Oct 17, 2011 05:33
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God this is why I love you guys. It's a Voyager!
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Oct 17, 2011 05:36
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Z3n posted:God this is why I love you guys. It's a Voyager! Like a Town&Country Minivan? Not many people willing to rep Plymouth anymore.
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Oct 17, 2011 05:43
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Big rear end Vulcan
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Oct 17, 2011 06:17
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Phat_Albert posted:Like a Town&Country Minivan? Nah, like a Kawasaki Voyager. Hopefully everything checks out in a few days 
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Oct 17, 2011 07:13
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Something like that? It's like the K1600GTL that wasn't. Got any plans, or just keep it running?
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Oct 17, 2011 16:45
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You had better do this
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Oct 17, 2011 16:57
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I still have that poster somewhere!
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Thats a poster?  Where can one buy it?
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