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Wandering Knitter
Feb 5, 2006

Meow

Transmogrifier posted:

I thought the exact same thing when I first heard about it. I'm really into mythology and totem animals was something I remember reading about. That's what I thought. :sigh:

There was a guy I was nuts over my first year in college that would always wear wolf shirts and wear this same wolf pendent/ring. He explained that he felt connected to the wolves and they were his spirit animal.

Looking back he was probably waiting until the second date to show me his furry porn. :sigh:

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The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



I combed through my private journal for my final moments on Anthro Asia, since I was not thrown out immediately after the skype interrogation. It was apparently a thread on photos of real life furries and I posted this.



http://www.scottybunny.com/

(A more recent pic:
)

THEN they banned me. I don't understand, do furries hate the fabulous???

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


How Does I Touched Self
or I'm a Sex-God Succubus but I'm Afraid of Cocks
or I Wish I Was Making This poo poo Up

When in the comics/anime shop a couple streets away from the apartment, Kat and I browsed the whole store whilst Denise made a beeline for the "adult" books on the top shelf that were shrink-wrapped. I meandered over to see what it was she was so excited to find. Apparently this was the next one in a series she was following that she hadn't been able to find anywhere in our hometown. She made a big deal about how hot it was, how it was totally explicit and omg it's porn. It was some story or other about two skinny effeminate boys loving each other. Cool, whatever, I can be into that sometimes. So when we're back home, being a red-blooded female I ask to flip through it.

Flip, flip, flip. All talk, no gently caress. Oh, finally! Some loving! I pause to examine it. The artwork was in a fairly unimaginative CLAMP style with retarded long arms, huge hands and exactly two different faces. For the entire scene despite two guys apparently getting it on everything was faded out before the end of the frame, blocked with legs or hands, and there wasn't a cock , penetration, or reaction shot in sight. Just two barely naked dudes holding each other with some sound effects going on. For like six pages this scene went on and it was all the same.

"Well, poo poo, this is boring," I said, continuing to thumb through the pages with ever lessening expectation.
"What are you talking about? It's totally hot."
"It might be if I could actually see what's going on. This is gay porn, right? Where are all the dicks?"
"Um..."
"It's not 'totally explicit porn' without there even being a couple cocks around. I can't even tell these guys are guys. They don't act like dudes and they don't gently caress like dudes, they may as well be aliens!" I said and laughed. Denise began to glower.
"Yeah, I guess," she muttered. What, she was pissed off I didn't like her porn? Tough poo poo. I'd put up with her crap for years and she'd been here with me and Kat a week already at this point and hadn't showered once even though it was 30 degrees Celsius every day. She smelled and I was pissed. She was fair game as far as I was concerned.
"Seriously, I'm now imagining these guys are actually banging via a complicated set of intertwining tentacles sprouting from a slit. There is nothing in this book to deny this."
"Yeah, it would be better with dicks but that's all there is."
"I can go on the internet and find some in about four seconds."
"Yeah..." she bleated quietly, like a lamb in the jaws of a wolf.
"Okay," I said. "Seriously, how can you even get off on this? There's nothing to wank to. It's like if I took a bunch of pictures of people hugging, cut it off at the waist and said they were actually loving. In fact that's exactly what this is!"

And that was the end of that conversation, or so I thought.

"Well..." she said in that tone that over the years I had learned heralded one of her bouts of crazy bullshit, and I shut the book, letting it fall on my stomach.
"Well, what?"
"I don't wank to it," she said, a note vaguely reminescent of indignance creeping into her voice. "I don't wank at all."

"Denise anyone our age who says they don't masturbate is full of poo poo. Look, if this stuff is what gets you going then that's okay."
"No I really don't masturbate. I don't... know how."
"What?"
"I don't know how!"
"You don't know how to masturbate."
"No."
"Not even once?"
"No. I tried, it just... Doesn't do anything."
"You tried to masturbate, and failed? You just touch yourself until it feels good. Jesus, what?" I covered my face with my hand and laughed. Denise was what, 21 at the time? I literally couldn't believe what I was hearing.
"What does it feel like?"
"What does what feel like? Wanking it? It feels awesome, that's why people do it. I'm not really going to go into deep science with you about this, but it isn't hard and I'd really recommend it to you. It might make you relax a little."
"So how do you do it?"
"Look it up or something... Man so if you don't know how to get yourself off, why do you read porn? Like what do you do?"
"I just read it... And I get warm and feel full of energy. And after a while I just put the book down and try to forget about it."
"The gently caress?" This was way too much for me to handle. Things were starting to snap into place, like an ancient stone puzzle whose pieces were beginning to align to form a picture. In this case, the picture was of a giant dick. "So, you know how guys do it, right? Haven't you ever seen pictures or videos of girls doing the same thing? Do you get the differences?"
"I don't looking at dicks..."
"I thought you were into guys."
"I am. I just... They kind of scare me."
"What scares you? Guys? I've told you before, they are just people. You just have to talk to them and get to know them, and --"
"No... Guys' dicks scare me."

Okay, gently caress the stone puzzle starting to form an image of a giant dick. It was now forming a giant image of... bull turds.
"Denise, how can you be the reincarnation of an ancient succubus who specialises in male pleasure when you're afraid of a dick and don't know how to get yourself off?"
"... I wanna go get some food."
"Right. Here's your book."

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC
:psyboom:

I really wish I could post just that macro, but seriously, what the gently caress. It's like those crazy people on FetLife that brag about all their hosed up fetishes but probably haven't even had sex with anything besides their left hand.

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


Uglynoodle I would feel so much better if I had never read this thread, and I mean that in a completely complimentary way. Don't stop with this horrible gold until there's nothing left.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
I can never hang around smelly people for any extended period of time. It still boggles my mind how this girl simply doesn't seem to care about basic hygiene, since stinky grossness is the most immediate thing that repels people.

She really needs to like, get a makeover sometime. A full-on shower, a nice scrub with decent shampoo, makeup and nice clothes. Maybe once she realizes how nice it feels to look marginally pretty she'd put more effort into taking care of herself.

BTW does she brush and floss regularly? Because I can imagine that if she doesn't scrub up she probably doesn't care about keeping her teeth from rotting out of her skull either.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

uglynoodles posted:

"No... Guys' dicks scare me."
OK, of all the WTFs in this thread... WTF? The world's not short of idiots attached to dicks, and some of said idiots are legitimately scary, but dicks themselves? So scary she can't even handle pics of them?

Mr. D Bewildering
Mar 24, 2010

8^y

uglynoodles posted:

"Denise, how can you be the reincarnation of an ancient succubus who specialises in male pleasure when you're afraid of a dick and don't know how to get yourself off?"
"... I wanna go get some food."
"Right. Here's your book."

This is probably my favorite entry so far. I love seeing her fortress starting to crumble as she realizes that her brain lacks the logical capabilities to keep up with her imagination.
It really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I really think you caught her in a moment where she was expressing legitimate concerns about her actual life rather than her imaginary one.

uglynoodles posted:


I am now imagining an anatomical diagram of a vagina in place of the letter.

Mr. D Bewildering fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 7, 2011

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Runcible Cat posted:

OK, of all the WTFs in this thread... WTF? The world's not short of idiots attached to dicks, and some of said idiots are legitimately scary, but dicks themselves? So scary she can't even handle pics of them?

I imagine people who have had certain traumatic experiences probably would have such an aversion to dicks. That said, Denise doesn't sound like she'd ever had one of those experiences.

Mr. D Bewildering
Mar 24, 2010

8^y

Install Gentoo posted:

I imagine people who have had certain traumatic experiences probably would have such an aversion to dicks. That said, Denise doesn't sound like she'd ever had one of those experiences.

I dunno man. Astral beings have approached her in the night to make astral babies with her :colbert:

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Haha, so her boy love porn isn't even porn? I have regular comics that are more explicit than that.

She's a pretty terrible succubus if she doesn't like the cock.

I'm not half the artist that you are, Uglynoodles, but I hope some fan art is okay.

Nessa fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Nov 7, 2011

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

And Denise has been like this without ever getting into something like Sonic or Homestuck?

ZanderZ
Apr 7, 2011

by T. Mascis

Mak0rz posted:

I know people like Denise (living habits-wise, not delusional anime princess-wise) that live on their own. I don't know how they do it because they live in utter filth and sustain themselves on instant Mac & Cheese and bologna sandwiches, but they do it somehow.

I've been refusing to maintain a friendship with former friends who used to live with a variation of Denise. Honestly, the fact that they accepted her filth says that they were willing to live in said living conditions. Ergo, I no longer wish to associate myself with them. Guilty by association I suppose.

It might be harsh of me, but I could give a poo poo less. My friends put up with hoarding, unchanged cat litter, rotting food, a thick layer of vomit, urine and excrement stuck to the floor behind the toilet. The girl in question was a college flunkout with no job. She was lying to her parents by telling them she was still in school in order for them to pay her rent. She never showered and I know for a fact that she would just chew gum instead of brushing her teeth. She sat around watching her roommate's TV and when that roommate moved out, she resorted to her computer. Once her computer was neglected to the point in which the screen was smashed, she tried to use her other roommate (and my former friend's computer.)

She would ask my former friend if she could use her computer for *insert important task* for just a few minutes and then spend the entire afternoon watching movies on it while eating chicken wings in her bed. (Not HER bed, her roommate's bed)

I asked my friend what she planned to do about it. When she responded with "I don't know," I decided that I didn't wanna be friends with someone who put up with that level of bullshit.

I had a heart to heart with her and it came down to me telling her, "I think your disgusting by association. The fact that you're willing to live with that filth says you're just as gross as your lovely roommate. Either get her out now, or I'm never coming back here again."

Last I heard, she got drunk at another one of my friend's apartments, passed out in his bathroom and pissed herself.

Other interesting notes...

-Weight Loss Diet = Lean Cuisine for breakfast/lunch and Domino's chicken wings with extra blue cheese for dinner.

-Would get blackout drunk and scream at someone if they scared her cat. Her cat was literally scared of everything. If you stood up and walked to the freezer to grab a beer, the cat would dart away and she would scream at you for scaring her cat.

-Saved hundreds and hundreds of ketchup packets. You could look in any drawer or cabinet and find at least 30 ketchup packets. (It reminds me of the beads. I'm pretty sure her former roommates and my former friends are still uncovering ketchup packets despite the fact that she moved out months ago.)

-Bitched about how she can't find a guy and has no idea why. (Fat, depressed, hoarder, no life, no interests, no sports, games, hobbies, education, alcoholic, etc. Never left her room.)

-Lived through her roommate. Always talked about her roommate and what her roommate did. You would start talking about yourself and what you did last weekend and she would interrupt so she could tell you what her roommate did last weekend. This information typically included what guy(s) she slept with and how much of a slut she is. (Tee hee! Even though she has told me it hurts her feelings when I call her a slut, I don't actually mean she is a slut. I'M JUST KIDDING/I TELL IT LIKE IT IS, BECAUSE I'M BOLD AND FIERCE!!)

One time, I set my friend up with roommate. They liked each other and I was talking to roommate about friend.

Me: "So you think you're gonna bang him?"
Roommate: "I dunno, should I? I kinda wanna!"
Me: "Haha! gently caress his brains out!"
Horder/Slob: "HEY! I GET TO DECIDE WHO ROOMMATE FUCKS AND DOESN'T gently caress!"

-Hated fake people, liars and hypocrites when the best way to describe her was/is "A fake, lying, hypocrite"

ZanderZ fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 7, 2011

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Level Slide posted:

And Denise has been like this without ever getting into something like Sonic or Homestuck?

Sonic I can see the problem with, but Homestuck? Has MSPA undergone some major changes since Problem Sleuth?

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Sonic I can see the problem with, but Homestuck? Has MSPA undergone some major changes since Problem Sleuth?

Is 'the fans range from sane to completely loving batshit and creepy' a change?

rangergirl
Jun 3, 2004
A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer
I have a friend who is like a sex crazed version of Denise with less anime , better hygine and more social skills. We're older than the OP so anime wasn't really around much when we were in high school. What was around was TMNT and my friend was really into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Leonardo was her favorite and she told me few times that she was going to lose her virginity to him. She painted a huge portrait of Leonardo and had it hanging on her bedroom wall for years. I suspect there was some long, lonely nights where Leonardo got a little tongue action. Later Leonardo was dumped for Simba from the Lion King.

She too had a magical land from a parallel universe where all our friends were different people. I was a woodland archer who communed with animals, there was also a guy who was in reality a Hermaphrodite who could change sexes at will and seduce anybody with magic sex powers.

Now she is married with kids and lives with her husband and her asexual master/boyfriend who likes to lock her up in dog kennels and whip her. She swings and is in various BD/SM clubs. I once went to a cookout at her house where the guest list consisted of 2 couples she swings with, her master, a guy that she is "master" of, 2 transexuals and her mother.

Pork Lift
Oct 9, 2007

Winner of the 2012
:dong: Highway Traffic :dong:
Prediction Razzies

Yeah the comic is one of those things thats not really actively bad, but is popular enough that all the most terrible people on the internet are really goddamn into it. It still has the over the top complexity of problem sleuth but the characters are a little bit more developed and have actual dialogue so people can develop more of an affinity with them.

I would not be surprised if someone somewhere thinks they have been raped by one of the trolls.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

trollspukinginabucket.avi

I never had the heart to actually watch that video.

Absolute Lithops
Aug 28, 2011

After one long season
of waiting, after one
long season of wanting

rangergirl posted:

Later Leonardo was dumped for Simba from the Lion King.
Adult Simba or child Simba?

AlistairCookie
Apr 1, 2010

I am a Dinosaur

rangergirl posted:

Now she is married with kids and lives with her husband and her asexual master/boyfriend who likes to lock her up in dog kennels and whip her. She swings and is in various BD/SM clubs. I once went to a cookout at her house where the guest list consisted of 2 couples she swings with, her master, a guy that she is "master" of, 2 transexuals and her mother.

:psypop: Seriously--I don't know who to feel more sorry for, her kids or her mother. Probably her kids...how exactly do you explain to the little ones that this is Daddy and this other guy is Mommy's dom?

Also, late to this party, but my husband works with a guy who named his kid Leto. As in Leto Atreides, from Dune. <shakes head> I love Dune and all, but c'mon now.

And Uglynoodles, this thread is solid gold as far as I'm concerned. I love your pictures, and I love the stories. As a package, it is glorious.

rangergirl
Jun 3, 2004
A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer

Absolute Lithops posted:

Adult Simba or child Simba?

Adult Simba, who was then dumped for MacGyver and some dude from ElfQuest (I think. ElfQuest could have been earlier)

rangergirl fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 7, 2011

Sir Prancelot
Mar 7, 2008

:h:Knight of the
Rainbow Table.:h:

rangergirl posted:

Now she is married with kids and lives with her husband and her asexual master/boyfriend who likes to lock her up in dog kennels and whip her. She swings and is in various BD/SM clubs. I once went to a cookout at her house where the guest list consisted of 2 couples she swings with, her master, a guy that she is "master" of, 2 transexuals and her mother.
I can see the problems with every other item on the list, but where's the problem here? :psyduck: I'd invite my (crazy, scary) mother to my cookout, and I'm not sure I even want to touch the transsexuals thing.

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


Probably because, given the list of company mentioned, it was probably a fetishistic appearance rather than an appearance of people who happen to be that way.

And come on. Inviting your mum to see your doms and subs and pets or whatever, people who engage in your fetishes with you?

Wojtek
Oct 17, 2008
I wish I had experienced people like this.

The closest I got was in college by a guy who called himself Skippy the Demon. He was my friend's roommate freshman year and he plastered his side of the dorm with naked Sailor Moon drawings, including the underside of the shelf and ceiling above his bed :gonk:

He was the kind of guy that would hiss or screech at just random people. Not sure if he had Tourette Syndrome or was just weird.

He would always, always, draw a horrible anime dragon on every whiteboard of every class he left and sign it "Skippy was here." We used to get a kick out of erasing them as he watched, seething.

Once we came into a room where he had drawn one and we drew a huge cock going into it's mouth. This was in a weekly lab and it had miraculously stayed up all week until the next week. He was absolutely frothing at the mouth as he erased it.

rangergirl
Jun 3, 2004
A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer

Sir Prancelot posted:

I can see the problems with every other item on the list, but where's the problem here? :psyduck: I'd invite my (crazy, scary) mother to my cookout, and I'm not sure I even want to touch the transsexuals thing.

The transexuals were fine, I don't have a problem with them. It was just...surreal. Her mom is very religious too, so I'm pretty sure she thought God was going to smite us all down right then and there because there were "men" wearing dresses (I'm pretty sure she didn't know who the rest of those people were)

edit: Her family didn't know about her hobbies at this point. She has told them about the swinging and BDSM since then and it went shockingly well.

rangergirl fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 7, 2011

Transmogrifier
Dec 10, 2004


Systems at max!

Lipstick Apathy
I know Denise is a cow, that you were probably young when this occurred, and I'm probably taking it a little personally, but I actually felt a little bad for her when you made fun of her for having never masturbated. I'm in my mid-twenties and until I got together with my girlfriend last December, I had absolutely no sex drive. It's really not that uncommon and I think a reaction like that is why people like her and myself are really self conscious about revealing this poo poo to our partners because people put so much emphasis on sexual rites of passages at an early age that it's really hard to tackle it later on.

Granted, I know your reaction was also based on her "hurr I have so much sex with my astral boyfriends and husbands" and I'm not trying to call you a bad person or anything, uglynoodles. Just in a twisted kindred spirit kind of way, I feel bad for her on that little matter.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

Transmogrifier posted:

Granted, I know your reaction was also based on her "hurr I have so much sex with my astral boyfriends and husbands" and I'm not trying to call you a bad person or anything, uglynoodles. Just in a twisted kindred spirit kind of way, I feel bad for her on that little matter.

Denise is the kind of person to use "sexually assaulted by imaginary animes" as an excuse to not do something when asked by someone who was actually sexually assaulted. She knows what sex is, reads sexual material and pretends to be a sexual person without knowing what the hell sex is.

I would say that's way different than someone who just didn't have a sex drive.

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


Transmogrifier posted:

I know Denise is a cow, that you were probably young when this occurred, and I'm probably taking it a little personally, but I actually felt a little bad for her when you made fun of her for having never masturbated. I'm in my mid-twenties and until I got together with my girlfriend last December, I had absolutely no sex drive. It's really not that uncommon and I think a reaction like that is why people like her and myself are really self conscious about revealing this poo poo to our partners because people put so much emphasis on sexual rites of passages at an early age that it's really hard to tackle it later on.

Granted, I know your reaction was also based on her "hurr I have so much sex with my astral boyfriends and husbands" and I'm not trying to call you a bad person or anything, uglynoodles. Just in a twisted kindred spirit kind of way, I feel bad for her on that little matter.

I don't make fun of people who just aren't into it. I know there are people who've never felt the desire, who don't feel the need and just don't have the drive, and that there are asexual people out there. There is also nothing wrong with inexperience and the way I reacted to Denise is not the same way I would react to someone else. Denise was not any of those things. Just as how I refused to call her a him when she wanted me to. It's not out of disrespect for transgenderism or alternative sexuality or whatever you want to call it. It's conversely out of respect for those things that I refused to define her as part of them. She had no idea what she was talking about with regards to the first one, and with regards to the second one -- I don't even know.

In short, I took the piss out of Denise because of reasons.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I combed through my private journal for my final moments on Anthro Asia, since I was not thrown out immediately after the skype interrogation. It was apparently a thread on photos of real life furries and I posted this.



http://www.scottybunny.com/

(A more recent pic:
)

THEN they banned me. I don't understand, do furries hate the fabulous???

I would so go to see this, if I ever got the chance.

Transmogrifier
Dec 10, 2004


Systems at max!

Lipstick Apathy

uglynoodles posted:

I don't make fun of people who just aren't into it. I know there are people who've never felt the desire, who don't feel the need and just don't have the drive, and that there are asexual people out there. There is also nothing wrong with inexperience and the way I reacted to Denise is not the same way I would react to someone else. Denise was not any of those things. Just as how I refused to call her a him when she wanted me to. It's not out of disrespect for transgenderism or alternative sexuality or whatever you want to call it. It's conversely out of respect for those things that I refused to define her as part of them. She had no idea what she was talking about with regards to the first one, and with regards to the second one -- I don't even know.

In short, I took the piss out of Denise because of reasons.

No I understand, which is why I included that I don't think you're a bad person or think any less of you. The situations are definitely different between her and I but I still can't help but feel just a little bad for her. She's still a godawful train wreck, and it's a good thing she's out of your life.

Morzox
Oct 29, 2011

FEAR FOR YOUR SOUL

Mors Rattus posted:

Is 'the fans range from sane to completely loving batshit and creepy' a change?

This is true of anything that has fans.

You could literally say this of anything and odds are you'd be correct. People on SA range from completely sane to loving batshit and creepy, for instance. The bigger the fandom, the wider that ocean becomes, and thus the more diverse. You get people who not only enjoy the material but create fantastic fan-material, while conversely you get people who take the fan-troll idea way too seriously. As far as I know, though, most of the HS fandom knows not to do any of that stuff in anything but jest. It doesn't help the reputation any, though.

As for why not any of that stuff, she seems too stuck in the past, with her Sailor Moons and Naruto or whatever. The fact that she only manages to find really really obscure poo poo is a bit of an odd factor, though. I'm sure there's plenty of more mainstream yaoi bait out there she could snarf up without having to travel across the country to get it.

Speaking of old mainstream stuff, I'm sure of at least one piece you could expose her to to hilarious results.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Morzox posted:

Speaking of old mainstream stuff, I'm sure of at least one piece you could expose her to to hilarious results.

But that would involve talking to Denise. You see the dilemma involved, don't you?

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC
While she's at it she can link a bunch of images from the PYF Dicks thread (extremely NSFW because of dicks on sexy guys).

I'll admit I was a bit weirded out when I had my first real encounter with a dick, but I got over it. Dongs are awesome.

Dongs dongs dongs.

Croisquessein
Feb 25, 2005

invisible or nonexistent, and should be treated as such
What I don't get is how she can be so anime-sex obsessed and then get confused and embarrassed when real sex is mentioned. I get she has an idealized view of sex gleaned from comics and video games, so she can't deal with the reality of it, especially given her shut-in lifestyle, but to be so unfamiliar with her own physical response to such things is odd. And if she isn't interested in getting off, all she has to say is, "I enjoy viewing it but I don't masturbate to it" or maybe "I'm into the emotional aspects of it" which would be a perfectly valid response. Some people don't masturbate, that's fine, but "I don't know how" is just bizarre in light of her interests.

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH

I knew someone who claimed to be pansexual, and loved the porn. She, being overweight and socially inept, never had been on a date. Though I believe she lived in a rural area to boot, and that one of the few reasonable things about this story. When she went to college, she met a guy that actually wanted to date her, and later tried to have sex with her. While I only heard her end of the story, it wasn't rape, just her being... her. She did eventually break up with him, in a huge poof of drama.

Later on, she's still drawing dicks and anthros but now she's 'asexual'. I completely understand true asexuality (used to think I was asexual myself, and researched it) but I think she's just using it as an excuse.

I also knew of another girl who wanted to be called by male pronouns, but that was just a phase. She probably did it because she refused to pretty herself up, and had androgynous features to begin with. Acted like a poorly written gay guy in a sitcom. Again, this was just an attention whoring phase, not truely feeling androgynous. I know a few people who are, or at least genderfuck, and it's totally different... and last more than a couple of months.

Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan
So... did the Astral Rape not involve an Astral Penis? Perhaps the Astral Rapist has evolved beyond the need for such a pedestrian appendage. Or maybe Astral Dongs are more friendly looking - pink and fluffy like a soft, engorged feather duster - so as not to trigger her dick-induced fear?

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
Jesus H.

I just marathon-read the Penn State Scandal thread in TFF and now this. I genuinely think my brain has been slightly overloaded by all this, I don't know how to process all the crazy and hosed up-ness and depressing and tragic and disgusting aspects (mixed in with some hilarity in the case of this thread). I literally feel :geno: right now. It's like my brain has reformatted itself or something.

In middle school, I actually had some Denise-ish tendencies (the fanfiction-writing kind, not the believing it's real and all these hot anime babes want my cock in another dimension kind) and I'll never forget, I think it was in like, 8th grade or something when I had an argument with a buddy of mine over something in the fanfic in terms of "creative direction" or whatever, like I got REALLY pissed at him, and I finally went "What the gently caress am I DOING?" and snapped out of it.

I still watch the occasional anime, one series in particular I really enjoy, and okay, I'll think to myself at times "Y'know I kinda can relate to this mindset this character is in only without the fights and poo poo" but I hardly take it seriously. I know more than one friend, however, both IRL and online, that really hasn't fully snapped out of it and it makes me sad. None of them are Denise level, but a couple of them are pretty close, and sometimes I worry for them. I mean I've gone out on dates and had contact with actual women and stuff, and I go out of my way to be as social as possible even in logistically/physically difficult circumstances (which I won't get into here) and often wish it was easier for me to get out. That's how I know I'm "out of the trap". I like interacting with real live people. I like getting clean and all dressed up in a suit when business calls for it. It's empowering and it feels nice and all.

I guess I'm just posting this to add my perspective to both the people who had/have "their Denise" and to a much lesser extent, the people who almost WERE her. I started out laughing and thinking it was hilarious, and then I just got sadder and angrier. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm still morbidly fascinated and hope the stories continue, but Christ, it's a car wreck I can't look away from.

I'm glad you and Kat got out "unscathed", noodles, but good lord, Denise's tale is both infuriating and sad, in addition to the hilarity. Oh and for the record, it totally is possible to be both mentally ill and an rear end in a top hat (I think Denise is both) and waaaaay back on the first page, there was a guy who equated this thread to laughing at someone in a wheelchair. As someone who always has and always will be in a wheelchair, gently caress that. It's nowhere near the same thing, and I HATE when people draw that comparison unjustly, probably like how, I dunno, people with genuine Dissociative Identity Disorder hate those who make up "other personalities" to be attention whores, or like noodles's feelings on Denise's "rape" (that part is still the worst to me).

Good lord, the stories in this thread have made me feel better about myself. And they've also made me glad I branch out my writing occasionally just to keep varied and sharp and hone different skills and all that. :unsmith:

Goddamn this got long, sorry guys. :kiddo:

EDIT: Realized I had a really unfortunate 2 word omission in here.

SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 7, 2011

Tasty and Delicious
Jun 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I'm trying to figure out the sympathetic part in this. I can imagine Denise starting up fantasy relationships after her mom left, and having a busy dad probably left her without emotional support. Is she really unhappy though? She sort of seems like a megalomaniac which isn't really so bad in the grand scheme of things. If her biggest personal problems are not having beads or the latest softcore boy love manga or fighting off hordes of imaginary guys lusting after her, she sounds like she has a sweet deal going on with that mental illness of hers.

Is she lonely or does she desire real friendships like most normal people?

Tasty and Delicious fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 7, 2011

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Tasty and Delicious posted:

I'm trying to figure out the sympathetic part in this. I can imagine Denise starting up fantasy relationships after her mom left, and having a busy dad probably left her without emotional support. Is she really unhappy though? She sort of seems like a megalomaniac which isn't really so bad in the grand scheme of things. If her biggest personal problems are not having beads or the latest softcore boy love manga or fighting off hordes of imaginary guys lusting after her, she sounds like she has a sweet deal going on with that mental illness of hers.

Is she lonely or does she desire real friendships like most normal people?

Well I know it personally makes me kind of sad (different from sympathy though not by much I guess) because it always bums me out when people seem content to blissfully piss away opportunities that life gives them, especially as someone who, to an admittedly minor extent, has to do extra work to live as close to "normally" as he can.

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Strange Matter
Oct 6, 2009

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Yaoi is really a weird genre. It almost feels disingenuous to call it it "gay porn" because it caters almost exclusively to women and teenage girls. It's sort of insidious really-- it's sex without sex, and it allows an outlet for girls who may feel intimidated by the real deal because it's comprised of androgynous human-like creatures grinding against each other. They get to ignore the primal realities of erotica (penises all up in your face) while avoiding the moral quandary of just looking at women because they are technically male even if they have no male traits.

It'd be relatively harmless if it didn't lead to stuff like Denise, who has been so addled by the material that she's lost her grasp on healthy human sexuality.

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