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sellouts posted:I see this and I love it. But the interior.... Come on. What about it? It's pretty functional without looking overly busy.
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I dig it too. Nice gauge layout. Cool aux gauges too.
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Goddamnit carmakers why the hell do you love blue LEDs so much? That poo poo is seriously painful to see.
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So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right? I like it, but I was hoping for a more radical departure from the current design.
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Cream_Filling posted:Goddamnit carmakers why the hell do you love blue LEDs so much? That poo poo is seriously painful to see. VW is seriously the worst, that stupid purple lighting they love so much is god damned awful at night. It's like the went out of their way to pick a color that is most difficult to read in the dark.
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CornHolio posted:So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right? At least they're going away from that stupid double glazing on the hood.
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CornHolio posted:So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right? It's like GM took the previous Corvette and mixed in a healthy dose of Cadillac and a pinch of Ford GT.
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Those Camaro taillights are just not doing it for me. I love the hood and the Cadillacy angular rear end though.
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CornHolio posted:So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right?
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Crustashio posted:http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/14/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-get-350-hp-v6-275-hp-turbo-four Well, that may have sealed the deal for me. The only thing that will stop me from buying this car is if an STI or TRD version of the 86 twins is announced. A rwd turbo 6 speed with 271hp/274ft lbs is just right. Maybe a little low on power for its weight, but I can fix that. And it looks good too. Come on Subaru, show me a pink badge on that trunk.
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I'm all for evolutionary styling, but this seems like they just added a bunch of details on top of the existing shape. If it's real, hopefully it looks better beyond a render.
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Ive owned two vettes and I dont think Ill even begin thinking of getting a third until I see some interior shots of the new beast. If GM phoned it in on seats again, Im done.
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Ziploc posted:Don't forget that the last M5 was available with a 6spd manual in the North American market only. because in Europe there's this thing where every cheap lovely hatchback you've ever owned has been a manual transmission so when you can finally afford to lash out a wad of cash on an ultra-deluxe grown up car it had better well shift its own gears considering the money you're paying.
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Linedance posted:because in Europe Jesus Christ you are a terrible poster. The Camaro is literally the safest car you can buy. http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/14/2012-chevrolet-camaro-becomes-first-car-to-ace-all-nhtsa-safety/
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Throatwarbler posted:Jesus Christ you are a terrible poster. That camaro has the best "Why would you do that to me? I hate you." face on the front from that impact.
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Linedance posted:because in Europe there's this thing where every cheap lovely hatchback you've ever owned has been a manual transmission so when you can finally afford to lash out a wad of cash on an ultra-deluxe grown up car it had better well shift its own gears considering the money you're paying.
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Throatwarbler posted:The Camaro is literally the safest car you can buy. Is it wrong that I want to sit naked in this interior? It looks so comfy and inviting. And not just for a Camaro. I mean look at that shift knob!  
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Throatwarbler posted:Jesus Christ you are a terrible poster. I'll remember that the next time I drive square into an immovable wall at 35mph. Edit: I applaud the good side impact ratings though. I hear these also have good side impact ratings with similar visibility: 
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So this seems pretty outrageous: 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 delivers 650 HP and 200 MPH straight from the factory I wonder what the MSRP will be... The current one stickers for $49k.
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Hog Obituary posted:So this seems pretty outrageous: Huh, they really went and ressurected the 5.8l displacement. Speaking of which, the new Alfa Giullieta which will underpin our neu-Neon looks like it's going to have everything that made the Neon great, like class leading handling and style, but who could forget quote:How would you feel about a $30,000-plus luxury car with leather seats, detailed accent stitching, lustrous and expensive metallic paint, a navigation system, Bose audio -- and hand-cranked rear windows? I wish this car was here yesterday. Never change, Chrysler. 
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That cars biggest flaw is that it's incredibly attractive. This will have to be rectified before it can be sold as a Dodge.
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Hog Obituary posted:So this seems pretty outrageous: So it's doing ZR1 numbers now? SouthLAnd posted:That cars biggest flaw is that it's incredibly attractive. This will have to be rectified before it can be sold as a Dodge. Don't forget about getting rid of that hideous manual transmission too
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69sofine posted:Don't forget about getting rid of that hideous manual transmission too Good point. A 4-speed automatic would certainly go quite a ways to making it more palatable to US drivers.
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69sofine posted:Don't forget about getting rid of that hideous manual transmission too That isn't far from the truth - I don't think Alfa has ever done a decent manual transmission (or auto or semi-auto for that matter).
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dissss posted:That isn't far from the truth - I don't think Alfa has ever done a decent manual transmission (or auto or semi-auto for that matter). I was supposed to be test driving a guilietta with their new Fiat-sourced 'TCT' DSG gearbox, but there were 'manufacturing issues' which delayed the car from ever arriving at the delership and I ended up buying something else. From my experiences with 156's, the issues were probably something along the lines of 'it kept falling out of the car and then exploding'
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SouthLAnd posted:That cars biggest flaw is that it's incredibly attractive. This will have to be rectified before it can be sold as a Dodge. It's also gonna form the basis of whatever replaces the Patroit/Compass. It will, without a doubt, be depressingly ugly.
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69sofine posted:So it's doing ZR1 numbers now? Powerwise, yes. But weight and especially tire-wise, it's giving up a lot. Video of the latest GT500 going around VIR shows how hard it is to get on power with the limited mechanical grip it has now.
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InitialDave posted:Nope. I'll take your word for it, you'd know better than me. That's just the impression I've been given, speaking to friends and coworkers. It could just be because of where I live and work, most people I know who drive spend most of their driving time stuck in traffic on the M4/M25. Everyone does just fine without luxuries like cruise control and automatics, but they all moan wistfully about driving in America/Canada in a big car with a big engine, cruise and automatic. So it follows (in my mind at least) that if you were going to spend big on a luxury car with a big engine you're also going want an auto and cruise control standard, and even if they were options you'd still tick the boxes because why wouldn't you want cruise control on a £80k car?
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Welp, this happened: Camaro ZL1 by the Numbers: 3.9 Seconds, 184 mph, $54,095 I mean, it's a fair price, and the car is going to be an absolute beast. I think it's still a bit high in comparison to the GT500, which starts at $48k in the States. Gotta say I'm a bit bummed, I was hoping it's come in a bit lower... guess I'm relegated to cross shopping the Camaro SS and the Boss Mustang. MrSaturn fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 15, 2011 |
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I didnt see it happening below 50K with Magnetic Ride suspension and all the goodies. That is still a hard cut even against the CTS-V dollar wise. Where this gets fun is what happens with the Corvette now as the C7 draws closer. I can see a lot of people springing for the ZL1 that would normally have went with a Grand Sport. That goes for the Base vette as well as you can deck it out with options and have it up ZL1 cost while not even being close power wise any more. Had the ZL1 existed when I was shopping vettes I would have probably ended up with one.
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Linedance posted:I'll take your word for it, you'd know better than me. That's just the impression I've been given, speaking to friends and coworkers. It could just be because of where I live and work, most people I know who drive spend most of their driving time stuck in traffic on the M4/M25. Everyone does just fine without luxuries like cruise control and automatics, but they all moan wistfully about driving in America/Canada in a big car with a big engine, cruise and automatic. So it follows (in my mind at least) that if you were going to spend big on a luxury car with a big engine you're also going want an auto and cruise control standard, and even if they were options you'd still tick the boxes because why wouldn't you want cruise control on a £80k car? Now, DCTs and the like, that's a different kettle of fish. I personally don't see the appeal, but I can also see how they aren't necessarily in direct opposition to the idea of a driver's car. VVVV: Fastest isn't necessarily more fun. InitialDave fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Nov 15, 2011 |
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Edit: ^^ isn't the appeal of DCT's faster shifting and therefore faster everything?CornHolio posted:So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right? I'm interested and glad it's not a huge departure, and I realize the base model won't be quite so frilly, but does anyone know if those are second windows or just black panels that start after the normal windows? I kind of like the rear window being flat instead of the curved wrap around one because it's tough to wipe at a gas station without streaking.
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Matlock posted:What about it? It's pretty functional without looking overly busy. The giant blue screen looks overly large, it's distractingly bright, and the blue doesn't match the blue on the rest of the gauges. I just think the whole thing sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Franco Caution posted:Where this gets fun is what happens with the Corvette now as the C7 draws closer. I can see a lot of people springing for the ZL1 that would normally have went with a Grand Sport. That goes for the Base vette as well as you can deck it out with options and have it up ZL1 cost while not even being close power wise any more.
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CornHolio posted:So, surely you guys saw the renderings of the next Corvette, right? I'm down with everything up until the B pillar. Afterwards, it's just awful. Why in god's name would you mess with the wraparound rear glass? What, were the rear passengers complaining? Is it a 2+2 now? Is it just cost-cutting? I mean, hell, now that the Camaro is back, aren't they going to move the pricing up on Corvette? The C pillar makes the rear quarter look fat up top, while completely ruining that clean vertical B-pillar cutline that helped make the C6 look so tidy. The tapered, teardrop greenhouse of the old Corvette almost evoked the top of an LMP car. How it just looks like a smushed Camaro or the R35 GT-R The added rear quarter window and blackout B-pillars also mean that the greenhouse looks sort of jumbled - things don't really flow or anything. The shapes from the door panel lines or the top of the new flat rear window don't really line up with anything. There might be some small gains in terms of structural rigidity, maybe, but the new one better be a hell of a lot faster to make up for the fact that it's uglier. Somewhere in some GM office, there is a humorless beancounter dancing a jig because they finally got rid of that nasty expensive custom fabricated rear glass and there aren't any remaining executives who actually give a poo poo about cars to give the Corvette a pass on the ever-important GM design guidelines in regards to passenger compartment dimensions and window placement.     The change to the side profile is atrocious. And the Camaro rear lights don't even make sense to me - why the hell would you want to remind people of your cheaper counterpart? Especially with that lame-looking trunk spoiler. The round taillights were pretty unique among modern cars, and also gently caress rectangles. The rear quarter panels in general also look more Camaro-y, especially since the 'scooped' rear-end look carried over from the C5 is now replaced by a more conventional box shape. I hope to god that was done for aero reasons, though I sort of doubt it.  
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US 500 Abarth!!!  160 hp, 170 lb-ft, 5-speed manualI've been waiting for this car for two years and now I'm in a situation where I really shouldn't buy one. 
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hedge posted:US 500 Abarth!!! I'm completely disappointed. I remember hearing a while back that the U.S. was going to get a substantial power increase. I also don't see why such a small engine doesn't have a six-speed gearbox.
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oRenj9 posted:I'm completely disappointed. I remember hearing a while back that the U.S. was going to get a substantial power increase. I also don't see why such a small engine doesn't have a six-speed gearbox. The standard 500 Abarth has 135hp in Europe, 160hp with the SS pack. You get 160hp standard in the US and probably 180hp with the SS pack. Isn't that a significant power increase? It has a 5-speed gearbox because Fiat doesn't have a 6-speed gearbox that's small enough to not completely murder the turn radius, yet beefy enough to take the power. Space is VERY limited. The Multiair engine is has plenty of torque that you won't miss the 6th gear.
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