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So FF8 is out and they added this new thing with users selecting their add-ons (or plugins or who knows what the gently caress since Mozilla can't call them anything consistently): http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/08/11/strengthening-user-control-of-add-ons/ One of the comments says they'll provide information for OEMs and enterprises, but I can't find anything on that blog about it. We install Adblock+ by default on all of our PCs, and not in the the user profile. Is there anything describing this change in more technical detail and ways to minimize how much end users have to see and click on extra poo poo?
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# ? Nov 8, 2011 21:17 |
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Cpt.Wacky posted:So FF8 is out and they added this new thing with users selecting their add-ons (or plugins or who knows what the gently caress since Mozilla can't call them anything consistently): http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/08/11/strengthening-user-control-of-add-ons/ fligtar's post (the one you quote) is agood one. add-ons = extensions by the way. plug-ins are different. And here is a decent news story on ver 8 goodness http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57320795/firefox-8-new-rules-for-add-ons/
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# ? Nov 8, 2011 23:07 |
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Microsoft Spy posted:And here is a decent news story on ver 8 goodness http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57320795/firefox-8-new-rules-for-add-ons/ CBS News posted:Tabs get a tune-up, too. The animations should look better when people reorder tabs Um, the reordering animation was removed?
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# ? Nov 8, 2011 23:47 |
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Microsoft Spy posted:fligtar's post (the one you quote) is agood one. add-ons = extensions by the way. Right, so what I'm looking for is what he commented would be coming "soon": fligtar posted:We’ll be posting info for enterprises and other distributions that need to ship with add-ons built in soon. It’s still possible. Where are the details about which preferences I need to set so that my users will never have to see anything about this? Or do I have to figure it out myself like every other new feature? (This is why I'm ditching Firefox as a supported browser at work...)
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 00:45 |
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WTF is this dashed line thing for and how do I turn it off? I assume it's related to favicons since I have those off, and that's where they normally go. I have a few bookmarks in one folder, and if I middle clicked the folder it would open all the bookmarks in separate tabs, but now it doesn't use the first new blank tab in a new window, and I get this: Before it would only load the 3 tabs with content, and not leave me a blank new tab. If I can get that behavior back that would be pretty nice.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 01:38 |
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Scott808 posted:WTF is this dashed line thing for and how do I turn it off? http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/792988#answer-149877 quote:I have a few bookmarks in one folder, and if I middle clicked the folder it would open all the bookmarks in separate tabs, but now it doesn't use the first new blank tab in a new window, and I get this:
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 01:49 |
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I honestly wonder how long until extension developers who don't use addons.mozilla.org start just tagging extensions with a maxVersion of 20,000 so that they stop having to bump the version number every six weeks. If they haven't already, anyway.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 05:42 |
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Joke's on them when mozilla starts using letters or something instead because version 17 of a program just looks tacky as hell.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 06:19 |
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Fiskiggy posted:Joke's on them when mozilla starts using letters or something instead because version 17 of a program just looks tacky as hell.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 12:10 |
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Fiskiggy posted:Joke's on them when mozilla starts using letters or something instead because version 17 of a program just looks tacky as hell.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 16:47 |
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Yes they got rid of the stupid button borders. More viewing space for me Any idea when it will be added to the Ubuntu repositories? Scott808 posted:WTF is this dashed line thing for and how do I turn it off? It's also used as a placeholder for webpages that have no icon. It used to be a blank paper icon, but now there's a couple of websites in my bookmarks without icons and it looks kind of goofy with those boxed outlines.
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 17:33 |
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I just upgraded to 8 and now all of my Extensions are missing. Both AdBlock Plus and FlashBlock poo poo out with "Failed to install" when I try to install them but for some reason NoScript installs without a problem. What the gently caress is going on?
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# ? Nov 9, 2011 23:25 |
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Probably something with the new feature forcing users to select which stuff they want enabled when upgrading. Try a new profile maybe? I found this page on disabling the new add-on controls. Haven't had a chance to test it yet.
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# ? Nov 10, 2011 00:26 |
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The add-ons seemed to be installed and working (AdBlock blocking ads, FlashBlock blocking YouTube, etc) but they were not listed. I made the changes on the page you linked, restarted FF, it asked if I wanted to install AdBlock, said yes, restarted again, it asked if I wanted to install FlashBlock, said yes again, restarted again, and it looks correct now. That was perfect, thanks for the help Cpt.Wacky.
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# ? Nov 10, 2011 05:18 |
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Cpt.Wacky posted:I found this page on disabling the new add-on controls. Haven't had a chance to test it yet. uuhh should i be worried?
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# ? Nov 10, 2011 12:55 |
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Not particularly, they just use a cheap and lovely webhost.
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# ? Nov 10, 2011 13:04 |
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After testing, it appears this is all you need to do to get extensions in the program files folder rather than user profiles working, without any user interaction: lockPref("extensions.autoDisableScopes", 11); That site I linked had the pref misspelled as autoDisableScope. I'm not sure what the other pref they mentioned (extensions.shownSelectionUI) is for, but I never saw the selection page, even before I started messing with these prefs. I was upgrading from 6.0.2 to 8.0, so maybe that was why. You need to set this pref for Thunderbird too if you're bundling stuff like Lightning.
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# ? Nov 10, 2011 18:02 |
I don't have to press Back two times on these forums anymore.
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# ? Nov 11, 2011 04:04 |
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Looks like Aurora's up to 10.0a2 now. It claimed that a metric tonne of my addons were no longer functional, but they seem to be working. Unfortunately, the add-on manager isn't. Oh well, I can live without that until someone comes up with a fix or workaround.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 08:28 |
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I am excited that I can restore my previous sessions.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 18:20 |
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MachinTrucChose posted:Whelp, I'm back on Firefox. I gave it up in favor of Opera after that fast release cycle bullshit was dropped on developers. I always knew I would come back, once the bulk of the add-on community have adapted to the changes, and they seem to have done so now.[...] I guess I spoke in haste. The add-on situation is STILL not resolved. Aurora just notified me of a new update, which wants to disable 75% of my add-ons. So add-ons I installed on last week's Aurora don't work on this week's? Really? And you think I'm going to update? Mozilla, you are complete idiots. I use Firefox for the add-ons, I thought I'd help Mozilla out by going along with their new release cycles, but my time is too important to deal with this poo poo. Hopefully it's resolved next year or something. I'll try updating then. Just fix the goddamn problem already. (Yes, I know I can disable add-on compatibility checking. But that just means if there's a genuine compatibility issue I'd have to spend my own time hunting it down). tl;dr: I wanted to be at the bleeding edge alongside Mozilla and report feedback and poo poo, but their incompetence is forcing me to not update anytime soon. MachinTrucChose fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 12, 2011 |
# ? Nov 12, 2011 20:20 |
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This might help. From the Extension Guru's blog:quote:Important! Add-on Compatibility Reporter is not correctly working with Firefox (and Thunderbird 10). You will need to go into about :config and manually add the Boolean Preference extensions.checkCompatibility.10.0a and set to FALSE.Once you restart Firefox your add-ons should be working again.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 20:29 |
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MachinTrucChose posted:I guess I spoke in haste. The add-on situation is STILL not resolved. Aurora just notified me of a new update, which wants to disable 75% of my add-ons. So add-ons I installed on last week's Aurora don't work on this week's? Really? And you think I'm going to update? Mozilla, you are complete idiots. I use Firefox for the add-ons, I thought I'd help Mozilla out by going along with their new release cycles, but my time is too important to deal with this poo poo. Hopefully it's resolved next year or something. I'll try updating then. Just fix the goddamn problem already.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 20:34 |
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Fangs404 posted:I wonder if it has something to do with hardware acceleration. I bet safe mode doesn't have hardware acceleration enabled. Try disabling that to see if it fixes your issue (options -> advanced -> uncheck hardware acceleration). If it does, maybe try updating your graphics drivers (do that anyway). Disabling Hardware Acceleration greatly improved the Gmail performance on my Windows system. It's now close to that of Firefox on my Mac system.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 21:25 |
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Gmail is hosed up for me on Firefox 8 (windows 7 pc) The body of each message is hidden. Same with the IM window. I logged in using chrome and it worked fine. What's going on?
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 23:04 |
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clockworkjoe posted:Gmail is hosed up for me on Firefox 8 (windows 7 pc) Maybe a hosed up extension? Try disabling them all and re-enabling one by one.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 23:21 |
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Fangs404 posted:Maybe a hosed up extension? Try disabling them all and re-enabling one by one. Adblock plus 1.3.10 caused it.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 23:31 |
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Which means that one of the filter sets you're subscribed to caused it.
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# ? Nov 12, 2011 23:39 |
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No problems so far other than getting instant crashes each time I try to access my bookmarks.
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 06:23 |
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Wankie posted:You are on the Aurora/Alpha channel, the whole point of that channel is so you can tell mozilla which addons are broken so they don't auto update the version number and bork beta/release channel users and to tell addon makers which bugs need to be fixed. Its obvious you hate being on the bleeding edge just move to beta channel and you'll much happier. Moving to the beta channel then, thanks for the advice. Doesn't change the fact that Mozilla isn't doing what it can/should to help developers have a sane way of making plugins work in any version. Adding stuff like HTML5 support and WebGL shouldn't be breaking an add-on that lets me customize the context menu.
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 08:06 |
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MachinTrucChose posted:Moving to the beta channel then, thanks for the advice. You missed the point: alphas aren't convenient to use. It's an alpha. There isn't even a guarantee that it won't crash after 15 seconds of use because it's an alpha. If you use the current release version or even a stable beta you would not have to deal with those things. Next freak out on the Win8 developer preview for not properly supporting some old piece of poo poo app you're in love with.
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 09:04 |
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So on firefox 8 is stylish and userstsyles working correctly for any one else? it says it's updated and enabled, i only use the 1 stylish script "mark links as visited" the script doesn't appear to be working. i've downgraded back to 3.6.24 currently, and it's working perfectly normal, but on version 8 doesn't
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 13:01 |
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Atrocious Pirate posted:So on firefox 8 is stylish and userstsyles working correctly for any one else? Stylish works perfectly for me on 8, Scriptish does as well. Why the heck would you go all the way back to 3.6 instead of 7 or 6?
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 16:33 |
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Anyone having issues with Silverlight, specifically Netflix, in Firefox 8 (I'm on Lion)? Movies play fine but keyboard commands like spacebar to pause work sporadically in window view but work consistently in full screen view. Everything seems to work okay in Chrome/Safari.
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# ? Nov 13, 2011 17:48 |
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Install Gentoo posted:Stylish works perfectly for me on 8, Scriptish does as well. mainly because i really just don't like the new interface, i love the old 3.6 interface and it still displays webpages without issues. Mozilla is still releasing security patch's so no harm no foul. Will try once again uninstalling & deleting the old profile stuff, then doing a complete clean re-install to ff8 and try again.
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# ? Nov 14, 2011 03:20 |
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Does it make sense to run both NoScript and Ghostery? Looks like some of their features overlap a bit and that can get messy.
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# ? Nov 14, 2011 03:38 |
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clockworkjoe posted:Gmail is hosed up for me on Firefox 8 (windows 7 pc) Update your AdBlock filter subs - the same issue appears on Safari/Chrome as well.
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# ? Nov 14, 2011 04:37 |
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crestfallen posted:Does it make sense to run both NoScript and Ghostery? Looks like some of their features overlap a bit and that can get messy. I run both and while the features do overlap I haven't noticed any negative impact.
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# ? Nov 14, 2011 05:18 |
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GChat was hosed for me too when I updated to FF8. Figured out its adblock. Updating filters fixed it.
Levo fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 14, 2011 |
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Atrocious Pirate posted:mainly because i really just don't like the new interface, i love the old 3.6 interface and it still displays webpages without issues. Mozilla is still releasing security patch's so no harm no foul.
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