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Joda posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYGifDDDzrI I don't see anything wrong with that video. Aside from the fact that it looks like this guy installed some sort of "realism" mod where the cars never shift out of first and the tires are made out of ice blocks. Also, the handbrake is permanently on.
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Snowman_McK posted:Getting shot doesn't actually result in you re-spawning at a nearby hospital. Ha, well what should it look like when it's cloudy and rains a lot? i don't get it..
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Nov 7, 2011 09:08
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The fact that the city gets more dreary and depressing when it rains is a neat effect that I enjoy a lot.
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Nov 7, 2011 09:31
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Here's a point that I think is worth remaking every couple years because so many people seem to keep forgetting it: Back in the days of the first Playstation and even arguably the Playstation 2 (and certainly everything prior) there was an actual issue with the quality of the graphics in games, specifically that the lovely graphics made it difficult to understand what was going on and thus difficult to actually understand and play the game. Since the end of the Playstation 2 cycle, though, that just isn't the case for the vast majority of games and certainly isn't the case for modern GTA games (unless you're absolutely pushing the game and can see stuff loading in front of you as you're trying to perform a getaway). It takes absolutely nothing real away from the game that every shot isn't a Kinkade painting, and the time it would take to achieve that almost certainly is better spent on other aspects of the game given how diminishing the returns are on investment in being a modern graphical innovator. Or, to put that another way, I am perfectly happy having a GTA game with merely average graphics when compared with games from a couple years earlier (though I agree that anti-aliasing shouldn't be too much to ask for). Sure, represent cloudy weather by lower brightness and color desaturation, if I get a jetpack in exchange it's all good.
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Snowman_McK posted:Getting shot doesn't actually result in you re-spawning at a nearby hospital. Ahaha are you serious?
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Nov 7, 2011 11:11
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Out of all the things to bitch about in a GTA game, the world going grey when it's rainy is about the stupidest thing ever. I don't pretend to know what rain is like all over the world, but here in England where rain is the norm the world is certainly a hell of a lot greyer. I've always liked the rain effects in the GTA games, especially in GTA 3. In GTA 4 the rain effects don't just extend to the lighting, you'll see characters sheltering themselves by using newspapers as makeshift umbrellas and trying to get off the streets. Lots of nice little touches like that and the road being slick after strong rain even to the point where it affects your handling really add to the atmsophere.
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Nov 7, 2011 13:56
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One thing I loved in GTAIV was the fog. Looked so drat cool and atmospheric.
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Nov 7, 2011 14:04
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Replaying GTA IV for the hell of it. Man, I forgot how good Algonquin looks. Fine job.
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Nov 7, 2011 14:16
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Sure, it gets greyer, but I can still tell yellow from white. In GTAIV, the effect is exaggerated to the point where the only color is from the tail-lights of cars and it can stretch on for hours. The protagonist not wearing ANY brighter colors than brown kinda cements the time-frame it was made in. GTAV looks so much better because it has color on a bright day.
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Nov 7, 2011 14:50
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Mordaedil posted:The protagonist not wearing ANY brighter colors than brown kinda cements the time-frame it was made in.  Look at all these dreary browns.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:20
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I wish the full game (IV) was TBOGT (but with an extended storyline). It felt like they got into their groove with TBOGT, except it was only DLC. If anything I like Luis, just a shame it was DLC. 'I am sorry like a mother fucker.' There's nothing like a 5x car damage modifier, and smashing and rolling cars with the APC.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:44
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Cojawfee posted:the cars never shift out of first and the tires are made out of ice blocks. Also, the handbrake is permanently on. Nah, that's just a Feltzer, those cars are always like that, it's like the Elegy from San Andreas. Those are by far the best drifting cars in their respective games. Also, why are you people complaining about the place looking ugly? It's deliberately made ugly. Hell, Niko tells you that outright sometimes when he runs over a pedestrian - "It's an ugly ceety." I can see Vice City being made to look nice, and maybe some areas of Los Santos in GTA V, but Liberty City is supposed to have this gritty urban decay feel to it, and they do that wonderfully, it's incredibly detailed in its ugliness.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:51
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Haha I've forgotten how visceral GTA:IV feels even though it doesn't seem that long since I played it. Except of course because of the Other Game I've gone back to not caring how many peds I run over and indeed almost go out of my way to hit them because I like the sound they make as they bounce off the bonnet.  Anyway, the graphic quality still stands up pretty well (though obviously that ICE guy's juiced it up even more as an option) and I actually think the dankness when it starts raining adds to it, especially if you're hooning along with "54-46 Was My Number" on the radio. The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Nov 7, 2011 |
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Nov 7, 2011 15:53
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Does that Iceenhancer whatever do anything besides make all the cars really shiny? I see all these pictures of mods that make GTAIV look really good, but I only ever see this iceenancher thing which from videos only makes cars really shiny.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:56
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Cojawfee posted:Does that Iceenhancer whatever do anything besides make all the cars really shiny? I see all these pictures of mods that make GTAIV look really good, but I only ever see this iceenancher thing which from videos only makes cars really shiny.
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Nov 7, 2011 15:58
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How can people say GTA4 looks "decent" or anything? Sure the lack of AA is obvious but other then that a game with so many npc's and vehicles with euphoria behind make it be alive and it looks very very good to me.
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Nov 7, 2011 16:00
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Snowman_McK posted:Getting shot doesn't actually result in you re-spawning at a nearby hospital. It's not about realism dude. The whole night rain turning things gloomy and monochromatic? It makes a film noir feel, it's great. Plus if you don't like the weather, dial 468-555-0100.
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Nov 7, 2011 16:09
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Oh dear god I hate Zeeros missions so much. Especially the RC biplane one. That loving whiny nooooo every time I mess up. The guy who coded that one must have been an rear end in a top hat. Janky controls, limited fuel and fragile health? Seriously, they should have made it an optional to just go over to that other assholes shop and pop him in the loving head for less money.
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Nov 7, 2011 18:18
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SeanBeansShako posted:Oh dear god I hate Zeeros missions so much. Especially the RC biplane one. That loving whiny nooooo every time I mess up. At least they're optional, and the only thing they affect is whether the store can be a money-generating asset.
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Nov 7, 2011 18:30
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Install Gentoo posted:At least they're optional, and the only thing they affect is whether the store can be a money-generating asset. True, it could be worse. Though it is hilarious that CJ willingly puts up with this bull instead of just telling Zeero to grow a pair or capping the other guy.
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Nov 7, 2011 18:32
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I actually got through the Zero missions on PC by using a trainer that would do things like switch the gravity to highly negative and then back to heavy positive which would fling the target trucks into the air and smash em back down to blow up, without having to attack them with the lovely plane thing.
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Nov 7, 2011 18:34
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Install Gentoo posted:I actually got through the Zero missions on PC by using a trainer that would do things like switch the gravity to highly negative and then back to heavy positive which would fling the target trucks into the air and smash em back down to blow up, without having to attack them with the lovely plane thing. You have to land the biplane after all that too still right? It has been years since I last scraped through those missions. gently caress this, I'm gonna go steal stuff from Smokes goons instead.
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Nov 7, 2011 18:36
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I hope GTAV doesn't have those wild difficulty spikes. All the games have have had missions I had to grind against for hours. At least I could use cheatcodes for the old ones, without fearing for my precious achievements. I miss cheat codes in general. I had so much fun in GTA3 with the aggressive pedestrian cheat and "All pedestrians have weapons". It was total anarchy. The downside was that I saved while doing this. It made the rest of the game quite a bit harder. (The final mission is impossible, as the chick at the dam you have to save gets shot up by the suddenly too aggressive henchmen. I had to start completely from the beginning...)
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Nov 7, 2011 19:27
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You can use the simple native trainer for the PC version, It isn't perfect but it adds a lot of options.
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Nov 7, 2011 19:29
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The nice thing about a lot of GTA4's missions is that if you play them enough times some idiot driver will save the day. Edit: By the way, it's an absolute crime that I can't get a game of chopper vs. chopper going in TLAD on Live. I had some fun times in GTA race and Mafiya work over the weekend though. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Nov 7, 2011 |
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Nov 7, 2011 19:32
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Of all the things to bitch about in regards to GTAIV, the graphics ain't one of them.
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Himuro posted:Of all the things to bitch about in regards to GTAIV, the graphics ain't one of them. GTA IV had beautiful graphics but the art design could be pretty dull at times, honestly. I get the whole theme of urban decay, but you gotta leave the brown behind sometimes.
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Nov 7, 2011 20:12
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I beat the RC biplane mission in one try on the Xbox version because they patched the fuel. The mission after it too with his RC battle is awesome.
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I didn't really think GTA IV was that brown. The color pallet used seemed to fit pretty well. Yeah, there were brownish areas, but it fit how those areas should look. There was plenty of color in quite a lot of the city. That being said, Los Santos in the new trailer looks amazing.
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Iacen posted:I hope GTAV doesn't have those wild difficulty spikes. All the games have have had missions I had to grind against for hours. At least I could use cheatcodes for the old ones, without fearing for my precious achievements. AFAIK only Gay Tony has any kind of achievements blocked during storyline missions by cheats. Because cheats disqualify uploading a rating, but I don't believe they disqualify the offline ratings for mission performance (you get one achievement/trophy at 85% on all missions, and a second at 100% on all missions). But you can go back and run the missions without cheats to qualify. Besides that here's the achievements that get blocked by cheats (all of them are still gettable, you need to save, quit, and then reload to have them unblocked for the next play session): 267-555-0100 - remove wanted level 359-555-0100 - Spawn the police helicopter Blocks the Walk Free achievement which requires you to escape a 6 star wanted level . It also blocks One Man Army which is where you have to stay alive at 6 stars for 5 minutes 362-555-0100 - Restore armor 482-555-0100 - Restore health, armor, and ammo 486-555-0100 - Best weapons 486-555-0150 - Worst weapons Blocks Cleaned the Mean Streets, which is completing every vigilante mission in the police computer. So cheat freely while you're doing anything except trying to go for these 3 achievements. It's easy to get One Man Army by the way, simply get onto the subway tracks in Broker early in the story , then walk into Algonquin and down into the hobo living rooms beside the subway tracks, you get an automatic 6 star wanted level and the cops don't come down there. Just stand around for 5 minutes and bam.
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Orgophlax posted:What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g lovely music aside, wow.
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Install Gentoo posted:Cheats Now I almost feel like giving GTA IV another chance. I even bought that pack where the main game and the two expansions were collected. And I've never played Gay Tony, as I was just so burned out on gritty, east-european whiners that I just couldn't be arsed. Sadly this will have to compete with all the other games that come out right now.
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Iacen posted:Now I almost feel like giving GTA IV another chance. I even bought that pack where the main game and the two expansions were collected. And I've never played Gay Tony, as I was just so burned out on gritty, east-european whiners that I just couldn't be arsed. Gay Tony is the best of the bunch, seriously give it a try!
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MZ posted:Gay Tony is the best of the bunch, seriously give it a try! Indeed, Gay Tony does have some of the less gritty spirit of the previous GTA games.
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I think GTA: Lone Star would be an awesome setting. Set it in "Lone Star" state during the late 70s, early 80s, You could have parodies of Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Austin as the main cities Get Larry Hagman to voice one of the main employers/antagonists One of the missions could be in the Alamo parody where you have to hole up in it while it's stormed my a Mexican gang You could have a shootout in an oilfield on top of an oil derrick, a sniper mission that you do from a book depository So much potential in this...
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Nov 7, 2011 22:41
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Orgophlax posted:What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g holy poo poo
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Orgophlax posted:What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGIs-NiX-g That video uses a completely unrelated texture mod which is the biggest contributor to its wow-factor, I'd say. ICEhancer itself is purely shader related. Adds more specular maps, adds more bloom, adds some lighting effects, etc.
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Dear Rockstar:GTA Wiki posted:The parachute in the game also featured a glitch which could be exploited to allow the player to ascend instead of descend, remaining in the air for an indefinite amount of time. This has been patched. You see this? Don't do this. It's a glitch, sure, but it's one that you have to actively exploit to get anything out of it. TBOGT is a blast, but being able to abuse your parachute to help you fly through the air like some gravity-defying superman sounds like a riot. Don't remove fun from your game!
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Icenhancer is bullshit. More bloom a d colour correction doesn't constitute better graphics...
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Songbearer posted:Dear Rockstar: I used that glitch to fly from rooftop to rooftop in multiplayer, sniping everyone I saw. In fact I think being a dick to people was the only thing I ever did in GTA4 multiplayer.
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