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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I don't want to be one of those "The poor have it great" people, but I'd pay to get Medicaid.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ArchRanger posted:

I have unironically been told that if it weren't for government regulation the gulf spill wouldn't have happened. Because if the government hadn't been telling them what to do they would've found a more efficient way to inspect their equipment! :downs:

Yeah that's a common one. You see the government mandates business do things a certain really inefficient way so they have to spend all their money complying with those regulations and because they follow them don't feel the need to fix things that they would otherwise fix because... (at this point I can't hear them any more because of the blood pounding in my ears and the voices calling for a sacrifice).

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah that's a common one. You see the government mandates business do things a certain really inefficient way so they have to spend all their money complying with those regulations and because they follow them don't feel the need to fix things that they would otherwise fix because... (at this point I can't hear them any more because of the blood pounding in my ears and the voices calling for a sacrifice).

That's when you post:

"Yes, obviously when the government doesn't regulate things everything works out fi...

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Note that medicare and madicaide are two different programs. Everyone's points still stand, though.


Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I don't want to be one of those "The poor have it great" people, but I'd pay to get Medicaid.
It sounds pretty great, maybe they should offer it to everyone.

Funny how the government can't do anything right, and yet all these programs the proles and illegals get into make life a dream.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

I got into an argument on Facebook (yes I know, it's a pointless exercise) with a guy who thought that the financial crisis was caused by too much regulation, rather than too little. Somehow the governments were forcing banks to be risky with lending or something.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
He's referring to the Community Reinvestment Act, which doesn't force banks to accept risky loans, it just forces them not to use "redlining", which is a form of racial discrimination (automatically rejecting loan applications from certain postcodes because poor people/blacks live there). Once the poor/black applicant is in front of the banker's desk, the bank can still reject the applicant if they think they are too risky.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

Lady Gaza posted:

I got into an argument on Facebook (yes I know, it's a pointless exercise) with a guy who thought that the financial crisis was caused by too much regulation, rather than too little. Somehow the governments were forcing banks to be risky with lending or something.

I had the same experience a few weeks ago. My response was that CRA (what the above poster mentions) was enacted in the 70s and we didn't have a global financial crisis until banks started going nuts with risky loans. It didn't stick.

In facebook news, a guy I work with: "Nazi Party supports Occupy Wall Street.........Pres Obama supports Occupy Wall Street......past time to get concerned people."

And a response: "Hey now, with talk like that you'll get thrown off Monday Night Football..."

Intelligent people who are so willfully ignorant infuriate me but I won't say anything because I don't want work to become a hostile place with me being one of the only liberals around (in the state).

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl

xwonderboyx posted:

I had the same experience a few weeks ago. My response was that CRA (what the above poster mentions) was enacted in the 70s and we didn't have a global financial crisis until banks started going nuts with risky loans. It didn't stick.

In facebook news, a guy I work with: "Nazi Party supports Occupy Wall Street.........Pres Obama supports Occupy Wall Street......past time to get concerned people."

And a response: "Hey now, with talk like that you'll get thrown off Monday Night Football..."

Intelligent people who are so willfully ignorant infuriate me but I won't say anything because I don't want work to become a hostile place with me being one of the only liberals around (in the state).

Not to mention you could get fired forbeing a liberal gosh, no reason at all!

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
My uncle sent my mom an 18 page e-mail about how reducing packaging size but keeping the price per unit the same is a ploy to get more tax money for the government, but she forgot to send it to me before deleting it. :( This is my same uncle who lies about having a PhD to get jobs including government contracts for car part safety testing(Don't you feel safer now?) by claiming it's in an unrelated field so they don't look into it and blamed his bankruptcy on Obama despite it happening in December 08 and the fact that it only happened because he started a business with a personal loan since he was turned down for a business loan(And he still thinks the bank was wrong to deny him the business loan :psyduck:). From now on she's forwarding all his crazy e-mails to me automatically though. :toot:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
TerminalSaint's Razor That He Just Made Up: Never attribute to government malice that which is adequately explained by corporate profiteering.

ClearAirTurbulence
Apr 20, 2010
The earth has music for those who listen.

quote:

A young woman who was a life-long atheist was walking home from her liberal college when she realized she was being followed. She remembered that several rapes had occurred in the area, and became terrified. As the footsteps drew nearer, she prayed for the first time in her life - "Dear God, please save me from being raped!"

The rapist ran up and knocked her down, and brutally raped all of her orifices. As she lay bleeding in the alley, she cried "God, why didn't you protect me? Don't you hear all prayers?"

God appeared and said "Young woman, you have denied my existence your entire life, and strove to turn others from the path of righteousness. You had an abortion at the age of 13, your best friend is a sodomite, and you voted for a Muslim to be President."

God continued "That man who just raped you, flawed as he might be, has attended church every Sunday since he was a child, and while in prison he spread my message to the other inmates. So when he prayed for me to send him a hot piece of rear end, I chose to listen to him."

The moral is - God hears all prayers, but he acts on the prayers of the righteous.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

No loving way

Total Party Kill
Aug 25, 2005

ClearAirTurbulence posted:



Wonderful. Muslim Prez, sodomites, abortions, atheists, rape. A good parody that covers all the bases.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I am not a violent person.

Someone, somewhere, originally wrote that e-mail, be it seriously or ironically, I care not.

I want to punch that person in the loving face.

modig
Aug 20, 2002
Its fake right? Somebody please prove that it is fake.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Okay, fess up, which one of you wrote that?

If one of you didn't write that I'm drinking myself to sleep tonight.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
It had me until "hot piece of rear end." I don't think a conservative chain letter writer would put that in. Right?

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
"All of her orifices" is pretty goony.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
With a little tweaking that could be really good.

DAS Super!
Jul 26, 2007
You should probably pay more attention to your log.
/
:backtowork:

ClearAirTurbulence posted:



:stare: What the gently caress......

Lord Sandwich
Nov 5, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ClearAirTurbulence posted:



Lollin'

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

ClearAirTurbulence posted:


:drat:

the tastiest honeypot

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

modig posted:

Its fake right? Somebody please prove that it is fake.

It is a rip off of another one where a woman prays and the guy in the alley doesn't touch her. Then 20 minutes later he rapes another woman in that alley. For some reason I can't recall the first woman gets to confront the rapist and asks him "why didn't you rape me? (Aren't I good enough?)" And he says "Because you had two men walking with you."

Its not as in your face about it, but it basically blames the woman who got raped for getting raped because she wasn't Christian enough.

Pretty sure it is a parody of that one.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Sarion posted:

It is a rip off of another one where a woman prays and the guy in the alley doesn't touch her. Then 20 minutes later he rapes another woman in that alley. For some reason I can't recall the first woman gets to confront the rapist and asks him "why didn't you rape me? (Aren't I good enough?)" And he says "Because you had two men walking with you."

Its not as in your face about it, but it basically blames the woman who got raped for getting raped because she wasn't Christian enough.

Pretty sure it is a parody of that one.

http://snopes.com/glurge/rapestop.asp

It's as horrible as you remembered

ClearAirTurbulence
Apr 20, 2010
The earth has music for those who listen.
I admit, I wrote it. The original is so horrible I felt it needed a parody. Please don't punch my face, it's bad enough as is.

For tweaking, remove "all of", "orifices", and replace "hot piece of rear end" with "victim", then it wouldn't be such an obvious parody.

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
God have mercy on me...

quote:

A young woman , who was a life-long atheist , was walking home from her liberal college when she realized she was being followed. She remembered that several rapes had occurred in the area , and became terrified. As the footsteps drew nearer , she prayed for the first time in her life - "Dear God, please save me!"

The man ran up , knocked her down , and violated her brutally and savagely , before leaving her a broken shell of pain and tears. As she lay sobbing and bleeding in the alley, she cried "God , why didn't you protect me? Don't you hear all prayers?"

But God said nothing. Our God is a god of love and compassion for all who accept Him in their heart , BUT not to the iniquitous. He is deaf to those who reject His Gift , mislead others down the fallacious path of atheism , murder innocent children nested in their wombs , befriend sodomites and cast their GOD-GIVEN vote for a follower of the false god Allah and his pedophile prophet Mohammad!!!

GOD WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND PROTECT YOU FROM HARM IF YOU ACCEPT HIM IN YOUR HEART! GOD HAS MORE MERCY FOR THE SINFUL WHO CONVERTS THAN FOR THEY WHO DON'T , NO MATTER HOW INNOCENT THEY THINK THEY MIGHT BE!!! IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS JUST DELETE!!!

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Oh that old testament god, such a rascal!

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
I giggled at "pedophile prophet." Nice use of poor punctuation and crazy capilization.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl

Orange Devil posted:

Oh that old testament god, such a rascal!

That's Our Yahweh! *laugh track, lightning bolt*

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

ibroxmassive posted:

http://snopes.com/glurge/rapestop.asp

It's as horrible as you remembered

Yep, that's the one. And the commentary pretty much hits it on the head. Pray hard enough and God will make sure someone ELSE gets raped! Inspirational...

dumb brunette
Mar 17, 2009

I admire man's ability to see beauty in everything! Even a flame!

Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

God have mercy on me...

The spaces before the commas are an extra nice touch.

ClearAirTurbulence
Apr 20, 2010
The earth has music for those who listen.

dumb brunette posted:

The spaces before the commas are an extra nice touch.

It could use some line-breaks indicating the person who wrote it was using a 640x480 display and thought you had to hit carriage return before you reached the edge of the screen.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
FW:FW:FW:FW: FUNNY STORY THAT MAKES YOU THINK
>>
>>> True story I saw it on the news
>>>
>>>> A young woman , who was a life-long atheist , was walking home from her liberal
>>>> college when she realized she was being followed. She remembered that several
>>>> rapes had occurred in the area , and became terrified. As the footsteps drew
>>>> nearer , she prayed for the first time in her life - "Dear God, please save me!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The man ran up , knocked her down , and violated her brutally and savagely ,
>>>> before leaving her a broken shell of pain and tears. As she lay sobbing and
>>>> bleeding in the alley, she cried "God , why didn't you protect me? Don't you
>>>> hear all prayers?"
>>>>
>>>> But God said nothing. Our God is a god of love and compassion for all who
>>>> accept Him in their heart , BUT not to the iniquitous. He is deaf to those who
>>>> reject His Gift , mislead others down the fallacious path of atheism , murder
>>>> innocent children nested in their wombs , befriend sodomites and cast their
>>>> GOD-GIVEN vote for a follower of the false god Allah and his pedophile prophet
>>>> Mohammad!!!
>>>>
>>>> GOD WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND PROTECT YOU FROM HARM IF YOU ACCEPT HIM IN YOUR
>>>> HEART! GOD HAS MORE MERCY FOR THE SINFUL WHO CONVERTS THAN FOR THEY WHO DON'T
>>>> , NO MATTER HOW INNOCENT THEY THINK THEY MIGHT BE!!! IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
>>>> THIS JUST DELETE!!!
>>>

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Dr. Arbitrary posted:

FW:FW:FW:FW: FUNNY STORY THAT MAKES YOU THINK
>>
>>> True story I saw it on the news
>>>
>>>> A young woman , who was a life-long atheist , was walking home from her liberal
>>>> college when she realized she was being followed. She remembered that several
>>>> rapes had occurred in the area , and became terrified. As the footsteps drew
>>>> nearer , she prayed for the first time in her life - "Dear God, please save me!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The man ran up , knocked her down , and violated her brutally and savagely ,
>>>> before leaving her a broken shell of pain and tears. As she lay sobbing and
>>>> bleeding in the alley, she cried "God , why didn't you protect me? Don't you
>>>> hear all prayers?"
>>>>
>>>> But God said nothing. Our God is a god of love and compassion for all who
>>>> accept Him in their heart , BUT not to the iniquitous. He is deaf to those who
>>>> reject His Gift , mislead others down the fallacious path of atheism , murder
>>>> innocent children nested in their wombs , befriend sodomites and cast their
>>>> GOD-GIVEN vote for a follower of the false god Allah and his pedophile prophet
>>>> Mohammad!!!
>>>>
>>>> GOD WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND PROTECT YOU FROM HARM IF YOU ACCEPT HIM IN YOUR
>>>> HEART! GOD HAS MORE MERCY FOR THE SINFUL WHO CONVERTS THAN FOR THEY WHO DON'T
>>>> , NO MATTER HOW INNOCENT THEY THINK THEY MIGHT BE!!! IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
>>>> THIS JUST DELETE!!!
>>>

Perfect. Send it out and see how long it takes until it comes back to somebody in the thread as an actual forward.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Found on Facebook:

quote:

Questions for the Occupy Wall Street protestors

WHO STARTED OCCUPY WALL STREET?

>> WHO IS THE FATHER OF OWS?

>> HOW DID THIS MOVEMENT START?

>> WHO PLANNED THIS EVENT?

>> WHO IS PAYING FOR THE MADISON AVENUE MARKETING FIRM? THE NEWSPAPERS? THE FLYERS?

>> WHAT ROLE DID SEIU PLAY IN THE PLANNING OF THIS EVENT?

>> WHO IS STEPHEN LEARNER?

>> WHO IS VAN JONES?

>> WHAT IS THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS?

>> WHO IS GEORGE SOROS?

>> WHAT IS HIS RELATIONSHIP TO CAP?

>> IS HE A CRONY CAPITALIST?

>> DOES HE PAY HIS FAIR SHARE?

>> IS HE GETTING RICH OFF OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM OF WALL STREET SPECULATION?

>> HOW DOES HE MAKE HIS MONEY?

>> HE MADE $7 BILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR PERSONALLY THROUGH HIS HEDGE FUND AND INVESTMENTS — IS THAT OKAY? IF YES, WHY? IF NO, WHY?

ECONOMY

>> NAME THE TIME IN HISTORY THE GLOBAL ECONOMY COLLAPSED (AS IT IS SHAPING UP TO DO NOW)

>> IF YOU CANNOT… PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME… WHY NOT?

>> IF YOU WERE TO PLAN A GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE – HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE BETWEEN THE CORRUPT SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND THE NEW SYSTEM YET TO BE CREATED?

>> WOULD THERE BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES?

>> COULD PEOPLE DIE?

>> IF NONE, WHY?

>> IF YES, ESTIMATE HOW MANY — AND HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THOSE DEATHS?

>> BY COLLAPSING THE SYSTEM (WALL STREET) AND CAUSING ECONOMIC CHAOS – HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU DIFFERENT THAN ONE OF THE CORPORATIONS YOU ARE PROTESTING?

FAIR SHARE:

AGREED: PEOPLE SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES.

QUESTIONS

>>WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? WHAT IS FAIR?

>>IF IT’S NOT ZERO – PLEASE EXPLAIN GE (AND WHY WASN’T IMMELT ON THE RICH HOMES TOUR?)

>> WHAT ABOUT GEORGE SOROS?

>>RUSSELL SIMMONS?

>>KANYE WEST??.

>>ARE THEY WALL STREET CRIMINALS? ARE THEY NOT AN EVIL CORPORATION IN BED WITH GOV?

>> CAN THERE BE GOOD PEOPLE IN AN EVIL CORPORATION? IF SO, HOW DO YOU JUDGE WHO IS WHO?

>> GE PAYS NO INCOME TAX, THEIR CEO IS ON THE PRESIDENTS ECONOMIC COUNCIL – WHY DO YOU NOT PROTEST GE? DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PRESIDENT OR ADMINISTRATION?

>>EXPLAIN GREEN WEEK on NBC

>> IF YES IN ANY WAY…WHY?

>>IF HE IS IN BED OR EXCUSES BEHAVIOR SO BAD THAT THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE COLLAPSED SHOULDN’T HE BE DEEMED GUILTY AS WELL?

>> IF YES, EXPLAIN WHY.

>> IF YES COMPARE GE GREEN WEEK ANSWER ABOVE

CAPITALISM IS DESTROYING AMERICA

ROCKEFELLER, ASTOR MELLON, AND CARNEGIE ARE KNOWN AS “ROBBER BARRONS” AND WOULD PROBABLY BE TARGETS OF OCCUPY WALL STREET.

>>WHO BUILT THE LINCOLN CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS?

>> WHO BUILT MOMA?

>> THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY?

>> CARNEGIE HALL?

>> CARNAGE MELLON UNIVERSITY

>> THE NATIONAL GALLERY OF ART?

>> WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ROCKEFELLER CENTER AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY?

>> DOES THIS MEAN CAPITALISM HELPED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY?

>>HOW DID CAPITALISM HELP COLUMBIA?

>>DOES CAPITALISM HELP OR HURT COLUMBIA TODAY?

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION:

>> DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ITS POLICIES?

>> DID YOU OR THOSE YOU ARE WITH VOTE OR CAMPAIGN FOR THIS PRESIDENT IN THE PAST?

>> ARE YOU CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM NOW?

>> IF SO, ARE YOU BETRAYING YOUR IDEALS BY HELPING SOMEONE WHO HAS COMPROMISED ON IMPORTANT ANTI-CORRUPTION PRINCIPLES?

>> IF HE HAS NOT DONE ALL THAT HE PROMISED TO DO AND IN FACT BETRAYED HOPE AND CHANGE WHAT STOOD IN HIS WAY?

>> COULD YOU NAME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES?

>> HE CLAIMS THAT HE IS NOT IN BED WITH BANKERS AND BIG CORPORATIONS. IS HE LYING?

>> IS HE JUSTIFIED FOR NOT TELLING THE TRUTH IF IT FURTHERS YOUR OR HIS AGENDA?

>> WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS A LEADER CAN LIE TO YOU AND IT BE JUSTIFIED?

INVESTIGATIONS/FINANCIAL

>> WHY HAS THIS ADMINISTRATION NOT DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON BANKS AND BANKERS?

>> WHY HASN’T THIS ADMINISTRATION DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON THE FED?

>> WHY HASN’T THIS ADMINISTRATION DONE INVESTIGATIONS ON FREDDIE OR FANNIE OR SALLY MAC?

>> WHY HAS NO ONE EXCEPT BERNIE MADOFF GONE TO JAIL UNDER THIS OR THE LAST PRESIDENT?

>> WASN’T THE HOPE WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND PROMISED SUPPOSED TO COME FROM A PRESIDENT THAT WAS DIFFERENT? THAT WAS BEYOND POLITICS?

>> WASN’T THE CHANGE THAT AMERICA WAS LOOKING FOR AN END TO CRONY CAPITALISM?

>> WERE YOU WRONG ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT LAST TIME ELECTION?

>> HOW ARE YOU SURE THIS TIME?

>> DID AMERICA LEARN FROM ITS MISTAKE OF NOT DEMANDING A CLEAR DECLARATION OF WHAT HOPE AND CHANGE MEANT?

>> SHOULD THERE HAVE BEEN A CLEAR PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THIS NEW PRESIDENT REMAINED ON COURSE TO DELIVER THE CHANGE PROMISED AND HOPED FOR OF AN END OF CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM?

>> WHAT IS SOLYNDRA? WHAT IS LIGHT SQUARED?

>> DO YOU THINK THOSE WHO HAVE DESIGNED THIS EVENT (COLLAPSE WALL STREET) SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR PLAN TO MAKE SURE AFTER THE COLLAPSE THEY WILL DELIVER THE CHANGE OF AN END OF CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM?

>> DID IT DISCREDIT THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT THAT IT WAS SAID TO BE FUNDED, ORGANIZED AND OR CO-OPTED BY THOSE WHO HAD DIRECT TIES AND INTERESTS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

WOULD IT TAINT OR HURT OCCUPY WALL STREET IF THAT WERE THE CASE HERE?

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EQUAL JUSTICE/SOCIAL JUSTICE

>> CAN SOCIAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL JUSTICE CO EXIST?

>> IS EVERYONE ON WALL STREET PUNISHED FOR THE CRIMES OF THE GUILTY?

>> IS EVERYONE ON WALL STREET GUILTY?

>> IF NO, ARE YOUR ACTIONS TO COLLAPSE WALL STREET PUNISHING THOSE WHO ARE INNOCENT?

>> IF YES, IS THAT EQUAL JUSTICE IN SEEING THAT YOU WOULD BE PUNISHING THE INNOCENT FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE?

>>DO YOU BELIEVE IN FAIR TRAILS? A JURY OF YOUR PEERS? A CHANCE TO FACE YOUR ACCUSERS? GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT?

>>SHOULD WALL STREET BANKERS:

A). LOSE THEIR JOBS

B). HAVE ALL OF THEIR WEALTH TAKEN?

C). GO TO JAIL? IF YES, HOW LONG? IF YOU WISH FOR A JUDGE AND JURY TO DECIDE, WHY?

D). IF YES TO BOTH IN C. SEE EQUAL JUSTICE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE INCOMPATIBLY ABOVE.

LYNCH MOBS THEN AND NOW

>> DO YOU BELIEVE LYNCH MOBS (IN CIVIL RIGHTS ERA) ARE/WERE WRONG? IF SO, WHY?

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LYNCH MOB AND WHAT YOU ARE BEING ENCOURAGED TO DO NOW? (LEWIS, HOMES OF WEALTHY)

COPS:

>> ARE COPS GOOD OR BAD?

>> ARE THERE GOOD COPS AND BAD COPS?

>> IF THERE ARE BOTH GOOD AND BAD POLICEMEN HOW DO YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE?

>> IF YOU WERE A COP, A GOOD ONE NOT BAD, WHAT WOULD YOU DO RIGHT NOW IN THIS SITUATION ON WALL STREET?

>> IF YOU WALKED AWAY (AS A COP) AND ALLOWED THE CROWD FREEDOM TO DO AS IT WISHED, WOULD YOU BE A HERO OR A COWARD?

>> WOULD DAMAGE TO PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY BE DONE IF THE POLICE WOULD LEAVE? DOES THAT MATTER?

>> COULD INNOCENT PEOPLE BE HURT? DOES THAT MATTER?

>> IF YOU OR ANYONE IN YOUR GROUP ANSWERED THERE ARE NO INNOCENT HERE — DOES THAT MATTER?

>> IF NO ON ABOVE PLEASE CHECK ANSWER FOR CONSISTENCY ON LYNCH MOBS AND JURY TRIALS?

>> DEFINE MOB RULE – IS THIS GOOD OR BAD?

>> THERE ARE MANY PRISONERS THAT HAVE BEEN WRONGLY ACCUSED AND CONVICTED. IT HAPPENS THE WORLD OVER BUT ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS IN AMERICA. THE RECENT EXECUTION IN GA (ACCORDING TO YOU) IS MERELY ONE EXAMPLE. IN LIGHT OF THIS AND KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY INCARCERATED?

>> IF THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT, HOW WILL YOU ASSESS AND FIX IT?

>> IS IT FAIR TO LEAVE THE POSSIBLE INNOCENT BEHIND BARS WHILE THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON?

COLLEGE: Many of the signs on Occupy Wall Street complain about student loans.

WE AGREE:

>> MANY HAVE STOLEN FROM US

>> NO ONE SHOULD PAY WHAT YOU ARE PAYING (HAVE PAID) FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

>> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF EDUCATION?

>> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF THAT PRIVATE COLLEGE EDUCATION RISING 8 % JUST LAST

>> HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN YOUR UNIVERSITIES ENDOWMENT FUND?

>> IS THERE NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO LOWER TUITION COSTS?

MOM & DAD

>> ARE YOU SINCERELY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR PARENTS AND WHAT THEY FACE AS WELL AS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR YOU?

>> HAVE YOUR PARENTS WORKED HARD FOR THEIR HOME AND WHAT LITTLE MONEY THEY HAVE SAVED DURING THEIR LIFETIME?

>> IF YOU SUCCEED IN COLLAPSING WALL STREET, WHO IS HURT AND WHO IS HURT THE MOST?

>> ARE YOUR PARENTS HURT? YOUR FRIENDS PARENTS?

>> UNION PENSIONS ARE INVESTED IN WALL STREET

>> YOUR UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT

>> THE AVERAGE AMERICAN (401K) IS INVESTED IN WALL STREET.

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LIFETIME OF WORK BY YOUR PARENTS IF YOUR ACTIONS CAUSE A COLLAPSE OF THE SYSTEM?

FOREIGN COUNTRIES

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ANY GOVERNMENT ABROAD WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON YOUR FREEDOMS?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT US TROOPS SHOULD BE CALLED HOME?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE TOUR TROOPS ARE BABY KILLERS? OR PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WERE EITHER MISGUIDED OR USED?

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE TROOPS OVERSEAS IF THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE IF YOU DON’T PULL THE TROOPS OUT BEFORE A COLLAPSE THERE WOULD BE A GREATER OR LESSER CHANCE OF MORE KILLING?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT FORCES ON EITHER SIDE COULD OR WOULD USE AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AS AN EXCUSE FOR MORE KILLING?

>> WOULD YOU HAVE PLAYED ANY ROLE IN THAT POSSIBLE KILLING BASED ON YOUR ACTIONS HERE TO COLLAPSE WALL STREET?

>> IF NO; DO THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS?

>> IF YES; IF THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS… DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS?

>> IF NOT WHY?

>> IF YES, EXPLAIN WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT THAT GEORGE W BUSH, WHO ALSO THOUGHT HE WAS RIGHT.

EGYPT

>> HOW DID THE EGYPTIAN REVOLUTION TURN OUT?

>> IS IT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAD?

>> FREE, FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS WERE PROMISED TO BE HELD BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, WHAT DATE WERE THEY ACTUALLY HELD?

>> WHO IS CURRENTLY IN CHARGE OF EGYPT?

>> DO YOU BELIEVE IN MILITARY RULE?

>> WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE UNDER IT HERE?

>> WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MILITARY RULE HERE AND IN EGYPT?

>> THE MEDIA CLAIMS YOU ARE THE SAME AND ARE STRIVING FOR THE SAME IDEALS AS THE YOUTH THAT OVERTURNED THEIR OPPRESSIVE AND CORRUPT SYSTEM. IS THIS TRUE?

>> IF YES, IF YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO LIVE UNDER MILITARY RULE WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO YOU HAVE TO CORRECT THE INJUSTICE OF THEIR SYSTEM?

>> IF YOU ANSWER THAT YOU DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY.

>> WASNT AMERICAN INSERTION INTO GLOBAL POLITICS WHAT CAUSED THE HATRED FOR THE WEST?

>> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND NOT HELPING THOSE WHO WILL DEVELOP A REPRESSIVE REGIME?

>> IS IRAN A REPRESSIVE REGIME?

POST REVOLUTION

>>IF THOSE WHO TAKE POWER, AFTER THE SUCCESSFUL OCCUPY WALL STREET COLLAPSE, BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION AND THE PEOPLE BY NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN (THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DEVELOPED) WHAT SHOULD THE PEOPLE DO?

>>WOULD THOSE NEW LEADERS STEP DOWN OR WOULD AN EVENT LIKE THIS NEED TO BE STAGED AGAIN TO FORCE THEM OUT?

>>IF THEY DIDN’T VOLUNTARILY STEP DOWN WOULD YOU SEEK TO HAVE THEM ARRESTED?

>>IS VIOLENCE AN OPTION TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF REVOLUTION?

>>CAN YOU SOLVE VIOLENCE WITH VIOLENCE?

>>SHOULD THE PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A GUN IN CASE THOSE IN CHARGE DID BETRAY THE REVOLUTION?

>>IF YES, WHY.

>>IF YES, WHY DOES THIS NOT APPLY TODAY?

>>IF NO, WHO AUTHORIZES THE USE OF FORCE AND WHAT FORCE IS ALLOWED?

>>WHO PROTECTS THE IDEA OR YET TO BE FORMED IDEAS OF THE NEW REVOLUTIONARY DEMOCRACY?

>>WHO WOULD ARREST THOSE WHO BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION IF THE SYSTEM HAS COLLAPSED AND THE COPS WERE >>ALL EITHER FIRED OR JAILED?

>>ARE JAILS NEEDED?

>>IF YES, WHO RUNS THE NEW DEMOCRATIC JAILS FORMALLY KNOWN AS THE PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX?

>>ASSUMING THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE CITIZENS POLICE FORCE ENACTED TO REPLACE THE CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT SYSTEM OF TRIAL WOULD YOU ENGAGE?

>>CHE SAID “WE DON’T NEED A TRIAL TO CONVICT THE GUILTY”. DO YOU AGREE?

>>IF NO, WOULD THERE BE A JURY?

>>WHO WOULD BE THE JUDGE?

>>WHAT WOULD THE RULES OF EVIDENCE BE?

>>WILL THE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS?

>>WHAT ARE THEY?

>>HAVE THEY BEEN WRITTEN DOWN ANYWHERE?

>>IF NO, BECAUSE YOU WERE PLANNING ON DOING THAT AFTER THE COLLAPSE, IF THE ABOVE SCENARIO PLAYED OUT WOULD YOU REGRET THAT DECISION?

>>IF YES, WHAT WERE THEY BASED ON?

>>WHERE DO MANS RIGHTS COME FROM?

>>IF THEY COME FROM A COMMITTEE OR LEADERS, WHY THEN CANT THE LEADERS YOU NOW SAY BETRAYED THE REVOLUTION CHANGE YOUR RIGHTS AND DECLARE YOU A TRAITOR TO THE REVOLUTION?

>>HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY?

>>IF YES, WHERE?

>>WHAT WERE THE CONDITIONS?

>>WHERE THERE WARNING SIGNS?

>>DO ANY OF THOSE SIGNS EXIST NOW?

ENERGY

>>NOW THAT THE ECONOMY HAS COLLAPSED IN AMERICA BUT NOT SOMEHOW EFFECTED THE REST OF THE WORLD, HOW >>CAN WE AFFORD MIDDLE EASTERN OIL TO BUY GASOLINE?

IF YOU SAY WE CANNOT AFFORD GASOLINE AND THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, LET’S FOR ARGUMENT SAKE AGREE:

>> HOW DO WE FUEL TRACTORS FOR FARMING ON THE SCALE NEEDED TO FEED THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AND ELSE WHERE?

>> HOW IS SAID FOOD TRUCKED TO STORES HERE IN NEW YORK IF TRUCKERS COULDN’T AFFORD FUEL?

>> HOW DO YOUR PARENTS GET FOOD FROM THE STORE TO THEIR HOME?

>>NOW THAT THE POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A CITIZEN PATROL, ARE YOUR PARENTS SAFE WALKING THE STREETS WITH FOOD IN AN AREA AFTER THE CURRENCY HAS JUST COLLAPSED?

>> IF ONE OF THEM WERE HURT OR KILLED DUE TO A SCENARIO LIKE THIS, WOULD YOU BE IN ANYWAY RESPONSIBLE?

>> IF THEY WERE HURT AND COULDN’T RECEIVE MEDICAL TREATMENT IN TIME BECAUSE THE EMS COULDN’T AFFORD GAS FOR THE AMBULANCE WOULD YOU IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE?

>> HOW WOULD THE HOSPITALS PAY DOCTORS AND EMS WITHOUT A CURRENCY?

>> WHY WOULD DOCTORS OR NURSES BE AT WORK?

>> TO ENSURE THEY DID GO TO WORK, WHO WOULD PROTECT AND FEED THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY SERVED?

> HOW DO THE DOCTORS AFFORD GAS TO GO TO WORK?

>> WHAT SYSTEM OF ELECTRICITY IS RUNNING THE HOSPITALS?

CRONY CAPITALISM

DEFINE CRONY CAPITALISM.

>> WHEN THE GOVT TOOK OVER GM, GAVE ALL THE BANKS TARP MONEY AND ALLOWED COMPANIES LIKE GE PAY NO TAXES WHILE MAKING BILLIONS AND SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS – IS THAT CRONY SOCIALISM, CRONY CAPITALISM OR CRONY STATISM?

>> IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?

IN ALL THREE SCENARIOS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, THE SYSTEM OR THE CRONYISM?

>> WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO END CRONYISM?

>> HAS YOUR APPROACH EVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE?

>> IF YES, LIST ALL EXAMPLES OF ATTEMPTS FAILED AND SUCCESSFUL.

>> WHY DID THEY FAIL?

>> HOW DID THOSE THAT FAILED BEGIN?

>> WHO LEAD THE WAY ON THOSE FAILED ATTEMPTS?

>> HOW DID THOSE WHO BEGAN THE REVOLUTION FAIR IN THE NEW SYSTEMS?

>> WHO IS THOMAS PAINE?

>> WHAT WAS HIS ROLE IN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION?

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?

>> WHAT DID HE LEARN ABOUT REVOLUTIONS?

>> HOW DID THE FRENCH REVOLUTION END?

>> WHO TOOK POWER IN FRANCE?

>> WAS THAT GOOD OR BAD FOR THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE?

>> WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN AMERICA?

>> DO YOU HAVE HOSTILE FEELINGS ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS? WHY?

IF YOU ARE READING IN A GROUP OF LIKE MINDED, OPEN MINDED AND EDUCATED PEOPLE — TAKE NOTE – HAVE THEY PROVOKED ANY SERIOUS DISCUSSION. IF NOT WHY?

>> IF SO, DID YOU DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO GET THOSE IN WASHINGTON TO INVESTIGATE AND ARREST THOSE WHO WILL NOT “CHANGE” AND BEGIN TO DO BUSINESS IN A LEGAL AND NON CORRUPT WAY?

>> WHY DIDNT THAT WORK?

IF YOU ARE NOT PLANNING ON THEM HOLDING ON TO POWER PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING:

A). WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE? WILL THEY BE YOU? OR THE LEADERS YOU HAVE NOT YET CHOSEN?

B). HOW WILL YOU ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO DO TAKE POWER ARE NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE PROBLEM?

C). WHO WILL FUND THE UNIVERSITIES, HEALTHCARE, K-12 EDUCATION, HOMELESS, AND POOR WHILE A NEW SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO STABILIZE THE POPULATION, REPLACE THE CORRUPT SYSTEM OF CORPORATISM, BIG MEDICINE, BIG OIL AND BIG FARMS

D). WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

Foyes36
Oct 23, 2005

Food fight!

Plom Bar posted:

Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

Jesus Christ, I could only read about half of those before I scrolled the rest because the shouting hurt my head.

modig
Aug 20, 2002

Plom Bar posted:

Found on Facebook:


Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

Incorrect. "IT DOESN'T loving MATTER" may be acceptable.

I love that the last question doesn't have a ?

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

quote:

>> ARE COPS GOOD OR BAD?

>> ARE THERE GOOD COPS AND BAD COPS?

The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the bourgeoisie. Hence, all cops are bad.

quote:

AND BEGIN TO DO BUSINESS IN A LEGAL AND NON CORRUPT WAY?

This is a non-sequitur since the capitalist mode of production is inherently corrupt

Emron
Aug 2, 2005

Debate & Discussion > >>KANYE WEST?

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Plom Bar posted:

Found on Facebook:


Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

This reminds me of those stupid YouTube videos where somebody just loops one phrase constantly ("NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!") I kept thinking it was going to stop any second now. And it just keeps going. And going. And going.

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