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Pastrymancy posted:Well, apparently it's 700 calories so probably "Ansrew" was a typo someone made of "Andrew" once. For whatever reason, people ran with it and it became this whole thing about Andrew having an evil twin.
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:There are many reasons to believe that she does; and they're not related. Genetically they're John and Jade's parents. They're paradox clones of themselves, and the ectobiology machinery made John and Jade by mixing them. Although given the seemingly familial resemblance they have anyway, one could probably be forgiven for assuming otherwise.
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:There are many reasons to believe that she does; and they're not related. Genetically they're John and Jade's parents. They're paradox clones of themselves, and the ectobiology machinery made John and Jade by mixing them. (That was, of course, in the pre-scratch session, but what we've seen so far strongly suggests that these guys somehow arrived on the same meteors from the old session rather than having been created at some point in their own upcoming session.) We seriously still don't know this. It could be that this session has its own ectobiology session where the same items are available and the order of ectobiology is reversed so that the guardians are products of the kids, not the other way around. I have only seen circumstantial, explainable evidence for this "one ecto-biology session for both game sessions" theory and while it's a live hypothesis we don't want to go assuming just yet. We won't know until we get some clearer confirmation disqualifying one of the possibilities. Although that'd certainly make the shipping grid more lively.
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Nov 17, 2011 15:25
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I don't think the situation with the meteors could be more strongly telegraphed without the story straight out stating what happened. It wouldn't make any sense to happen the way you're describing.
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Nov 17, 2011 15:37
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Oh, yeah, it certainly hasn't been explicitly confirmed or anything. It just seems to be the likeliest explanation at this point given the evidence. And I do think that the genetic relationships won't change even if something else is going on, although of course I could be wrong about that, too. (I'm just hoping Maplehoof somehow survived the impact this time around so that Dave has a mighty steed whereon to ride across the land righting wrongs wherever he finds them, or possibly rustling cattle. Or whatever.) H.P. Shivcraft posted:And don't forget that Nannasprite said she and Grandpa were meant to be together in some cosmically destined romance that pre-scratch Betty Crocker fouled up by driving Li'l Grandpa away. Yeah, that was one of the reasons I was alluding to. There's got to be something to it, although it could have just been the Condesce's unclear understanding of John and Jade's origins or something.
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TG: drinking TG: prensent tense TG: grammar jane I love these short term callbacks  Also, this is the best typo correction: TG: is that waht you want TG: *want We also don't "know" that the Condesce is Betty Crocker yet, but it sure is being freaking telegraphed right now. I think Lalonde has been awake on Derse before the game and has heard the horrorterrors. She's Gnostalgic like Jade was Gnostic and is clued in on the Batterwitch's plans
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Nov 17, 2011 15:44
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UU did describe the two sets of heroes as sharing "mutual progenitoriety." That doesn't really point to anything one way or the other--the original 4 kids may not literally be progenitors of the scratchkids, but they are figuratively--but the possibility is out there for additional paradox clone shenanigans.
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quote:TG: i dont get a lotta mail out here and im no mail expret It did always bug me how Hussie used those incorrectly in the comic...
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Nov 17, 2011 15:49
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quote:TG: all those That was my favorite bit in one long unbroken chain of favorite bits. Mom Lalonde is ALL KINDS of the best character.
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Nov 17, 2011 15:51
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And just like that, we're back in business. Best pesterlog i've read in a long time.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:18
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There's already this Tumblr backlash against Lalonde on account of the character is allegedly glamorizing alcoholism, and omg she's a teen getting plastered. I don't have a dog in this hunt, but maybe it'd jangle on some bad nerves for someone whose life was wrecked by alcoholism? Still, pesterlog owns.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:36
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Snollygoster posted:There's already this Tumblr backlash against Lalonde on account of the character is allegedly glamorizing alcoholism, and omg she's a teen getting plastered. I don't have a dog in this hunt, but maybe it'd jangle on some bad nerves for someone whose life was wrecked by alcoholism? My mother was an alcoholic and drank herself to death and the pesterlog didn't bother me at all. If some teenager starts drinking, let me tell you it's not Homestuck that put the idea in their heads.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:42
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Seeing as the comic already has a 13 year old psycho drug addict spree killer, a 15 year old drinker is hardly breaking new ground. That said I'm a bit ambivalent about it but I'm willing to see how it goes / not care that much even if it is played straight for laughs.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:43
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Andrew Hussie does not condone underage drinking. That said, this pesterlog was awesome.
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Have we ruled out that the Condesce might actually be UU, leading Jane on like a chump? All's we know so far is that she can read trollscript (From the act 6 flash), that she is a she, and that she certainly has a lot of personality in common with Feferi. She DID say that she wasn't even in the same universe, and my gut says that isn't a lie, but not lying ever is Doc Scratch's gimmick.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:45
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I honestly don't know which log was funnier: Dave and Tavros, Dave, John and Karkat, or this. If Dave, Karkat and kidMom ever meet, it would signal then end of the comic. Hussie wouldn't be able to top himself.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:49
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Cavatica posted:I honestly don't know which log was funnier: Dave and Tavros, Dave, John and Karkat, or this. If Dave, Karkat and kidMom ever meet, it would signal then end of the comic. Hussie wouldn't be able to top himself.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:53
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Snollygoster posted:I don't have a dog in this hunt, but maybe it'd jangle on some bad nerves for someone whose life was wrecked by alcoholism? God forbid we all take a step back and realize that while we all have things in our past that have made us sensitive to some topics, not everyone shares those sensitivities (and probably doesn't care about yours). Not blasting you Snollygoster, you were just the latest person to comment on it. MSPA is a humorous COMIC, and pokes fun at a myriad of topics people could be upset about. So if you are legitimately offended by turning an early theme of a character's alcoholism on it's head, maybe you should keep it to yourself.
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Amazing: In a comic where there's a paody of Jesus Christ, a drugged-out 13-year old gets sober and murders a bunch of people, a girl enjoys murdering people in order to feed to a spider monster, and the entire human race is exterminated, the thing that gets people up in arms is... a 15-year old drinking.
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Okay if she's this great all the time, the young Mom Lalonde is in fact my new favorite character. It's like a drunk female Dave. Fantastic. Bro is gonna be weird though, I can't even imagine what he's like. I'm glad all three of these 'new' kids so far have had fun personalities without too heavily retreading any existing characters, while still keeping a lot of what made them distinctly unique from when they were 'older' pre-scratch. Also stealing the 'drinking. present tense. grammar, jane' thing for every time I'm drunk and someone feels like pointing it out to me. Fantastic.
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Nov 17, 2011 16:58
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At some point after they enter the Medium, Kidmom will run out of booze. Expecting to see some cool Gamzee callbacks in the ensuing epic hangover.
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The thing is, this isn't really teenage alcoholism like you'd see in an afterschool special. This has been the case from the start, but the kids talk and act like adults except in circumstances where they need to act like kids. It's like Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes. He has the interests and hobbies of a 6 year old, but he philosophizes like an adult most of the time. You just accept that he's still supposed to be a 6 year old kid. No 13 year old in the world talks like Rose or Dave, you just suspend your disbelief that these characters are actually not adults. Kidmom drinks like an adult and then talks like a 15 year old girl and the juxtaposition is pretty funny. There's no need to read into it any further. Note: This does not make it okay to have romantic feelings toward any of the characters. You are a bad person if you do.
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quote:GG: Where have you been today? I love how kidMom just totally ignores Jane's correction the first time. That right there already implies so much characterization it's amazing - you just know they've had these exact sorts of moments tons of times. 
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Admiral Lasers posted:I don't think they know that they're related! They're not. Their genetic information was "mixed" to create the kids from the previous session. That means they're not related, lest the kids themselves are sadly inbred. Jake and Jane in the previous session were raised as siblings, but weren't actually related. Each is the paradox clone of themselves.
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Nthing kidMom is the best mom. She... she really surpassed my hopes. I do have to wonder though: does this mean the whole passive aggressive war between Rose and Mom was genuine? Or is all the passive aggressiveness on Rose's side, and Mom (kid or adult) is just too belligerently sincere to care? She's got a lot of Dave in her, but the irony seems only skin-deep. Like she seems pretty straight-forward, just hilarious and blunt. You know, like a drunk (drinking) person.
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Mom said "p sure". Love it. I still think the Jane/Jake/teen Mom/teen Bro from the new session later becomes Nanna/Grandpa/Mom/Bro that we all are familiar with, and that John/Rose/Dave/Jade end up becoming Poppop/Grandma/teen Mom's mom/teen Bro's bro. The reason SBaHJ exists in the new universe is because Dave made it to the new session, saw a void in the movie market, and filled it.
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Jane, Jake, Lil' Strider and Lil' Lalonde are not related. They're paradox clones and are only clones of themselves. John & Jade are the paradox children of Jane and Jake. Rose & Dave are the paradox children of Lil' Strider and Lil' Lalonde. Hussie has made this abundantly clear in explicitly stating these facts and in referencing the implications that Jane & Jake were supposed to be romantically destined for each other. The children, on the flipside, must follow Karkat's brilliant breeding program. :>
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Starmaker posted:I do have to wonder though: does this mean the whole passive aggressive war between Rose and Mom was genuine? Or is all the passive aggressiveness on Rose's side, and Mom (kid or adult) is just too belligerently sincere to care? She's got a lot of Dave in her, but the irony seems only skin-deep. Like she seems pretty straight-forward, just hilarious and blunt. You know, like a drunk (drinking) person. I think Rose's Mom was being sincere and ScratchRose wound up being sincere to KidMom or something like that. If it wound up that Mom really WAS being passive-aggressive I think it would weaken Rose's earlier characterization of calling out John's relationship with his supportive dad without recognizing that her mom was doing basically the same thing and she couldn't admit it.
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Well I just had the best realisation ever. The universe has been reset, and so has the Sburb session, right? Courtyard Droll is still alive
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Hammer Backspace posted:Well I just had the best realisation ever. The universe has been reset, and so has the Sburb session, right? He'll make his boss happy one day 
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Waffnuffly posted:I think Rose's Mom was being sincere and ScratchRose wound up being sincere to KidMom or something like that. If it wound up that Mom really WAS being passive-aggressive I think it would weaken Rose's earlier characterization of calling out John's relationship with his dad without recognizing that her mom was doing basically the same thing and she couldn't admit it. Kidmom seems to be good at detecting ploys/conspiracies, but then goes along with them anyways. Like she sees Rosemom leaving alcohol around as passive aggressive mindgame bait, but she goes ahead and drinks anyways. I think that's what Mom was doing with Rose. She recognized that her daughter was trying to play these passive aggressive mind games. She didn't have any personal interest in them, but she played along because she knew that it made her daughter happy I think she'd make a much better Seer than Rose did.
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Man I just realized something I am really looking forward to: finding out what the kids are going to prototype their Kernelsprites with, and the shenanigns involved with that! I am giddy with anticipation *shenanigans HalfHazard fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Nov 17, 2011 |
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HalfHazard posted:Man I just realized something I am really looking forward to: finding out what the kids are going to prototype their Kernelsprites with, and the shenanigns involved with that! I am giddy with anticipation *Jake approaches kernelsprite with loved one's remains in hand* *pre-scratch kids and trolls appear out of nowhere* "It's cool dude WE GOT THIS" *Vriska's corpse is thrown into kernel*
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Supercar Gautier posted:*Vriska's corpse is thrown into kernel* "WH8T D8D Y8U DOOOOOOOO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
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creationist believer posted:Kidmom seems to be good at detecting ploys/conspiracies, but then goes along with them anyways. Like she sees Rosemom leaving alcohol around as passive aggressive mindgame bait, but she goes ahead and drinks anyways. I think that's what Mom was doing with Rose. She recognized that her daughter was trying to play these passive aggressive mind games. She didn't have any personal interest in them, but she played along because she knew that it made her daughter happy Yeah this is my favorite interpretation. That's what I meant by "belligerently sincere." Either that or she just doesn't give a gently caress - like she really liked Rose's drawing of Jaspers and welded it to the fridge to make Rose happy, who misinterpreted it, and then Mom just kinda went along with it because whatever. Like, she's smart and observant, she just doesn't give a poo poo. God dammit one pester log and she's already my favorite character.
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Supercar Gautier posted:*Vriska's corpse is thrown into kernel* I would love for this to happen just so the fandom could implode. Now that I think about it, as funny as kidMom was, my favorite line out of the whole thing was Jane posted:So even if your insane and paranoid theory happens to be true, your response is, "Screw it! Time to help myself to all this mind game booze." I just need a hero-mode of kidMom doing something drunk, and then I'll have a new avatar.
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Cavatica posted:I would love for this to happen just so the fandom could implode. Forget about the fandom--think about Jade's reaction, given Jake's tastes. "Jade, I'd like you to meet your new stepnanna..."
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Regy Rusty posted:He put an "Ansrew" reference in the comic. My god. Apparently the ansrew thing is based on a misspelling on the forums somewhere (specific info requested if anyone has it). What's the Dr. Brinner thing? e: it was on PM's letter. It appears to be something absurdly dense involved with the mspa forums. I think my ability in all real and hypothetical planes of existence to give a poo poo is being nullified. e2: I still want to know. Fagtastic fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Nov 17, 2011 |
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