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Bob Morales posted:In my fantasy world of Mac upgrades, the next revision will add the high-res 13" screen from the Air to the Pro, and the 15" Pro gets a 1920x1080 screen.
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So after a great experience with my MBA I am considering switching my desktop to either a Mac Pro or an iMac. I have two decent monitors already, but I could get an iMac + 27" Apple display for the price of the Mac Pro I built. Any thoughts on the superiority of either product? I use my desktop for web browsing, some gaming, and development (java, c++, c# in rdp).
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Nov 6, 2011 22:44
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Ochowie posted:So after a great experience with my MBA I am considering switching my desktop to either a Mac Pro or an iMac. I have two decent monitors already, but I could get an iMac + 27" Apple display for the price of the Mac Pro I built. Any thoughts on the superiority of either product? I use my desktop for web browsing, some gaming, and development (java, c++, c# in rdp). No reason to get a Mac Pro unless you are doing things that need:
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Nov 6, 2011 23:16
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Thunderbolt is going to take care of those last two pretty soon, too.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:18
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Bob Morales posted:No reason to get a Mac Pro unless you are doing things that need: I assume the only thing requiring 6-cores or dual processors is rendering, video, image work which I don't do? So basically the iMac makes more sense it seems like. Just double checking but I can connect a second 27" Thunderbolt Display to the iMac right? Are the screens comparable? I noticed they run the same resolution.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:22
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I'm sorry but a 15" 1080p display would be horrible unless you use magnifying glasses when you compute and like straining to read regular-sized text. Then again bigger numbers = better right? right? 
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Nov 6, 2011 23:22
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Yes you can. They are actually the exact same displays. Small pet peeve I have is that the iMac and the TB display have slightly different heights. They'll be a few inches off when put next to each other.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:23
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Mu Zeta posted:Yes you can. They are actually the exact same displays. Small pet peeve I have is that the iMac and the TB display have slightly different heights. They'll be a few inches off when put next to each other.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:25
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Presumably you could just get a pedestal for the shorter one, right?
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Nov 6, 2011 23:26
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flyboi posted:I'm sorry but a 15" 1080p display would be horrible unless you use magnifying glasses when you compute and like straining to read regular-sized text. Then again bigger numbers = better right? right? Some of us have really good vision. 
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Nov 6, 2011 23:27
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It's not that bad I guess
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Nov 6, 2011 23:30
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Mu Zeta posted:Yes you can. They are actually the exact same displays. Small pet peeve I have is that the iMac and the TB display have slightly different heights. They'll be a few inches off when put next to each other. Bob Morales posted:No reason to get a Mac Pro unless you are doing things that need: So it seems like there really is no reason for me to get a Pro. Any downsides in terms of gaming? I built it with the highest end processor and 8 gigs of ram for reference.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:35
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flyboi posted:I'm sorry but a 15" 1080p display would be horrible unless you use magnifying glasses when you compute and like straining to read regular-sized text. Then again bigger numbers = better right? right? Presumably you can change the DPI settings so on-screen items appear the same size they used to be, just sharper. Edit: By 'you' I mean if/when Apple make this an option I presume they would also update the OS. They obviously aren't allergic to small screens looking good (see iPhone 4). Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 6, 2011 |
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Nov 6, 2011 23:35
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Mu Zeta posted:It's not that bad I guess There is no good reason for them to not be the exact same height. That drives me nuts.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:39
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Bob Morales posted:There is no good reason for them to not be the exact same height. That drives me nuts. They clearly designed it for laptops though especially with it acting as a hub and the magsafe connector on it.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:40
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Mu Zeta posted:They clearly designed it for laptops though especially with it acting as a hub and the magsafe connector on it. Thats how I use mine at work. I actually wish I could adjust the height on it because the thunderbolt 27 is just slightly lower than I would prefer.
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Nov 7, 2011 01:02
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Mu Zeta posted:They clearly designed it for laptops though especially with it acting as a hub and the magsafe connector on it. Still, there's no reason for them to make them different heights.
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Nov 7, 2011 01:06
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Bob Morales posted:Still, there's no reason for them to make them different heights. Yeah it's not like the height matters for a laptop so you might as well make it consistent with your all-in-one that uses the same panel.
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Nov 7, 2011 01:25
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flyboi posted:I'm sorry but a 15" 1080p display would be horrible unless you use magnifying glasses when you compute and like straining to read regular-sized text. Then again bigger numbers = better right? right? It looks fine to a lot of people, certainly better than the default panel in a 15" MBP at the moment. Perhaps they could just split the difference and make the 'high res' panel standard (it's 1680x1050 so close to the same ppi as a 13" Air)
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Nov 7, 2011 01:35
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For anyone who's interested, I just posted for sale in SA-Mart a MacBook Pro from mid-2007 (2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 GB RAM) that has an upgraded Seagate Momentus 500 GB internal SATA drive. It has some issues with the power supply and SuperDrive (and some minor dents), but I'm starting at $500 and we'll see where it goes from there.
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Nov 7, 2011 02:03
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Crossposting this from C/D; Amazon has an open box (full warranty) Thunderbolt i5 21.5" iMac for $1030. I'm not in the market, but it's worth a look for the big discount from MSRP.
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Nov 7, 2011 03:45
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Bitcoin Billionaire posted:Pretty sure you will need an active converter as opposed to the passive one. The one Apple makes is total poo poo, I use this Accell one which I've had no problems with so far. Don't buy an active converter for this, the U2711 has a full-size DisplayPort. All you need for native res is a MonoPrice Mini-DP to DP cable. I personally use this setup at native res with a 2009 13" MBP, and my team uses 2011 15" MBPs with the U2711. Get a couple of the cables, MonoPrice is very cheap and occasionally you get a flaky cable.
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Matlock posted:Crossposting this from C/D; Amazon has an open box (full warranty) Thunderbolt i5 21.5" iMac for $1080. I'm not in the market, but it's worth a look for the big discount from MSRP. Actually cheaper by about $10 if you get it from the Apple refurb store. But then again you pay tax. But then again it's straight from Apple. Also they're $1030, not $1080. Speaking of, when going to see how it compared, noticed every single Air and MBP is out of stock in the Apple Store. I've never seen them out of every single model of portable like that, so I'm wondering if they're adjusting prices.
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Ochowie posted:So it seems like there really is no reason for me to get a Pro. Any downsides in terms of gaming? I built it with the highest end processor and 8 gigs of ram for reference. Actually gaming is a big reason to get a Mac Pro (or a Hackintosh.) The Mac Pro can get a 5870, and will be upgradeable in the future to whatever new GPUs Apple releases, whereas the iMac will be stuck forever with whatever laptop GPU you order it with, presumably the 6970M which is a lot less powerful.
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El Duke posted:Actually cheaper by about $10 if you get it from the Apple refurb store. But then again you pay tax. But then again it's straight from Apple. Also they're $1030, not $1080. Whoops, that's a heck of a typo. WarehouseDeals has been pretty good for me in the past, and given that it still retains the original manufacturer's warranty it's just about on par with the refurb store.
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Not sure where to post this, but if one of you can help me fix this problem, I will love you forever! Out of nowhere my Macbook Pro froze two days ago. I had to do a hard reset and upon rebooting, it will hang on either the grey Apple screen and if it gets passed that, it hangs on the blue screen. I've tried just about everything including: -Resetting PRAM -Tried repairing disk permission (said everything was OK) -Tried reinstalling OS X but the installation just hangs -Tried using DiskWarrior but it wont boot. It just freezes -Tried a few command prompts in single-user mode I have no idea on what I should do from here. Any ideas?
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Your disk may have passed verification but it may still serve up an error code (like 4HDD/11/40000004:SATA(0,0)) after an extended Apple Hardware Test. Try that by holding D at boot, then releasing. Otherwise, I am assuming you haven't reformatted to a clean disk before reinstalling. If you don't have a backup to restore from and haven't reformatted, you could use your current disk as a backup/migration source for a new disk with an external enclosure or some fancy firewire work and another Mac.
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Bob Morales posted:There is no good reason for them to not be the exact same height. That drives me nuts. There is also no reason for them not to be height adjustable 
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Nov 7, 2011 11:06
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~Coxy posted:Actually gaming is a big reason to get a Mac Pro (or a Hackintosh.) Or just bite the bullet and build a Windows PC for gaming. Is there a way of using the Thunderbolt iMacs as a monitor for a generic PC yet? It worked really well on old models with the Displayport.
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blah_blah posted:There is also no reason for them not to be height adjustable Worst Case, nice cut piece of wood that fits right under the stand. Barring that, Wired Magazines work well for this. EDIT: I'm amazed a company hasn't pushed out an aluminium plate the exact footprint of the monitor for just this situation.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:44
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dissss posted:Or just bite the bullet and build a Windows PC for gaming. Or even better, get any console and save even more money. Everywhere I go, I see people using ptier's idea, although I've seen National Geographics, Elles, and Glamours for the same purpose.
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I wonder if this would be close: http://www.macessitywebstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SLIMKEY 
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Bob Morales posted:I wonder if this would be close:
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BlackMK4 posted:I'd hope so, that would mean that the designer actually took a second and thought about what he was doing instead of just tossing some metal in a press. Probably cast aluminum, not pressed 
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Nov 7, 2011 18:28
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They could have at least taken a real photo. The perspectives on that are all sorts of hosed.
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Nov 7, 2011 21:26
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Bob Morales posted:Probably cast aluminum, not pressed D'oh.
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Caged posted:They could have at least taken a real photo. The perspectives on that are all sorts of hosed. The second photo there is a real one. http://www.macessitywebstore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/SLIMKEY-3.jpg
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Binary Badger posted:Or even better, get any console and save even more money. Don't go there. They're different. 
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I'm about to switch from PC to Mac Pro for music stuff (Ableton Live, Kontakt, NI synths etc). I've got 4GB in my Win7 laptop at the moment and that seems to be adequate but having never touched a mac before, is it advisable to spend the extra money for 8GB RAM? Also what are the SSD's like in terms of read/write speed? Am I better off getting a crappy mechanical hard drive and then slapping one of these bad boys in afterwards? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227727 Would that void my warranty?
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Binary Badger posted:Or even better, get any console and save even more money. Lets not get crazy now :p Still interested in the second bit though, is there anything on the horizon that'll let a Thunderbolt iMac (or Thunderbolt display or that matter) work as a target for generic displayport/HDMI/DVI inputs?
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