|
Zedd posted:Biggest doesn't have to imply raw dimensions (though it probably will seeing as how 4 is about half the size of SA) but attention to detail in this engine means "just LS + farmside" is a shitload of works and stuff. Hopefully you're right. Biggest in terms of map size isn't really a great metric to aim for (look at True Crime: Streets of LA. Huge map based on the real world, but mostly meaningless and samey). What they should be going for is density in terms of having plenty of things to do and see. Los Santos and a decent chunk of countryside will be absolutely fine as long as they go out of their way to really cram it with diversions and side-missions.
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 14:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 01:49 |
|
|
Aw, that's kind of a bummer. Los Santos was by far my least favorite of the three SA cities. I would have loved to see them take another whack at Los Venturas, and recreate the desert drive in between the two. But hey, maybe we'll see the other two cities in future DLC. Here's hoping. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 14:13
|
|
|
Hum, if it is just LS (and surrounds), I do hope it IS varied. I don't want to think this could of been so much more (all of SA). This really could be R*'s biggest game if they get all three locales and countryside/desert. Or it could be 'well it could of been'.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 14:14
|
|
|
Militree posted:I would have loved to see them take another whack at Los Venturas, and recreate the desert drive in between the two. Hell yes, that desert was beautiful. One of my favourite gaming memories will always be driving through there at dusk when the sky is all purple, with Bounce FM on the radio Edit: I wonder if any of the old radio stations will be returning with new tracks, that would be neat. Avril Lavigne fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Nov 3, 2011 |
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 14:20
|
|
|
Jek Tono z0rkins posted:Beep Beep Steve's Asleep  I can't wait to start throwing stuff off Chiliad again! I wonder if the little hovercrafts will be back. It was a nice relaxing flight in one of those from the top of Chiliad to the airport in SF.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 14:42
|
|
|
simosimo posted:Hum, if it is just LS (and surrounds), I do hope it IS varied. I don't want to think this could of been so much more (all of SA). This really could be R*'s biggest game if they get all three locales and countryside/desert. Or it could be 'well it could of been'. It's looking like they're covering most of the different environments, even if the actual different cities might not be present. Like people have said, LA has all of that variation in and around it already so it's not entirely implausible. The coastal areas looked really drat good in the trailer. Can't wait to see those not-Malibu houses in game, as well as not-Venice/Santa Monica.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 15:21
|
|
|
Did GTA4 have the missions where you had to bring several rare/uncommon cars to a collector/crane? I remember those being some of my favorite parts of GTA
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 15:54
|
|
|
Blitz7x posted:Did GTA4 have the missions where you had to bring several rare/uncommon cars to a collector/crane? I remember those being some of my favorite parts of GTA
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 15:58
|
|
|
Blitz7x posted:Did GTA4 have the missions where you had to bring several rare/uncommon cars to a collector/crane? I remember those being some of my favorite parts of GTA You bright them to a lock up garage.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:00
|
|
|
Orgophlax posted:Brucie had to steal cars for him but I remember it being annoying for some reason. It was because you had to steal them from specific houses, which kinda sucked at times.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:01
|
|
|
Orgophlax posted:Brucie had to steal cars for him but I remember it being annoying for some reason. Brucie just asked for cars in email, didn't he? I remember you'd get picture messages on the phone of cars to steal and you'd have to actually think a bit, I liked those a lot.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:01
|
|
|
Not quite. You'd regularly get e-mails prompting you to steal a specific car, and later text messages, but those were almost miniature missions in themselves. Say you accepted the e-mail to jack John's Banshee in Middle Park East, then you'd get the car's location on the map, only that specific Banshee would do, and more than likely you'd have to kill John as well. On the one hand, more fun than cruising around waiting for the Mr Whoopee to spawn, on the other, I always liked jacking a random car and realizing, hey, they want that at the docks, let's go. e: yeah, the mails were the mini missions, the text messages were more of a challenge to work out where the car was from the picture. Not always easy. e2: come to think of it this is a great example of different design paradigms where the old way was "find something to do wherever you go" and the new one is "find something to do by accepting a prompt and driving to a specific place and doing a specific thing." My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 3, 2011 |
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:02
|
|
|
I hope we do have the little side missions but hopefully they offer more then just money as a reward. Like 150% health for ambulance missions (not actually those ambulance missions though, they were a huge pain in the rear end) In GTA 3 once you completed the car deliveries didn't you get the ability to spawn one at any time? Very useful whenever you wanted a tank.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:06
|
|
|
There were two car theft series in GTA IV. The first was Brucie's, you'd get an email with a picture of the car and then they'd be marked as a waypoint on the map. Sometimes when you went to steal there'd be someone there to defend. You'd drive the cars back to Brucie's garage in broker and get cash. There were 10 to grab. The second was Stevie's, which got unlocked after you did all of Brucie's and then beat Brucie's last mission (the race), did Derrick's first mission (kill Bucky) and you have the Alderney safehouse. You get a call from Brucie and then the first text from Stevie. Stevie's targets are always in the same places (Brucie's move around for different playthroughs) but you don't get a waypoint, you get a pic of the car on your phone and a neighborhood name. Then you drive them to a garage in Bohan. When all 30 are done, you get an achievement and can drive almost any non-emergency vehicle into the garage for cash.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:20
|
|
|
Yeah I don't really like those find a car missions. I loved the big list you got in SA and then if you happened to see one of those cars, you'd just jack it and take it in for money. I mean the game is called Grand Theft Auto. Stealing cars ought to be one of the more pleasant things to do. What I really want to do in gta5 is that canyon jump on a motorcycle while listening to KDST, but I'm guessing that whole hoover dam area won't be part of it. I'm also assuming the euphoria engine won't allow completely unurealistic stuff like me being able to jump a motorcycle off mt. chiliad and land without falling off as long as I angle it right.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:25
|
|
|
davebo posted:Yeah I don't really like those find a car missions. I loved the big list you got in SA and then if you happened to see one of those cars, you'd just jack it and take it in for money. I mean the game is called Grand Theft Auto. Stealing cars ought to be one of the more pleasant things to do. I liked stealing the text message cars as it was more like actually hunting & stealing a car, rather than randomly hopping in something and seeing a message about "hey this is a car on the list!" I also liked the pier in SA where you'd bring stolen cars, and could attach that magnet and drive it around like 2 ton tetherball.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 16:38
|
|
|
Knightmare posted:I remember you'd get picture messages on the phone of cars to steal and you'd have to actually think a bit, I liked those a lot. Those were really fun, I'd like to see them again if they could somehow make it sort of procedural so that it could be kind of ongoing for as long as you wanted to do it. Like, the game would just randomly generate new ones, giving you 2-3 at a time that you could steal. Here's hoping for functional dealerships this time around, too, along with a better car saving/recovery system so actually purchasing a specific car isn't a crapshoot. I imagine this being kind of like the horse in RDR, not that you can whistle for your car, but that you would purchase the car and get a title for that model. You could then recover it for a small fee if it was wrecked or left somewhere.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 17:12
|
|
|
Holistic Detective posted:Also, I don't really care about what happens to the friend activities from IV so long as they keep the ability to go get drunk at bars and then attempt to drive home drunk across half the city with 10 cop cars on your tail whilst your date freaks the gently caress out in the passenger seat. Naturally, halfway through the surrender animation I pressed the wrong button or something, and the cops immediately gunned me down for resisting arrest. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 17:14
|
|
|
davebo posted:Yeah I don't really like those find a car missions. I loved the big list you got in SA and then if you happened to see one of those cars, you'd just jack it and take it in for money. I mean the game is called Grand Theft Auto. Stealing cars ought to be one of the more pleasant things to do. I would rather have the big list again too but not with the stupid crane minigame during which I always damaged the car 
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 17:37
|
|
|
I really hope the game has wildlife like RDR but I don't see it happening because it would probably have to tie into the game somehow. In RDR you could hunt and skin animals for money. It fit the time period. I feel like GTA could only have animals for the sake of being able to kill animals. The dog in the trailer is probably just from the opening cutscene to the game.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 18:46
|
|
|
Kymera posted:I really hope the game has wildlife like RDR but I don't see it happening because it would probably have to tie into the game somehow. In RDR you could hunt and skin animals for money. It fit the time period. I feel like GTA could only have animals for the sake of being able to kill animals. The dog in the trailer is probably just from the opening cutscene to the game. You could hunt and skin animals to sell to an unethical fashion designer in the wealthy and fashionable Rodeo Drive inspired area (if that returns in this version of Los Santos). They could even replace pigeons with dalmatians. If you get all 101 of them, you get a sharp new coat. (Hopefully not, though... Overall I don't see animals adding anything of real value to GTA. At best it'll just get even more people upset)
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 18:50
|
|
|
I'd love if me and my doggy companion would do all sorts of motorcycle tricks off Mt. Chiliad. And by tricks I mean crash horribly against the rocks below. I hope there are dogs but I agree with the guy saying it's probably just an opening cinematic thing.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 18:57
|
|
|
I'm still holding out hope we see a next-gen Vice City eventually. But hey, bright and sunny is still bright and sunny.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:11
|
|
|
I'm hoping they bring back being able to swim underwater
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:12
|
|
|
Im starting to doubt we'll see other cities.. from Rockstargames.com: We are very proud to officially announce that Grand Theft Auto V is in full development. Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created. A bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay and online multiplayer, Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California. As long as its as huge or almost as huge as SA was, ill be happy though : )
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:17
|
|
|
FetusOvaries posted:Im starting to doubt we'll see other cities.. from Rockstargames.com: That doesn't lead me to doubt we'll see other cities so much as come to completely understand that we wont see them.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:19
|
|
|
Ray and Shirley posted:That doesn't lead me to doubt we'll see other cities so much as come to completely understand that we wont see them. I would not at all put it past rockstar to do a "surprise" revealing of another city in next year's E3. I'm now leaning much more towards the "one city" side but the book isn't closed until an E3 passes and we hear nothing of additional cities.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:23
|
|
|
I hope you can do missions for the dog.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:29
|
|
|
I enjoyed the IGN trailer breakdown. It's pretty good for people like myself who don't know the layout of LA and the surrounding areas.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:29
|
|
|
SimonNotGarfunkel posted:I enjoyed the IGN trailer breakdown. It's pretty good for people like myself who don't know the layout of LA and the surrounding areas. It's pretty clear that they don't either. That's the problem.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:30
|
|
|
GameTrailers did a similar thing without all the TOMMY VERCETTI C.J bullshit. They're very excited about the dog too, though.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:32
|
|
|
Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I would not at all put it past rockstar to do a "surprise" revealing of another city in next year's E3. I'm now leaning much more towards the "one city" side but the book isn't closed until an E3 passes and we hear nothing of additional cities. If we do hear about it, I seriously doubt it will be as late as E3. There's a slight possibility we'll be seeing this game on shelves before then, and if not, it won't be more than two or three months afterwards. I'd say it'll be clear by December if they've been keeping something under wraps, and if they aren't, Rockstar is usually pretty good at about responding to fan questions when they aren't hiding something deliberately, we'll likely see a small Q&A on their website where they clarify straight up. That press release does seem to indicate it's just Los Santos and the surrounding region though, which is fine with me other than mild concern about jets and planes. It was mentioned earlier, but where exactly do they go if there's exactly one major metropolitan area in the region? You take off and fly around and... land back at the airport? I hope we see desert of some sort because desert is rad, and I'd love to see the return of a personal airstrip. That was the coolest property in San Andreas, being able to store dozens of cars, a jumbo jet, an assortment of planes, all at your own personal airplane graveyard. Swag as hell.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:34
|
|
|
Kevyn posted:I hope you can do missions for the dog. *Ring ring* "WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF" "I cannot take you bowling right now, I am robbing a bank" "BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK GRRRRRR" "Okay, I pick you up in 5 minutes"
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:34
|
|
|
Is it at all possible to install the enb series mod for gta 4 on the steam version of the game or do I have to and buy it for a third time?
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:35
|
|
|
While it would be pretty impressive for them to put in three massive cities like in GTA: SA, I'll be happy with Los Santos split into two or three segments, as long as they keep it really detailed and have some varied landscape surrounding the city, which seems to be the case. Quality over quantity I say.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:37
|
|
|
I can't believe people still think there are three cities even after Rockstar clearly stated there would not be. Give it up. It's not happening.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:40
|
|
|
I'm happy as long there's some countryside, taking a break from the city was my favorite part of San Andreas and what I missed the most in GTAIV and Saints Row 2.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:45
|
|
|
I am so glad they are sticking to SoCal. While I would love to see a current-gen rendering of San Francisco, I think it would just be too much to cram in. As long as they make the outlying areas around Los Santos interesting, this setting will be excellent fun.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:48
|
|
|
marktheando posted:I can't believe people still think there are three cities even after Rockstar clearly stated there would not be. Give it up. It's not happening. It's a new GTA game, this is like the magnum opus of hopeless speculation. Hopeless Speculators of the future will look back on these games with reverance akin to the works of Beethoven and cave drawings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 01:49 |
|
|
Intel&Sebastian posted:It's a new GTA game, this is like the magnum opus of hopeless speculation. Hopeless Speculators of the future will look back on these games with reverance akin to the works of Beethoven and cave drawings. That's true. I'm assuming I missed the part of the thread where people want the new game to be set in their boring not-an-iconic-american-city home town. Seems to happen in every GTA speculation thread I've read.
|
|
#
?
Nov 3, 2011 19:57
|
|