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fenix424 posted:Got to see my two favorite bands this year Taking Back Sunday and Alkaline Trio twice and all three shows I've been to so far have all been awesome. The 2nd Alkaline Trio show is their NYE show at the Metro in Chicago which should be amazing. However, on a date a few months back a girl I was with said my playlist needs some updating. That probably came from my most played bands being TBS, Alk3, The Academy Is, Fall Out Boy, and Four Year Strong. Give me some good suggestions Goons! You'd probably fare better in the scenecore megathread with these bands  : http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3268377&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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Quantumfate posted:Based on that: Get Up Kids, Cap'n Jazz, Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World's Self Titled, Sicko, Mineral, The Pine, American Football, MXPX, Grown Ups? Echoing all of these and the ones that were posted on the last page. I still listen to pretty much all these bands on a regular basis still.
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Eight Is Legend posted:You'd probably fare better in the scenecore megathread with these bands Except none of those bands are scenecore? Pretty certain they're pop/alternative bands with emo leanings, especially alkaline trio. rivals posted:Echoing all of these and the ones that were posted on the last page. I still listen to pretty much all these bands on a regular basis still. Yeah, Braid especially is awesome. The pine however, is Beyond Awesome. Also Cap'n Jazz  Edit: Actually some more suggestions! If you're feeling like branching out a little try Moss Icon, Indian Summer, Love Like Electrocution, Unwound and Eu Serei a Hiena Quantumfate fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Nov 16, 2011 |
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Quantumfate posted:Based on that: Get Up Kids, Cap'n Jazz, Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World's Self Titled, Sicko, Mineral, The Pine, American Football, MXPX, Grown Ups? The Bleed American JEW self-titled that is, not the first one that's bad.
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Dickeye posted:The Bleed American JEW self-titled that is, not the first one that's bad. Sorry, but no. I think pretty much everything that comes after static prevails was horrible. The first self titled was great 
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Came across this today, getting a definite Xerxes/ Loma Prieta vibe from it so far; ch-ch-check it out. http://forgetme.bandcamp.com/
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Quantumfate posted:Except none of those bands are scenecore? Pretty certain they're pop/alternative bands with emo leanings, especially alkaline trio. Scenecore Megathread is made for bands like Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, The Academy Is..., Four Year Strong and so on, while also being there for funny observations about bands like Attack Attack! and Abandon All Ships.
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Quantumfate posted:Sorry, but no. I think pretty much everything that comes after static prevails was horrible. The first self titled was great Clarity's pretty good, albeit probably the pussiest album that I'll admit to enjoying.
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fenix424 posted:Got to see my two favorite bands this year Taking Back Sunday and Alkaline Trio twice and all three shows I've been to so far have all been awesome. The 2nd Alkaline Trio show is their NYE show at the Metro in Chicago which should be amazing. However, on a date a few months back a girl I was with said my playlist needs some updating. That probably came from my most played bands being TBS, Alk3, The Academy Is, Fall Out Boy, and Four Year Strong. Give me some good suggestions Goons! For that clean sound with tiny aspects of HC like TBS I've always put Funeral for a Friend and Boys Night Out in the same category. Along the lines of Alkaline Trio Saves the Day, The Arrivals or Hay Market Riot might meet your goals. Also Lawrence Arms.....everyone here seems to hate them but they are the best. punxnbutter fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Nov 17, 2011 |
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7lip posted:Came across this today, getting a definite Xerxes/ Loma Prieta vibe from it so far; ch-ch-check it out. Hey, this is my band! It's free!
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Nov 17, 2011 23:00
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Quantumfate posted:Sorry, but no. I think pretty much everything that comes after static prevails was horrible. The first self titled was great The gently caress outta my house, Bleed American is a great album.
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Couch Life posted:Hey, this is my band! It's free! this is fantastic, great job
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Thanks for all the suggestions! I should also that Streetlight Manifesto, BAMF!, and Coheed and Cambria make appearances on my most played lists but I'm definitely trying to check out new stuff. Shame that a lot of this is associated with HT... Last time I was in one was when they were 'goth' stores back when I was in high school.
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Dickeye posted:The gently caress outta my house, Bleed American is a great album. I used to think that album was a lot better than I do now, but Bleed American is still a fantastic song.
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I guess bleed american is alright lyrically but gently caress. Just gently caress. I cannot bring myself to enjoy adkins vocals as much. Although being fair with dumb lyrics if the pine wasn't so goddamn incredible it'd be rough. Days slipping on by slippy slip slippity slip slip
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Quantumfate posted:I guess bleed american is alright lyrically but gently caress. Just gently caress. I cannot bring myself to enjoy adkins vocals as much. Although being fair with dumb lyrics if the pine wasn't so goddamn incredible it'd be rough. Days slipping on by slippy slip slippity slip slip Static Prevails is my favorite JEW album. Along with that, I think their second self-titled album was the divisive change in sound between their emo beginnings and their pop-influenced future. Clarity was an amazing album and I will admit to listening to it much more than I should, simply because it was a beautiful, well-paced album and everything second self-titled and afterwards always felt like a different band (which I still enjoy from time to time...) Edit: Bleed American is an awesome song. I agree on the Adkins' vocals but usually I am screaming the lyrics so loudly in my truck I can't really hear them.
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Quantumfate posted:Yeah, Braid especially is awesome. The pine however, is Beyond Awesome. Also Cap'n Jazz You know, I don't think I ever really gave The Pine enough of a chance. I have that 7" they did with La Quiete but that's all I've ever really heard of them. I should check out more.
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Who wants to recommend me some more poo poo like Pianos Become the Teeth, Joan of Arc, and Cap'n Jazz? Liquid Courage and Oh Messy Life are two of my favorite songs right now and I can't stop playing them.
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The Judas Iscariot (90's jazzy drum&bass hardcore out of NY, not the black metal band) recently unearthed and uploaded a 14 year old album that never saw the light of day. It's been growing on me, because it fully rips. http://thejudasiscariot.bandcamp.com/album/the-lost-prophets It's a little less gritty and sloppy than their other stuff, but they make up for it with some excellent jazz sax trax. It's overall more solid than the split with Seein' Red, and that's a record I own two presses of.
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I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? We're The Germs considered hardcore or punk?
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casual poster posted:I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? Converge is definitely Metalcore, but I hear a lot of comments from the hardcore scene that Converge is a band they can still get into. I know the band members just consider themselves punk and it shows in their work ethic and style, I think. The Germs are hardcore punk, but they blur the lines a lot between punk and hardcore punk, which was common for early hardcore bands to do (and still is with some). I tend to enjoy that kind of hardcore although I do enjoy listening to Charles Bronson or something like that every once in a while.
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I wouldn't call Kylesa hardcore really. I'm afraid to comment on what kind of hardcore from the 90s I listened to 
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Tom Pridgen posted:Converge is definitely Metalcore, but I hear a lot of comments from the hardcore scene that Converge is a band they can still get into. I know the band members just consider themselves punk and it shows in their work ethic and style, I think. Converge is weird because while pretty much everybody will say they're metalcore, it seems like all of their fans are hardcore fans, rather than metalcore fans.
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Inspector_71 posted:Converge is weird because while pretty much everybody will say they're metalcore, it seems like all of their fans are hardcore fans, rather than metalcore fans. I know that describes me. I have some metalcore in my collection but I certainly only return to Converge. When I have a desire to listen to metal I usually listen to some classic black or death. If I'm looking for more of a punk influence I usually end up putting on some thrashcore or grind records like rear endück or some of the stuff on Earache, but that playlist always includes Converge.
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fenix424 posted:Thanks for all the suggestions! I should also that Streetlight Manifesto, BAMF!, and Coheed and Cambria make appearances on my most played lists but I'm definitely trying to check out new stuff. Shame that a lot of this is associated with HT... Last time I was in one was when they were 'goth' stores back when I was in high school. Gatsby's American Dream - S/T Saves The Day - Through Being Cool That Rain Over Battle record posted earlier actually. Its nice to see all the Mineral love 
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Tom Pridgen posted:I know that describes me. I have some metalcore in my collection but I certainly only return to Converge. When I have a desire to listen to metal I usually listen to some classic black or death. If I'm looking for more of a punk influence I usually end up putting on some thrashcore or grind records like rear endück or some of the stuff on Earache, but that playlist always includes Converge. Pretty much, every so often I kind of want to listen to metalcore and it's pretty much just Converge and Botch.
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casual poster posted:I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? I adhere to the 'get your high production values and technical skill (i.e. metal bullshit) out of my punk' school of thought, but post-1989 bands that are usually labeled hardcore and that I still find acceptable: Battery, Carry On, Raised Fist, Betrayed, Better Than A Thousand and Death Threat.
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casual poster posted:I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? I'm not super well versed in hardcore, but I feel like 90-00 was very much characterized by the rise of post-hardcore and screamo. Screamo is probably not what you're looking for (and I honestly would not be the person to ask regarding it). With post-hardcore, it might be worth it to check out bands like Refused and Born Against, maybe even Fugazi. You also might enjoy some melodic hardcore like Kid Dynamite and Lifetime, but given that you mentioned Converge, probably not. Also, by Kylsea do you mena Kylesa? If you do, Kylesa are very much a metal band, and they don't really have anything in common with hardcore. They are awesome though. e: These are pretty well known bands, but I'm just going in assuming you have zero knowledge. If you do, just disregard this I guess. e2: the poster above me knows hardcore better than I do. I still think it's worth checking out some of these other bands though. LtTennisBall fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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casual poster posted:I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? How do you you feel about Straight Edge, Krishna-Consciousness, and pretty much everything in this(Which says everything about that genre much better than I could) Quantumfate fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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casual poster posted:I made a stupid post in here about a month ago, referring to metalcore as hardcore. Anyways, can someone point me in the direction of hardcore from the 90-00? Would Converge and Kylsea be part of that? Ah, 90's hardcore. For me, that sound is a lot of the chugga-style guitars from bands like Earth Crisis, 25 Ta Life, or really just most of what Victory put out in that day. Some may say EC was metalcore, but I feel that with their sxe/vegan power message and all that they were kinda in the hardcore family. Of course you have youth crew stuff and more traditional sounding hardcore like Judge (borderline late 80's-early 90's) or Ten Yard Fight, Strife, Madball.. Look to what was coming out of the NYC scene because for me, those bands define the sound of that time. I think a band like Indecision (my favorite) could straddle the line between hardcore and the emerging metalcore sound of bands like Converge. Lots of bands were doing that, or even mixing in more sounds like Candiria.
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Phlegmish posted:I adhere to the 'get your high production values and technical skill (i.e. metal bullshit) out of my punk' school of thought, but post-1989 bands that are usually labeled hardcore and that I still find acceptable: Battery, Carry On, Raised Fist, Betrayed, Better Than A Thousand and Death Threat. Battery rules. That said I still listen to a lot of youth crew revival stuff or whatever you want to call it and I'm a little bummed that every band I listen to broke up like 3+ years ago.
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rivals posted:Battery rules. That said I still listen to a lot of youth crew revival stuff or whatever you want to call it and I'm a little bummed that every band I listen to broke up like 3+ years ago. Yeah, the term 'hardcore' is a bit ambiguous today, so I usually refrain from using it. I love punk in general, so I obviously love eighties American hardcore, but nowadays 'hardcore' mostly seems to apply to streamlined, take-themselves-too-seriously quasi-metalcore bands. Dommage. Here in Europe, it gets more confusing still, since many people will think you're referring to a form of techno when you talk about hardcore. Still, I suppose I see some continuity between the first straight edge bands and today's hardcore. For example, instead of the self-righteous outrage of political punk or the proletarian catchiness of Oi!, you get truckloads of angsty self-referentiality to the point where it gets incredibly banal. The local hardcore scene in [random American city] used to be amazing until [trend or type of people] ruined everything? Intriguing! Please tell us more. I really am putting way too much thought into this. It's totally not-punk to be concerned with these conceptual issues.
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Phlegmish posted:Yeah, the term 'hardcore' is a bit ambiguous today, so I usually refrain from using it. I love punk in general, so I obviously love eighties American hardcore, but nowadays 'hardcore' mostly seems to apply to streamlined, take-themselves-too-seriously quasi-metalcore bands. Dommage. Here in Europe, it gets more confusing still, since many people will think you're referring to a form of techno when you talk about hardcore. Yeah as I've gotten more into punk over the past couple of years I've started to see this. I tend to categorize stuff into genres (it's stupid, but makes sense in my head) but with punk I'm afraid to call anything a certain genre because of the inevitable "NO [insert band here] isn't real [insert genre here]!" It's not a huge problem, but drat some people will get angry about little things.
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I'm putting out a tape of hardcore jams in December. I think of it as dark, technical hardcore for fans of His Hero Is Gone & Cursed, though if you guys have better references, let me know. I also did the art and took a crack at mastering. There's even a Black Flag cover if you're into the whole cred thing. Yautja - 2011  http://soundcloud.com/tapes-of-a-neon-god/yautja-2011 Email me (tapesofaneongod@gmail.com) and I'll shoot you the mp3s gratis for being good dudes. If you're feeling generous, check out the site: https://www.tapesofaneongod.com Sorry IE users, my middlin' CSS coding hates you.
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Quantumfate posted:How do you you feel about Straight Edge, Krishna-Consciousness, and pretty much everything in this(Which says everything about that genre much better than I could) What exactly is hardcore than? The 2 listed (7 seconds and Shelter) sound completely different than what I thought. 7 seconds sounds like a regular punk song and Shelter sounds like 80's new age. Bands that Phlegmish mentioned (Battery, Carry On, Raised Fist, Betrayed, Better Than A Thousand and Death Threat) are more along what "I" thought hardcore "sounded" like. More grungy (dirty) sounding with more of a snarl vocals. Keep in mind, what I thought "hardcore" actually sounded like is most likely to change within the next few days when I go through your recommendations. Thanks for the help ya'll.
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casual poster posted:What exactly is hardcore than? The 2 listed (7 seconds and Shelter) sound completely different than what I thought. 7 seconds sounds like a regular punk song and Shelter sounds like 80's new age. Bands that Phlegmish mentioned (Battery, Carry On, Raised Fist, Betrayed, Better Than A Thousand and Death Threat) are more along what "I" thought hardcore "sounded" like. More grungy (dirty) sounding with more of a snarl vocals. Keep in mind, what I thought "hardcore" actually sounded like is most likely to change within the next few days when I go through your recommendations. I would define hardcore more by its historical origins, its continuity as a 'scene' and perhaps topics/attitude rather than by any definitive musical characteristics. In that sense, hardcore can apply to bands like 7 Seconds or Dag Nasty as well as to contemporary borderline metalcore bands. From what you've said in this thread, I'd say you're more interested in the latter type, and that's not my area of expertise.
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All the hardline edgers here in Reno just poo poo themselves at 7 seconds not being called hardcore. It is glorious, and I'm going to tell Tom Mowat next time I see him, and we will laugh at the imagined hardliner frothing. As far as hardcore, yeah, you have a lot of different things. Screamo and post-hardcore is hardcore style music I can hold my own about. Crust even more so. Straight edge I'm a little solid on because holy poo poo, do I live in the right city for straight edge. So I wanted to know if that kind of hardcore was something you were interested in. It's funny you mention Battery because of this also Omkara is the poo poo. So thinking of otherstuff here's a bunch of different hardcore genres: what do you think of these? Powerviolence D-Beat Crust Metalcore Grindcore Crossover Crackrock Steady Hardcore Hardcore Punk Screamo/Metalcore Sort of Metalcore? Gravity Man, I wish I could be of more help. =/ Edit: cf posted:I'm putting out a tape of hardcore jams in December. I think of it as dark, technical hardcore for fans of His Hero Is Gone & Cursed, though if you guys have better references, let me know. I also did the art and took a crack at mastering. There's even a Black Flag cover if you're into the whole cred thing. Just listen to this guy actually, he's got this stuff. Speaking of which, CF I have some friends involved in the local hardcore scene who would absolutely love this. If I shoot you an email, do you think I could get the .mp3s to burn them a copy and show them? Quantumfate fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Just send him an email and he'll hook you up I promise.
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Does anyone have any mid/early 90's post recommendations? Like Hoover, Drive Like Jehu etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0SjnAvu7Ng
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