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KnoxZone posted:On the other hand, Hesperus II is known for being completely impregnable, so the point is moot anyways. There is no way the LCAF is breaking through that. Awesome scenario!
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Well gently caress Perhaps its time to sew some new mind grapes of wrath.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:04
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I vote B. Invade Skye. Because frankly I don't think Aldo is dumb enough to say "I'm sure we can work out a political solution to the loss of 40% of our 'Mech production capacity while we're already at war, sure we can." He has to reclaim Skye, in a hurry, if he's not going to get rolled by someone else. So he'll try a blitz attack, because it's the best of all his possible chances right now, methinks. Of course, that doesn't make it a good chance; I suspect he'll find his assault bogged down. And then House Marik gets to crash the party...
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Nov 2, 2011 00:06
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Voting A. Well, gently caress.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:07
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Just curious, but do any worlds that make tanks still remain in the Lyran Commonwealth? Cause most of the factories seemed to be on Skye and Hesperus.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:26
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Thanatz posted:Just curious, but do any worlds that make tanks still remain in the Lyran Commonwealth? Cause most of the factories seemed to be on Skye and Hesperus. Coventry, Tharkad, Alarion, Bolan, Son Hoa, Pandora, Arc-Royal... The LC's production is actually pretty deep.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:30
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Invading Skye is the only option! 
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Nov 2, 2011 00:32
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B Skye seperatists getting their heads kicked in is a time-honored tradition.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:38
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Well dang. This is gonna be tough. Skye's secession is actually backed by the good guys this time! That's some irony right there. On the one hand Option A is the more sinister option, and that leaves Aldo time to turn the tables on his wayward son through politics and assassination. On the other Option B is the option Clovis is probably banking on, since Hesperus II is impregnable and sacrificing defense against the Clans would make Aldo look more like a tyrant and a fool than he already does. After going this far, I don't really want to see Clovis get offed so easily and this is a world of giant robot fights, not war in the shadows. And if Option A isn't the Aldo Wins option but rather an Aldo Pusses Out option then I'd rather not see that either. So I'll vote B, let there be more giant robot fights. And let us hope this plays right into Clovis' hands. Possibly giving the players the opportunity to play as the Home Guards for a scenario.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:53
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B Invade Skye! It is incredibly dangerous, but is it not even more dangerous letting commonwealth fracture? If Aldo accepts Skye independence and wins over clans, what will he have left, when he allows worlds to leave the state left and right? The only way he can win is by destroying Clovis.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:57
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B. Invade Skye I don't see how the Lyrans can stand against the clans without Skye or some other support. It's not like there's anyone around to help them, so they really have no choice but to try to take Skye back.
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Nov 2, 2011 00:58
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Well, gently caress, I didn't see that coming. Can't wait for the map update.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:11
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Defiance Industries posted:Coventry, Tharkad, Alarion, Bolan, Son Hoa, Pandora, Arc-Royal... The LC's production is actually pretty deep. There's a problem there, though. This is a much earlier and different era. Alarion - The only thing here is the ruined Ioto Galatic shipyard (which lost the ability to manufacture jump drives back in the 2nd Succession) and Bowie Industries (which at this point may not even be rebuilt yet). Bolan - Doesn't have any military industries on it at all. Son Hoa - Is logistically insane, being the literal furthest location from both battlefronts AND on the edge of pirate space Pandora - Is in the COZ/Silent Shoals. Arc-Royal - This industrial complex does not exist, as the Kell Hounds and Clan Wolf-in-Exile never took over the world to build it (and even if they did, that's more than a decade ahead of now).
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Nov 2, 2011 01:17
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Defiance Industries posted:Coventry, Tharkad, Alarion, Bolan, Son Hoa, Pandora, Arc-Royal... The LC's production is actually pretty deep. I was just going off the wiki. That said given that the clan's territory is a big L from Kowloon to Fort Loudon, Pandora is definitely gone, and Arc-Royal is either next or already taken.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:17
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A It makes for a far more interesting story. Besides, if the Lyrans try to take Skye back it is going to weaken them to outside forces. It sucks for the Commonwealth, but really the best thing for everyone is to just let the Scots take their
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Nov 2, 2011 01:27
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B) Invade Skye! I intensely dislike Aldo, but as I see it, a really quick reconquest of Skye's industry is the only chance he has to stay in power, what with the clans bearing in on him from the north. And since we're supposed to be in his shoes for this vote, well... Edit: Of course, if that attack fails, he's even more hosed than he would have been if he hadn't ordered it in the first place, but beggars can't be choosers!
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Nov 2, 2011 01:31
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I am voting B: Invade Skye, because... well... I am sorry, but: COME ON, YOU FREEBIRTHS! YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER??? (seriouspost I want the Battle of Tharkad so goddamn bad I can taste it and anything that cripples the LAAF makes that more likely  )
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Nov 2, 2011 01:37
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I don't think a quick conquest of Hesperus is even possible. Wolf's Dragoons couldn't pull that off, FFS.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:39
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A because more splintering is cool.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:43
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Mukaikubo posted:(seriouspost I want the Battle of Tharkad so goddamn bad I can taste it and anything that cripples the LAAF makes that more likely You show your Clan roots with this post. There is no such thing as the 'LAAF'. The Lyran Commonwealth Armed Forces is not amused. Truly the Clan Watch has proven its worthlessness with this information.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:46
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I thought the Watch's worthlessness didn't need proving and was just a universal constant?
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Nov 2, 2011 01:49
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KnoxZone posted:You show your Clan roots with this post. There is no such thing as the 'LAAF'. The Lyran Commonwealth Armed Forces is not amused. Truly the Clan Watch has proven its worthlessness with this information. Perhaps the witless Clanner should undergo a trial of position to prove his worth, to prove he is not a failure?  (just kidding, Muk!)
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Nov 2, 2011 01:50
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Captain Foo posted:A If you chose B, you'd still get splintering, plus a fistfight.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:51
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Defiance Industries posted:I thought the Watch's worthlessness didn't need proving and was just a universal constant? More rigor is always a good thing. It's sort of like, how high school students run well known experiments, ya know? Seeing the results in person conveys certain benefits of understanding that you might not gain through simply reading about it. 
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Nov 2, 2011 01:55
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Defiance Industries posted:I thought the Watch's worthlessness didn't need proving and was just a universal constant? There have been instances where Watch wasn't utterly useless! All of these were against other Clans.
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Nov 2, 2011 01:55
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Invade Skye! Never mind that Hesperus II is impregnable, there're squishier planets in the province and recapturing those could take the wind out of the separatists' sails. Diverting forces from fighting the Clans is obviously a problem, but losing Hesperus II might have an even greater military impact.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:00
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SynthOrange posted:If you chose B, you'd still get splintering, plus a fistfight. Not really, invading skye is the canon option and it pretty old hat. hint: everytime they go back to steiner
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Nov 2, 2011 02:03
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Axe-man posted:Not really, invading skye is the canon option and it pretty old hat. exactly. I don't wanna see skye get brought back under steiner AGAIN (even if the Lyrans then collapse entirely due to the Clans)
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Nov 2, 2011 02:06
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Captain Foo posted:exactly. I don't wanna see skye get brought back under steiner AGAIN (even if the Lyrans then collapse entirely due to the Clans) Giving skye time to gather forces and maybe even pressure comstar to recongize them ala FRR. I say you have a new IS minor nation which was awesome. At least this time the Wobbies aren't going to go Jihad and crush them like the FRR did with the clans.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:10
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Axe-man posted:Giving skye time to gather forces and maybe even pressure comstar to recongize them ala FRR. I say you have a new IS minor nation which was awesome. At least this time the Wobbies aren't going to go Jihad and crush them like the FRR did with the clans. Well, it looks like Tor Miraborg played all his cards to get FRR recognized. I'm not so sure the same would happen to Free Skye.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:13
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Well, gently caress... Clever boy, Clovis. Clever boy.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:14
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Gonna throw my hat into the Well, gently caress crowd. I'd like to see this plot point simmer and develop more. We have plenty of other places where we can get our mech-blasting on.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:20
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To be perfectly honest I don't care which vote wins so long as Clovis wins. Because he is a gloriously magnificent little bastard.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:23
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See, a vote for Invade Skye isn't necessarily a vote for Aldo. I'm hoping that Aldo invades, it turns into a colossal clusterfuck, the LCAF gets decimated trying to take Hesperus II, and as Aldo gets crazy and tries to order people to divert from the Clan front to take Skye, more systems along the Skye border start declaring for Skye. Basically, I'm hoping to see the Lyran Commonwealth crumble a la the Empire, and the New Isle of Skye take its place.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:31
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^^^Agree, Clovis owns. Gonna go with a.
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Nov 2, 2011 02:33
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Well, gently caress Dear PTN, You are taking my 8 year old self's favorite story and restoring all the potential that Mary Sues and deus ex machina plot resolutions removed. You are officially my favorite dude on the internet right now. With the deepest and nerdiest of respect, Centurium
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Nov 2, 2011 02:45
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I vote for the promise of greater immediate violence on more fronts. I vote B.
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Nov 2, 2011 03:27
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Option A: "Well, gently caress." You don't fight wars on two fronts unless you can help it. Especially against what were your own people the week before. Unless you want the Clans to run roughshod over PTN's universe you vote A. (Hush, Mukai)
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Nov 2, 2011 03:28
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Option A: "Well, gently caress." I'll be back to hurt you later, little boy..
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Well, gently caress I guess we should give the guy a break, we have clan-related problems to worry about. Besides, splintering is great!
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