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Chairman Capone posted:So they kicked out David Yates for Ben Affleck? Ben Affleck is actually a surprisingly good director so its not completely shocking. His two movies have been both critically and commercially successful.
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I really like the results when Affleck puts on his director hat, but I also won't blame him if the production starts to go south and the final product ends up an ambitiously flawed mess. Either way, should be interesting. Wikipedia still has Yates slated to direct, but it also mentions the possibility of it being a multi-movie endeavor. So basically like LotR. Return of the Stephen King!
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Oct 24, 2011 00:46
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One thing the feature film version of The Stand won't be able to top is Tom Cullen. Bill Fagerbakke was born to play that role.
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Oct 24, 2011 17:49
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Fascist Funk posted:One thing the feature film version of The Stand won't be able to top is Tom Cullen. Bill Fagerbakke was born to play that role. M-O-O-N, that spells "wasted talent"
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Oct 24, 2011 19:39
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muscles like this? posted:Ben Affleck is actually a surprisingly good director so its not completely shocking. His two movies have been both critically and commercially successful. I just thought it was odd that Yates would be taken off the project, since by all accounts he was the guy who was actually pushing for it in the first place.
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Oct 24, 2011 19:50
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Chairman Capone posted:I just thought it was odd that Yates would be taken off the project, since by all accounts he was the guy who was actually pushing for it in the first place. Gone Baby Gone and The Town, though both flawed films, proved that Affleck can direct mature, character-driven movies with ensemble casts on relatively small budgets ($19 million and $35 million, respectively); The Town also showed that he is rather adept at action sequences. Smart move by Warner Bros. if this rumor is true.
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Oct 25, 2011 07:00
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Two of my favorite subjects growing up were time travel and the JFK assassination, - so I for one am pumped for 11/22/63. Can't believe it's so long though.
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Oct 31, 2011 19:07
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Whenever I read about 11/22/63, I can't help thinking of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2bnJvwQyk
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Oct 31, 2011 19:32
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Chairman Capone posted:I just thought it was odd that Yates would be taken off the project, since by all accounts he was the guy who was actually pushing for it in the first place. Yates was going to direct and Steve Kloves was going to write. However given the success of Potter the pricetag for the two of them allegedly comes to $20-$30 million, plus whatever other deal they manage to get out of them. Presumably Affleck will be co-writing and Directing and will come at a much much cheaper cost. It should be noted though that Affleck hasn't signed anything. He's just at the top of the wanted list by Warners. It's more than likely just negotiation to get Kloves/Yates to lower their fee.
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Oct 31, 2011 20:46
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Junkenstein posted:Whenever I read about 11/22/63, I can't help thinking of this: I actually can't help thinking about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TZpgCLN9Cc
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Nov 1, 2011 03:14
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With all this talk of the underage sex in IT, I'm not sure why King gets so much flack for it but then George R. R. Martin, who loves to apparently pepper Game of Thrones with underage sex, doesn't. And Martin is so loving graphic with his depictions of it, it makes me a lot more uncomfortable (especially since the people having sex with those underage are typically much older). Anyway, I finished Under the Dome, and while I enjoyed much of it, I felt like it just dragged on forever. The finale was very apocalyptic, which was interesting, and the buildup was good too, but it took forever to get there, and a shitload of red plot herrings that never seem to go anywhere or have any purpose. I just wanted to see more about the Dome and its cause and less about the internal struggle that is essentially meaningless.
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Nov 3, 2011 18:07
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Dan Hollis posted:Two of my favorite subjects growing up were time travel and the JFK assassination, - so I for one am pumped for 11/22/63. Can't believe it's so long though. I just pre-ordered it for my Kindle - delivered on Tuesday. $17 for me, but it's Stephen King, time travel, and JFK, so I have to.
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Morpheus posted:With all this talk of the underage sex in IT, I'm not sure why King gets so much flack for it but then George R. R. Martin, who loves to apparently pepper Game of Thrones with underage sex, doesn't. And Martin is so loving graphic with his depictions of it, it makes me a lot more uncomfortable (especially since the people having sex with those underage are typically much older). I will defend Martin in that his works men and women are married as soon as a women had had her first menstruation. It is normal for those "kids" to have sex after a marriage. There is no rape I can think of that involves a child. As for King, IT takes places in modern American society where underage gang bangs are looked upon as the borderline child porn it is. There are still problems with Martin and his young character having sex, but it is not nearly as detailed as other characters.
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Just a little taste of 11/22/63. Don't worry, no spoilers:quote:"Yeah, but what if you went back and killed your own grandfather?" That's how you solve the grandfather-paradox when you're Stephen King  I'm 33% in (on my Kindle) and I'm absolutely riveted so far. Even better than Under the Dome and Duma Key! But I adore science fiction and time travel, so ...
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Yeah, he seems to be telling a story in this book; in Under the Dome it seemed like he was trying to do a character study of an entire city, which was just not interesting at all, because none of the characters were interesting. Halfway through 11/12/63, doesn't even feel like I've been reading all day. 
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Quad posted:Yeah, he seems to be telling a story in this book; in Under the Dome it seemed like he was trying to do a character study of an entire city, which was just not interesting at all, because none of the characters were interesting. Halfway through 11/12/63, doesn't even feel like I've been reading all day. I'm halfway through it myself, and holy poo poo, it's loving good! He even does the foreshadowing in a way that makes sense narratively and is effective at making me anticipate things! I can't put it down.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I'm halfway through it myself, and holy poo poo, it's loving good! He even does the foreshadowing in a way that makes sense narratively and is effective at making me anticipate things! I can't put it down. I am (according to my Kindle) 14% in to it and it's really gripping so far.
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Nov 9, 2011 08:43
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Hedrigall posted:Ugggh I asked for this for Christmas so I can't read it until then... In the same boat, brother. I remember feeling the same way last year when this thread was reacting to Full Dark, No Stars a month before I could get my hands on it. Santa will pull through for us.
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brylcreem posted:I'm 33% in (on my Kindle) and I'm absolutely riveted so far. Even better than Under the Dome and Duma Key! But I adore science fiction and time travel, so ... Ok, I'm done. It helps not to have a job, lol ...  Anyway, this book has zoomed into the Top 5 of Stephen King books for me. All you people waiting for Christmas or whatever, don't! Trust me. You'll want to read this. So good!
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The ending is good. It feels earned and it's not too fast-paced or anything.
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I'm just kind of peeved that the Kindle version is like $17.
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Yeah I'm only like four percent in but the writing is really tight and encouraging. Glad to hear I'm not wasting my time reading it
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Just finished it. I'd put it up there with The Shining. It's definitely top five, and the best thing he's written in at least 20 years. And the ending is his best ever. I know that's not saying much, but it's really, really well done. I could barely put the book down.
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Bit over 10% in, really digging it, and glad to hear several people say it holds up. Wow. Who'd have expected the Kennedy assassination book to be the one where King gets his groove back?
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I just won a copy of 11/22/63 from StephenKing.com! Can't wait to read it, especially after hearing such good things about it.
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I hated the premise when I heard it, but I'm 10% or so through the book thanks to you guys' recommendations, and it's flowing really, really well. Maybe he took a sniff of coke again before writing this or something because it reminds me of his old voice.
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HappilyDeranged posted:I just won a copy of 11/22/63 from StephenKing.com! Can't wait to read it, especially after hearing such good things about it. Didn't know there was a "StephenKing.com" but I found on the front page in the rotating feed an ad for "Bag of Bones" with Pierce Brosnan on Dec 11 on A&E. I knew they where making a TV movie of it, but I did not realize it was coming this soon. I loved this book, anyone else looking forward to it?
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Finished it, I actually didn't like the ending until after I had thought about it for a while, but it's definitely a great ending, and more thoughtful than what he usually does. Ultimately this is going to be in the top 10 for me, maybe top 5.
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Cityinthesea posted:Finished it, I actually didn't like the ending until after I had thought about it for a while, but it's definitely a great ending, and more thoughtful than what he usually does. Ultimately this is going to be in the top 10 for me, maybe top 5. I really liked it at first, but the more I thought about it the better it was. I realized that the only thing he struggled for in the past and got to keep was his love for Sadie. Sure, she ended up never knowing about it, thanks to the reset, but it's still real to him. He lost her either way, whether or not things were reset, so in the end, he still got to have his time with her and also see that she lived happily, for a long time. It was really bittersweet and fairly subtle.
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I feel like such a fanboy, but, 20% or so through, I have to admit that I smiled when we returned to some of the IT kids. I got happy as soon as I found out 50s Derry was a big part of the story, and am glad I wasn't spoiled.
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Boxman posted:She also shot at them with a rifle as they were leaving. So, I finally finished this. I guess I need to read more or faster or something, because the entire thing took me a couple of months. I liked it, but I'm really curious what was in the original, cut down version, because I don't feel like this book needed to be as long as it was. I know the intro (written by King) mentions virtually everything with The Kid got cut, but does anyone know of anything else? Also, I'm gonna agree with Local Group Bus from pages ago and say that the most enjoyable parts was just poo poo falling apart around Flagg's ears. I think Glenn's reaction was perfect because it mirrored the readers' feelings about Flagg; through the entire book, we don't know a lot about Flagg, but holy gently caress he can summon wolves to eat people, he must be a badass! Then, the first times we really spend time in his territory, bad poo poo just keeps happening, and you start to get the idea that Flagg isn't all that. Anyway, I still haven't read The Road, and I have it on my shelf, but boy I just don't think I can do another post apocalypse book right now, and I definitely have to lay off King for a minute. Maybe I'll give The Gunslinger a shot after I read whatever it is I'll read next.  Edit: I'm not putting all this in spoilers, because I think people were using them for my benefit anyway. Thanks, for that, thread.
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Boxman posted:So, I finally finished this. I guess I need to read more or faster or something, because the entire thing took me a couple of months. I liked it, but I'm really curious what was in the original, cut down version, because I don't feel like this book needed to be as long as it was. I know the intro (written by King) mentions virtually everything with The Kid got cut, but does anyone know of anything else? Fran's confrontation with her mother, the prologue with Campion, and the epilogue with Flagg are the ones I remember right offhand.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Fran's confrontation with her mother, the prologue with Campion, and the epilogue with Flagg are the ones I remember right offhand. Another way to look at this; the TV Miniseries was actually a pretty good representation of the original cut. I think the only thing that changed heavily from that was when Larry met Nadine (New York, rather than wherever it was they were), and they took out the forgettable character (read: I can't even remember her name) that he meets in New York. The rest is pretty dead-on from the original cut of the book.
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Labratio posted:Another way to look at this; the TV Miniseries was actually a pretty good representation of the original cut. I think the only thing that changed heavily from that was when Larry met Nadine (New York, rather than wherever it was they were), and they took out the forgettable character (read: I can't even remember her name) that he meets in New York. The rest is pretty dead-on from the original cut of the book. That part was really bizarre and I didn't see the point of it in the book. Larry meets some older lady, has sex with her constantly and then she kills herself. You could cut that part out and his breakdown until he meets Nadine still makes perfect sense.
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Labratio posted:Another way to look at this; the TV Miniseries was actually a pretty good representation of the original cut. I think the only thing that changed heavily from that was when Larry met Nadine (New York, rather than wherever it was they were), and they took out the forgettable character (read: I can't even remember her name) that he meets in New York. The rest is pretty dead-on from the original cut of the book. Her name was Rita. I think they could do the movie in two LONG films. The Stand Part One: Captain Trips - Have the first film's antagonist be the plague itself and the apoctalyptic scenerio the survivors find themselves in. End it with them coming together at Mother Abigail's house. Flagg can show up in nightmares and to save Lloyd to introduce him to the audience so they know what is coming, but save it for the second part. The Stand Part Two: The Rise and Fall of Randall Flagg - Focus on the Flagg as the antagonist and his rise in Vegas. A lot of the good guys rebuilding society can be done in a gap between the films and isn't directly necessary to move the plot forward and eats up a lot of pages in the book. In the hands of a good writer and director I think it can be done well. Whargoul fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Nov 13, 2011 |
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muscles like this? posted:That part was really bizarre and I didn't see the point of it in the book. Larry meets some older lady, has sex with her constantly and then she kills herself. You could cut that part out and his breakdown until he meets Nadine still makes perfect sense. The old woman helps explain his constant questioning of himself and his greater reluctance to leave Stu behind, but it's nothing that special. And the constant amazing sex with the old woman was pretty weird. I gotta say, I would have liked not having the circle opens and closes chapters. I feel like having the flu come out of nowhere, rather than seeing patient zero (sorta) would have been more ominous. It wasn't as though we're left with any doubt that it's a government thing anyway, unless all those parts got cut too. And even if there was doubt it was a bio weapon, I sorta like the mystery. The circle closes was just dumb - Flagg just disappearing during the big climax was a great "you haven't heard the last of me!" moment if I've ever read one.
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