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Attention Deficit
Nov 25, 2006
fine til you came along..

White Rock posted:

Sorry, you mean that he stole it, sold it and then bought an identical console?

Pretty sure what was bought was in the sentence above :)

quote:

his newly released volume of Gundam: SEED

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Tasty and Delicious
Jun 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

White Rock posted:

Also thanks for posting all the stories. Usually stories about pathetic pepole just make me depressed but Denise and Brian just seem so horrible i have no ill feelings for them.

Seriously, you're a saint for putting up with them.

Denise is the product of parents separating and not having any emotional support. Imagine living with your mom and dad who both love you to death, and suddenly your mom leaves inexplicably for reasons that would take you decades to understand fully. Supposedly you were the world to her and now she's just gone and your dad is also gone working the whole day and you don't have any friends.

I think Brian is just an rear end in a top hat.

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!

Attention Deficit posted:

Pretty sure what was bought was in the sentence above :)

Durr, yay for reading comprehension!

Tasty and Delicious posted:

Denise is the product of parents separating and not having any emotional support. Imagine living with your mom and dad who both love you to death, and suddenly your mom leaves inexplicably for reasons that would take you decades to understand fully. Supposedly you were the world to her and now she's just gone and your dad is also gone working the whole day and you don't have any friends.

I think Brian is just an rear end in a top hat.

I would wager more on nature then nurture in her case. Growing up in a dysfunctional family doesn't make you crazy in my experience, being crazy does. As far as i know simply social isolation doesn't cause you to start thinking "i got astrally raped by a ghost".

But hey, lets not turn this into psy 101, more stories!

Sir Prancelot
Mar 7, 2008

:h:Knight of the
Rainbow Table.:h:

White Rock posted:

As far as i know simply social isolation doesn't cause you to start thinking "i got astrally raped by a ghost".
But it can make you think "If I say I was astrally raped people will pay attention to me/do what I want." Not being properly socialized can gently caress you up good.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now
Why do people care so much about nature or nurture? We pity Denise because her craziness is nurture, while we shun Brian's because his is nature? Crazy is as crazy does. Whether someone is naturally crazy or made crazy by their life circumstances doesn't change that they are crazy, and it shouldn't affect how we view craziness.

Sir Prancelot
Mar 7, 2008

:h:Knight of the
Rainbow Table.:h:

EccoRaven posted:

Why do people care so much about nature or nurture? We pity Denise because her craziness is nurture, while we shun Brian's because his is nature?
I hate them both, I've just been given more insight as to why Denise do like she do.

RalAegidius
Nov 12, 2004

It's a crow. In a box.

EccoRaven posted:

Why do people care so much about nature or nurture? We pity Denise because her craziness is nurture, while we shun Brian's because his is nature? Crazy is as crazy does. Whether someone is naturally crazy or made crazy by their life circumstances doesn't change that they are crazy, and it shouldn't affect how we view craziness.

No, but it does affect who to blame. "Nature" people are all about "this is the way people are born, and they can't help it" vs. the "Nurture" of "if we raise a child in the following way, they will be happy and normal".

A belief in one or the other is often at the root of arguments about homosexuality, mental illness, and other "aberrant" behavior. It's the basis of the concept of choice in what sort of person one becomes. After all, if being gay is "nurture", then it can be cured or prevented. :downs:

Personally I think it's a bit of both for most things, perhaps one in greater proportion than the other.

GreyLondon
Jul 4, 2010
I just plowed through this entire thread. Uglynoodles, it baffles me how much you could put up with this, but then I remember you were a teenager.

I knew a girl once called Cassandra, who was introduced to me to some anime and jrock/pop yaoi obsessed girl who was going out with a creepy 21 year old weirdo at 14. She met him at a monthly anime club at a library that I'll later address. Cassandra was convinced she was soulbonded with the greasy green character from the band called the Gorillaz, and was completely obsessed with them. She would call me and read things from her stupid Gorillaz book, while I would put down the phone for twenty minutes, then pick it up again to hear her continuously babble on about this Gorillaz guy's dick. She also pulled the same 'oh he raped me in my sleep with his spectral dick' bullshit as Denise did, but it was still rage inducing as I was sexually assaulted before. The only thing I could do was laugh in her face, which I still relish today. This was during 8th grade.

I would go to these monthly anime club screenings, full of creepy dudes and people just lying on the floor and fondling each other in open daylight. Keep in mind that the creepy, 24 year old dudes would cuddle up and fondle 15 year old girls. I didn't see Cassandra for grade 9, but ran into her during the summer break before grade 10 at these screenings. She was ~bi~ now, and we hung out at mcdonalds while the other anime club people (that still came for over a year) went to the park nearby. So we walk there, and when we arrive, their 'party' was ending.

People were half dressed hanging around tents they pithced up, furry tails were everywhere, and the girl I mentioned dating the creepy 21 year old dude as well, getting her face and necked licked by a creepier older guy. This is when she was 15. I am convinced that these people had held some sort of anime orgy in a corner of a public park, and I'm glad I dodged that bullet.

stegoceras
Oct 21, 2011

Numb's no good, but it sure beats the hurt

White Rock posted:

:confused:
I think she meant he pawned it to get money to buy what he wanted (the actual item in question eludes me at the moment)
e: wow i am the slowest

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


GreyLondon posted:

This was during 8th grade.


:staredog:

This entire thread provokes that reaction, but holy hell.

legsarerequired
Dec 31, 2007
College Slice

Radio! posted:

What did the girl think of this? Was it like perfectly normal for her? :psyduck:

View this trailer for Pamela's Prayer, a film about the importance of "purity before marriage." There are subcultures where young girls are obligated to attend chastity balls and just don't know of anything else. I've actually seen this film; I got a VHS copy from a friend I met in college who was home-schooled by very religious parents.

One of the most suspenseful scenes is Pamela going on a date with a boy at her high school. The movie plays screechy horror music at the end of the date, while Pamela decides whether or not she should kiss the boy and forsake purity before marriage. The camera just cuts between Pamela staring at this cute boy, and Pamela's father praying desperately for her to go back home.

The movie ends with a wholesome Christian wedding, and my friend pointed out to me that the camera cuts away right before the kiss between the newly married husband and wife. She said that the kiss is not depicted on-screen because the two performers playing husband and wife were not married, and therefore the producers of the film would have a moral problem with telling two unmarried people to kiss.

My friend is actually very well-adjusted and has moved past her upbringing, and pretty much no one ever suspects anything is remotely unusual about her homelife. I wonder what it is that makes some people grow out of the crazy and overcome dysfunctional home lives, while others just never escape it.

legsarerequired fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Nov 11, 2011

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
Keep in mind that almost all teenagers who are raised with that stuff either don't believe in it at all, or think things like "Well, oral sex doesn't actually count as sex, and it doesn't count if he pulls out before he comes." That, or they end up getting married to the first person they are in a serious relationship with, just so they can have sex.

Sir Prancelot
Mar 7, 2008

:h:Knight of the
Rainbow Table.:h:

Konstantin posted:

That, or they end up getting married to the first person they are in a serious relationship with, just so they can have sex.
Which is exactly what happened to Chris. Knew a girl six months, dated her two weeks, married her in his mom's backyard and immediately knocked her up.

She looks like a bridge troll.

Tempest815
Oct 7, 2006

FALCON PUNCH!!

GreyLondon posted:

:staredog:

Well that's truly loving weird. Why is it that these people put on so many layers of weird?

Also I'm afraid to ask but since I just saw it... Does Denise get into that weird weird rear end Animegao thing? Cause I cant totally see that.

Spitball Trough
Jul 25, 2011

ZanderZ posted:

Ugh, how does it come to this? Seriously, my friends and I used to look up to the high school kids at the skate park that smoked pot and drank Jolt. Is this what happens when you don't have a group of punk skaters to look up to?

Seriously! Emotionally disturbed young adolescents are supposed to break things and steal things. The intenet really does ruin everything! Between all these stories and those drat kids rioting at Penn State, I am starting to think that all the drat kids today are just a huge disappointment.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Transmogrifier posted:

Hippo

:raise:

No Henriette stories for awhile, I'm afraid, and sorry the last one was such a downer. I'm moving this weekend and it's going to be a pain in the rear end for me for a few days.

On another note, I met one of my best friends the other day who knew Henriette. He found her scribd site and apparently, Dr Henriette describes herself as an International Youth Personal Development Guide, and has apparently given seminars and personal coaching to young troubled people internationally. She also practises alternative medicine, which... I suppose that's where her "Dr" credentials come from?

She's also writing a book linking the mind and disease which, really, I don't know what else to say.

EDIT: Further digging showed these as her credentials

M.D. (A.M.), Ph.D (A.M.), LL.B (Hons)

The LLB (Hons) is the law degree. I don't know what those other two are? Are they easy to obtain?

The Saddest Rhino fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Nov 11, 2011

YJT
Oct 27, 2010

The Saddest Rhino posted:

:raise:

No Henriette stories for awhile, I'm afraid, and sorry the last one was such a downer. I'm moving this weekend and it's going to be a pain in the rear end for me for a few days.

On another note, I met one of my best friends the other day who knew Henriette. He found her scribd site and apparently, Dr Henriette describes herself as an International Youth Personal Development Guide, and has apparently given seminars and personal coaching to young troubled people internationally. She also practises alternative medicine, which... I suppose that's where her "Dr" credentials come from?

She's also writing a book linking the mind and disease which, really, I don't know what else to say.

EDIT: Further digging showed these as her credentials

M.D. (A.M.), Ph.D (A.M.), LL.B (Hons)

The LLB (Hons) is the law degree. I don't know what those other two are? Are they easy to obtain?

They're degrees in alternative medicine which can be had quite easily and cheaply online after a token examination completed over a leisurely few weeks with the entire internet at your disposal. Or possibly just bought outright since what's the difference really?

DarkArchimedes
Feb 26, 2008
Kubla Dong

The Saddest Rhino posted:

:raise:

No Henriette stories for awhile, I'm afraid, and sorry the last one was such a downer. I'm moving this weekend and it's going to be a pain in the rear end for me for a few days.

On another note, I met one of my best friends the other day who knew Henriette. He found her scribd site and apparently, Dr Henriette describes herself as an International Youth Personal Development Guide, and has apparently given seminars and personal coaching to young troubled people internationally. She also practises alternative medicine, which... I suppose that's where her "Dr" credentials come from?

She's also writing a book linking the mind and disease which, really, I don't know what else to say.

EDIT: Further digging showed these as her credentials

M.D. (A.M.), Ph.D (A.M.), LL.B (Hons)

The LLB (Hons) is the law degree. I don't know what those other two are? Are they easy to obtain?

That's Doctor of Medicine (Alternative Medicine) and a Doctoral degree, also in Alternative Medicine. I have no idea what kind of university confers those degrees, but they're essentially saying 'I am a doctor of acupuncture and draining toxins out of your feet'. I will admit I haven't looked into it fully, so it's possible that there are viable degree plans from respected places for these degrees, but presumably these are not institutions one would want a practicing doctor to have on their credentials. At least unless you want some voodoo and a worse case of whatever it was you had.

(Not bashing alternative medicine for anyone concerned, but more the wacko people who take it way too far)

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

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Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Oh, ok, I didn't know there are actually degrees and PhDs for alternative medicine. This is what is described as part of her practice:

1) Holistic Living
2) Alternative Medicine (Specialising in Mind-Body Medicine)

I have to admit not having any idea what these things are.

The Triumphant
Sep 2, 2011

Yeah, I've seen Robocop. Bitches, leave.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Oh, ok, I didn't know there are actually degrees and PhDs for alternative medicine. This is what is described as part of her practice:

1) Holistic Living
2) Alternative Medicine (Specialising in Mind-Body Medicine)

I have to admit not having any idea what these things are.

Well they aren't anything, so hey, you already know.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

The Triumphant posted:

Well they aren't anything, so hey, you already know.

Not quite, just dilute to a mathmatically insignificant level.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

legsarerequired posted:

View this trailer for Pamela's Prayer, a film about the importance of "purity before marriage." There are subcultures where young girls are obligated to attend chastity balls and just don't know of anything else. I've actually seen this film; I got a VHS copy from a friend I met in college who was home-schooled by very religious parents.

One of the most suspenseful scenes is Pamela going on a date with a boy at her high school. The movie plays screechy horror music at the end of the date, while Pamela decides whether or not she should kiss the boy and forsake purity before marriage. The camera just cuts between Pamela staring at this cute boy, and Pamela's father praying desperately for her to go back home.

The movie ends with a wholesome Christian wedding, and my friend pointed out to me that the camera cuts away right before the kiss between the newly married husband and wife. She said that the kiss is not depicted on-screen because the two performers playing husband and wife were not married, and therefore the producers of the film would have a moral problem with telling two unmarried people to kiss.

My friend is actually very well-adjusted and has moved past her upbringing, and pretty much no one ever suspects anything is remotely unusual about her homelife. I wonder what it is that makes some people grow out of the crazy and overcome dysfunctional home lives, while others just never escape it.

Pamela's Prayer?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Oh, ok, I didn't know there are actually degrees and PhDs for alternative medicine. This is what is described as part of her practice:

1) Holistic Living
2) Alternative Medicine (Specialising in Mind-Body Medicine)

I have to admit not having any idea what these things are.

You've got a degree in baloney!

YJT
Oct 27, 2010
While the evidence for the benefits of alternative medicine are sketchy at best, not all forms of it are as dumb as homeopathy and it would be possible to have a legit degree in it that required actual work and knowledge.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

YJT posted:

While the evidence for the benefits of alternative medicine are sketchy at best, not all forms of it are as dumb as homeopathy and it would be possible to have a legit degree in it that required actual work and knowledge.
For the things that work, at what point are they no longer "alternative medicine" and become, simply, "medicine"?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

legsarerequired posted:

View this trailer for Pamela's Prayer, a film about the importance of "purity before marriage." There are subcultures where young girls are obligated to attend chastity balls and just don't know of anything else. I've actually seen this film; I got a VHS copy from a friend I met in college who was home-schooled by very religious parents.

One of the most suspenseful scenes is Pamela going on a date with a boy at her high school. The movie plays screechy horror music at the end of the date, while Pamela decides whether or not she should kiss the boy and forsake purity before marriage. The camera just cuts between Pamela staring at this cute boy, and Pamela's father praying desperately for her to go back home.

The movie ends with a wholesome Christian wedding, and my friend pointed out to me that the camera cuts away right before the kiss between the newly married husband and wife. She said that the kiss is not depicted on-screen because the two performers playing husband and wife were not married, and therefore the producers of the film would have a moral problem with telling two unmarried people to kiss.

My friend is actually very well-adjusted and has moved past her upbringing, and pretty much no one ever suspects anything is remotely unusual about her homelife. I wonder what it is that makes some people grow out of the crazy and overcome dysfunctional home lives, while others just never escape it.

Konstantin posted:

Keep in mind that almost all teenagers who are raised with that stuff either don't believe in it at all, or think things like "Well, oral sex doesn't actually count as sex, and it doesn't count if he pulls out before he comes." That, or they end up getting married to the first person they are in a serious relationship with, just so they can have sex.

This is one of the biggest problems with Christian Culture today.

While I still consider myself to be a Christian, I have little to nothing to do with any organized church anymore, and the attitude towards sex out side of marriage is one of the biggest reasons why.

I was pretty heavily involved with the 20-something ministries when I was still an active member of the second largest church in my town. The congregation was probably about 8000 people or more at that time. I think it is closer to 12000 now. The 20-something group I was involved in had about 100 singles in it total, but most of our meetings would have about 20 to 40 people show up.

People would meet up and pair off in to couples, just like any other group of young single adults would. They would date for a short while and then rush off to get married. On average I would say they lasted about 3 months before taking the plunge, but there was one couple that only made it 30 days from the day the met to the day they were married.

The people were just so horned up and ready to gently caress, but couldn't rationalize any way to do that with out getting married. I am not purposing people just sleep around, but you should definitively have sex with someone before you are married. If nothing else, because you can figure out if you really have feelings for them that extend beyond wanting to have sex.

It turns out that most of them didn't because about a 1/3 of them ended up divorced with in 5 years. Sanctity of Marriage in deed.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

DarkArchimedes posted:

I have no idea what kind of university confers those degrees

A non-accredited one, assuming she didn't get it from some wishywashy website or something.

YJT posted:

While the evidence for the benefits of alternative medicine are sketchy at best, not all forms of it are as dumb as homeopathy and it would be possible to have a legit degree in it that required actual work and knowledge.

You should probably check out this thread. It's as Question Mark Mound implied. Nearly all forms of alternative medicine has been tested scientifically and we have a term for those that actually show non-random evidence of being effective.

That word is "medicine."

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler
MOD EDIT: don't try to be an internet detective, rear end in a top hat

Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Nov 11, 2011

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
Internet detectivery is frowned on for a reason, Ambaire :stare:

Lezzie Borden
Jul 20, 2011
It's the same thing in mormon culture, getting married early to the first person who shows interested in you. I'm pretty sure they showed us Pamela's Prayer, too.

Blastoise
Nov 9, 2010

Onward, Sancho!
Please get rid of that link and information as that is probably actually Henriette, Ambaire.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

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I will neither confirm nor deny but please remove that info.

LambdaZero
Nov 5, 2009

suck it

Steven Seagull posted:

So was the mouth fair game, or...

I think there was something about "penetration in all it's forms" or some bullshit. I wish I had asked to make a copy for my records.


Radio! posted:

What did the girl think of this? Was it like perfectly normal for her? :psyduck:

She apologized profusely. She was blindsided just like I was, and I brushed it off as some stupid trick her mom thought was clever.

Turns out the girl was some weird sect of born again christian, so while she had no problem telling me about the crazy poo poo she did when she was "mad at god," she wasn't mad anymore, so she basically did everything thing her mother told her to. She was a very nice girl, if a bit weird. I'm sure if her mom had been some level of sane, it would have worked out great.

LambdaZero fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 11, 2011

Wandering Knitter
Feb 5, 2006

Meow

Konstantin posted:

Keep in mind that almost all teenagers who are raised with that stuff either don't believe in it at all, or think things like "Well, oral sex doesn't actually count as sex, and it doesn't count if he pulls out before he comes." That, or they end up getting married to the first person they are in a serious relationship with, just so they can have sex.

That happened to an old high school buddy of mine. She went off to college and married a guy after about a month of dating so they could have sex. Then he convinced her that all of her old hobbies (D&D, video games, anime, fantasy) were satanic and I never saw her again.

Great, now I'm even more depressed. Can get get back to Denise doing stupid things? :smith:

Transmogrifier
Dec 10, 2004


Systems at max!

Lipstick Apathy

The Saddest Rhino posted:

:raise:

:doh: Sorry, I meant Rhino. It was one of those days.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Hippos, rhinos...they'll both ruin your poo poo if you annoy them.

KittenmittenKameha
Sep 8, 2011

rangergirl posted:

I have a friend who is like a sex crazed version of Denise with less anime , better hygine and more social skills. We're older than the OP so anime wasn't really around much when we were in high school. What was around was TMNT and my friend was really into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Leonardo was her favorite and she told me few times that she was going to lose her virginity to him. She painted a huge portrait of Leonardo and had it hanging on her bedroom wall for years. I suspect there was some long, lonely nights where Leonardo got a little tongue action. Later Leonardo was dumped for Simba from the Lion King.
Wow. Those were my crushes when I was, like, five. My childhood feels violated. Thanks.

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

KittenmittenKameha posted:

Wow. Those were my crushes when I was, like, five. My childhood feels violated. Thanks.

My first crush was Kermit the Frog, and until proven wrong (oh god please don't) I am going to cling to the belief that no one has inappropriately sexual thoughts about him :ohdear:

Fascinator
Jan 2, 2011

The four stages of E/N posting.

legsarerequired posted:

My friend is actually very well-adjusted and has moved past her upbringing, and pretty much no one ever suspects anything is remotely unusual about her homelife. I wonder what it is that makes some people grow out of the crazy and overcome dysfunctional home lives, while others just never escape it.

I've noticed that the people who are able to do this tend to have a few factors in common. Things like analytical intelligence, sociability, and curiosity go a long way in getting away from these situations, though I'd say that sociability is by far the most important. Being able to navigate situations and relationships with people and being able to make new friends quickly and easily is invaluable in getting perspective on your situation and finding allies to help you overcome it.

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Panzerschwein
May 8, 2009

sboobs

RazorBunny posted:

My first crush was Kermit the Frog, and until proven wrong (oh god please don't) I am going to cling to the belief that no one has inappropriately sexual thoughts about him :ohdear:

What's green and slimy and smells like bacon?

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