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kaujot posted:Oh hey, Combofiend and Fanatiq ran a set. That's absolutely hilarious that Combo was literally winning with just Hawkeye and Spencer the first few sets. Spot some free meter for Fanatiq.
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Yeah, Nemesis just... sucks? actually hes top tier.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:29
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Tae posted:That's absolutely hilarious that Combo was literally winning with just Hawkeye and Spencer the first few sets. Spot some free meter for Fanatiq. Fanatiq's saltiness was funny as well. I'll miss Combofiend's Vanilla team though. So many epic moments. 
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Nov 16, 2011 21:29
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Nova seems like a fun character! Anyone know the details behind his powered up QCF specials? Like, projectile durability, when L and M wall bounce, etc.… I'd check myself if my strategy guide wasn't arriving next month.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:34
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I got completely bodied by Nova and Vergil in ranked matches last night. Playing trenchcoated characters is against my religion but thankfully playing cosmic cops isn't. Gotta learn that Nova.
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Nov 16, 2011 21:48
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Anybody have any initial impressions of Ghost Rider? I'd like to use him because he's metal as gently caress and I like his OTG assists, but he seems like kind of a one trick pony on point and I can't see people falling for his bullshit very long. I also seem to have trouble with some of his basic stuff like linking jumping S into standing heavy or timing standing heavy after a wall bounce. Do you guys think he'll be worth polishing or should I move on? The team I'm hoping to run is Wright/Rider/Dorm. Ofcourse it's gonna be gimmicky with Wright involved. Dorm is there because I want his Dark Hole assist to cover for Wright looking for evidence and he's also metal as gently caress. I'd really like Ghost Rider to have a role in there but I'm having doubts.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:00
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I'm glad part of your reason for choosing characters is that they are metal as gently caress. Consider picking Sentinel. He's pretty much all metal, all the time. As gently caress.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:07
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Bosushi! posted:Anybody have any initial impressions of Ghost Rider? I'd like to use him because he's metal as gently caress and I like his OTG assists, but he seems like kind of a one trick pony on point and I can't see people falling for his bullshit very long. I also seem to have trouble with some of his basic stuff like linking jumping S into standing heavy or timing standing heavy after a wall bounce. Do you guys think he'll be worth polishing or should I move on? I'm currently using Nova/Rider/Wright (Dick and the Nicks). Missile Assist + Nova = Unblockable Village. Missile Assist + Ghost Rider = Unblockable City. Nova Overhead Assist + Ghost Rider = gently caress Mountain. Nova does incredibly well with assists that cover a lot of horizontal space, mainly because his airdashes go fullscreen. Ghost Rider can turn any fullscreen unblockable into 500k. That's not much, but it's a start. Also, NecroMonster, thanks. I can't be damned to do a flight cancel combo under pressure for 50k more damage, but I can sure as hell do a basic relaunch for 30k more.
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Bosushi! posted:Anybody have any initial impressions of Ghost Rider? I'd like to use him because he's metal as gently caress and I like his OTG assists, but he seems like kind of a one trick pony on point and I can't see people falling for his bullshit very long. I also seem to have trouble with some of his basic stuff like linking jumping S into standing heavy or timing standing heavy after a wall bounce. Do you guys think he'll be worth polishing or should I move on? One trick pony? Bullshit? Ghost Rider doesn't have anything like that, he's just all really solid zoning is all.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:11
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So I think Nemesis rocket launcher in the air isn't too bad of a move. It's easy to miss with it of course, but it doesn't take too long to come out and you can blast people that are air dashing towards you out of the sky. Well, that was my experience anyways. His ground rocket launcher is kinda lovely, it just flies over everything that isn't 'tall' Also I thought I could make Nemesis down Hard after a command grab, but I couldn't make it connect later last night. Was I hallucinating?
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TaurusOxford posted:Fanatiq's saltiness was funny as well. I'll miss Combofiend's Vanilla team though. So many epic moments. Yeah, I hope he drops Nemesis for She-Hulk again eventually. His team's synergy was just disgustingly good, and they all had a ton of health.
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Tae posted:That's absolutely hilarious that Combo was literally winning with just Hawkeye and Spencer the first few sets. Spot some free meter for Fanatiq. Funny how he kept picking Nemesis even though it was basically meatshield for the other team to waste meter on. Hawkeye is looking loving sick in everything, he really does make every team better
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Revitalized posted:So I think Nemesis rocket launcher in the air isn't too bad of a move. It's easy to miss with it of course, but it doesn't take too long to come out and you can blast people that are air dashing towards you out of the sky. Well, that was my experience anyways. He can connect down hard off of his medium and heavy command grabs but not his light one. His light one's range is pretty short compared to the air grabs and is pretty lack luster over all really.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:15
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Broken Loose posted:I'm currently using Nova/Rider/Wright (Dick and the Nicks). I have absolutely no idea how you can use Wright as an anchor with no evidence.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:18
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Had a lot of fun in the tourney last night. It was much more enjoyable than just playing random ranked or player fights. Hopefully I'll be able to participate in the next one.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:19
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I have absolutely no idea how you can use Wright as an anchor with no evidence. I'm more confused about how he claims he has the Nicks but Sentinel is nowhere to be found.
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Just had a thought: it's now possible to construct a team of characters who've banged She-Hulk.  Edit: Since it'll inevitably be asked: Hawkeye (in the Battleworld alternate reality) Iron Man (main Earth-616 reality) Hulk (in the Old Man Logan mini-series). Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 16, 2011 |
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Nov 16, 2011 22:22
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Countblanc posted:I'm more confused about how he claims he has the Nicks but Sentinel is nowhere to be found. Phoenix Wright - Nick Ghost Rider - Nic Cage Nova - his first name in the comics is Richard
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Nov 16, 2011 22:23
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The Midniter posted:Phoenix Wright - Nick Pretty sure he knows that.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:25
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NecroMonster posted:One trick pony? Bullshit? My line of thinking was that Riders jumping S could become the new Tron's jumping C. It'll catch some people when your fishing with it, but people with skill will be looking for it. Thanks, Broken Loose. I was gonna use Press the Witness for invincible assist shenanigans but I may have to switch to Missle. I still want Phoenix on point to start off, but maybe Wright in second wouldn't be too bad if Rider can take out a character before evidence gathering begins.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:27
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I have absolutely no idea how you can use Wright as an anchor with no evidence. I'm just using him for the assist lol
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Broken Loose posted:I'm just using him for the assist lol Might as well just use Felica then. Although there's no good team name out of that I suppose.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:29
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Hawkeye is looking really strong. Guided Arrow super can counter a lot of stuff and pick up assists since it's so fuckin' fast, that slide is very annoying and can lead to relatively damagng combos, the Scatter Shot super can send people away on block, OTG and combo into Guided Arrow, IIRC, his zoning tools are pretty strong and there's Poison Arrow too. If he's not high-tier, at the very least he'll be one of the most annoying characters in the game. He's like my dream character, he has a slide that leads to counter-hit setups, a lot of keepaway crap, a really fast projectile super, isn't slow as molasses...the only thing he's missing is Ouroboros, otherwise I'd marry the guy.
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I wonder if it's just the first week the reason why people aren't using poison instead of ice arrow before using the fast super for Hawkeye.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Might as well just use Felica then. Although there's no good team name out of that I suppose. A Dick, a pussy, and Ghost Rider.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:40
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Might as well just use Felica then. Although there's no good team name out of that I suppose. I actually considered Felicia, Deadpool, or X-23 for the position, but it's really hard to argue with a low hitting projectile over just lows. Missile has better range, Wright appears behind my point (like Doom does during Plasma Beam assist) which leaves him less vulnerable, and if my opponent attempts to trade with me I have a much better chance of coming out on top. Plus, Wright has more health and better damage output than any of those characters. And I really hate Felicia's voice. And I already fell for the X-23 trap once and never intend to do that again. Brother Entropy posted:A Dick, a pussy, and Ghost Rider. The other name for the team was "Phoenix's Riders"
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So... in Desk's new combo video PW goes from no evidence, to all evidence, to turnabout mode, to level 3, in the same combo.
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Veev posted:He can connect down hard off of his medium and heavy command grabs but not his light one. His light one's range is pretty short compared to the air grabs and is pretty lack luster over all really. Yeah I just found out in training mode. Oh well. Guess I should learn to completely avoid using his light grab.
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Hawkeye is a loving monster. That dude can just cover the loving screen with arrows. Day 1 top tier imo. My team for right now is Strange/Storm/Sent (Team S+++). It is really really strong and I'm already having more fun than I ever did in vanilla. Here's why this team (and especially Doc Strange) own(s). For a supposed zoning character, Dr. Strange can be a really hard character to block. You can do jump back L dagger of denak, get hit on the way down only for them to get hit by the dagger and give you a free combo. His teleport is stupid fast and sets up pressure with Sent's drones assist really well. Here's my Dr. Strange bnb for right now: cr.LM impact palm xx grace of hoggoth (L version midscreen for mixups, M version in corner for relaunch), cr.HS sj.MMHS (in the corner you can get a relaunch if you use M glyph). If you set up with a L glyph you can do flames of the faltine after the sj.S and then teleport for a really tricky solo ambiguous crossup. Strange and Storm are best friends. They DHC back and forth to each other really really well, and having spell of vishanti DHC hailstorm available helps Strange's (not great) damage output a lot. If Strange is getting rushed down hard and he's about to die, seven rings DHC hailstorm is an awesome oh-poo poo button. Storm is really loving amazing in UMVC3 simply by virtue of not having been nerfed at all. She has by far the fastest trijump in the game that I know of, and Storm/Sent still have great synergy even without the DHC glitch. It kinda goes without saying that Sent drones are amazing. It's kind of the ideal horizontal space-control assist for Dr. Strange because they go fullscreen, aren't a true blockstring (is this still true) and don't knock down on hit, which lets the Doc do cool impact palm combos. I haven't watched any match vids and I don't have the ultimate bible yet, so all this is stuff I found on my own. Does anyone know if Dr. Strange can get a solo relaunch without having to set up a red glyph?
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Spell of Vishanti is so awesome. If it wasn't for Hawkeye's Gimlet, I'd say it's the best new hyper
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Magil of Shadow posted:So, Amazon finally sent me my DLC code for the "New Age of Heroes" pack....problem is, I use none of the characters in said DLC. Anyone care to make a swap of it? If you still have the dlc code, I have a femme fatale pack for you. which system?
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I got the game but haven't had a chance to play it yet; when are the costume packs available as DLC outside of the redemption codes? Immediately, or is there a future release date?
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Does anyone have any tips for controlling air combos with Vergil? Guys are always falling out of my poo poo and I can't discern why...
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The Rokstar posted:So... in Desk's new combo video PW goes from no evidence, to all evidence, to turnabout mode, to level 3, in the same combo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkatC5wnb4w For the record, this combo builds something in the neighborhood of 2.5 meters. I stand by my position that Phoenix Wright is going to be bananas when this game gets rolling. It doesn't matter how many gimmicks you put in between the game and the players-- when a character has that much power, love will find a way. Frank is going to be almost as if not equally frightening once he gets figured out, too.
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drat that Hawkeye is too good... definitely a new 2nd on my team.
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After playing him a bit more, I think Iron Fist will be an absolutely beastly character in the right hands. He deals a ton of damage and has some good mixup options when the opponent is cornered by assists. The guide was wrong on one point though. It says that his Chi power up does not affect his level 3. It does work, but only if you cancel your Chi directly into your level 3, otherwise it runs out near the end. So this is only really possible after you crumple a foe but it does work. Liking my side team of Iron Fist/Vergil/Spencer. Cat Machine posted:Does anyone have any tips for controlling air combos with Vergil? Guys are always falling out of my poo poo and I can't discern why... Near the end of Vergil combos you tend to run up right near the end of hit-stun deterioration. You can usually go j.H into dj.h with no problems so if you think it's getting a bit long, just end it right there. What combos are you trying to do?
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Why are people comparing Wright to Dark Phoenix? They're like, complete opposites (unless you think "has a powerful mode" means they are identical).
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AXE COP posted:Why are people comparing Wright to Dark Phoenix? They're like, complete opposites (unless you think "has a powerful mode" means they are identical). Because people are sleeping on the former as a worthless gimmick even though he has access to an alternate mode which can allow him to trash any character in the game without effort. Which is exactly what happened to the latter when FTW came out (health is too low, meter is too necessary, just snap her in, etc).
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AXE COP posted:Why are people comparing Wright to Dark Phoenix? They're like, complete opposites (unless you think "has a powerful mode" means they are identical). They are both named Phoenix,they both have power up modes and theres a possibility that both will still leave people very bitter about them.
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