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Exi7wound
Aug 22, 2004

LOGANO
Remember my name... you'll be screaming it later.

TheBigBad posted:

Its about the sexiest thing you've ever seen.

Yeah... no. It's not. Especially since it's before Allison had that giant gap fixed.

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TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.

Exi7wound posted:

Yeah... no. It's not. Especially since it's before Allison had that giant gap fixed.

SO missionary only for the future Mrs, eh?

kissyboots13
Feb 16, 2010

WHY is this HAPPENING to me?!

TheBigBad posted:

Its about the sexiest thing you've ever seen. What are you? A quaker?

Whoa there. I'm a Quaker, and I love the Jackal.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
I wrote it earlier in the thread, but the lipsynching combined with Toby sitting back, smoking that cigar ... seemed like a scene from Twin Peaks.

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
I really don't get the big deal about that. In the context of the show it's obviously some big in-joke and they're just celebrating and enjoying it. Yet everyone seems to have this really weird reaction to it.

But I'm the person who thinks the "hands in pockets" scene at the end of the second season finale is one of the most dumb-as-poo poo things I've ever seen. Sorkin should be loving ashamed of himself.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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CelestialScribe posted:

I really don't get the big deal about that. In the context of the show it's obviously some big in-joke and they're just celebrating and enjoying it. Yet everyone seems to have this really weird reaction to it.

But I'm the person who thinks the "hands in pockets" scene at the end of the second season finale is one of the most dumb-as-poo poo things I've ever seen. Sorkin should be loving ashamed of himself.
Totally with you on both points. (Although out of context, calling it a "Twin Peaks" scene makes a lot of sense and is pretty funny. When you watch the episode though it's not some freakish stand-out scene at all)

Two Cathedrals blew me away the first time I saw it, second time too probably, but after that the cheesiness, the pomp, the latin, the storm, the Dire Straits, it all starts to tip the scale towards the ridiculous. It's not in my must-watch episodes at all anymore.

The third season finale is set against a big bombastic opera scene, but it's underplayed and the drama is slow-burning. It's watching the dark side come in, rather than Bartlett just being a perfect godlike Super-president again. Much prefer it.

Hoops fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 17, 2011

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Jackal made perfect sense to me after working on a campaign. Something like that happens at 3 AM on a Wednesday when you've been entering data for seven hours and it becomes a religious experience that you can bring back at any time with a word.

spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Shutting down the government did happen in the 90s, and wasn't too far off happening recently. Wasn't the first time the show did an alternate version of the Clinton presidency.

I still can't work out why that character exists.

Wow, I had no idea that things actually got that far and had a good bit of reading afterwards. Interesting stuff.

Just finished season 7 and am very happy I got reminded that this show existed. Despite its' flaws, it is still one of the better experiences I've ever had with television.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Hoops posted:

The third season finale is set against a big bombastic opera scene, but it's underplayed and the drama is slow-burning. It's watching the dark side come in, rather than Bartlett just being a perfect godlike Super-president again. Much prefer it.

The scene where he takes Ritchie down was pretty cool, though.

"In case you're wondering, Rob...'Crime...boy I don't know'? That was when I decided to kick your rear end."

TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.
So... do we think Charlie could have carried the president off of Air Force One in China?

Eikre
May 2, 2009
Do we think he could have braced the president while the man stood to pee?

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

TheBigBad posted:

So... do we think Charlie could have carried the president off of Air Force One in China?

The character was devoted enough to Bartlet that I have no doubt he'd have tried.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


TinTower posted:

One of my favourite scenes is the end of in "The Crackpots and These Women" where Josh is freaking out about getting his magic NSA card and CJ's like "of course they're not going to give me one!". Maybe it's because I really like that piece of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sQsVBolPNs
I was playing a Rachmaninoff piece for someone a while back and found myself doing that exact same move of "Wait... there" as an awesome part came up. Later when I was watching that episode again I realized it.

shelper
Nov 10, 2005

Something's still wrong with this code
I'm in the first five minutes of Bad Moon Rising and i just now noticed.

Did they ever explain what happened to Lionel Tribbey?

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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shelper posted:

I'm in the first five minutes of Bad Moon Rising and i just now noticed.

Did they ever explain what happened to Lionel Tribbey?
I seem to remember a throw away line when Oliver Babbish first gets introduced, but I can't remember what the line is or where he's supposed to be.

And I just checked and "Bad Moon Rising" is the first episode with Babbish, so if you've just watched it and don't know, then he took early retirement in Mandyville.

shelper
Nov 10, 2005

Something's still wrong with this code
There was a brief conversation along the lines of

'They keep thinking they get to be a voice in your (Bartlett's) ear and then quit when they find out they don't.

I was just wondering if there was anything more.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

shelper posted:

There was a brief conversation along the lines of

'They keep thinking they get to be a voice in your (Bartlett's) ear and then quit when they find out they don't.

I was just wondering if there was anything more.
If that's it then I imagine that they couldn't get the actor back (I know he's on Boston Legal now). A bit of explanatory exposition to get past the fact they needed to cast a new White House lawyer. I think for that story, Babbish is better than Tribbey would have been anyway. He's more jaded and cynical which works better when the story calls for a defence attorney.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

"The actor" referring to John Larroquette!? He is awesome :colbert:

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'm watching the pilot again:

Lauren: "These things look exactly alike!"
Me: :downs:

Not Sorkin's finest work, I have to say ...

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

brylcreem posted:

I'm watching the pilot again:

Lauren: "These things look exactly alike!"
Me: :downs:

Not Sorkin's finest work, I have to say ...

It should be noted we're dealing with a gal who's stoned off her rear end here.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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brylcreem posted:

I'm watching the pilot again:

Lauren: "These things look exactly alike!"
Me: :downs:

Not Sorkin's finest work, I have to say ...
Sorry, I'm not following you at all. What looks alike? Who's Lauren?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Sam has a mix up with beepers and Cuddy the call girl.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

BklynBruzer posted:

It should be noted we're dealing with a gal who's stoned off her rear end here.

I know, but I'm talking about the way that particular plot was set up. It's kinda clunky, to put it generously.

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

Hoops posted:

Sorry, I'm not following you at all. What looks alike? Who's Lauren?

Character name is actually Laurie, I think.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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BklynBruzer posted:

Character name is actually Laurie, I think.
Oh, Sam and the prostitute swapping phones. I'm with you now.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Hoops posted:

Oh, Sam and the prostitute swapping phones. I'm with you now.

Pagers. Phone back then were bigger than a beer bottle.

Yep, you're old. :corsair:

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

FrozenVent posted:

Pagers. Phone back then were bigger than a beer bottle.

Yep, you're old. :corsair:

Except Toby had a non-brick phone on the plane in the cold open.

"Are you saying I can flummox this thing with something I got at Radio Shack?"

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I just watched Take This Sabbath Day, and something that always gets me is the end. I'm not religious, but there's just something about the most powerful man in the world kneeling down on the seal of the United States. It's a very powerful image.

Also, there's a pretty big error in that scene. Right after Father Cavanaugh finishes his story about the man by the river, he says "He sent you a priest, a rabbi, and a Quaker Mr. President. What more do you want from him?" Joey Lucas is a Quaker, but there's no way Cavanaugh could have known about her. Discounting supernatural means, of course.

Other than that, it's a great episode. There were only three self-contained episodes? This one, the 9/11 one, The Long Goodbye, and Access. Ok, four. Only this and Goodbye were any good.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Long Goodbye is too dang depressing to watch.

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe

Mu Zeta posted:

Long Goodbye is too dang depressing to watch.

'"We sail," said Pascal, "in a vast sphere," Claudia Jean, "ever drifting in uncertainty, driven from end to end."'

It's a hell of a convoluted line, but when it's delivered it's an incredible moment.

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry

brylcreem posted:

I just watched Take This Sabbath Day, and something that always gets me is the end. I'm not religious, but there's just something about the most powerful man in the world kneeling down on the seal of the United States. It's a very powerful image.

Also, there's a pretty big error in that scene. Right after Father Cavanaugh finishes his story about the man by the river, he says "He sent you a priest, a rabbi, and a Quaker Mr. President. What more do you want from him?" Joey Lucas is a Quaker, but there's no way Cavanaugh could have known about her. Discounting supernatural means, of course.

Other than that, it's a great episode. There were only three self-contained episodes? This one, the 9/11 one, The Long Goodbye, and Access. Ok, four. Only this and Goodbye were any good.

I guess it's possible that Charlie told him in the room next door or something. Still, its a bit jarring.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

meatbag posted:

I guess it's possible that Charlie told him in the room next door or something. Still, its a bit jarring.

"Hello Father, nice of you to come. Oh by the way, the President randomly spoke to some campaign manager from California yesterday, and she was a Quaker! I wasn't there for the conversation, but the President made sure to tell me all about it."

:)

scarymonkey
Jul 15, 2003

by angerbeet
You guys don't know how Sorkin writes, it was probably a cut scene that went something like this:

*Enter the Father entering the West Wing escorted by Josh Lyman and Donna Moss*

Josh (Speaking to the Father): And here is where all the real magic happens
Donna: He used to saying that only to Women
Josh: Donna
Donna: Josh
Josh: Donna
Donna: Josh
Josh: Donna, don't you have somewhere else to be?

*enter Joey Lucas*
Joey: Josh we have to talk about these numbers.
Josh: This is Joey Lucas, she's a Quaker
Joey: Thanks Josh

then a conversation between Joey and him take place on the current situation and what she believes should be done and how she advised the President

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
I think it was this thread that reminded me to rewatch "The Warfare of Genghis Khan". It's the first West Wing episode I've watched since I marathoned the series this time last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2HzHSeV9v8

:unsmith:

scr0llwheel
Sep 11, 2004
ohelo
Just re-watched Season 7 from start to finish. I had forgotten how good it was. Seasons 1-4 are great but Season 7 has the most emotion. You really feel the tension of the campaign and despair of Josh at times.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
"X, I'm a senior assistant. This is way over my head. It doesn't feel right. I can't go deep-throating in the middle ..."

:mmmhmm: Guess the quote! Speaker, and what is the person talking about?

James R
Dec 22, 2006

I hear they're still eating paper. Is that true?

brylcreem posted:

"X, I'm a senior assistant. This is way over my head. It doesn't feel right. I can't go deep-throating in the middle ..."

:mmmhmm: Guess the quote! Speaker, and what is the person talking about?

Donna to Clifford Calley. Possibly wrong spelling of his second name since I've only heard it said on show. He was either the majority council or about to be, of the house committee looking into Bartlett hiding his MS.

Who needs google.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
As if anyone is going to forget the time Donna made a reference to deep-throating.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Very good! This is actually at the end of that plot line, where Cliff offers a Joint Resolution censuring the President instead of letting Leo be embarrassed by Gibson in the hearing.

The one about the hearing (Bartlet for America) is actually close to the top of a list of my favorite episodes. John Spencer is so good in that, and Sorkin does a really good job of explaining addiction.

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James R
Dec 22, 2006

I hear they're still eating paper. Is that true?

brylcreem posted:

Very good! This is actually at the end of that plot line, where Cliff offers a Joint Resolution censuring the President instead of letting Leo be embarrassed by Gibson in the hearing.

The one about the hearing (Bartlet for America) is actually close to the top of a list of my favorite episodes. John Spencer is so good in that, and Sorkin does a really good job of explaining addiction.

The fact that the President takes the censure over having the news about Leo come out is one of my favourite things in the whole show. Sounds pretty stupid in such a far reaching and impressive show, but it's just a pretty touching moment. This guy's the most powerful man in the world and he'll take a hit rather than let his best friend be dragged through the mud.

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