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Maybe they discovered it while making non lovely apex seals and found out that it's even better as a chassis.
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Cat Terrist posted:Because that's how likely a sub 1000 kg MX-5 is these days - 2000lbs is 907 kgs for those that dont know moon units.  Internet Victory posted:Why is this still being called the FT-86? Isn't it officially now the Scion FR-S? Are they putting out a version with a toyota badge too? You Am I fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 3, 2011 |
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Internet Victory posted:Why is this still being called the FT-86? Isn't it officially now the Scion FR-S? Are they putting out a version with a toyota badge too? Why does a prototype car have a bunch of sponsor decals?
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You Am I posted:Scion is an US brand only, so there will be a Toyota version for the rest of the world. The CAR article mentioned that the Celica nameplate might be resurrected for it, but no one is 100% sure yet. On that topic in 2006 the trademark for 'Supra' slipped and Toyota was a little slow to pick it up. They got it in the end but they have until the end of 2013 to use it or lose the rights again.
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mobby_6kl posted:I think someone in the other thread asked for a BRZ without the wing. Content-aware fill didn't really do it, but with a bit of aribrushing: This is the best looking new car I've seen in the past 5+ years. I don't even care about the stupid 4 exhaust tips and all that, this is a gorgeous looking car.
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http://sniffpetrol.com/2011/10/28/toyotaft86ashtray/Sniff Petrol posted:Toyota has revealed fresh details about the ashtray it will fit in its forthcoming rear-wheel drive sports car, codenamed FT-86. Naturally, the Japanese company wants to keep some details of the ashtray a secret for now, but it has confirmed that the ashtray will be made of plastic and will have a lid.
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CharlesM posted:Why does a prototype car have a bunch of sponsor decals?
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InitialDave posted:http://sniffpetrol.com/2011/10/28/toyotaft86ashtray/ Brilliant. I now have a new place to get all my car related news.
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bull3964 posted:A 2000lb dry miata, if they can pull it off, is an amazing thing. However, it still doesn't address any of the convertible shortcomings I mentioned. I really don't live in an area where I can enjoy a convertible. If they made such a thing into a coupe, it would be incredible. You know, you can get them with hard tops... 
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Moving hard tops, which add major $ and weight to it. I would much rather have the option for a cheaper, lighter fixed-roof, and I owned a NB for ~5 years.
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The folding hardtop only adds about 80 pounds on the Miata. It does add a few grand to the price.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Moving hard tops, which add major $ and weight to it. I would much rather have the option for a cheaper, lighter fixed-roof, and I owned a NB for ~5 years. Yeah, I've got an NB. Thought they were talking about 'new' cars is all.
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Tide posted:I'm generally a full throttle V8 muscle car guy, but for some reason I am really digging this car. Same here and I really like this car too. As long as it's not freaking 30 grand like for a Miata, they're going to sell scads of 'em.
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TrueChaos posted:You know, you can get them with hard tops... Yep, 30 grand new. No thanks.
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I have a feeling that there is going to be a lot of potential in this engine, but for it to be a real success in the mod community it will need LS1 swap compatible SR20DET swap compatible and I guess EJ25 swap compatible.
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TrueChaos posted:You know, you can get them with hard tops... But that was kind of the point. People were complaining about the price compared to the Miata. It takes a 30k Miata to overcome that shortcoming, so the price advantage is lost at that point.
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tobu posted:On that topic in 2006 the trademark for 'Supra' slipped and Toyota was a little slow to pick it up. They got it in the end but they have until the end of 2013 to use it or lose the rights again. Maybe a "Supra" version with the Subaru flat 6? 
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Cat Terrist posted:I would also love to know how Mazda also has worked out cold fusion and FTL travel. Because that's how likely a sub 1000 kg MX-5 is these days - 2000lbs is 907 kgs for those that dont know moon units. I don't know where people have picked up on the 1780lbs figure for the next-gen Miata, but everything that I've read is aiming for less than the NA's weight of 1000kg with the new 1.4L Skyactiv turbo engine.
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Laserface posted:I have a feeling that there is going to be a lot of potential in this engine, but for it to be a real success in the mod community it will need No it doesnt. In fact I would suggest that would simply gently caress the car up, just like countless retards have hosed RX7's up with V8 transplants that make the car slower and heavier. The only thing required is if Subaru does it's usual thing and make pretty much everything a bolt on replacement from another car from it's range. And that pretty much makes a turbo bolt on a slam dunk. Thank you, tuner dream car goodnight!
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TrueChaos posted:Yeah, I've got an NB. Thought they were talking about 'new' cars is all. Oh yeah, my point was just that even though I owned a ragtop Miata for years, I would have much rather bought a fixed-roof one, but I wouldn't consider the folding hardtop.
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Phone posted:I don't know where people have picked up on the 1780lbs figure for the next-gen Miata, but everything that I've read is aiming for less than the NA's weight of 1000kg with the new 1.4L Skyactiv turbo engine. http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mx-5-miata/mazda-miata-dieting-for-the-future.html Inside Line Article posted:According to a senior insider, Mazda's engineers have been tasked with cutting no less than 720 pounds from the 2,480-pound curb weight of today's Miata in their quest to build a car much closer in character to the 1989 original. In its leanest form, the '89 car weighed 2,178 pounds in U.S. spec.
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Cat Terrist posted:No it doesnt. In fact I would suggest that would simply gently caress the car up, just like countless retards have hosed RX7's up with V8 transplants that make the car slower and heavier. The only thing required is if Subaru does it's usual thing and make pretty much everything a bolt on replacement from another car from it's range. I saw a v8 swap RX-7 a few weeks ago and died a little inside. The dude was insistent that it was awesome too and I just shook my head
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If the next Miata comes in under 2178 I will be shocked; a 10% weight reduction is pretty significant and difficult to achieve, let alone their insane 30% weight reduction target
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Cat Terrist posted:No it doesnt. In fact I would suggest that would simply gently caress the car up, just like countless retards have hosed RX7's up with V8 transplants that make the car slower and heavier. The only thing required is if Subaru does it's usual thing and make pretty much everything a bolt on replacement from another car from it's range. itll definitely be a straight swap for any number of Subaru engines, which is great because this one has torque in a pretty useless spot. I realise that putting those engines in other cars is usually bad, that was kind of the joke. people just do it because they can, not because its a good idea.
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There's a bunch of links to that article, but a year earlier everything was pointing to 1000kg: http://blog.caranddriver.com/report-pegs-next-generation-mx-5-miata-weight-at-2200-pounds/
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Shows exactly their journalistic believeability - 300 kgs from an already small car? That should never have passed the draft report stage and the eidtor should have told them to gently caress off. They wont get it below 1000 kgs. Not these days, gently caress even the Elise over that target weight so how the hell is Mazda going to get close?
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Cat Terrist posted:Not these days, gently caress even the Elise over that target weight so how the hell is Mazda going to get close?
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The idea that the Miata could come anywhere close in weight to a 600cc rolling tax break with 12" wheels is laughable.
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Uh, it's 660ccs, idiot. GOSH. That said, I can't wait for the carbon fiber ND Miata. What's the curb weight on the original Elan?
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Wrar posted:Kei car. They probably set the target for 800 kg and will be perfectly happy if it's 1000 kg. Agreed. If you read that article I linked the editor added a line at the end that they feel the 720+ pound reduction goal was more to push the engineering team than a realistic number. At least Mazda and others are trying now.
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I think it's wonderful that they're trying, but anyone that's actually expecting Mazda to produce a 2000 lb. Miata is going to be very disappointed.
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Piano posted:You don't know mazda like I do. The one that tried its damndest but couldn't make a rotary for the modern world?
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I'm probably far too large to fit, but i sat comfortably in a lancer evo recently, so i guess i'll hold out hope.
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kimbo305 posted:The one that tried its damndest but couldn't make a rotary for the modern world? I was driving home in the RX-8 today and laughed when I thought about this nice, modern car wrapped around a rotary engine that can't help but smell of fuel and/or oil at any given time. I love that drat thing.
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Internet Victory posted:Why is this still being called the FT-86? Isn't it officially now the Scion FR-S? Are they putting out a version with a toyota badge too? Well its off James Mays shopping list now!
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Internet Victory posted:Why is this still being called the FT-86? Isn't it officially now the Scion FR-S? Are they putting out a version with a toyota badge too? Can't wait to see the backseats in there.
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Powershift posted:I'm probably far too large to fit, but i sat comfortably in a lancer evo recently, so i guess i'll hold out hope. Are Lancer Evos really all that small though? I mean, it's based on a four door family car after all.
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