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Wow. The default MegaMek is amazing... 35 Linebackers vs 1 UrbanMech. How can it possibly need to take any time at all on the Linebackers calculating "Target Urbanmech. Is weapon in range? Fire."
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:[e]Sorry if that bit about my computer seemed condescending. It wasn't meant that way - my computer didn't chug at all. I suspect I could have played Dead Space 2 with the graphics all up while MM was grinding through its decisions. It did, however, take something like half an hour to arrive at that first shooting round. I think I can get that down with some AI settings. This isn't rocket science - move towards target, pull trigger. Even 8/8 pilots can figure that out. Protip: individual initiative.
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Nov 8, 2011 05:55
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Okay, here's the trick. If you turn on Individual Initiative, Megamek runs infinitely faster with a bot. The reason is the bot tries to select the best unit to move every time it gets to move, so an increase in units provides an exponential increase in CPU demand. I've played Megamek against a bot with 50+ units on a really lovely laptop using this trick. So basically, if you're fighting a bot, always use Individual Init.
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Nov 8, 2011 05:56
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I was using the force-bot-to-use-individual initiative setting. I shudder to imagine what it would've been like without it. Anyway, the battle was over after three rounds. Though it took the Derpbacks a lot of tries, the Streak SRM proved beyond a shadow of a doubt it's the absolute best weapon to give to somebody who doesn't have a goddamn clue what he's doing in the cockpit of a BattleMech. Urbiezilla didn't manage to take anybody with him, though every time he fired, he scored a Direct Blow and hosed someone's armor up.
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MJ12 posted:Okay, here's the trick. If you turn on Individual Initiative, Megamek runs infinitely faster with a bot. Well, that's news to me. Thanks for the information.
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I can hardly wait for the first turn. This looks like such a fun scenario, with a probability of disaster. 
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Nov 8, 2011 18:18
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Just waiting on our alternate now (and if AtlantisMantis times out, Shadow Gamer will be up next, and then Guitar_Hero (who I know is around)). I just want to give AtlantisMantis a little time, so he has until tomorrow before Shadow Gamer comes up. And yes, Shadowdragon, I'm skipping you. You wanted Luthien, you've got Luthien. Mwahahaha (but no, really, you'll have fun with it).
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PoptartsNinja posted:Just waiting on our alternate now (and if AtlantisMantis times out, Shadow Gamer will be up next, and then Guitar_Hero (who I know is around)). I just want to give AtlantisMantis a little time, so he has until tomorrow before Shadow Gamer comes up. I remember, and I'm cool with that. I pushed for Luthien hard, after all. Heck, I didn't even think I'd be in line to get it, but I pushed for it 'cause I thought it needed to be seen. Anyway, as regards Urbanmechs and Linebackers, I've discovered that with the deck sufficiently stacked, a lone Urbie can and will annihilate an arbitrary number of Linebacker-Ds. Specifically, I made it a Mixtech Urbanmech with a Null Signature System and Chameleon LPS, 3/5/3 with Clan XL engine, Clan ERPPC, and an ATM-3 with one ton of HE ammo. It had a 0/0 god pilot with all possible advantages, and every positive quirk on itself and both of its weapons, including Improved Cooling Jacket and a Battle Computer. The enemy team were 8/8 retards, gimped by having a "Ballistic" gunnery specialty (which penalized missiles and lasers, their only weapons,) with every negative quirk on their 'mechs and weapons. They never managed to actually fire off a shot, while the Urbie just bounced around, squeezing off cERPPC shots and foomp-foomping with its ATMs, throwing kicks at every opportunity. Heat was an issue, I had to dial back the ERPPC's output a few times, but with that rule that you can dial back an energy weapon's output to dial back its heat, I never had to actually pass on firing it. So there is something that 35 sufficiently retarded Linebackers can't kill: a sufficiently godlike Urbanmech.
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Nov 8, 2011 19:04
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:I remember, and I'm cool with that. I pushed for Luthien hard, after all. Heck, I didn't even think I'd be in line to get it, but I pushed for it 'cause I thought it needed to be seen. This doesn't seem like a very useful test. If it's a case of "I just wanted to see if it could be done" then that's one thing, I'm not saying you can't do that. But anything where you have to stack things that far in one direction is effectively a useless test IMO. It doesn't tell anyone anything of any note.
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Nov 8, 2011 20:32
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PoptartsNinja posted:Just waiting on our alternate now (and if AtlantisMantis times out, Shadow Gamer will be up next, and then Guitar_Hero (who I know is around)). I just want to give AtlantisMantis a little time, so he has until tomorrow before Shadow Gamer comes up. These long waits for that one player before every mission gave me some time to think... Wouldn't it be prudent not to wait until a battle is completely over to inform the next four or five people in line that their turn might soon be coming up? I realize that it's not possible to know exactly how many players you will need before a vote is decided, but it's not like you're wasting a lot of your and their time just by requesting a short 'Yes, I'm still alive.'-confirmation! That way, a single weak link in the chain would be less liable to bring the entire thread to a screeching halt for days on end.
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Fraction Jackson posted:This doesn't seem like a very useful test. If it's a case of "I just wanted to see if it could be done" then that's one thing, I'm not saying you can't do that. But anything where you have to stack things that far in one direction is effectively a useless test IMO. It doesn't tell anyone anything of any note. It was more or less just to see if it could be done. It was amusing, but I don't think I'd trust an AI-controlled Urbie to get the same results. It'd probably overheat and have an ammosplosion.
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Nov 8, 2011 20:47
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From what I've seen, the AI avoids overheating like the plague.
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Gimmick Account posted:That way, a single weak link in the chain would be less liable to bring the entire thread to a screeching halt for days on end. Except I go in the order people appear on the front page; and while I know you goons don't enjoy waiting, I'm not going to take it on myself to herd cats because I know the moment I try I'm going to get assaulted by "well, I was out of town / whatever and you should've waited waaah!" crybaby antics. I also don't know how the fights are going to go in advance, and I can't always anticipate when they're going to end (because Battletech, and dice fickleness could cause a 'certain victory' to drag on over 5-10 extra turns) so it's not as though I can really send out E-Mails before they end. I know the waiting sucks, but I really don't have any way to be entirely certain whether a goon is active in advance. If you're not watching your PM / E-Mail / This thread and don't know your turn's come and gone, tough poo poo. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Nov 8, 2011 |
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Nov 8, 2011 20:56
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Quick and possibly stupid question; is it too late to give an email address to be put on the list of future mechwarriors?
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The list is still open. VVV You're already on my list, I just haven't updated the front page yet. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 8, 2011 |
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Nov 8, 2011 21:10
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PoptartsNinja posted:The list is still open. Might as well throw me up there. I have PMs.
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Nov 8, 2011 21:25
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Awesome! I'd like to apply then.
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Nov 8, 2011 21:39
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I've been on the fence about it since my situation with my computer is always a little touch-and-go but things should now be set and I definitely won't be disappearing on the thread without a good amount of fair warning. Sign me up for Mechwarriorin' too I should probably warn everyone I have undue fondness for  physical combat that overrides what normally passes for whatever tactical sensibility I might normally have. What sensibility I do have is unpolished and based solely on the obvious bits about the game's principles. And DFA.But on the topic of Headpunching, will TSM get invented in the AU timeline any time soon?
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Just finished reading the thread and would like to be on the list as well if I can, forsterjustin@yahoo.com.au! I just tried a map with similar forces and actually lost quite badly, with some awful, awful luck. It should be interesting to see how the players go about it
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Nov 8, 2011 22:49
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You know, I might as well also sign up. Getting to blunder my way through a scenario sounds like a pretty good time. I have pm's.
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Nov 8, 2011 22:53
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PoptartsNinja posted:Except I go in the order people appear on the front page; and while I know you goons don't enjoy waiting, I'm not going to take it on myself to herd cats because I know the moment I try I'm going to get assaulted by "well, I was out of town / whatever and you should've waited waaah!" crybaby antics. I also don't know how the fights are going to go in advance, and I can't always anticipate when they're going to end (because Battletech, and dice fickleness could cause a 'certain victory' to drag on over 5-10 extra turns) so it's not as though I can really send out E-Mails before they end. Oh, it was just a suggestion; I don't think anyone's truly unhappy about it, seeing as this thread has come to double as a generic BattleTech discussion center whenever things slow down. I have one question concerning the player list. * denotes a received e-mail address, while (X) means that the player has taken their turn. What is the significance of (R), (S) and (T)?
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Gimmick Account posted:Oh, it was just a suggestion; I don't think anyone's truly unhappy about it, seeing as this thread has come to double as a generic BattleTech discussion center whenever things slow down. I forget what the (R) stands for, since I'm not using that on my personal master list. It's probably indentical to (S). (S) is a 'pass.' Meaning, the player has let me know they're not around or won't be able to be a pilot. They get first priority if or when they return. (T) is a time-out. They missed their turn and didn't tell me they were away or busy or dead. They do NOT get any special treatment if they come back, even if they ask nicely. They missed their opportunity to play.
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PoptartsNinja posted:The list is still open. Cool. Add me to the list too, then.
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Nov 8, 2011 23:42
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I know nothing about battletech besides what I've read in this thread, can I play? 
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Nov 8, 2011 23:55
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I know nothing about battletech besides what I've read in this thread, can I play? Absolutely. BattleTech is the gift that everybody should get a chance to enjoy.
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Nov 9, 2011 00:00
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Well then sign me up! I have PMs. EDIT: that could have been bad if i didn't catch that my last 's' was capitalized
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Nov 9, 2011 00:02
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Could I also get added to the list? I have some experience with Battletech, mainly due to this thread (Which also was a big prompter of my registration). Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Nov 9, 2011 00:17
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I don't think I ever actually signed up either, so I'll do that. I have plat, so PMs should work.
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PoptartsNinja posted:I forget what the (R) stands for, since I'm not using that on my personal master list. It's probably indentical to (S). On that note, I have a brand new Clan XL Monitor for my computer, so I'm up and running again with half again the screen real estate and half the heat. So you can take me off the reserve.
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Nov 9, 2011 00:21
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I thought I signed up months ago, but I didn't. Please sign me up, I've got PMs.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I know nothing about battletech besides what I've read in this thread, can I play? You haven't experienced gaming joy until you have headshot the other guys heavy mech with your tiny little light scout. The tears Battletech produces are joyful and nourishing.
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Nov 9, 2011 03:10
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Might as well get in on this new wave of sign-ups. I have PMs.
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Nov 9, 2011 03:19
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Been lurking this thread awhile, might as well get in on the fun. email is cordwell@gmail.com
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Nov 9, 2011 03:22
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Please toss my name on the list as well! email is seekerwithin@gmail.com
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Nov 9, 2011 04:04
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Welcome to the list of pilots everyone! May you headcap before being headcapped.
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Remember, that mech is worth more than you. So try to die horribly screaming loudly with the least amount of damage to the important part (the mech). On the flip side, aim for the meat, save the metal. :mw2mercs:
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I know nothing about battletech besides what I've read in this thread, can I play? You can play, and part of why this thread is here is to spread the joy of Giant Robots Punching Each Other. I know there's a ton of folks here who would love to rant for as long as needed on game tutorials for those who need it!
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Nov 9, 2011 04:26
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I guess it's time for me to add my name to the pilot list. I have E-mail soylentpudding@gmail.com.
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Hey why not, I'll add my name to the list. e-mail: Brendon_Cain@hotmail.com
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Eh, I've been lurking long enough. Add me to the list. Adarkm07@yahoo.com
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