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The Jack Noir art, With that aside, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!! Wow.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:01 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 16:41 |
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Dr Snofeld posted:I'm not getting this Aradia is evil vibe that everyone else is, did I miss something? At the end of the Doc Scratch interlude, we learn that Aradia (or possibly her ancestor) is Lord English's Handmaid and herald. Now that the sequence of events needed to summon LE are presumably complete, the kids and trolls are threats to be eliminated!
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:03 |
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Thundarr posted:At the end of the Doc Scratch interlude, we learn that Aradia (or possibly her ancestor) is Lord English's Handmaid and herald. Now that the sequence of events needed to summon LE are presumably complete, the kids and trolls are threats to be eliminated! I read it as being her ancestor, and not Aradia herself, so that's what threw me off. Also why are you taking so goddamn long to download album, 37kb/s what the gently caress.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:04 |
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Hanks Lust Cafe posted:The Jack Noir art, You're just jealous because vriska's still dead! Actually I thought (and still do think) the same thing too when I saw it, and the closeups during the stabs, Maybe I'm just jealous that nepeta's still dead?
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:04 |
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Dr Snofeld posted:I'm not getting this Aradia is evil vibe that everyone else is, did I miss something? I think it's partially because the look she has when Rose and Dave come out of the meteor is a little and sinister-looking, and partially because of what we just learned regarding her ancestor and her role as a servant of Lord English. Basically, we're scared that Aradia, Dave and Rose might now be chumps for Lord English. I sorta doubt that, I more think that Lord English might use TIME CLONES of the dead trolls and guardians or whatever at some point, though.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:04 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:That reminds me...why exactly did Jack want to go to the Troll's session? Did we ever get a reason for that? Not explicitly, but it seems to enter his mind after Jade gets killed. He was perfectly fine hangin' around the Kids incipisphere until Jade got killed, at which point Jack seems to flip his poo poo and becomes determined to destroy the kids' entire home universe. He's either blaming the trolls for Jade's death somehow or he's just gone "gently caress it" and is blowing everything up because without Jade there's nothing holding him back at all.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:05 |
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Dr Snofeld posted:I'm not getting this Aradia is evil vibe that everyone else is, did I miss something? And judging from my friends reactions, people seem to easily interpret what happened in the flash wrong. Like one of my friends said that Lord English was summoned and that Rose, David, and Aradia were going to fight him. Also that Lord English was going to kill Sollux. And that WV was Lord English. I can't imagine what other silly theories people have made up too.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:06 |
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Oh man, this met all my expectations and then some. Poor horrorterrors, exploding and all Do we happen to know why Doc got in contact with Gamzee, apart to say they're all suckers? I'm pretty sure he gets in contact with trolls, and not the other way around. Another thing I noticed is the tadpole was flashing many colours and stuck in an 8 ball; here's to speculating the frog is Lord English. It is him. Speculating some more, I can only hope the Vriska which beat Jack in a split timeline sees everything and arrives at the green sun at around the same time as John(or Terezi). The comic says another timeline went through Terezi's coinflip, so this could be a thing. Also, foreshadowing this:
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:08 |
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jvempire posted:I don't see this either, but I can explain that people like to call all characters evil/Lord English. Lord English is summoned upon the end of the universe, so he should be there, shouldnt he? Nevermind the "always been here" thing.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:09 |
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Forer posted:You're just jealous because vriska's still dead! *holds small framed picture close to chest* someday... Really astonishing production all around but the art conflicts could get apparent at times. But it's hard to complain about anything in light of this insane feat.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:11 |
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jvempire posted:Like one of my friends said that Lord English was summoned and that Rose, David, and Aradia were going to fight him. We don't know for sure that this isn't what we saw! I think the possibility that the Green Sun itself is Lord English (although obviously he has other manifestations) is not an unreasonable interpretation. SpaceDrake posted:Not explicitly, but it seems to enter his mind after Jade gets killed. He was perfectly fine hangin' around the Kids incipisphere until Jade got killed, at which point Jack seems to flip his poo poo and becomes determined to destroy the kids' entire home universe. He's either blaming the trolls for Jade's death somehow or he's just gone "gently caress it" and is blowing everything up because without Jade there's nothing holding him back at all. Note that he's sitting around in an Incipisphere which is about to get erased from existence by the Scratch, and he no longer has Jade there to give him any motivation to stick around. It's entirely possible he simply figured he had to get the hell out of Dodge, and when he emerged, hey, there's people to murder here.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:11 |
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FronzelNeekburm posted:That's the one I meant. And it's not silent. Just very quiet. There was a tiny update but it may actually be kind of significant in a strange meta sort of manner. A set of burnt up red curtains closed in the flash, followed by a normal set of red curtains. Which means the burnt curtains are... what? And where are the blue curtains?! I'm telling you, some sort of drapefuckery is about to go down just you wait.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:13 |
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My prediction is that once Sollux 1 reaches the green sun with the other trolls to meet up with Aradia and Sollux 2, he dies. Sollux 2 then does a self-corpsesmooch and this has some unexpected effect (god tier or two alive Solluxes or something). Equius sees this and loses the will to live (as much as he can, being dead), he has been outdone.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:16 |
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Some Strange Flea posted:God dammit, I knew I would regret deleting it. I mean it only went to the recycle bin but it still feels bad. Not only is the snippet very quiet it is also backwards and pretty rockin'! The burnt curtains were closing over the fourth wall, and the non-burnt curtains were closing over the fifth wall? Or an additional fourth wall. There's a lot of walls, is what I'm saying.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:17 |
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I don't think anyone else has responded, so I will take a stab:pumpinglemma posted:1. The apple, cork, head and egg sprouted from the kids' medium-entry objects, right? So they're part of Sburb itself, not technology developed by the guardians or anything. But then why can they be used to move from the kids' universe to the trolls' universe? pumpinglemma posted:2. I can just about wrap my head around the weird time poo poo required for Dave and Rose to create the green sun. But what actually was the tumor? It's clearly not just a big bomb and a standard feature of null sessions, because it linked to both the kids' and the trolls' universes. Of course, if this is what is required to bring in Lord English then the furthest ring would be full of suns. This HAS to be different than a typical null session. pumpinglemma posted:4. How did PM get to the trolls' universe? Did she just use the same machine as Jack - and if so why did she get there so much later?
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:17 |
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Dr Strangepants posted:I don't think anyone else has responded, so I will take a stab: I feel like the Tumor is a long gambit by Scratch and others like Scratch to ultimately create Lord English/their power source outside of space and time. I feel like Scratch has manipulated everything into facilitating the creation of Lord English. Prior to the involvement of the kids, there was no Lord English although the concept of "was" doesn't really apply in the grand scheme of things. Ultimately, Lord English's entire existence is contingent on the kids.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:19 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:That reminds me...why exactly did Jack want to go to the Troll's session? Did we ever get a reason for that? He needed an outside perspective so he could kill that croaky motherfucker froggy lightshow he's been aching to kill. When Karkat was telling Jade about the cancer he created he said it wasn't just like a disease that kills the body from the inside, it expresses itself in a form that leaves the body and then turns around and destroys it. That's what Jack is doing. At first I thought it was just like, happenstance. Like he blunders into the troll session after maybe the kids banish him over there or something then he turns around and he's like oh poo poo it's that fukken frog better burst its fuckin eyeballs. But the flash indicates he was definitely planning to hop to the troll session by way of the teleporters shifting him through universes so he could kill a frog.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:20 |
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VJeff posted:I think it's partially because the look she has when Rose and Dave come out of the meteor is a little and sinister-looking, and partially because of what we just learned regarding her ancestor and her role as a servant of Lord English. Even if she is working for English, it seems likely it's less of a mustache-twirling thing, muahaha now I shall rule the universe!!, and more of a fatalism thing. All is entropy, decay of closed systems is certain, escape shall make her god, etc etc.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:21 |
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Gabriel Pope posted:We don't know for sure that this isn't what we saw! I think the possibility that the Green Sun itself is Lord English (although obviously he has other manifestations) is not an unreasonable interpretation. Also, looking up reaction videos for the flash and playing them all at once is very entertaining.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:25 |
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Some Strange Flea posted:There was a tiny update but it may actually be kind of significant in a strange meta sort of manner. A set of burnt up red curtains closed in the flash, followed by a normal set of red curtains. Which means the burnt curtains are... what? And where are the blue curtains?! I guess we know what Act 6 will be, then. It will consist entirely of Andrew Hussie redecorating his house. Curtains, a new paint job, the works.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:25 |
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Cleretic posted:Frog Forager is so Earthbound it hurts. I think I might be nuts but it does sound like a tribute to Polyanna. Hell, I'm sure the chords are the same, and the structure is similar (sans polyanna's intro).
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:28 |
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So since Dog-Tier Jade is part Bec do you think she has a running inner-monologue of "GOOD ME, BEST SELF"? It's a helluva way to fix Jadesprite's self-esteem issues.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:33 |
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Eh, I'll take the "innocent until proven guilty" option re Aradia. Doubly so for Rose. Trebly so for Dave. And if by some chance Rose and Dave did end up getting turned into LE's stooges, that wouldn't last long once they meet back up with John and Jade. The combined cheerfulness assault would surely soften any heart. Out of curiosity, I wonder when Act 6 will start up? Hussie probably needs to do a lot of planning to organise what I presume will be the "new Kids" and their session. But it's possible that he's done that planning already. Thoughts?
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:42 |
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Red2401 posted:Poor horrorterrors, exploding and all What? How? I thought they're completely eternal and are unaffected by almost everything.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:43 |
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AA: hes still not at ease with his mortality AA: but people like us have to be! AA: we have to be prepared to die a thousand deaths before our quest is complete AA: the master we serve demands it TG: so TG: im just one dead dave offered up to the time god AA: pretty much Also, why would Andrew edit Aradia's expression to make her smug? And why would he do the Ancestors background with the handmaid beforehand? Her master is Lord English. Sollux's ancestry was directly paralleled in the flash. It'd be hard to say there's no significance to it. Anyway, that's my speculation on why I think she's probably a bad guy.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:44 |
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So I'm going to try to make a Dave avatar out of Any suggestions as to title text, or does it need any?
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:44 |
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:So since Dog-Tier Jade is part Bec do you think she has a running inner-monologue of "GOOD ME, BEST SELF"? I hope this, and internal dog/mail-lady conflict for PM, are things that get referenced because I cannot see that being anything but hilarious. But man, first-guardian prototyped god tier dreamself the only thing that could make Jade more badass would be if the rings worked on humans.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:44 |
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Radiation posted:Also, why would Andrew edit Aradia's expression to make her smug? And why would he do the Ancestors background with the handmaid beforehand? Sollux's ancestry was directly paralleled in the flash. It'd be hard to say there's no significance to it.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:48 |
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Radiation posted:Also, why would Andrew edit Aradia's expression to make her smug? And why would he do the Ancestors background with the handmaid beforehand? Her master is Lord English. Sollux's ancestry was directly paralleled in the flash. It'd be hard to say there's no significance to it. I also think that Rose looks a little too satisfied/amused for the situation (considering she just created what she intended to destroy). Also, if we consider that God Tier Aradia is just hanging out in the outer ring, where we know some entity has been killing the elder gods... More over, Aradia being considered an enemy is more in line with an eight player session: 4 surviving trolls (Gamzee, Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya) and the four kids.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 22:51 |
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Red2401 posted:Speculating some more, I can only hope the Vriska which beat Jack in a split timeline sees everything and arrives at the green sun at around the same time as John(or Terezi). The comic says another timeline went through Terezi's coinflip, so this could be a thing. Also, foreshadowing this: Oh poo poo, I really like this theory.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:00 |
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I haven't seen this posted in the thread yet, but this just blew my mind. Cal is sitting on Gamzee's lap watching the clock tick down, meaning that he is likely the "most important character in Homestuck". http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005119
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:08 |
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Saradiart posted:More over, Aradia being considered an enemy is more in line with an eight player session: 4 surviving trolls (Gamzee, Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya) and the four kids. Why would any of those guys sans Kanaya maybe survive? They're d00med.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:19 |
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I might be getting fan theory confused with foreshadowing, but wasn't Jack's entry to Sgrub supposed to be less than voluntary?
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Ograbme posted:I might be getting fan theory confused with foreshadowing, but wasn't Jack's entry to Sgrub supposed to be less than voluntary? That was mostly fan theory - nobody really knew why he was there. Until now, anyway.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:25 |
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Saradiart posted:I also think that Rose looks a little too satisfied/amused for the situation (considering she just created what she intended to destroy). Your avatar made me realize that Jade's hair is black and her dog-ear-hair is white. That'll look weird if she ever puts her hood down.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:27 |
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Red2401 posted:Speculating some more, I can only hope the Vriska which beat Jack in a split timeline sees everything and arrives at the green sun at around the same time as John(or Terezi). The comic says another timeline went through Terezi's coinflip, so this could be a thing. Also, foreshadowing this: Did this thread already discuss the most recent Community episode? I mean, I know we shouldn't just talk about something else altogether but it dealt with chaos theory and 7 divergent timelines, which I kinda think relates just enough to say, "Hey, that was a pretty sweet episode."
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:31 |
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Waffnuffly posted:No, not really. There's a lot of good reasons to regard this story very highly. Maybe I'm biased because it's my favorite story of all time (so far), and I've been waiting a month like most people to see this flash and it totally blew away my expectations, but I definitely do think it's something that will be regarded as a classic in a few decades or so. Maybe not a mainstream classic, but definitely something really special in its own class of works (which, so far, is very small). I don't doubt that Homestuck as a whole is a fantastic and probably historic (in the internet sense) story, it is most certainly one of the best things on the internet right now. But looking at this flash on its own, while it's certainly very long and epic (in the actual sense of the word) and helps to spin the story's climactic buildup, it's not a particularly spectacular bit of media. Yes, it's great in that it is giving us more of the story and has cool music and is heavier on the animation, but it's nothing we haven't seen before in Homestuck. Andrew's not an animator, and it shows. All of the movement in the flash consists of stretching, shrinking, and rotating otherwise stationary objects, and it looks especially awkward when Jade is moving her arms around and moving stuff. It is essentially a long series of normal Homestuck panels with slightly smoother animation and cool music, but it doesn't really push the flash boundaries or anything. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it immensely and I agree that Homestuck on the whole could very well go down as some sort of internet legend, and this flash serves it's purpose brilliantly. But as an actual animation it's nothing we haven't seen before.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:33 |
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The "sprite edit" Aradia received is just the same one was before, but with her eyes open: http://i.imgur.com/ISNkz.jpg My guess being that Hussie realized she would look silly in that scene with her eyes closed (Sollux got the same treatment).
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:34 |
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DaveKap posted:Really liking this theory because the first time she mucked with the timeline (by killing John) we got Davesprite, so if Vriska knows what she's doing, this is very possible.
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:34 |
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DaveKap posted:Really liking this theory because the first time she mucked with the timeline (by killing John) we got Davesprite, so if Vriska knows what she's doing, this is very possible. That was Terezi, not Vriska. But even so, I like that theory too. e: Oops I misread, don't mind me
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# ? Oct 25, 2011 23:35 |