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ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

So I got an iPhone 4S this weekend, and the data speeds and coverage seem...lackluster at best in my area (~.9 Mb/sec or less). If I were to return it, would my contract term return to what it was at before I upgraded? It might be worth jumping ship to Verizon for the $80 ETF I had left.

Did you buy it outright or get some sort of upgrade? How did you get an upgrade with that much time left on your contract? If you bought it outright, your contract never changed, if not they should change it back for you though.

Also, I would stab someone in the face to get .9Mbps on my phone. I get .3 when I'm lucky, a lot of times >.1. :(

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Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort

ddogflex posted:

Did you buy it outright or get some sort of upgrade? How did you get an upgrade with that much time left on your contract? If you bought it outright, your contract never changed, if not they should change it back for you though.

Also, I would stab someone in the face to get .9Mbps on my phone. I get .3 when I'm lucky, a lot of times >.1. :(

I was sitting on my final Premier Silver 1 year upgrade since June, so it was an upgrade price. I'm just worried they'll try to charge me the full $350 if I try to leave them now.

Also .1 Mbps is pathetic. Whereabouts are you?

mcpringles
Jan 26, 2004

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

So I got an iPhone 4S this weekend, and the data speeds and coverage seem...lackluster at best in my area (~.9 Mb/sec or less). If I were to return it, would my contract term return to what it was at before I upgraded? It might be worth jumping ship to Verizon for the $80 ETF I had left.

Are your speeds slower than your previous phone? Some people are complaining about the iPhone being slower than android phones which is more than likely a bug that will be fixed.

Also to the guy asking about upgrading to the $99 Evo 3D on Amazon, usually those deals are for new customers only.

blargle
Apr 3, 2007
iPhone 4S vs SGS2E4GT drop test :can:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
There's a huge thread on Sprint's forums with people who moved from other phones to wind up with much, much slower speeds on their new iPhone. I'm encountering the same thing--consistently slower than my Optimus S was (which is pretty sad.) And not just a little slower either, like, a tenth the speed.

ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

I was sitting on my final Premier Silver 1 year upgrade since June, so it was an upgrade price. I'm just worried they'll try to charge me the full $350 if I try to leave them now.

Also .1 Mbps is pathetic. Whereabouts are you?

Yeah dude, they will reset your contract. If you return the phone within the return period it's like you never had it.

I'm in Portland. It's terrible. I'm strongly considering changing carriers, but $50/mo is so hard to let go of.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
:tinfoil: What if they are throttling iPhone users so the flood of new phones doesn't affect people on other devices.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

JHVH-1 posted:

:tinfoil: What if they are throttling iPhone users so the flood of new phones doesn't affect people on other devices.

Android people would love sprint :)

Ok, few things:
I haven't heard anything about iPhone speeds bring different, buy I am sure its a possibility. If its iPhone only, that should mean that a software update will fix it. Should is emphasized, who knows what apple has planned.

Sprint 3g is slower than other carriers in general. The network is getting overloaded, that's what network vision is supposed to fix. In a nutshell the problem is 4g is supposed to help offset data usage, but since it sucks the result is more people using exclusively 3g.

Return policy is 14 days, and after 3 you have a restock fee.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort
Since you'd probably know, Duckman, if I take it back to a Sprint store (bought it at sprint.com), will my contract be immediately rolled back, so I could then wander into a Best Buy and switch to Verizon, or is there a waiting period?

Hate to ask you since it's...your company...but the speeds and coverage have just been getting worse and worse since I signed up with Sprint 2 years ago, and I need coverage for when I travel. Shoulda thought ahead before upgrading my phone, but I thought it might have just been an Android phone issue.

letsgoflyers81
Aug 7, 2003

C IS FOR COOKIE!

Ozmodiar posted:

Wednesday in Hong Kong.

Tuesday at 10PM EST in the States.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

JHVH-1 posted:

:tinfoil: What if they are throttling iPhone users so the flood of new phones doesn't affect people on other devices.

After they bet the farm on the jesus phone? Unlikely.

Ozmodiar
Sep 25, 2003

Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

letsgoflyers81 posted:

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

No problem.

Just to confirm that I remembered correctly:

https://twitter.com/#!/Android/status/126040214085976064

OMGzKakaniz
Mar 13, 2007

up-and coming pokemon trainer


:love: Justice
Got my nexus s and I'm loving it so far. I've noticed that my wifi signal at home has been rather shoddy. I'm guessing they didn't completely fix the signal problems or is just my house?

I haven't really noticed it being terribly slow otherwise compared to my old evo

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice
My sister is on an OG SERO plan and my mom wants to ditch her landline for a cell phone. Can my sister add my mom to her plan or does that require EPRP?

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Matlock posted:

[url=http://wireless.amazon.com/f/sprintallWAF?t=cloverhat-20&tag=cloverhat-20]Limited-Time Offer: Free Activation When You Buy a Sprint Phone
It figures - I can't upgrade until the 1st of November. Sigh.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

Called to whine about my continuing network issues and spoke to a very nice fellow in T2 tech support, Joe, I think, for roughly an hour and a half. Looks like there might be a network issue with the tower closest to my house. We're supposed to have "the best" level of coverage offered period at my address, but I never get above about two bars, dropped calls, blocked calls, SMS issues the whole nine yards. It took me ten calls to get to my fiancee, who was at the house, to let her know I was taking our roommate to the ER last week.

I'm glad I don't work in a call center, he said something along the lines of "Thanks for not yelling at me :unsmith:"

I like turtles fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Oct 18, 2011

supersteve
Jan 16, 2007

Atari Bigby - UNIVERSITY OF JAH RASTAFARI
So when is Sprint getting more IPhones?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

"Sir Bobert Fishbone" posted:

Since you'd probably know, Duckman, if I take it back to a Sprint store (bought it at sprint.com), will my contract be immediately rolled back, so I could then wander into a Best Buy and switch to Verizon, or is there a waiting period?

Hate to ask you since it's...your company...but the speeds and coverage have just been getting worse and worse since I signed up with Sprint 2 years ago, and I need coverage for when I travel. Shoulda thought ahead before upgrading my phone, but I thought it might have just been an Android phone issue.

It is rolled back instantly so you can go to big red. You ungrateful bastard.

Seriously, I like sprint and don't mind working for them since they pay my bills and i feel its a good value for a lot of people, but I'm not going to personally take offense on things like that. Hell, I have the same policy in store, and actually get Verizon customers referring their sprint interested friends to me because I'm nice to them. Karma goes a long way.

Seriously, no carrier in the USA is for everyone, hence why there are multiple carriers. I really only take offense when people leave sprint for cricket :)

"supersteve" posted:

So when is Sprint getting more IPhones?

Your guess is as good as mine.

td4guy
Jun 13, 2005

I always hated that guy.

flyboi posted:

My sister is on an OG SERO plan and my mom wants to ditch her landline for a cell phone. Can my sister add my mom to her plan or does that require EPRP?
Your sister has a one in a million chance of finding a representative that'll add another SERO line to the account. They'd be more than happy to add an EPRP line though - no worries there.

bobula
Jul 3, 2007
a guy hello

td4guy posted:

Your sister has a one in a million chance of finding a representative that'll add another SERO line to the account. They'd be more than happy to add an EPRP line though - no worries there.

I went to EPRP family in order to add another line (this was when SERO wasn't allowed Android phones) and a few months later, when Sprint began allowing Android phones on SERO I went into web chat and asked them to return me to my old plan, because I only changed the plan because I thought they wouldn't allow Android on SERO, blah blah blah, and they not only returned my line to SERO, they turned my sister's line (which was created about three months previous) into SERO as well.
It's very unlikely you'll get as lucky, but you might want to try web chat a few dozen times.

letsgoflyers81
Aug 7, 2003

C IS FOR COOKIE!

supersteve posted:

So when is Sprint getting more IPhones?

AT&T currently has a four week wait if you place an order today. I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint is somewhere in that ballpark too. Despite the initial letdown of the iPhone 4S instead of the rumored iPhone 5 it's been insanely popular.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
Just got the Sprint letter telling me I been going over 300 MBs on roaming. I have read stories online of Sprint just ending contracts with no warning so I turned my data roaming off on my phone. I should be ok now, right?

I think my issue was downloading ROMs to my phone at work, and at work my phone jumps from back & forth from roaming to Sprint. No more ROMs since I have a iPhone now.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

nate fisher posted:

Just got the Sprint letter telling me I been going over 300 MBs on roaming. I have read stories online of Sprint just ending contracts with no warning so I turned my data roaming off on my phone. I should be ok now, right?

I think my issue was downloading ROMs to my phone at work, and at work my phone jumps from back & forth from roaming to Sprint. No more ROMs since I have a iPhone now.

yep, turning off roaming will guarantee you won't hit the cap. And technically sprint has to give you warning before cutting you off, and I think it's 3 months in a row that they start getting bitchy (or a shitton at once). Its a hard call because it does seem random, so safer is better.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe
So with all the hubbub about Sprint iPhone speeds I decided to let you know my results. I have ultra lovely coverage where I live in Delaware where my calls sometimes drop. Speeds in this area are about 0.2mbit/0.45 so yeah ultra lovely and I can upload faster than I can download. Amazing.

My speeds in Ocean City, MD are much better. I only did one test but I got 1.64mbit/0.86 which is a world of difference.

So I'm going to assume it just comes down to the network being overloaded. Sprint is not exactly big down here as it seems most people use Verizon. Can't over saturate a market where there aren't enough customers v:shobon:v

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

bobula posted:

I went to EPRP family in order to add another line (this was when SERO wasn't allowed Android phones) and a few months later, when Sprint began allowing Android phones on SERO I went into web chat and asked them to return me to my old plan, because I only changed the plan because I thought they wouldn't allow Android on SERO, blah blah blah, and they not only returned my line to SERO, they turned my sister's line (which was created about three months previous) into SERO as well.
It's very unlikely you'll get as lucky, but you might want to try web chat a few dozen times.

I left Sprint for precisely this reason so I'll just tell my sister No and wash my hands clean of this. I cannot stand talking to Sprint and try to avoid it at all now.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

flyboi posted:

I left Sprint for precisely this reason so I'll just tell my sister No and wash my hands clean of this. I cannot stand talking to Sprint and try to avoid it at all now.

?? He just described Sprint as being nice enough to roll him back. I won't disagree on Sprint phone care sometimes sucking, but your statement does not make sense with his example.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Ugh, I called Sprint to complain about the iPhone speed thing and they didn't know anything about it. I'm consistently getting less than .3 mbps down (typically more like .1) and .09-.01 up. I know Sprint's 3g is always going to be slower than ATT/Verizon, but this is nuts. I really wanted to keep on Sprint but may just give up on it from here.

What's the process if I do return within my 14 days? Call Sprint order support, mail back phone, get credited back to my account? If this is a known issue for Sprint and they actually get speeds back to their admittedly slow normal, I'd be perfectly happy to stick with it.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Duckman2008 posted:

?? He just described Sprint as being nice enough to roll him back. I won't disagree on Sprint phone care sometimes sucking, but your statement does not make sense with his example.

Having been a previous SERO customer 9 times out of 10 they would always change my plan to something absurd and I'd spend hours fixing it when they claim they did whatever I asked at first. Sure, one in ten times you get exactly what you want but I'm not going to risk having to deal with phone support for hours on end just to save my mom and sister $10/month.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

powderific posted:

Ugh, I called Sprint to complain about the iPhone speed thing and they didn't know anything about it. I'm consistently getting less than .3 mbps down (typically more like .1) and .09-.01 up. I know Sprint's 3g is always going to be slower than ATT/Verizon, but this is nuts. I really wanted to keep on Sprint but may just give up on it from here.

What's the process if I do return within my 14 days? Call Sprint order support, mail back phone, get credited back to my account? If this is a known issue for Sprint and they actually get speeds back to their admittedly slow normal, I'd be perfectly happy to stick with it.

You call wherever you got the phone from: online/phone, corporate store, indirect, etc. Return policy is 14 days, with the iphone you will see a $35 restock fee, you will pay a prorated amount for time on Sprint, unsure if activation fee is waived or not (I think it might be considered the restock fee). You of course need to return phone, box and everything in it.

Unknown if its a known issue or not, but Sprint 3G is getting hammered by data usage already (from Android phones) so it has slowed down a lot in a lot of areas. You could always cancel and then come back later.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

powderific posted:

I know Sprint's 3g is always going to be slower than ATT/Verizon, but this is nuts.

There is no technical reason why Sprint should be slower than Verizon. And really there is no practical reason why it should be slower than ATT.

In fact, 2 years ago in my town, Sprint's 1XRTT serivce (2.5G) was actually faster than ATT's 3G service because ATT is so over subscribed in this area.

But as the number of smart phones have increased, Sprint's 3G service has taken a noticeable dip in speed. We have only had 3G here for about a year and it has gone from being 1Mbps+ consistently to less than 200Kbps on average. But ATT has taken even worse performance hits around here.

Network Vision can't get here soon enough.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

I haven't obtained my 4s so for now my ol' HTC Mogul is still chugging along. As a workaround to get past the issue of there being no slick easy way to measure bandwidth on WinMo 6.1 Pro I just use the tethering to my iPad and use the Speedtest.net app to play along.

At around 7am I pulled off a 1.58mbps down :woop:

Here is a bunch of meaningless results via the export as cvs by email option I never noticed before in the app, Houston area is home base.

code:
Date	                Download	Upload	       Latency	Server Name
				
10/18/2011 07:35	 637 kbps	461 kbps	139 ms	Houston, TX
10/18/2011 07:01	 979 kbps	342 kbps	129 ms	Houston, TX
10/18/2011 06:41	1584 kbps	336 kbps	111 ms	Houston, TX
10/18/2011 06:40	1189 kbps	503 kbps	115 ms	Houston, TX
10/18/2011 06:38	1449 kbps	486 kbps	117 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:49	 521 kbps	422 kbps	123 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:49	 666 kbps	322 kbps	110 ms	Little Rock, AR
10/17/2011 07:47	 587 kbps	436 kbps	140 ms	Little Rock, AR
10/17/2011 07:46	 707 kbps	451 kbps	220 ms	Dallas, TX
10/17/2011 07:45	 575 kbps	363 kbps	225 ms	Austin, TX
10/17/2011 07:45	1025 kbps	341 kbps	261 ms	Austin, TX
10/17/2011 07:38	 221 kbps	234 kbps	137 ms	San Antonio, TX
10/17/2011 07:37	 643 kbps	376 kbps	248 ms	Muleshoe, TX
10/17/2011 07:36	 607 kbps	356 kbps	151 ms	Lagos
10/17/2011 07:35	 387 kbps	276 kbps	227 ms	Poza Rica
10/17/2011 07:35	 634 kbps	235 kbps	118 ms	Midland, TX
10/17/2011 07:33	 310 kbps	474 kbps	 93 ms	Temple, TX
10/17/2011 07:28	 571 kbps	 61 kbps        394 ms	Sumter, SC
10/17/2011 07:27	 808 kbps	 36 kbps        365 ms	Sumter, SC
10/17/2011 07:26	 834 kbps	452 kbps	214 ms	Muleshoe, TX
10/17/2011 07:25	 552 kbps	 60 kbps	262 ms	Muleshoe, TX
10/17/2011 07:23	 531 kbps	265 kbps	105 ms	Dallas, TX
10/17/2011 07:22	 842 kbps	476 kbps	230 ms	Corpus Christi, TX
10/17/2011 07:22	1520 kbps	505 kbps	210 ms	Corpus Christi, TX
10/17/2011 07:21	 439 kbps	377 kbps	106 ms	Fort Worth, TX
10/17/2011 07:19  	 881 kbps	385 kbps	102 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:19	 845 kbps	533 kbps	 97 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:18	 270 kbps	448 kbps	108 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:17	 358 kbps	456 kbps	125 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:14	 885 kbps	352 kbps	242 ms	Austin, TX
10/17/2011 07:13	 343 kbps	430 kbps	108 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:11	 617 kbps	389 kbps	 94 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:10	 543 kbps	507 kbps	 91 ms	Houston, TX
10/17/2011 07:09	 489 kbps	486 kbps	105 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:20	 500 kbps	594 kbps	107 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:19	1407 kbps	794 kbps	 96 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:17	 397 kbps	471 kbps	118 ms	Fresnillo,  Zac
10/16/2011 09:16	1224 kbps	384 kbps	190 ms	Chihuahua
10/16/2011 09:15	 661 kbps	572 kbps	195 ms	Delicias
10/16/2011 09:13	 689 kbps	427 kbps	 92 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:12	1425 kbps	815 kbps	105 ms	Temple, TX
10/16/2011 09:12	1410 kbps	661 kbps	 96 ms	Temple, TX
10/16/2011 09:11	1103 kbps	627 kbps	 98 ms	Temple, TX
10/16/2011 09:09	1140 kbps	664 kbps	249 ms	Austin, TX
10/16/2011 09:06	1095 kbps	382 kbps	122 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:04	 594 kbps	433 kbps	107 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 09:03	 687 kbps	300 kbps	212 ms	Oaxaca
10/16/2011 09:01	1162 kbps	626 kbps	179 ms	Oaxaca
10/16/2011 08:59	1069 kbps	763 kbps	254 ms	Austin, TX
10/16/2011 08:57	 635 kbps	690 kbps	252 ms	Austin, TX
10/16/2011 08:55	 586 kbps	499 kbps	248 ms	Austin, TX
10/16/2011 08:54	 727 kbps	565 kbps	244 ms	Austin, TX
10/16/2011 08:52	 876 kbps	564 kbps	105 ms	Houston, TX
10/16/2011 08:50	 583 kbps	514 kbps	103 ms	Houston, TX

Chihuahua and Oaxaca outta nowhere for runner up prizes. I'm clueless and curious as to where the major bottle necking would be and whats causing most of the inconsistency.

Towers? Backhaul? Both?

Return periods aren't very long and I'm worried that this won't clear up for awhile :negative:

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Here's what I've been getting. You're way better at formatting than I am :(

You can see a glorious period this morning where I hit 576 kbps. There are multiple restarts in here, a service update thing with spring support, and two different locations about 5 miles apart.

code:
Download	Upload	Latency	ServerName
			
81 kbps	    47 kbps	583 ms	Chicago, IL
			
57 kbps	    131 kbps	511 ms	Overland Park, KS
			
120 kbps  91 kbps	613 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
92 kbps	     128 kbps	170 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
93 kbps	     44 kbps	496 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
16 kbps	     6 kbps	1260 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
67 kbps	     15 kbps	457 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
21 kbps	     3 kbps	2059 ms	Sioux City, IA
			
91 kbps	     101 kbps	913 ms	Sioux City, IA
			
175 kbps	156 kbps	439 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
183 kbps	17 kbps	445 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
210 kbps	14 kbps	273 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
359 kbps	293 kbps	129 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
429 kbps	505 kbps	189 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
301 kbps	90 kbps	379 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
576 kbps	34 kbps	210 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
96 kbps	  249 kbps	224 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
303 kbps	180 kbps	128 ms	Plattsmouth, NE
			
90 kbps	  32 kbps	689 ms	Plattsmouth, NE

9axle
Sep 6, 2009
Welp, I got my Airave today. It worked for a couple hours, then lost GPS. I have since hooked the external antenna up and mounted it to a small plate I riveted to my gutter, with a view north, south and west, and still no signal. Any ideas?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

"Sir Bobert Fishbone" posted:

I was sitting on my final Premier Silver 1 year upgrade since June, so it was an upgrade price. I'm just worried they'll try to charge me the full $350 if I try to leave them now.

Also .1 Mbps is pathetic. Whereabouts are you?

They will only charge that if its after 14 days.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

a thing: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225037

:iiam:

happy to hear if it works for others, I wanna believe :banjo:

selfishly want news doom gloom SPRINT IPHONES BUSTED? NEWS AT 11 to scare people away from buying so I can swoop in before the news doesn't cover except for one 10 second segment the less exciting word that things got fixed

grahm
Oct 17, 2005
taxes :(

Bulgakov posted:

a thing: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225037

:iiam:

happy to hear if it works for others, I wanna believe :banjo:

selfishly want news doom gloom SPRINT IPHONES BUSTED? NEWS AT 11 to scare people away from buying so I can swoop in before the news doesn't cover except for one 10 second segment the less exciting word that things got fixed

This brought my download speeds up to like 1.5 mb/s. That's not great, but it's way better than what I was seeing.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Bulgakov posted:

a thing: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225037

:iiam:

happy to hear if it works for others, I wanna believe :banjo:

selfishly want news doom gloom SPRINT IPHONES BUSTED? NEWS AT 11 to scare people away from buying so I can swoop in before the news doesn't cover except for one 10 second segment the less exciting word that things got fixed

Thanks for this. I figured something like this would come out sooner or later. The EVO had the streaming problem you had to do some crazy jump through hoops thing to get it working correct.

td4guy
Jun 13, 2005

I always hated that guy.

Abeya Minora posted:

They fixed it on their website, but there was a url coupon exploit that allowed you to purchase it with the ICARUS SUBSIDIZED PHONE version of various iphone 4s, by manually malforming the store identities. Again, it's fixed, and they cancelled a few of my friends orders, but I have currently being prepared for shipment a "iPhone 4S 16GB White Sprint- UNLOCKED".

Here's the URL I used for mine - I'm told it doesnt work at all anymore, but yrmv http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD378LL/A?select=select&product=MD378LL/A&cppart=UNLOCKED/US
Got any updates on yours? Mine just changed from "processing" to "preparing for shipment".

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Google/Samsung ICS/Galaxy Nexus livestream here:

http://www.youtube.com/android

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moolchaba
Jul 21, 2007
I must have this loving phone! :derp:

Suck it, steve jobs... oh

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