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Broken Loose posted:I'm trying it on Vergil. My training team is Vergil/Raccoon/Sentinel so I have one opponent of each size, but I'm starting to worry that our little anime friend is on the runt side. I'd switch him to Wesker but I know how drat popular Vergil is, so the practice is useful. Seems it only works midscreen on smaller characters. I can occasionally get it to work on iron fist, but I've no clue what the hell I'm doing to get it to work. If you can get the enemy to end up BEHIND nova at the end of the nova strike then it'll work, otherwise it looks like nope. It should work at 4/5ths - 3/4ths of a zoomed screen away from the corner tho. Against larger characters (tested this on sentinel, prolly necessary on nemesis as well) you should do this instead (jH) M/2M H/2H S jH j214L jL jH H S jH j214L jH j236L or M j623pp mash. Does nearly the same damage, is far easier to get the relaunch. Corner only.
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Fenn the Fool! posted:I am aware of Dr. D's S j.M j.fH DFairdash j.M cr.MHS loop, but that poo poo is hard. I have his corner combos down no problem and I need to learn that midscreen one eventually, but in the interim are there any midscreen combos that are easier than the above loop but more damaging than c.LMHSj.MMfHhyper? e: Did they improve the arcade mode AI? I'm pretty sure the CPU Doom did something really close to the Buktooth on me the other night. The Rokstar fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 18, 2011 |
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Nov 18, 2011 21:45
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Metrohunter posted:I just got my first Ultimate disconnect when I killed a Sentinel assist with Gimlet How exactly does Gimlet strike? I thought it was like it just hits the opponent wherever he is on the screen. There's more to it? Hits the assist?
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Revitalized posted:How exactly does Gimlet strike? I thought it was like it just hits the opponent wherever he is on the screen. There's more to it? Hits the assist? I've definitely seen it hit an assist if it's next to the point character, so I think it's just because of being there. I don't think it would hit an assist if the point character superjumped away from it, or something.
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Nov 18, 2011 21:56
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In one of the Running Sets videos they say it's omni-directional and can hit multiple places on the screen at once, but I'm not sure if that's actually the case (as in, if it will hit an assist that is nowhere near the point character).
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Nov 18, 2011 21:59
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infinite99 posted:Runnin' Sets with Combofiend and Marn:
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Nov 18, 2011 22:01
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So how viable IS Sentinel these days? I know his health got nerfed a few times but in terms of power and x-factored Sentinel Force, isn't he still a beast? I don't see him that often on streams these days.
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MinibarMatchman posted:So how viable IS Sentinel these days? I know his health got nerfed a few times but in terms of power and x-factored Sentinel Force, isn't he still a beast? I don't see him that often on streams these days. He has his uses. Drones are still a good assist. He can still pile on the damage. I'm still free to armor.
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MinibarMatchman posted:So how viable IS Sentinel these days? I know his health got nerfed a few times but in terms of power and x-factored Sentinel Force, isn't he still a beast? I don't see him that often on streams these days. He still has one of the best assists and is pretty good on point, he's fine.
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Sentinel is squishy and easy to cross up. But he deals a huge amount of damage and is braindead easy to use well enough. Nemesis is Sentinel with more damage, better range, and the highest health in the game. Sentinel is still better though, because Nemesis can't wavedash. 
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Cuchulain posted:Sentinel is squishy and easy to cross up. But he deals a huge amount of damage and is braindead easy to use well enough. Nemesis is Sentinel with more damage, better range, and the highest health in the game. Sentinel is still better though, because Nemesis can't wavedash. Thor still has better health I thought. And I thought Nemesis can wavedash.
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Revitalized posted:Thor still has better health I thought. Yeah Thor has the most, Nemesis actually only sits at 1.1m I think. A long time ago he was supposed to have 1.3m but they changed that pretty early on.
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Countblanc posted:Yeah Thor has the most, Nemesis actually only sits at 1.1m I think. A long time ago he was supposed to have 1.3m but they changed that pretty early on. Oh good, I thought he was at 1.3. Thor really needs to be the Health king, since he doesn't have much else going for him. Welp, guess I got brain problems, everything I know about Nemesis is wrong. v v
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Revitalized posted:Thor still has better health I thought. He can according to ASSIST ME!
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Revitalized posted:Thor still has better health I thought. Nemesis can wavedash and it looks like an anime ninja run. 
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Countblanc posted:Yeah Thor has the most, Nemesis actually only sits at 1.1m I think. A long time ago he was supposed to have 1.3m but they changed that pretty early on. It's 1.15 million I think. If I remember right for HP it's Thor: 1.25 Hulk/Haggar/Tron: 1.2 Nemesis/She Hulk: 1.15 Also isn't Ryu up there in Health? Like above 1 million?
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fadam posted:Does anyone know of any assists that work really well with Ghost Rider? Nova's Centurian Rush assist seems amazing. Hits overhead and does a ground bounce against airborn targets. It gives Ghost Rider unblockables and lets you relaunch after one of your chain slams for more chain. It doesn't hit full screen, but it's pretty drat useful at the ranges it'll work. I use this combo as my bnb with nova assist: HH/2H 623L HH 214L call nova assist 236L HH 214L (236L 236PP mash) or M (623PP S + DHC) or H (623PP S + DHC) Does about 685K if I end it with hell fire into chain super.
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I've just realized something. I wanna see a Heroes and Heralds tournament. With Combofiend being forced to use a one-man team of Spencer.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Also isn't Ryu up there in Health? Like above 1 million? Nope, just 1 mil, same with Wright, Wesker, Dormammu, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, and Super Skrull.
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HJE-Cobra posted:I rather like some of the new costumes in the costume packs, I'm looking forward to getting some of those. At last Spencer will look like he should have always looked! Yeah I guess that's cool but let's not forget the real source of the MODOK costume Unfortunately it's probably the closest we'll get to having either The Captain or Aaron Stack in UMVC3.
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PalmTreeFun posted:Jill's level 3 is functionally identical, but limited to like 30-something dashes or so. There is no limit on dashes.
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UberChair posted:Yeah I guess that's cool but let's not forget the real source of the MODOK costume Whoa, is that loving Stilt Man from Daredevil on the right? I mean left
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UberChair posted:Yeah I guess that's cool but let's not forget the real source of the MODOK costume I've seen that image about five times now and this is the first time I noticed that the Elvis MODOKs were shooting hamburgers out of their chairs. They better reskin Balloon Bomb or something
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JesusLovesRonwell posted:Whoa, is that loving Stilt Man from Daredevil on the right? I mean left Nah, that's Machine Man.
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Tommy 2.0 posted:So what is going on with the new Brady Games guide? Has anyone gotten it yet, and how/where? My amazon/bnb seem to be wanting to take forever with it. I got mine from Amazon.ca today in spite of getting an email regarding its delay on Tuesday. I got lucky, I guess.
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NecroMonster posted:Seems it only works midscreen on smaller characters. I can occasionally get it to work on iron fist, but I've no clue what the hell I'm doing to get it to work. If you can get the enemy to end up BEHIND nova at the end of the nova strike then it'll work, otherwise it looks like nope. L connects, but the H afterward doesn't. I'm convinced that either you or I am drunk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPL6kB1JVA
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Broken Loose posted:L connects, but the H afterward doesn't. I'm convinced that either you or I am drunk. Yeah, the L rocket punch combos won't work midscreen unless it's a smaller character. You use the H after the rocket punch there. The biggest i've gotten it to work on is iron fist, and even then it's a little iffy. You can tell when it'll work because nova ends up BEHIND the character you rocket punched before you do the jH to catch them. It looks weird as hell, but it works. The jL then jH followups are for sent and nemesis in the corner, makes getting the relaunch on them a lot easier.
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UberChair posted:Yeah I guess that's cool but let's not forget the real source of the MODOK costume First time seeing this, my eyes were immediately drawn to the pair of fat little Iron Babies. Alt costume of Iron Man that is just three of those little guys in a trenchcoat. Their win quote will be them trying to buy a ticket to an R-rated movie.
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NecroMonster posted:Yeah, the L rocket punch combos won't work midscreen unless it's a smaller character. You use the H after the rocket punch there. The biggest i've gotten it to work on is iron fist, and even then it's a little iffy. You can tell when it'll work because nova ends up BEHIND the character you rocket punched before you do the jH to catch them. It looks weird as hell, but it works. Then I'm back at square 1. What am I doing wrong that H doesn't connect in the first attempt in that video? I've tried doing it later, I've tried doing it earlier (even leaving the turbo on so it hits on the first possible frame). I've seen him go behind like you've described, but so far it seems like it's luck as to whether or not he will.
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Aerial exchange madness in part 2 @ about 12:55. At the end of the match they replay it in slowmo. http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive/b/300215444 Broken Loose try Nova's slide (d + M), then fly cancel it and call a low hitting assist simultaneously, dash down forward, j.L j.H j.S. You need the assist to hit or the j.S won't connect so try to hit with the j.L earlier than the assist or at exactly the same time. Also, if you hit j.L j.L j.H j.S the j.S won't come out. I have no idea why this is.
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Broken Loose posted:Then I'm back at square 1. What am I doing wrong that H doesn't connect in the first attempt in that video? I've tried doing it later, I've tried doing it earlier (even leaving the turbo on so it hits on the first possible frame). I've seen him go behind like you've described, but so far it seems like it's luck as to whether or not he will. It don't work mid screen unless you do it on smaller characters. Virgil is too big. I'd record it being done on someone it'll work on, but I don't have any means to do that. Honestly I'd just stick to using it as a corner combo.
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NecroMonster posted:It don't work mid screen unless you do it on smaller characters. Virgil is too big. Oh-- drat it, I misread your initial post. Duh. edit: Let's make this a better post. Necro, take this proof of concept and do something with it. You'll want to get full super jump height on the first launcher and hit H just before hitting the ground after the airdash. I haven't tried past the second Nova Strike so the last third of that is just theory. Broken Loose fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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Broken Loose posted:Oh-- drat it, I misread your initial post. Duh. I'll give it a try later. I'd like something with some drat air dashes in. I had to scrape to find something that uses special attacks beside a pulse at the end.
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NecroMonster posted:I'll give it a try later. I was practicing the lots of H combo a bunch last night and I noticed that Nova is still in flight after Nova Strike provided you do the Nova Strike early enough that there's some flight time left over. I also noticed that if you can cancel out of flight into Nova Strike without doing a second qcb motion. So you can do: qcb + S then while still holding back hit L really fast after the S to cancel into Nova Strike. After the strike you should still be in flight mode which I'd imagine would open up some combo possibilities.
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If you hit S instead of airdashing in that combo I just posted, it looks incredibly sweet but does more hits and less damage than addf H.  The only practical use for it is if you're trying to drag somebody from one corner to another and they're out of airdash range after the wallbounce. It also completely kills the hitstun deterioration.
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Countblanc posted:In one of the Running Sets videos they say [Gimlet] is omni-directional and can hit multiple places on the screen at once, but I'm not sure if that's actually the case (as in, if it will hit an assist that is nowhere near the point character). It definitely only hits the assist if they are in the line of fire. I've seen it hit the point character and whiff an assist in another location several times already.
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Countblanc posted:In one of the Running Sets videos they say it's omni-directional and can hit multiple places on the screen at once, but I'm not sure if that's actually the case (as in, if it will hit an assist that is nowhere near the point character). It fires an arrow directly at the opponent that goes through them. So, if the assist is in a line intersecting hawkeye and the field character, then it hits the assist. As an aside, the arrow is very fast, but the arrow DOES have travel time (or something similar), so it is possible (though difficult) to miss with it.
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Oh Deadpool Deadpool posted:(vs. Spider-Man) "Hey, did you know that Wesker guy stole your Maximum Spider move? You were doing that back in Marvel Super Heroes! So...Gonna go kick his rear end? Can I watch?"
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AXE COP posted:Oh Deadpool Gonna rough you up like a Broadway musical! \/\/\/ Phoenix is a bird lady! Thread confused! Dodgeball fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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New Phoenix technology courtesy of Spooky.
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