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Green Crayons posted:If it gets upheld, only because Kennedy carves out exception for healthcare. Otherwise, the "but then there's no limit!" wins the day. Why wouldn't they just hold that it's a tax and sidestep the commerce clause question entirely?
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jake1357 posted:Why wouldn't they just hold that it's a tax and sidestep the commerce clause question entirely? Because it didn't get called a tax. Note that none of the lower courts are going for that argument. It's all coming down to the CC.
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Nov 15, 2011 04:43
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Time for the commerce clause drinking game. The rule is simple: Drink!
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yronic heroism posted:I don't know how anybody is predicting this. Because people who literally know nothing about the supreme court or con law are making the predictions.
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Nov 15, 2011 06:44
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This girl that I had a crush on back in high school posted:It's probably a bad sign that I want to quit the legal world already :/ There is simply nothing positive about it. Oh Kim. 
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Nov 15, 2011 17:29
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Residency Evil posted:Oh Kim. Good thing you dodged that bullet.
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Nov 15, 2011 17:32
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I'm the guy whose girl wants to do health law. I asked her what she thinks health law is, and she told me she wants to represent people, not insurance companies. What she said boiled down to "I want to help people get what they deserve from the health care system." Like, people collecting medicare benefits or deductions or whatever? It didn't seem very unified to me. Is this A Thing?
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Nov 15, 2011 20:21
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:I'm the guy whose girl wants to do health law. I asked her what she thinks health law is, and she told me she wants to represent people, not insurance companies. What she said boiled down to "I want to help people get what they deserve from the health care system." Like, people collecting medicare benefits or deductions or whatever? It didn't seem very unified to me. Is this A Thing? She can 1. Represent med-mal plaintiffs against hospitals and doctors. 2. Do elder law where she helps seniors get their Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare benefits. 3. Help veterans get their VA benefits. 4. Work with nonprofits that run free medical clinics. 5. Try to work for an international human rights organization that does health-related work in Africa or some other depressing locality. #1 is tort law, where she fills out boring litigation paperwork, hires medical experts, and then goes to trial. #2 and #3 are administrative law, where she fills out boring Social Security, VA, or Medicaid/Medicare paperwork and wrangles with bureaucrats all day. #4 is corporate / charitable org work, where she fills out boring transactional paperwork and attends board meetings of local nonprofits where all the non-lawyers babble on and on and waste her time. #5 is really just a red herring - these jobs are rarer than a polar bear on an equitorial island in the Pacific ocean. #2, #3, and #4 = very little money. #1 = can hit it big and make good money, but it's a crapshoot, most likely she won't make much money. That's all I got for someone who says they want to do health law where they represent people and not hospitals.
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Nov 15, 2011 20:36
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entris posted:#1 = can hit it big and make good money, but it's a crapshoot, most likely she won't make much money. I have never met more suicidal lawyers than med-mal plaintiffs attorneys in the south.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:14
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No-fault collections is a great practice area that makes money hand over fist, and there's nothing better than taking an insurance company to the shed
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Nov 15, 2011 21:33
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CaptainScraps posted:I have never met more suicidal lawyers than med-mal plaintiffs attorneys in the south. Is there even money for that in Texas? Thought that was capped pretty hard.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:45
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Feces Starship posted:No-fault collections is a great practice area that makes money hand over fist, and there's nothing better than taking an insurance company to the shed plus you get access to those sweet commercials starring Robert Wagner
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Nov 15, 2011 22:22
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TheBestDeception posted:Is there even money for that in Texas? Thought that was capped pretty hard. The only case you can make money off of is a brain damaged infant. If they die, no dice. If they have too much function left, no dice. I can't imagine wanting to practice in an area of law where you hope for brain damaged infants.
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Nov 15, 2011 23:24
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CaptainScraps posted:I have never met more suicidal lawyers than med-mal plaintiffs attorneys in the south. Me too, it's weird. The biglaw-esque lawyers seem pretty happy overall (excluding NY style firms like K&S), but man, all the plaintiffs attorneys I've talked to just hate life. Is it the opposite in the North?
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Update on stuff: There was a shooting on campus @ Haas, which is the building cluster adjacent to Boalt. Apparently no Berkeley students were harmed. There's a metric ton of people here now though and it looks like Occupy has set up shop at Sproul Plaza for the foreseeable future. So this isn't ending any time soon. Some classes were indeed cancelled and many moved off campus. I had Scholarship at a YWCA. Faculty throughout the university have also created a petition for a vote of no confidence in the Chancellor due to his response to the police beatings the other day. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Nov 16, 2011 |
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Nov 16, 2011 03:44
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entris posted:She can Good thing for this guys girlfriend that you've worked extensively in plaintiff's-side tort litigation, administrative law, and transactional law so that you can give him a really informed opinion about what it is like to do all those jobs. Tort litigation owns gently caress the haterz
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Nov 16, 2011 04:44
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Omerta posted:Me too, it's weird. The biglaw-esque lawyers seem pretty happy overall (excluding NY style firms like K&S), but man, all the plaintiffs attorneys I've talked to just hate life. All the attorneys in my firm seem to be pretty happy. But I deal mostly with the ones on the administrative law side. The one PI attorney I see on a regular basis is one of the most genuinely cheery, happy people ever, so take that as you will.
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Nov 16, 2011 06:51
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:I'm the guy whose girl wants to do health law. I asked her what she thinks health law is, and she told me she wants to represent people, not insurance companies. What she said boiled down to "I want to help people get what they deserve from the health care system." Like, people collecting medicare benefits or deductions or whatever? It didn't seem very unified to me. Is this A Thing? Ignore everything between you and me. The answer is no. gently caress no. Laughably, incoherently, undoubtedly no. She is somewhere in the realm of "I want to sue for JESUS for SOMALIA." You don't sue for Jesus for Somalia. And you don't do Weeping Widow Health Care Law. That doesn't exist. On the bright side, you can now break up with this crazy ho for being a crazy ho. At least she's crazy. So you're justified in breaking up with that crazy ho.
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Nov 16, 2011 08:09
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BigHead posted:Ignore everything between you and me. Then yes, you too can be the hero from a John Grisham book! Otherwise, there are less jobs in this than saving international pandas from being eaten by the KKK. Or she can work for Binder and Binder. Those guys on the ad sure seem successful. 
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:I'm the guy whose girl wants to do health law. I asked her what she thinks health law is, and she told me she wants to represent people, not insurance companies. What she said boiled down to "I want to help people get what they deserve from the health care system." Like, people collecting medicare benefits or deductions or whatever? It didn't seem very unified to me. Is this A Thing? My wife is a legit health care attorney. Her practice consists of advising doctors, hospital administrators, and other providers on their billing practices, contracts (space and equipment rentals, physician service agreements) etc. it's highly specialized and while you don't typically represent insurance companies, you're representing doctors so not really people either.
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J Miracle posted:Good thing for this guys girlfriend that you've worked extensively in plaintiff's-side tort litigation, administrative law, and transactional law so that you can give him a really informed opinion about what it is like to do all those jobs. I guess I should have included a disclaimer that I haven't actually worked in any of those jobs, sorry that I appear to have offended you. (Not actually sorry, but you have a point - I could be wrong.)
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currently dealing with a divorce case where one party poisoned the other party's snake. the injured party, snakewise, cannot discuss the matter without bawling family law owns so hard
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Phil Moscowitz posted:My wife is a legit health care attorney. Her practice consists of advising doctors, hospital administrators, and other providers on their billing practices, contracts (space and equipment rentals, physician service agreements) etc. it's highly specialized and while you don't typically represent insurance companies, you're representing doctors so not really people either. Yo Mosco, you going to One Eyed Jack's for the show on Thursday, perchance? If so, I owe you a drink.
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Nov 16, 2011 15:58
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Got a jerb! ~275 attorney firm, guess you would call it midlaw. Thank loving god this whole process is over.
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Omerta posted:Got a jerb! ~275 attorney firm, guess you would call it midlaw. Thank loving god this whole process is over. That's pretty big for midlaw, I would call that "regional Biglaw" or something. But who cares! Congrats!
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Omerta posted:Got a jerb! ~275 attorney firm, guess you would call it midlaw. Thank loving god this whole process is over. Congrats - how many offices?
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sigmachiev posted:Congrats - how many offices? Six, firm has offices in FL/GA/AL. The office I'm going to has about 30 attorneys. I think it pays 5k less than market, which is nice.
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Nov 16, 2011 20:50
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Omerta posted:Got a jerb! ~275 attorney firm, guess you would call it midlaw. Thank loving god this whole process is over. I just call that biglaw. I call what everyone else calls biglaw huge-law or something. Mid-law ends at 100 lawyers.
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entris posted:I guess I should have included a disclaimer that I haven't actually worked in any of those jobs, sorry that I appear to have offended you. Not really offended just found it kind of funny that you basically poo poo on litigation, admin, and transactional work in one post. Which come to think of it is totally valid
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Nov 16, 2011 23:28
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Stunt Rock posted:Yo Mosco, you going to One Eyed Jack's for the show on Thursday, perchance? If so, I owe you a drink. Naw man, got depos all day
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Nov 16, 2011 23:54
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Omerta posted:Got a jerb! ~275 attorney firm, guess you would call it midlaw. Thank loving god this whole process is over. I told you that you were being a big baby.
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J Miracle posted:Not really offended just found it kind of funny that you basically poo poo on litigation, admin, and transactional work in one post. It certainly does make paying the bills harder unless you work for the government.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Naw man, got depos all day Depo all day, party all night.
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HooKars posted:I told you that you were being a big baby. I was serious though. That was my last callback and I had some consulting interviews coming up. I did appreciate the advice. Now I'm horribly behind on my comment and classes. I can't wait for this semester to be over.
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My section nominated me to be in my school's pie eating contest this Monday, but I'm pissed that the prize isn't more pie.
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MoFauxHawk posted:My section nominated me to be in my school's pie eating contest this Monday, but I'm pissed that the prize isn't more pie. You talked some big talk today about that, I am looking forward to your performance.
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Omerta posted:Now I'm horribly behind on my comment and classes. I can't wait for this semester to be over. Will they revoke your offer if you let your GPA slump significantly? They can't get away with being called anything other than BigLaw if so.
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yronic heroism posted:Will they revoke your offer if you let your GPA slump significantly? They can't get away with being called anything other than BigLaw if so. My biglaw firm didn't even ask for our transcripts, the person I asked about it said they never revoked offers when they used to ask for them, so asking for the transcripts just stressed people out for no reason.
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yronic heroism posted:Will they revoke your offer if you let your GPA slump significantly? They can't get away with being called anything other than BigLaw if so. Didn't ask. If I had a median semester, I'd be slightly outside the top 10%. I'm not worried about my offer getting revoked, I'm pissed I have to do a ton of work in the next 18 days rather than play golf and hit on public health students.
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Omerta posted:Didn't ask. If I had a median semester, I'd be slightly outside the top 10%. I'm not worried about my offer getting revoked, I'm pissed I have to do a ton of work in the next 18 days rather than play golf and hit on public health students. You're a 3L right? You're doing it wrong. Go hit on the public health students. 3L year, if you have a job lined up, is for discovering you can actually wing the final with the table of contents to the book, quick reading skills, and the syllabus for the class.
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