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I have high hopes; all I really need is a return of the gang turf war mini-game and I'll be happy. I hated GTA 4 only because I had the game 3 times and each time the disc crapped out on me. It's a shame because I honestly loved what little I played. I'm tempted to delete Saint's Row 2 off my hard-drive and throw San Andreas on there. edit: maybe I'll just get GTA 4. Again. decisions decisions.
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I see that there. posted:In reality this is a video game and not a road atlas I think rampant speculation around these parts when it comes to analyzing trailers (this is for games and film) can get a bit ridiculous, but given that GTA 4 was using Liberty City which is generally speaking a good facsimile of New York, you could say well hey, they're making a revamped facsimile of Los Angeles. And the 5 is a major artery of road travel. And they're hardly being coy with things like that in GTA 4 and in this. The road sign next to that when has an exit for DOWNTOWN and Little Seoul aka Korea Town in REAL Los Angeles. In any event, I'm not going to pretend at all what they have in store. I'm just excited when we get a chance to see more. Also I'll be interested to see if they can stretch the engine a bit more and get more cars on screen at once. It will be odd if they have a lot of freeways that are constantly bare.
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Willie Trombone posted:Los Alamont: That second style is what I saw all the time in the SF bay area.
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Nov 3, 2011 06:37
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I just want to congratulate R*, because I have never, ever seen a trailer this over-analyzed and theorized over. There is seriously a windmill discussion going on ITT. The thought of these graphics + an entire state I can drive a lawnmower across has me watering at the mouth. I'm trying to keep my expectations in check by not hoping for it to be nearly as huge and varied as San Andreas but drat. It's an enchanting thought.
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Cojawfee posted:That second style is what I saw all the time in the SF bay area. Hmm, I just did a Google maps check and there actually are some of the second style in the Alamont area even though it's mostly the first style there... but the terrain there definitely isn't like in the trailer, so I still stand by my point, that being that the IGN guys are wrong about the windmills looking like those from the Alamont pass. I was actually hoping this would turn into a redwood discussion more than a windmill discussion, but I'll get my sprig of sperg wherever I can.
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Nov 3, 2011 06:55
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One little thing that interested me in the trailer was the functional convertible top. I hope this means that stuff like tow trucks, and useful forklifts are coming back to the game, I remember wasting so much time in GTA:SA trying to make the longest towtruck/tractor train I could.
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Nupraptor posted:The thought of these graphics + an entire state I can drive a lawnmower across has me watering at the mouth. I'm trying to keep my expectations in check by not hoping for it to be nearly as huge and varied as San Andreas but drat. It's an enchanting thought. I think they can drop Venturas and not be missing anything. Las Vegas is pretty one note in the first place, not much new satire you can bleed from it.
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kater posted:I think they can drop Venturas and not be missing anything. Las Vegas is pretty one note in the first place, not much new satire you can bleed from it. If I can't ramp off the pyramid then I don't want to play GTA V. 
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kater posted:I think they can drop Venturas and not be missing anything. Las Vegas is pretty one note in the first place, not much new satire you can bleed from it. They could make a bunch of terrible, spelt out jokes about MMA? Actually, maybe it was just my cynicism or age, but was there a drop in quality in the ads in GTA 4? All of Vice City had me chuckling like an idiot, but GTA 4 had a bunch of ones where I wasn't sure what the joke was, like an impotence ad that featured a boy not getting it up for his teacher. It seemed less parody and more random mash up. And a Dragonheart parody? In 2008?
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kater posted:I think they can drop Venturas and not be missing anything. Las Vegas is pretty one note in the first place, not much new satire you can bleed from it. There always is the modern angle of making fun of it for trying to simultaneously be Disneyworld and the seediest red light district in the world, which wasn't as much the case in the 90's as it is now (despite circus circus, it didn't really start barrelling down that path in my opinion until Stratosphere and New York New York in 1996 and 1997, respectively... I also don't remember having magnets with nude women on them being thrust in my face every twenty feet back in the 90's, so there's some depth to be plumbed yet).
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if they completely focused on Los Santos. Granted I really haven't read too much about it not that there is a lot to read, but it would make sense if they're really trying to increase the "real world" feel of Los Angeles that they ditch San Fierro and Las Venturas. Los Angeles is a huge city. If they did a Malibu/Pacific Palisades down to Long Beach north/south push on the coast line and stretched it east to Anaheim in the south to San Bernadino to the North you'd have a huge swath of land that you could put in a drier dustier area the further you got east of downtown. I don't think it would literally try to recreate that much land but you could kind of just make a desert like area east of the Los Santos down town. I do think the trailer kind of gave you a great look on how Los Angeles really does feel and look though. I like virtual tourism. Just hyped period about this game.
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Nov 3, 2011 07:56
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Las Venturas was the worst part of GTASA, anyways. If it's missing from V, I wouldn't think anything of it.
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Nov 3, 2011 08:05
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Why do you hate Las Venturas?
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Nov 3, 2011 08:16
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Imagine a parade of Elvises (Elvi?) being wiped out by a tour bus... with the Euphoria engine. But yes, of course, Venturas would be a terrible addition.
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Nov 3, 2011 08:20
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VanV posted:Why do you hate Las Venturas? It's mostly the layout and terrain. Maybe they could do it better in V.
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Nov 3, 2011 08:24
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Himuro posted:It's mostly the layout and terrain. Maybe they could do it better in V. Oddly, for me, LV was my favorite place to hang out/cause mayhem/etc. Of course, I was watching a lot of CSI at the time, so who knows, maybe it bled over.
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Nov 3, 2011 08:31
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My favorite place was by far San Fierro. It probably helps that I love the bay area and have visited a hundred times over the years due to family. Not to mention...them hills. 
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Nov 3, 2011 08:33
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I didn't much like Las Venturas in San Andreas either to be honest because I feel like my memory of it was mostly either speeding up and down the strip causing mayhem which wore out fast due to how vehicles spawned there, speeding around the freeway that rings it causing mayhem, which never really wore out, and trying to navigate the side streets, which were laid out annoyingly and thus might as well have not been there. The real problem with it was that it was almost all out in the streets, but Las Vegas isn't at all about what goes on in the streets, it's about the sprawling interiors and the back rooms. Unless they can capture that aspect (which they couldn't really for technical reasons in San Andreas), then it's not hugely different from just more LA, and it looks like there will be plenty of LA already.
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Nov 3, 2011 08:33
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Granted, I'm bit of a pessimist, but I really have a hard time believing they'd create 3 cities with the same level of detail as Liberty City in GTA IV. I'd love for them to do it, but I'm not really sure it's so feasible. Just the amount of content to be created and space required to pull that off would be pretty massive. Sure, there are absolutely huge games like Just Cause 2 but the bulk of that game consists of these massive jungle islands with procedurally generated vegetation and not detailed urban environments. Then again, if there's a studio that has the resources to create something like that, it's Rockstar. I just hope that mountain isn't a backdrop or some artificial restriction because I really want to ride a bike down it 
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Nov 3, 2011 08:38
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How large was GTA4 on the Xbox 360 in filesize (saved to HD)?
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Nov 3, 2011 08:44
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I really think a GTA V Las Venturas would be great. 
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crazysim posted:How large was GTA4 on the Xbox 360 in filesize (saved to HD)? Around the 7GB mark I think.
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Willie Trombone posted:They also say that the mountain that is shown briefly implies that Yosemite will be in the game... despite not at all looking like Yosemite Isn't it just Mount Chiliad from the original San Andreas? I know this is still speculation, but Chiliad was a pretty memorable location in GTA:SA and it's just west of Los Santos after the countryside hills. If you fly a plane in that direction in the original SA, what you see is basically a PS2-era rendition of this:  Foiltha posted:I just hope that mountain isn't a backdrop or some artificial restriction because I really want to ride a bike down it I could be wrong but I don't think they'd go to the trouble of showing characters visiting the mountain in the trailer if in the finished game it's just a non-interactive background detail 
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Willie Trombone posted:[...]the 5 freeway[...]the 5 freeway[...] the 5[...]the 2 soggybagel posted:[...]the 5[...] God I hope they don't have characters say that in the game. That's taking localization too far.
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Nov 3, 2011 12:38
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I made this trailer last night in excitement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5axkGpYAK4 slo motion HD with some awesome music yeh
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Rockstar has come out with the official press release on it's website:quote:Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created. So I guess they're just sticking to Los Santos this time.
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Nov 3, 2011 13:18
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The main reason I was disappointed with 4 was that I got way too hyped, it taught me a lesson in not looking much past the first trailer or so. That being said, I would be just peachy with just Los Santos and some wilderness, AND I understand that adding two more cities into the mix shouldn't be expected. But, with the addition of military jets, and planes in general, as well as the brief sign showing i5, I wouldn't be too surprised if it did incorporate the whole of San Andreas. Either way, I'm looking forward to this, but at least I know now to just forget about it for a few months. E: Well, it looks like there's egg on my face. But at least one city with some wilderness will manage to be more focused than SA. Jezrael fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Nov 3, 2011 |
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BrandonGK posted:Rockstar has come out with the official press release on it's website: Not necessarily just yet? Surely they can still reveal?
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That seals it then. I'm glad they're not stuffing in San Fierro or Las Venturas since a reimagined LA will be loving enormous anyway. It'll probably make everything flow a bit better as well I suppose. It doesn't really make sense to throw 3 entirely different cities into the same map either.
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Nov 3, 2011 13:38
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BrandonGK posted:Rockstar has come out with the official press release... Well that's sold it for me - In GTAIV I really missed the chilled-out countryside and little middle-of-nowhere towns that San Andreas brought to the series. I can live with the game just being Los Santos if it's bringing those back. Still, strange that the trailer would feature so many shots of planes for a game confined to one city. 
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They'll probably have 1, maybe 2, airports in the main city with a bunch of airstrips or something scattered throughout the countryside areas. I can dig that.
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Snowman_McK posted:They could make a bunch of terrible, spelt out jokes about MMA? The only advert I remember finding particularly funny was the Pisswasser beer song. Again, I think a lot of the writers' efforts went into the TV stuff, but that really wasn't an ideal trade-off.
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Avril Lavigne posted:Well that's sold it for me - In GTAIV I really missed the chilled-out countryside and little middle-of-nowhere towns that San Andreas brought to the series. I can live with the game just being Los Santos if it's bringing those back. I guess it depends how big the countryside is, I remember the area around Los Santos in San Andreas being pretty full of lots of little towns. If they spread those out a bit more it could cover a fairly sizeable area.
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I had a feeling it would be like this. A modern San Andreas would be amazing but the level of detail would suffer if they had to render 3 cities with several small towns & countryside inbetween. Maybe on the next gen of consoles. One day Rockstar
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I don't think CJ and Tommy are in the video. Still, it would be interesting if they rebooted the characters in this game as the three playable characters with Catalina as the apparently rumored third female character. Either way, I really hope that the narrator is at least one of the playable characters. It would be nice to have a guy who seems to be on top even if he's temporarily left his criminal ways behind.
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Holistic Detective posted:I guess it depends how big the countryside is, I remember the area around Los Santos in San Andreas being pretty full of lots of little towns. If they spread those out a bit more it could cover a fairly sizeable area. Good point, the press release does say it's the "largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created." I guess if the city and surrounding countryside are scaled up to be much bigger than they were in GTA:SA, two or three airports would be useful.
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Willie Trombone posted:I didn't much like Las Venturas in San Andreas either to be honest because I feel like my memory of it was mostly either speeding up and down the strip causing mayhem which wore out fast due to how vehicles spawned there, speeding around the freeway that rings it causing mayhem, which never really wore out, and trying to navigate the side streets, which were laid out annoyingly and thus might as well have not been there. Las Venturas in SA was just a lot of wasted potential. Rockstar could have done some Goodfellas/Casino type poo poo but instead there's a couple missions where you smash up a coin factory or something.
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Biggest doesn't have to imply raw dimensions (though it probably will seeing as how 4 is about half the size of SA) but attention to detail in this engine means "just LS + farmside" is a shitload of works and stuff.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Either way, I really hope that the narrator is at least one of the playable characters. It would be nice to have a guy who seems to be on top even if he's temporarily left his criminal ways behind. And y'know it would also be nice if the guy came out on top at the end this time, too, not necessarily as a super rich crime lord but all plot threads tied up at the end and the protagonist not hosed over in any major way would, at this point, be a welcome breath of fresh air.
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