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He's actually got a leg up on everyone else already, I remember reading about a thousand similar Craigslist postings by solos looking for someone fresh out of school willing to work 100 hours a week for minimum wage and the amazing knowledge that would be bestowed upon them.
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diospadre posted:He's actually got a leg up on everyone else already, I remember reading about a thousand similar Craigslist postings by solos looking for someone fresh out of school willing to work 100 hours a week for minimum wage and the amazing knowledge that would be bestowed upon them. I think I have this job. The knowledge is less than amazing.
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Slobjob Zizek posted:Calling all SoCal lawgoons: $10,000 to tutor me for the Dec 2011 LSAT (Laguna Beach, CA) Hahahaha oh my god. This made my day. Please one of the SoCal brethren jump on this. E: I'm pretty sure a 160 isn't a slam dunk at Loyola or USD either which I assume is where he/she would be wanting to go.
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sigmachiev posted:Hahahaha oh my god. This made my day. Please one of the SoCal brethren jump on this. I'm a little confused as to how someone could write such a cogent ad on Craiglist but could not get a 160 on the LSAT after classes and tutors.
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quote:I have taken the Testmasters LSAT Prep Course twice; have the Powerscore, Kaplan, Blueprint, and LSAC LSAT books. I have also had a private tutor every weekend for 3 months and still was not able to achieve above a 155. On the one hand, I want to say to this kid: hang it up. You can't handle the LSAT apparently. On the other hand, if there is any last-ditch, full court press sort of solution, this kid's proposal is it. 6 days a week, 2pm to 10pm, 1v1 tutoring, for 30 days? I know it sounds ridiculous but honestly I respect the kid for wanting to try it - at least you know he's dedicated to the idea. I doubt it will work, mind you, but A for effort.
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How do law schools consider multiple LSATs? Do they only see certain ones that you submit to them, or do they see everything?
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Ratatozsk posted:How do law schools consider multiple LSATs? Do they only see certain ones that you submit to them, or do they see everything? They see all scores. Until recently, US News used to average multiple LSAT scores from the same applicant for their rankings, I think, so law schools did that too. A few years ago they switched to only taking the highest score so I think that's what most schools do now too, since rankings are important. A lot of them say they "consider" all LSAT scores, but I think it's just a minor soft factor instead of a serious numerical consideration. I think when you take it more than three times though it looks a lot worse. Also LSAT scores expire after five years. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 13, 2011 |
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Nov 13, 2011 18:32
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Furthermore the December test is the worst test to take.
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Nov 13, 2011 19:02
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nm posted:Heath law is a viable field, but don't think it is saving lives or some poo poo. It is basically a specialized part of insurance law with hospitals suing insurance companies to get bills paid and insurance companies suing hospitals over over billing. Oh and contracts and stuff. So, there you go. Not saving lives, but still close enough to doing "good," as I imagine whoever this person is conceives Health Law to be.
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Starting to kind of go back and forth between family law and PD work. I worked at Legal Aid this semester and I loved the law but the clients were so dumb sometimes (mostly just the divorce/custody cases I saw--a couple with 2-3 lawyers each arguing over every last thing). But I talked to some successful attorney friends of mine that I knew from high school at a wedding this weekend, and I kind of remembered that if I went with family law I'd have a huge built-in client base. My parents are very active in the Arab/Muslim community, and since my mom is a pediatrician with a lot of state-insured patients (as opposed to private) I feel like I'd have a lot of built-in referrals. I'm not in Michigan so I don't have a lot of Arab/Muslim attorneys to compete with here. I have work for the summer in the federal public defender's office, and I'm taking as much crim law as I can. I'll be taking family law and family law practice this next semester. I feel like if I prep myself for PD work it won't shut me out of family law, but if I only focused on family law I'd probably be shut out of PD work. Is this correct? My hope is that maybe I can be a PD for several years and get some good trial experience, and then if I want to go out on my own someday I can do family law and crim defense. I don't have any job prospects so planning my life out like this is pretty much the only thing that makes me feel better  . It's worked out so far, but I've been doing unpaid stuff with no hope of employment, so we'll see how things go next year.
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Neko Sou posted:but I've been doing unpaid stuff with no hope of employment, so we'll see how things go next year. Next year you discover that it's possible to have negative hope.
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sigmachiev posted:Furthermore the December test is the worst test to take. Do you mean because of time or because of content? Because I got a 166 in December and a 173 in February. Which, for the purposes of the 5 year rule, actually counts as one year.
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http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/nov/14/5/supreme-court-will-hear-health-care-arguments-ar-1458439/quote:The Supreme Court said today it will hear arguments in March over President Barack Obama's health care overhaul — a case that could shake the political landscape just as voters are about to decide if Obama deserves another term. quote:The justices announced they will hear more than five hours of arguments, an extraordinarily long session, from lawyers on the constitutionality of a provision at the heart of the law and other related questions about the act. The central provision in question is the requirement that individuals buy health insurance starting in 2014 or pay a penalty. Wow they are not loving around with this one. For those of us younger lawyers, I think this is going to be one of the top 5 most significant legal decisions of our careers.
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entris posted:For those of us younger lawyers, I think this is going to be one of the top 5 most significant legal decisions of our careers. Really shouldn't they just let Kennedy do all the question asking?
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Green Crayons posted:Medicaid Fraud Units at both the State and Federal level are pretty big. I know that the Medicaid Fraud Unit at the Virginia AG pretty much pays for itself, which has been a major reason as to why it's one of the few offices that have been expanding these past few years. And this isn't recipient fraud (a different state agency takes care of that, at least in VA) but health provider/drug company/etc. fraud. We won $170M earlier this year and are getting ready to begin a trial where potential liability exceeds $1B. Still not hiring.
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Neko Sou posted:[At first glance, three reasons why PDs have a bad reputation] To clear things up, could you write a couple sentences on your experiences with Legal Aid or PD clients?
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Roger_Mudd posted:Really shouldn't they just let Kennedy do all the question asking? drat I thought I was going to be the first to predict a 5-4 decision. Obviously this will have numerous concurrences and dissenting opinions that will require law students to purchase a new edition Con Law text.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Really shouldn't they just let Kennedy do all the question asking? I doubt the decision will be close.
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8-1 upholding, with Thomas the lone dissent.
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Upheld, 9 opinions (but really just a mess of partial concurrences and dissents), and a majority votes against each and every rationale given for upholding.
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Soylent Pudding posted:Upheld, 9 opinions (but really just a mess of partial concurrences and dissents), and a majority votes against each and every rationale given for upholding. A ConLaw textbook author's wet dream.
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joat mon posted:To clear things up, could you write a couple sentences on your experiences with Legal Aid or PD clients? I haven't done any PD work yet, it'll be this summer. Sorry, I didn't mean to come off sounding like I think everyone is dumb, we just had this really frustrating case with these two parents that wouldn't trust each other on anything and were basically paying 2-3 attorneys each to just waste the court's time. They wouldn't do settlement conferences or anything outside of their court dates, they'd just argue about stuff for 2-3 hours until the judge finally said "get in here, we're doing this now." It just bothered me that people could be so petty when it comes to their kids, which I know is pretty much the theme of family law. The attorneys for the dad told me this was the most contentious divorce they had ever seen and things weren't usually so bad. (my boss was the GAL in that case, so she ended up mediating between the two sides until they finally realized no one was going to agree). Our CPO clients were very sweet, though one of them ended up getting back together with her ex-husband who started stalking and menacing her again, so we ended up back in court. From my limited experience, it just seems like it'd be easier to deal with criminals and the crime they've already committed rather than trying to guide someone through their current clusterfuck of a divorce or what have you, only to have them turn around and do the thing you decided you weren't going to do. I know many criminals re-offend all the time and there would probably be the same kind of frustration seeing the same client over and over but it just doesn't seem like it'd be as bad, I guess. I do really like criminal defense though, and I think everyone is entitled to a defense no matter how scummy or guilty everyone thinks they are. The PDs in our community, at least on the federal level, are amazing at what they do and they really inspired me to want to pursue a career in that field. But I'll know a little more once I do my summer work, I imagine. Does that help?
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Occupy protests have hit campus here at Berkeley. This was at Sproul Plaza. Draw your own conclusions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buovLQ9qyWQ Boalt students, near Boalt itself (which is located in a corner of campus some distance from Sproul), were accosted by police, cuffed, and had their signs/bullhorns taken for failing to produce student ID cards. No Boalties were arrested. There is a scheduled walkout tomorrow to strike. Both students and faculty will be participating. Some classes have been moved outside, some are being recorded. To my knowledge none are cancelled. E: I should note the general purpose of this Occupy is to oppose UC tuition hikes. The general purpose of the Boalt walkout is more about the police response. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 14, 2011 |
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sigmachiev posted:Occupy protests have hit campus here at Berkeley. This was at Sproul Plaza. Draw your own conclusions. ::works a summer in BIGLAW making 3k a week and then goes to an Occupy protest::
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HiddenReplaced posted:::works a summer in BIGLAW making 3k a week and then goes to an Occupy protest:: Oh I didn't go. And I'm not going to the Dean's Town Hall about it, going on as I type. And I'm going to Admin tomorrow morning.
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sigmachiev posted:In exactly the same boat. But I'm a 3L and if ever there's a time to dedicating yourself to a game... I was supposed to work on my paper this weekend so I can graduate but I ended up playing Skyrim for a ridiculous amount of hours.
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mikeraskol posted:I was supposed to work on my paper this weekend so I can graduate but I ended up playing Skyrim for a ridiculous amount of hours. Skyrim just caused me to hand in the shittiest paper I've ever put my name on. Just wait until Diablo 3 comes out this spring. That'll be the end of my studying altogether.
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gvibes posted:8-1 upholding, with Thomas the lone dissent.
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You guys really think it will be upheld? Maybe it's cause I'm from Texas and folks here treat the commerce clause like it spat at their mother.
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sigmachiev posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buovLQ9qyWQ take that you loving hippies!!!!!
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I wonder how many of the 5 hours Thomas will end up sleeping through. Also, my bet is that the main opinion will be Per Curiam and incomprehensible, with no judge taking the "credit" for trying to explain what the majority's opinion actually is.
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Roger_Mudd posted:You guys really think it will be upheld? Maybe it's cause I'm from Texas and folks here treat the commerce clause like it spat at their mother. There is no good way to invalidate the mandate without invalidating most of the tax code.
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evilweasel posted:There is no good way to invalidate the mandate without invalidating most of the tax code. I haven't heard this argument? Wouldn't the 16th carve out an exception for income tax?
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sigmachiev posted:Oh I didn't go. And I'm not going to the Dean's Town Hall about it, going on as I type. And I'm going to Admin tomorrow morning. I wasn't talking about you specifically, but half your class goes into biglaw.
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HiddenReplaced posted:I wasn't talking about you specifically, but half your class goes into biglaw.
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gvibes posted:8-1 upholding, with Thomas the lone dissent. I don't know how anybody is predicting this. Yes, if they go by precedent it will be upheld, but if they go by preferred outcome and influence of people in their intellectual circles (which is the Federalist Society for almost half of them) it's very iffy.
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If it gets upheld, only because Kennedy carves out exception for healthcare. Otherwise, the "but then there's no limit!" wins the day.
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