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The pesterlogs are the main draw for me, so many of them are so witty and hilarious, I can't narrow it down to just one, but I think this one might be my favorite Dave moment: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004672 code:So I guess I fail the challenge by not being able to choose. I'm fine with that.
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My favorite thing, on the whole, was probably... Yeah, okay, it was definitely...quote:CG: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING NOW.
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Easy mode: [S]Jack: Ascend. The opening vocals still give me the chills, and it doesn't hurt that Black is my favorite song in the whole MSPA discography. This was about the point where I knew that poo poo was going to get so much more complicated and dire than I had ever suspected previously. It's loving glorious. Hard mode: Rose: Proceed through door uneventfully. Ahahahahahah! Rose's expression. The prankster's gambit. The loving salamander flipping out. He is simply the best there is.
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Regy Rusty posted:My favorite flash has always been [S] Jade: Dream up extra arms and play advanced bass solo. I remember my jaw dropping at the Prospit reveal when we finally begin to understand the significance of Jade's dreamself. This is however the one flash that originally had a Bolin song that I felt lost something significant with the change. The original song syncs up perfectly with the pulling away and revealing the setting in a way that the current one doesn't. For any folks that feel the same way, the original of that flash and others have been collected here. Just open the files with a web browser.
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Oct 30, 2011 08:19
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The mindblowing, straight out of left-field climax of the 3x SHOWDOWN COMBO. Up to that point we knew Kanaya had come back, but nobody expected her to clean house like she did. 
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Tuxedo Ted posted:For any folks that feel the same way, the original of that flash and others have been collected here. Just open the files with a web browser. Was Mutiny always so terribly-looped? I can't imagine Hussie releasing something like that.
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Now that all the characters are in groups, we may finally get conversations of people actually talking to each other without using Pesterchum or Trollian, without sprites being involved, and outside of flash animations. That doesn't sound special, but the comic's always avoided it before.
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A good poster posted:Now that all the characters are in groups, we may finally get conversations of people actually talking to each other without using Pesterchum or Trollian, without sprites being involved, and outside of flash animations. That doesn't sound special, but the comic's always avoided it before. I'm pretty sure it'll be presented as pesterlogs anyway considering how Davesprite and Jadesprite's conversation on the battlefield was presented! (Or Beta John and Vriska. Or others!) EDIT: Haha I just went to listen to some stuff from Volume 7 again and the shadow of Derse on the cover has a red and blue glow coming from either side of it. dumb brunette fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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Oct 30, 2011 10:36
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Favorite moment in all of Homestuck. Easy mode: [S]JOHN. RISE UP Something about the whole rising out of death into wind-godhood really strikes a deep chord in me somewhere. Otherwise, I'd have to say the conversation starting here. Oh Dave, even when creeped the gently caress out you still make time for a rap-off. Tollymain fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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A good poster posted:Now that all the characters are in groups, we may finally get conversations of people actually talking to each other without using Pesterchum or Trollian, without sprites being involved, and outside of flash animations. That doesn't sound special, but the comic's always avoided it before. Regarding "the windy thing seems pretty weaksauce now", one other angle could be that John's powers are chaotic in nature as opposed to the orderly connotations of Light, Time and Space. Which may give him more of an edge when it comes to dealing with the very orderly Lord English. This may tie in to John being the only Kid to have no real connection with the Green Sun, perhaps leaving him less vulnerable to LE. Maybe. I dunno. Either way, John doesn't seem to be the type to worry about being outclassed. He still has pretty cool powers, now his friends have them too, and if it all helps to save the day then who cares about which of them is the most powerful? Anyway, favourite stuff: Easy Mode: [S] Enter. The full version of Sburban Jungle, first use of Hero Mode, first time the lack of a "name" in the command was used to imply that multiple characters were following the command, all four Kids involved in a Flash, and STRIIIIIIDEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!! Probably the moment when I went "holy poo poo, we've got something amazing on our hands here". Hard Mode: John: Explore lab and the three pages afterwards. Just John being derpy and confused, but "Now what in the hell is going on in here" is brilliantly phrased.
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Oct 30, 2011 11:29
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Favorite stuff in Homestuck: Easy Mode- Past Karkat:Wake up. This walk around just solidified the trolls' personalities and their interactions, and the imagae of Kakkat flipping the gently caress out while covered in wrigglers is always good for a laugh. Hard Mode: Karkat. His pesterlogs are always solid gold, and his character is really well written, to the point where he feels more like people I know, rather than a fake alien teenager. Shine on, you angry bastard.
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Oct 30, 2011 13:14
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Easy Mode :- [s] John: Reunite with your loving wife and daughter. Act 6 needs to have another pop at the recurring Con Air gag. Hard Mode :- Davesprite. Any spritelog he is in is automatically amazing by virtue of him saying something.
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Easy mode: [S]Jade: Enter. is still my favourite flash from the early stages of Act 5 Act 2. The music and visuals were amazing the first time and watching back over some of the other flashes, I still find myself replaying this one over and over again the most. Hard mode: While reading back over Act 5, this series of pages got a huge laugh out of me. The callback to SBAHJ was hilarious and after the whole build-up of Rose going dark, not to mention the discussion it caused in the thread at the time, I was laughing my rear end off at each and every page. I also think Andrew and the "one yard" reveal, as well as it's payoff in the scratch intermission, is one of my favourite parts of the story. Oxygen Deficiency fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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Oct 30, 2011 14:00
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Easy mode: Come on, no mention of this? I'm pretty sure it was one of the first pages to make me laugh out loudly. Hard mode: Although I'm sure it's not my absolute favourite, the Midnight Crew intermission deserves some credit for the sheer confusion it causes to first time readers, the wacky antics, and the twist at the end. Plus, how it was supposed to foreshadow Jack's rise to power.
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I'm going straight for the supposed "hard mode" by choosing the whole exchange between Jade and Jadesprite. http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005146 So many callbacks. And it made everybody worry about how it was going to end. Then Karkat both spares us of that fate and then makes us see it with his own imagination. The interruption via multiple computers going off is my favorite single page. E: I had linked somewhat in the middle of the conversation (when it started getting violent), so here's the link to the beginning http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005140 Mr. D Bewildering fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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My favorite plot device in Homestuck has to be the way most of the characters are formally introduced. You know, the pages with "Your name is JOHN EGBERT", a brief summary of the character's personality, then a sequence of pages which may be of dubious importance to the plot, but illustrate the unique ways that character will interact with their environment and future events - without the presence of other characters. They remind me of when television shows spend a whole episode fleshing out the minor characters and showing them on absurd adventures that the main characters could never go on with episodic regularity - except, taking only a little bit of your time and being more straight forward about cementing the characters. The Simpsons demonstrates it almost flawlessly with 22 Short Films About Springfield, where if it was the very first episode you saw, you could get a solid idea of just who the characters are with no more than a minute or two of screen time each. Now that may speak more towards the bizarreness of both series and their characters than their realism, but it still makes for great storytelling that sticks in the audience's mind. Take Terezi's introduction as an example. Parts of her character have already been established through talking to the kids, but Andrew has just added in something we haven't had any inkling of before, just because he thought it would be funny and in keeping with the zodiac template: an obsession with justice. Other stories might do one of two things to show such a characteristic: casually drop references to it throughout dialogue assuming the audience will eventually connect it with the character, or build it up as a major plot point as a way of giving a reason for it to exist - maybe a more dramatic reveal as a part of character development, but probably not very funny. But Hussie likes to keep the Bottom Line Up Front when it comes to writing characters, and it works for the format and moods of Homestuck. A three minute vignette on the trial of Senator Lemonsnout, and we're left with lasting impressions of Terezi's self-given title as embodiment of justice, and of her Calvin & Hobbes-esque imagination and her cruel and playful sense of humor - things which had already taken all of her dialogues with the kids just to establish a foundation of. Now of course we've been writing believable characters for hundreds of years without resorting to a kind of self-aware and meta procedure for entering them into the story, but for a media that isn't meant to be realistic, introducing characters in such a quickly encapsulating manner can work as a huge advantage for both amateur and professional writers. I can't count how many times I've scoffed at TVTropes-level fiction from people who confuse absurdity with entertainment on a directly proportional scale, and believe that casually dropping references to food or science or racism with every sentence a character says counts as endearing development. There is, maybe not a science, but at least a common sense to writing characters, and Hussie has managed to find and thoroughly exploit a common ground technique to doing so. MrBims fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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dumb brunette posted:EDIT: Haha I just went to listen to some stuff from Volume 7 again and the shadow of Derse on the cover has a red and blue glow coming from either side of it. Holy crap. Not only that, but it shows the Green Sun behind it. Didn't Andrew draw that cover himself, too? Bandcamp foreshadowing strikes again!
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We already "knew" at the time that Rose, Dave or both would be heading to the Green Sun to blow it up (or not, as it turned out), and we'd seen the red and blue glow associated with the tumor here, though it was unclear what that meant at the time. I think people were speculating about it in terms of the two universes, but there was so little to go on that most everyone forgot about it for a while. I didn't remember it until I saw the tumor open in Cascade. (And the cover wasn't Andrew's work, no, so it'd be surprising if it had major hints in it. According to the txt in the Volume 7 zip, it was drawn by Vinks and Shelby. No idea if they had any input from him; it seems neither of them posted about it on their tumblrs.)
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I'm not gonna lie, as far as favorites go [S] WV: Ascend will always be one of my favorite flash updates. At the time, not a single question was answered! But every now and then I'll look back at it, and look at all the foreshadowing. http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002657 For Hard-Mode, Terezi. She had a great exposition pesterlog with Rose, but when it comes down to it, Motherfucking Dance Party. http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004679
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:(And the cover wasn't Andrew's work, no, so it'd be surprising if it had major hints in it. According to the txt in the Volume 7 zip, it was drawn by Vinks and Shelby. No idea if they had any input from him; it seems neither of them posted about it on their tumblrs.) Those credits are actually for the cover art for the song Black Rose / Green Sun, which isn't the same as the cover art for the album (for some reason Bandcamp replaces the art for the first song on the album with the cover art for the entire album when you purchase and download it). It's not clear who did the cover art, but my guess would be that it actually was Andrew, since if it's someone else there probably would be credits thanking them!
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Oh yeah, I haven't done this. Easy mode for me is also WV: Ascend. It was old when I saw it - this was a couple weeks into Hivebent, I was checking out where all those weird demon kid avatars were coming from - but while I'd been enjoying the story before, this is the page that irrevocably hooked me, I think. I'm picking it more because of that than for any other reason. Hard mode, well, I don't know. It's hard to choose anything specific. I'm going to just go with the whole sequence about Aradia's ancestor: all that extra tragedy ladled onto the trolls and their history, culminating in the reveal of... Betty Crocker's true identity, of all things. And ridiculous metanarrative bullshit going on at the same time. Absurd. edit: FrictionlessEmu posted:Those credits are actually for the cover art for the song Black Rose / Green Sun, which isn't the same as the cover art for the album (for some reason Bandcamp replaces the art for the first song on the album with the cover art for the entire album when you purchase and download it). It's not clear who did the cover art, but my guess would be that it actually was Andrew, since if it's someone else there probably would be credits thanking them! Oh, weird. I didn't know the track had art of its own - why does Bandcamp do that? Should have guessed something was up since it isn't much like their other work. Hamiltonian Bicycle fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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Over the course of five days I have shotgunned all five acts insofar. I think I've gone cross-eyed.
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Level Slide posted:Over the course of five days I have shotgunned all five acts insofar. I think I've gone cross-eyed. So, what, that's one day spent on acts 1-4 and four days spent on act 5 
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Level Slide posted:Over the course of five days I have shotgunned all five acts insofar. I think I've gone cross-eyed. My god, man, that can't possibly be healthy.
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I went from start to current (it was right after God Tier Aradia was having that big dream bubble exposition about Doc Scratch's origins) in about 2 weeks and that was pretty hard. 5 days? Sheesh.
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You probably suddenly understand nothing. Read it again.
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The Fucky posted:My god, man, that can't possibly be healthy. Seriously. It took me three days, and that was mid-Hivebent. You probably missed a ton of stuff too (which is nothing unusual, really).
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It's really hard for me to think of just one thing that is memorable about Homestuck, because there's a lot of little things that I love. The moment that really stands out for me from the earlier acts, that cemented my love for Homestuck, is the whole section with WV (  ) starting with WV: Consume Several Cans quote:Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time. You've got a city to govern with a carapaced fist! My favorite pesterlogs are probably all the ridiculous Dave and Terezi conversations, though my heart belongs to this one in particular. quote:TG: ok so whats the plan But in the end: probably Karkat. Karkat is simply the best character ever, he is Troll Jegus, he hates himself so much, he has lovely taste in movies, and he cares so much about everyone, but he's repressed that under layers of sarcasm and insults. It's hard to be Karkat. It's hard, and no one understands. In particular: quote:
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:Oh, weird. I didn't know the track had art of its own - why does Bandcamp do that? Should have guessed something was up since it isn't much like their other work. This came up at least once before in a previous MSPA thread and yeah, it's really frustrating, but nowhere moreso than in this case, because the track art for Black Rose / Green Sun is gorgeous and it bothers me to no end that it gets masked by some dumb formatting issue. Unfortunately no one seems to know how to do anything about it short of manually fiddling with it, but in my experience (at least with iTunes) that just manages to put the track art of the first song as the album cover art, which obviously is just moving the problem instead of fixing it.... CidGregor fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:You probably suddenly understand nothing. Considering all the Eldritch (for lack of a better adjective) stuff that happened during the later parts of Act 5, I think I'm supposed to understand nothing. Well, I understand a few things, just not everything.
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Level Slide posted:Considering all the Eldritch (for lack of a better adjective) stuff that happened during the later parts of Act 5, I think I'm supposed to understand nothing. Well, I understand a few things, just not everything. No worries, this thread is generally very willing to help new fans understand the ridiculous complexities of Homestuck, so you can always ask questions. The MSPA wiki is also pretty thorough and can answer questions you may have as well.
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I'll start with an easy one. I don't think I've ever seen the Battlefield after the fourth prototype, or at least I didn't recognize it as such. Is it that weird snowflake thing or is that something else?
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The fourth prototyping added the tentacle like shapes all around the planet. Yeah, the snowflake thing.
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Level Slide posted:Considering all the Eldritch (for lack of a better adjective) stuff that happened during the later parts of Act 5, I think I'm supposed to understand nothing. Well, I understand a few things, just not everything. There actually isn't that much that you can't/ shouldn't know at this point in the story. The remaining mysteries are mostly "What now?" and "LORD ENGLISH". e: also Jade's penpal.
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Zorak posted:There actually isn't that much that you can't/ shouldn't know at this point in the story. The remaining mysteries are mostly "What now?" and "LORD ENGLISH". And Jaspers and Grandpa Harley.
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Kit Walker posted:And Jaspers and Grandpa Harley. Grandpa Harley had an alien batterwitch/ Servant of Lord English for a God Mother, him getting technology enough to go to Skaia wouldn't be too hard.
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CidGregor posted:This came up at least once before in a previous MSPA thread and yeah, it's really frustrating, but nowhere moreso than in this case, because the track art for Black Rose / Green Sun is gorgeous and it bothers me to no end that it gets masked by some dumb formatting issue. Unfortunately no one seems to know how to do anything about it short of manually fiddling with it, but in my experience (at least with iTunes) that just manages to put the track art of the first song as the album cover art, which obviously is just moving the problem instead of fixing it.... Whoooa, I just went to Bandcamp and checked out the track art for that song because of this post. It's really good!
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Kit Walker posted:And Jaspers and Grandpa Harley. Yeah there's a few outstanding questions like that. I don't think they're as big as all the ones that finally got answered in Cascade, though. I think the deal with Jaspers is probably that he lived with young Mom in that bedroom under the laboratory for a while. That bedroom, with its parallels to the Handmaid's, is another question that hasn't been settled 100%, but I figure that Mom was raised there by... somebody connected to Betty Crocker, somehow. As far as we've seen, Mom has certainly not been anything like what the Handmaid became, but I guess that's unsurprising if a First Guardian wasn't doing the job and Lord English wasn't present in that version of the universe.
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Snollygoster posted:Whoooa, I just went to Bandcamp and checked out the track art for that song because of this post. It's really good! Oh wow, I checked it out, too. That's pretty gorgeous, I love the whole stained glass thing. Also, Level Slide, you are insane and I salute you. Kit Walker posted:And Jaspers and Grandpa Harley Do you mean the continuous and extremely pressing mystery of how exactly Jaspers died? I feel like there are more mysteries right now, or at least, questions to be answered (what went down during the Ancestor's session? Is there an eight session game out there? What about the satellite around the pink moon? etc etc) though I'll concede that there's not many I can think of off the top of my head that are extremely plot important, except - 1. Is Gamzee still evil/crazy? Because he was looking kind of whacked out in [S] Cascade. 2. Lil' Cal and, most importantly, 3. the continuing saga of fedorafreak.
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