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fknlo posted:From the military/former military people I know, this has to be the last thing that would ever come up as a justification for something like this. There's probably a Navy or AF aircraft dumping fuel over your house right now! This used to be the case, but we now only dump in an IFE situation. If we come home early because our activity cancelled we will fly in circles because that's the only we can get our flight hours met (because we don't have enough fuel). iyaayas01 posted:For what it's worth, the AF already re-engined a small fleet (the RC-135s) and a large fleet (the non-E KC-135s), and is in the process of getting ready to re-engine the E-8s, albeit with a revised JT3D design as opposed to the CFM56s they put on the RC-135s and KC-135s. J3TD = TF33 Godholio fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Nov 9, 2011 |
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Godholio posted:This used to be the case, but we now only dump in an IFE situation. In fight entertainment? God you guys must be bored up there.
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I think I know Godholio's favourite acronym.
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Ola posted:The Pond Racer has to be the inspiration for George Lucas' pod racer. Long-EZ you say? The Long-EZ inspired the Velocity Elite series aircraft.  which in turn inspired the Rocket Racing League aircraft.  When is that going to get off the ground anyways? They are years behind aren't they? 
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Airbus 330 floats in midair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c22XRtCEfV8
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iyaayas01 posted:For what it's worth, the AF already re-engined a small fleet (the RC-135s) and a large fleet (the non-E KC-135s), and is in the process of getting ready to re-engine the E-8s, albeit with a revised JT3D design as opposed to the CFM56s they put on the RC-135s and KC-135s. I was under the impression that the E-8s were going to be re-engined with Pratt JT8D-219s.
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I saw a picture today. That right there is a Vulcan flying over the B-24 'Lady Be Good' that went down over Libya during WWII. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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I hate Lady Be Good's story. 
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Godholio posted:I hate Lady Be Good's story. Apparently it got dragged out of the desert and was last seen at a Libyan airbase? Probably available to a motivated buyer for the price of a couple AK-47's and a trailer rental.
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Slo-Tek posted:I saw a picture today. Amazing photo 
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grover posted:
I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it? Wiki thinks it has to be within line of sight? That is just weird. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Slo-Tek posted:I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it?
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Slo-Tek posted:I saw a picture today. This is awesome. I wish Vulcans were still being used, maybe upgraded to keep up with the times and used as a long endurance bomb truck like the B-52s. Slo-Tek you post the best pictures. Have any more?
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grover posted:
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Ridge_Runner_5 posted:B-52 MITO takeoff So when they say "Flush the bombers"... yeah man. It occurs to me that if I saw this happen, and didn't know what or why... it would scare the piss out of me. Exi7wound fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Slo-Tek posted:I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it? Ultimate Weapons on Netflix has a good section on it. http://movies.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70209910&trkid=4243241&t=Ultimate+Weapons%3A+Robotic+Warriors
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Godholio posted:J3TD = TF33 MrChips posted:I was under the impression that the E-8s were going to be re-engined with Pratt JT8D-219s. Durr, I read and comprehend good...there are many reasons I didn't want to fly for the AF, but one of them is that my eyesight is apparently terrible and can't tell the difference between a 3 and an 8. Yeah, I meant to say JT8D, got my 3s and 8s confused. One of the reasons they're pushing upgraded JT8Ds as an upgrade for TF33s is because they are argued to be somewhat cheaper than upgrading to CFM-56s due to the JT8Ds being similarly shaped to the JT3D/TF33s, therefore there are fewer structural modifications that need to be performed. Slo-Tek posted:I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it? Worth mentioning that the Navy has done this before, 50 years ago. Fire Scout isn't intended as a replacement for manned helicopters, it's intended to compliment them. Finally, if you're going to talk BUFFs doing MITO, at least post a real MITO, not the watered down safety conscious bullshit one they do today. Hell, with the one from '09 they don't even break the flightline speed limit as they're driving from the alert facility to the aircraft. 15 second intervals > 40 second intervals. Also with water injection. Just to prove they weren't only showing off for the movie cameras, here's a faux-real world one, with a bonus KC-135.
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iyaayas01 posted:Durr, I read and comprehend good...there are many reasons I didn't want to fly for the AF, but one of them is that my eyesight is apparently terrible and can't tell the difference between a 3 and an 8. Yeah, I meant to say JT8D, got my 3s and 8s confused. One of the reasons they're pushing upgraded JT8Ds as an upgrade for TF33s is because they are argued to be somewhat cheaper than upgrading to CFM-56s due to the JT8Ds being similarly shaped to the JT3D/TF33s, therefore there are fewer structural modifications that need to be performed. Oh good, a six-year newer design.  Updating from the late '60s to the early '70s...sounds about loving right.
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We did this for Movember: molima by Brian.M.K, on Flickr
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Slo-Tek posted:I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it? HAHAHA, Hellfire missiles? No can't carry them (too much weight). It carries a 70mm rocket that has been retrofitted with a laser seeking head. Basically it'll be just groovy against anything without any protection. Sweet! Tremblay fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Tremblay posted:HAHAHA, Hellfire missiles? No can't carry them (too much weight). It carries a 70mm rocket that has been retrofitted with a laser seeking head. Basically it'll be just groovy against anything without any protection.
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Slo-Tek posted:I don't get the mission here. What does the Navy want to do with a slow, short-legged, micro-helicopter with a couple hellfires on it? Is this some sort of offspring from that clusterfuck littoral combat ship? I remember one of the modules was supposed to be a drone aircraft hanger.
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Godholio posted:Oh good, a six-year newer design. Especially considering the JT8D is less powerful than the JT3D. I always liked both those engines. Something about the "We're still figuring out this whole "turbofan" thing"-ness of them. Edit: Nevermind, it seems the JT8D-200s have similar power to the JT3s and are most likely what would replace them. Previa_fun fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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grover posted:A typical 70mm Hydra has a warhead roughly equivalent to two RPG-7 rounds. So, Fire Scouts aren't going to be blowing up hardened buildings with one, but it's more than enough to take out a car or really ruin someone's day. And it's not like the scouts are meant to be used against someone elses actually, you know, military. They will be just fine for blowing up funnytalkers in rowboats and hiluxes, which is what the military wants most these days.
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grover posted:A typical 70mm Hydra has a warhead roughly equivalent to two RPG-7 rounds. So, Fire Scouts aren't going to be blowing up hardened buildings with one, but it's more than enough to take out a car or really ruin someone's day. I've probably typed and deleted 8 responses to this. Stupid public forums.
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Godholio posted:Oh good, a six-year newer design. I've never understood the rationale behind the decision either. The Air Force and their contractors already have all the infrastructure to work with the CFM56; why would you go and introduce a new engine type, especially on an airframe that has never used that type of engine (Boeing did all the engineering work to hang CFM56s on a 707 back in the late 1970s, so it isn't like it would be a huge job to make it work on the E-8s). Even with the lower unit cost of the JT8D versus the CFM, I can't see how there would be any cost savings when you factor in the cost of engineering the solution for a relatively small fleet of aircraft.
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Agreed on all points. Edit: This is pretty neat: Firing a Spitfire MG after 70 years in a bog. Godholio fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 10, 2011 |
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Loving this. Is that an AH-64 Moustache?
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Godholio posted:Oh good, a six-year newer design. At least these engines will probably work...half of the time when we upgrade to something "new" (read: several decades old, but newer than what we were using before) it doesn't even loving work. Still dumb though. Tremblay posted:I've probably typed and deleted 8 responses to this. Stupid public forums. There is a thread over in GiP that may be more to your liking.  MrChips posted:I've never understood the rationale behind the decision either. Who does P&W own in the office that made the decision? Sadly I'm only about 25% joking.
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iyaayas01 posted:here's a faux-real world one, with a bonus KC-135. Three bonus KC-135's. Three! I remember seeing a MITO by the National Guard KC-135's at Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix many years ago, before they were re-engined. I was on top of the parking garage, and it was awesome as 6 of them rolled out, and completely disrupted the regular commercial flight ops at the airport. I remember thinking at the time that all the folks in Tempe were going to be wearing our their phones that night, as the KC's were all running full power water injected takeoffs to the east (at the time, Tempe people really liked to complain about the aircraft noise from Sky Harbor).
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Boomerjinks posted:Loving this. Is that an AH-64 Moustache? Nope, a Sikorsky S-76a mustache. Nam Taf posted:We do that to a bunch of our locomotives each year Fun. I'm honestly a bit surprised at how positive the response was from management and it's been a big hit locally.
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iyaayas01 posted:At least these engines will probably work...half of the time when we upgrade to something "new" (read: several decades old, but newer than what we were using before) it doesn't even loving work. Still dumb though.  to all of it.
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Spitfire dug out of a peat bog in Ireland, where it crashed in 1941: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15652440 In remarkable condition considering it crashed 70 years ago, mainly due to the anoxic conditions of the bog. Page has video of them cleaning up and firing one of the Browning .303s.
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Phanatic posted:Spitfire dug out of a peat bog in Ireland, where it crashed in 1941: I wish it was one of the later ones with the Hispano HS.404 20mm cannon. It was still pretty rad seeing them fire the Browning.
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Sexual Lorax posted:I don't know if it was this thread that turned me on to concept ships, but this made me chuckle: Oh the things that could have been...what would have Aeroflot space accident rate been like?
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So there's this new sculpture in Philly they put up right by the convention center. I think it's kind of sad: vvvv It's an S-2, that looks to have been airworthy in '07. I wonder what happened to it. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Nov 14, 2011 |
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Looks like the remains of the flyer from Flight of the Phoenix... Wait, it's just the angle. Looks more like an A-26... But it reminds me of the C-130 firefighter wreck a few years back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDNCac2N1o
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