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Nov 18, 2011 20:18
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40 OZ posted:So? Maybe he or she likes fighting games and doesn't like TF2 or dota? I'm not sure why you're assuming that competition is the single reason anyone would want to play a fighting game. Competition isn't the sole defining trait of fighting games. I'm utter poo poo at these games, but I like playing them even with pretty much no prospects for ever playing competitively or even at a decent level. Maybe I'm just not the Right Kind of fighting game player, I don't know.
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Nov 18, 2011 20:25
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40 OZ fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Nov 18, 2011 |
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Nov 18, 2011 20:50
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chumbler posted:I like playing them even with pretty much no prospects for ever playing competitively or even at a decent level. Are you trying to get better? It doesn't matter at all what 'level' you are on. Do you play against your roommates? Have some friends on IRC you play? Your little sister? If you compete against absolutely anyone, you are playing competitively. quote:I'm utter poo poo at these games Compared to who? JUSTIN WONG? quote:Competition isn't the sole defining trait of fighting games. It was before they made console ports
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Nov 18, 2011 20:54
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40 OZ posted:Are you trying to get better? It doesn't matter at all what 'level' you are on. I live alone and only have online as an avenue through which to play. Also I was using the generally accepted definition of "competitively" as "in a setting with real stakes, i.e. a tournament" rather than the pretty-much-covers-everything definition of "not cooperatively." 40 OZ posted:Compared to who? JUSTIN WONG? I am terrible in the sense that I am not capable of performing at anything above the most basic level the game requires, and in that I lose the vast majority of matches. I wish I were only poo poo at the game compared to Justin Wong. That is however irrelevant to what I was trying to say, that people enjoy playing and watching fighting games despite not being even of small tournament levels of skill or having any ambition for whatever reason to be at that level. 40 OZ posted:It was before they made console ports I would say that a fighting game is more defined by its mechanics and general gameplay than by competition. chumbler fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 18, 2011 |
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Nov 18, 2011 21:14
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chumbler posted:I live alone and only have online as an avenue through which to play. Also I was using the generally accepted definition of "competitively" as "in a setting with real stakes, i.e. a tournament" rather than the pretty-much-covers-everything definition of "not cooperatively." If you're playing with the intention of getting better, you're playing competetively.
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Nov 18, 2011 21:34
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:If you're playing with the intention of getting better, you're playing competetively.  v
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Nov 18, 2011 21:42
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This is all a matter of semantics, because the article clearly meant "competitive" in the "contribute to the scene, be it as a pot monster or a big name." Certainly not as someone who plays GGXX against his friend twice a week even if both of them are trying to get better to beat the other guy.
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Nov 18, 2011 21:52
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Broken Loose posted:I was born with astigmatism. I'm legally blind in my left eye. Shiki Dan is completely right, it doesn't make fighters any harder. if you were born with astigmatism how could you possibly know if it makes games harder or not if you have no benchmark to base that comparison on.
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Nov 18, 2011 23:31
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Zand posted:if you were born with astigmatism how could you possibly know if it makes games harder or not if you have no benchmark to base that comparison on. Based off the presumption that depth perception is not required for a 2D screen. Am I wrong?
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Nov 18, 2011 23:44
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I have a question for SF4 players: Why would you do a normal throw when playing as a character who has a command throw that is basically an improved, inescapable version of a normal throw? I see top players (Ricosuave and others) using normal grabs all the time when playing as Abel. Why do that when you could use the tornado throw instead and do more damage + inescapable? Is it just because a normal throw has slightly less recovery time if you whiff? Here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlICY-h4D8 around 1:10, 3:07, and 5:35 you'll see him use a normal throw instead of Tornado throw. Why's he doing that?
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Nov 19, 2011 00:23
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Abel's command throws have longer recovery and start-up than his normal throw, same deal with Honda, their command throws are generally best when you're coming out of frame advantage or when they're scared and defensive. They also might have different post-knockdown set-ups that are more advantageous, or provide a novel mix-up.
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Nov 19, 2011 00:29
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Additionally, some characters might have safejump setups or mixups off normal throws that they can't get from their command throw. (not that I could give you any examples)
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Nov 19, 2011 00:30
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Normal throw for Abel in particular comes out two frames faster, is much much much safer on whiff and the input not needing a motion makes it easier to do in general. E: beaten like Abel in AE
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Nov 19, 2011 00:31
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I've started playing Tekken 6 with a buddy of mine, and I'm having a hard time adjusting to it. I'm not used to juggling at all, and coming from Virtua Fighter makes me feel like it's impossible to stand up in Tekken without getting hit. So far I've been using Dragunov and Lili, but I'd like to pick up another character to play around with. I generally like throws and counters (I use Aoi in VF). My friend mostly plays as Asuka and Leo, and we generally stick to separate characters so those two are off limits. Any suggestions on who to look into? King? Armor King? Someone else?
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Nov 19, 2011 01:13
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King is definitely a solid choice. Good amount of mixup between his different throws, especially once you get iSW and Giant Swing down. A lot of them also leave him in good position for wake up games. For people who aren't confident in their throw breaking and want to duck your attempts, you can open them up with u/f+4 combos or play it safe with f+3 pokes. A lot of Tekken is the spacing and wake up game. People who don't learn those fundamentals first tend to get eaten up alive quickly and then lose interest.
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Nov 19, 2011 01:59
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may contain peanuts posted:How did you get a stick for free? Store had to get rid of a TE MK for 360, just gave me the stick straight up.
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Nov 19, 2011 05:57
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Armor-Piercing posted:I've started playing Tekken 6 with a buddy of mine, and I'm having a hard time adjusting to it. I'm not used to juggling at all, and coming from Virtua Fighter makes me feel like it's impossible to stand up in Tekken without getting hit. King is a good suggestion, although he is deceptively complex and has one of the longest movelists in the game. You can try Craig (Marduk) for sort of an easier-to-learn version, where grabs/counters/hard-hitting strings are emphasized over King's more complicated poking and oki game. Paul also may not look like a grappler, but actually has a bunch of command throws and a great, straightforward counter. He's also a really good character to learn the game with.
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Nov 19, 2011 06:37
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Pierson posted:Crossposting this from the Megaten thread but two more dudes revealed for the Persona 4 fighter and basically the best two possible choices they could have made. I really hope this doesn't suck. They really made Junpei look really funny  Seriously though. I'm not bitching, they could throw the entire cast of 3 and 4 together and I wouldn't bitch in the slightest.
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Nov 19, 2011 06:42
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Zexerous posted:Seriously though. I'm not bitching, they could throw the entire cast of 3 and 4 together and I wouldn't bitch in the slightest. I would only complain if they did all that work and they didn't make Hitler from P2 a boss. KOFXIII seems to have broken street date a bit early from the way people are talking on other forums too I'm still hoping mine arrives on the 22nd from amazon.
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Nov 19, 2011 08:23
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Mio Bison posted:Normal throw for Abel in particular comes out two frames faster, is much much much safer on whiff and the input not needing a motion makes it easier to do in general. This but a more technical answer is that after a blocked step kick, it's his only option other than EX Tornado Throw which will beat a three frame normal. EX Tornado will get you hosed up if they guess it's coming and jump or backdash, regular throw not so much. Getting people into the habit of expecting and teching or avoiding a throw pre-emptively is also part of the general SF4 metagame.
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Nov 19, 2011 09:30
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This is a stupid question but it's been bugging me for days. The announcers in SFIV and SSFIV say something during the loading screens before some of the fights that I can't understand. It's just three or four words, the first one being "fight".
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Nov 19, 2011 18:46
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Fight For The Future
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Nov 19, 2011 19:06
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No, it's something else.
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Nov 19, 2011 19:10
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In case you Skullgirls fans missed it, here's the first footage of Painwheel from Gamespot. It's the first segment in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAWQFAS3lc0 Also, the latest Friday Night Fights with Filia wrecking poo poo. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/friday-night-skullgirls/724201
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Nov 19, 2011 19:24
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:KOFXIII seems to have broken street date a bit early from the way people are talking on other forums too I'm still hoping mine arrives on the 22nd from amazon. The cool thing is, if you got in on the release day shipping and it gets in late they give you  . It's happened on like the last 3 games I've gotten from them because OnTrac sucks at finding my house.
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Nov 19, 2011 19:24
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Spermando posted:This is a stupid question but it's been bugging me for days. The announcers in SFIV and SSFIV say something during the loading screens before some of the fights that I can't understand. It's just three or four words, the first one being "fight". The fight card is filled in. Which of these warriors will prove their strength to the world?
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Nov 19, 2011 19:34
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No, it's something like "Fight -- out joust." Here it is. Skip to 5:48. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPB97YNNen4 Spermando fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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Nov 19, 2011 19:39
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"Fight locale chosen".
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Nov 19, 2011 19:48
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Thanks!
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Nov 19, 2011 19:49
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So is anyone actually getting KOF13 today 
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Nov 22, 2011 12:12
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I've got it comin' over from gamefly, but I gotta be honest here. My hands are full just trying to gain some sort of competency in Ultimate Marvel. As if splitting my mind/time between two fighting games wasn't enough, I have both Skyrim and Assassin's Creed begging for my attentions. Always had a soft spot for KoF so I at least want to have the game on hand, but early reviews are saying the internet play isn't anything worth writing home about. It's my only option for playing the game outside training mode. Dealing with Ultimate's less-than-ideal latency already produces enormous amounts of salt that tackling another would likely send me into convulsions. Despite that, I want to rock a Terry/K`/Kim team. Training mode will only get me so far, so will have to take on that burden at some point.
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Nov 22, 2011 12:39
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dj_de posted:So is anyone actually getting KOF13 today Gamestop auto-dialed me last night about my copy being here. Just gotta wait for them to open now.
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Nov 22, 2011 14:08
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I've heard UMVC is a pretty cheap and rage inducing game. Having played it myself just recently, I can attest to that. Guess I'll just move onto KOF13.
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Nov 22, 2011 14:20
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dj_de posted:So is anyone actually getting KOF13 today
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Nov 22, 2011 15:35
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dj_de posted:So is anyone actually getting KOF13 today I'll be picking up a copy. I've only played a small amount of KoF '99 otherwise so wish me luck, guys!
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Nov 22, 2011 16:39
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Is KoF gonna be region free? I've heard nothing about an Australian release so I might consider an import. edit: 360 version, not PS3
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Nov 22, 2011 20:39
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Arturo Sanchez is streaming KOF here: http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
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Nov 22, 2011 22:00
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The VF5FS season 4 was streamed a few days ago. Looks like they're really going all out with the customization system in this one, like Tekken 6 levels of ridiculous.
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Nov 23, 2011 18:24
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Groghammer posted:I'll be picking up a copy. I've only played a small amount of KoF '99 otherwise so wish me luck, guys! Ordered mine from Inglewood Amazon which is like 10 minutes away. What's funny is that I've only played KOF a little bit growing up but it's looking amazing now.
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Nov 23, 2011 18:29
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