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SuperSlacker posted:Marn did pretty well but it didn't help that he was experimenting combos during the match. haha Especially his Vergil. He kept trying stinger->relaunch out of the corner and he never used the ground bounce launcher which is an easy way to tack on damage to short combos. Despite all that, he still managed to not get swept!
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I am absolutely new to this game, and still trying to learn how to do some of these moves, but one thing is mystifying me- when the input commands are <-CHARGE-> H, what exactly should I be doing with the controller? Holding down left and right and charging up with H?
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Gravy Train Robber posted:I am absolutely new to this game, and still trying to learn how to do some of these moves, but one thing is mystifying me- when the input commands are <-CHARGE-> H, what exactly should I be doing with the controller? Holding down left and right and charging up with H? Hold the stick to the left for about a second (this is what it means by charge), then press right+H. You can also charge with down+back which is useful because then you don't walk backwards. You can charge during any move or action as well.
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Nov 19, 2011 01:56
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Mind you, unless you're using a stick, Charge moves are the most akward thing in the game to use. Don't plan on playing Hulk or Shuma if you have trouble with them.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm just using a PS3 controller, and I can't even get the first Shuma mission done.  I think I'll just continue moving down the list trying characters out and skip over Hulk and any others I see with charge moves.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:12
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Shuma's Down-Up charge is actually easier then Hulk's, just hold down while falling, then hit up as soon as you hit the ground.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:15
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Yo Vergil players tell me how to play him.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:16
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Chocolate America posted:Yo Vergil players tell me how to play him. Swing sword (sometimes throw sword), teleport around, get motivated, do hella rad combos, kill everyone, die when you get hit. Have a good projectile/beam assist and use it to cover your stinger so you can stinger all over the place and stay safe while your opponent stays free and then cancel into either teleport or rapid slash or whatever. If you wanna keep away throw your sword and do a bunch of judgement cuts and stuff while calling your rad projectile/beam assist until people get mad as hell and start going in on you (i.e right away). When you're motivated you air dash all the time until you air dash into rocket raccoons log trap (BONK) and then air dash more until you hit them with your huge anime sword. Summon spiral swords and teleport behind or in front of people and do a rad combo. Sorry that's about the extent of my day 1 Vergil tech!! A rad combo to start with is 5B, 5C, 6C, rising sun, teleport down, super jump, j.B, j.C, j.S, 5C, 6C, medium teleport, spiral swords, lunar phase x2, 3C, air super. Alternatively 5B, 5C, 6C, get motivated, <see above> except you do a bunch of rapid slash instead of lunar phase and look swag as hell and make people really mad and then dtop the combo cause you don't know what the hell is going on. Cinroth fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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Nov 19, 2011 02:35
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I don't think I'm ever going to get sick of Phoenix Wright throwing dogs at people. Makes me laugh every time. That and him prosecuting Ameratsu.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:43
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Cinroth posted:Swing sword (sometimes throw sword), teleport around, get motivated, do hella rad combos, kill everyone, die when you get hit. This basically. Virgin has low health, decent range, and good speed. He's like a dante with less health, less moves, more damage, and more movement options.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:44
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Cinroth posted:Sorry that's about the extent of my day 1 Vergil tech!! 
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Dosvidanya posted:It's like day+3 man, stop being from Europe Oh yeah well how about you stop sexualizing squirrel tits MORAN!  
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Nov 19, 2011 02:47
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Can C. Viper's EX Thunder Knuckle be cancelled into a L Seismo? I'm having difficulties with the input, I keep pulling off an EX Seismo instead of an L one.
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Nov 19, 2011 02:49
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Millions posted:Can C. Viper's EX Thunder Knuckle be cancelled into a L Seismo? I'm having difficulties with the input, I keep pulling off an EX Seismo instead of an L one. I think her ex moves are only super cancelable or something. EX thunder is supposed to crumble though so do it after? guide says only cancelable to EX or hyper.
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Hey Broken Loose, Deadpool has a winquote vs Spider-Man you make like
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Chocolate America posted:Yo Vergil players tell me how to play him. Everything Vergil does is somewhat unsafe on block, majorly unsafe on whiff. Make sure you have a decent assist to cover you as you get in or play conservatively. If you have meter, use it to go into Devil Trigger and rush your opponent down using your very good air dash. If you need to make a move safe NOW, cancel into spiral swords (it comes out instantly and is safe) then go for a mix-up. Always be chargin' your sword ability since it can also make moves safe on block. Off of your OTG you can teleport down and super jump up to air grab them if they aren't being careful. Another basic combo to do with Vergil in addition to the one Cinroth posted is: (Light charge) c.m c.h f.h m.teleport wait slightly, s.h launcher s.h sword throw, wait slightly, s.h light judgment cut launcher, j.h j.dh df.h into hyper. Deals about 600k damage, builds a decent amount of meter, can be done off of forward air throws. There's also a loop Virgil can do to burn a bunch of meter and deal decent damage but is a bit tricky to pull off: (Light charge) Spiral Swords (opponent must be off the ground), j.dh into sword throw, s, s.h light judgment into Spiral Swords, repeat.
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Nov 19, 2011 03:16
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Phoenix Wright chat time! Please evaluate: Been having a little success running Wright/Haggar/Dormammu. If you land a Dark Hole, it gives you time to grab two pieces of evidence on block or on hit. At round start, I walk forward mashing Haggar assist and throw. Whether they get thrown or get hit by Haggar it gives you time to grab a piece of evidence. Once I have three pieces of evidence, I switch to courtroom mode and start spamming projectiles. If they have a teleport, I'm just sitting back and waiting for them to teleport into Haggar assist for a free Objection, otherwise it's just a matter of zoning them until I can surprise with a j.S into Objection combo. Dark Hole assist tacked on to a ground combo gives you enough time to Object safely. When Turnabout is on, its pure rushdown for 15 seconds. Between Paperwork and projectile spam, its easy to force them into the corner, where you can try and open them up with standing/crouching/jumping H and throws. With five seconds left on the timer, I throw out a Paperwork H and raw tag to Dormammu. I don't really like Phoenix as the anchor, though; when Haggar comes out I'm mainly looking for a chance to DHC into Ace Attorney. His BNB combo can be extended with Break the Witness! after his OTG crouching H; after the wallbounce of Break the Witness, you can use Body Press hyper and DHC into Ace Attorney for a 100% combo (750k from Haggar BNB, 600k from Ace Attorney, 1.35k damage) for four bars. The one thing I'm really looking for is a way to land a Haggar combo off of Break the Witness's wallbounce from midscreen. I never played Haggar in vanilla and so I don't know if there's any method to get over in time, since his wavedash is non-existent.
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Cat Machine posted:Hey Broken Loose, Deadpool has a winquote vs Spider-Man you make like http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3448857&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=28#post397754599 Foolishness, Cat Machine. Foolishness.
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Please present me with all of your Firebrand strategies and combos so that I do not have to do any work. Aside from magic series -> air magic series -> bon voyage -> medium heavy launcher -> air magic series -> hyper or crossover combo  You can also start this in midair if you connect a dive kick! Once they bounce back up into your melee range if you time it right you can just do air normals into bon voyage and continue as normal. Easy relaunch BnB, but I'm lost for what I can do to end the combo aside from fire breath or a crossover!
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FZeroRacer posted:Everything Vergil does is somewhat unsafe on block, majorly unsafe on whiff. Make sure you have a decent assist to cover you as you get in or play conservatively. If you have meter, use it to go into Devil Trigger and rush your opponent down using your very good air dash. If you need to make a move safe NOW, cancel into spiral swords (it comes out instantly and is safe) then go for a mix-up. Always be chargin' your sword ability since it can also make moves safe on block. Off of your OTG you can teleport down and super jump up to air grab them if they aren't being careful. Thanks for the tips both of you. I appreciate it. I had no idea you could super jump after the OTG upslash move. That's really helpful. However I'm an idiot and have more questions. What do you mean by "throw sword"? I don't see that in his command list. Is that the charge move? I might end up replacing Vergil with Dr. Strange because I really do need a beam assist to help Wesker's gun and teleports. I also have no other beam assist to help Vergil get in so there's that too. Plus I screwed around with Strange a little last night and I liked what I saw. I also tried out the double beam assist and HOLY poo poo is that thing amazing.
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Chocolate America posted:Thanks for the tips both of you. I appreciate it. I had no idea you could super jump after the OTG upslash move. That's really helpful. Hold a button, then release it when his hilt sparkles. Sorta like Zero. It hits like Trish's boomerang. Really useful.
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FauxCyclops posted:Please present me with all of your Firebrand strategies and combos so that I do not have to do any work. some ground string -> take u 4 a ride -> some variant of h,s depending on spacing -> j.mmh -> divekick, l elevator -> hs, j.mmhs -> super Orange Crush Rush posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3448857&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=28#post397754599
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Tetrakarn posted:Hold a button, then release it when his hilt sparkles. Sorta like Zero. It hits like Trish's boomerang. Really useful. Yeah that definitely was not in the command list. I'll give that a try tomorrow. Anyone know what Strange's THC hyper is? I'll be honest that one of the things keeping Vergil on my team right now is that the Wesker/Vergil/Strider THC with mashing does some incredible damage.
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Well, I just spent time running my Nova/Zero/Vergil team in some real matches (albeit with pretty much unplayable lag, seriously, goddamn Capcom), and I really like this team dynamic. I can do pretty much anything from anything with a TAC, which is great. As opposed to Vanilla, I'm not putting Zero on point this time around. In fact, I'm almost considering him as a vehicle for X-Factor, since it really seems like they buffed his XF3 speed to absolutely insane heights. The only real problem is the lack of any real way to get in. Sure, I can deal really good damage and I have a number of unblockable/ambiguous reset setups, but I really eat it when it comes to range poo poo.  Edit: Actually, would anyone who has the guide care to check what buffs Zero gets in XF? I can compare it to my Vanilla guide. ACES CURE PLANES fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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Chocolate America posted:Yeah that definitely was not in the command list. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
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Chocolate America posted:Anyone know what Strange's THC hyper is? I'll be honest that one of the things keeping Vergil on my team right now is that the Wesker/Vergil/Strider THC with mashing does some incredible damage. That vertical beam super. It has to be that one because the other two are a counter super and a level 3, respectively. I think it would work fine with that setup, the only risk being lifting the enemy out of Strider's super. Would have to test it to be sure. EDIT: It does indeed lift the enemy out of the dogpile. The other two supers have no problem connecting though. Tetrakarn fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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S-Alpha posted:Well, I just spent time running my Nova/Zero/Vergil team in some real matches (albeit with pretty much unplayable lag, seriously, goddamn Capcom), and I really like this team dynamic. I can do pretty much anything from anything with a TAC, which is great. As opposed to Vanilla, I'm not putting Zero on point this time around. In fact, I'm almost considering him as a vehicle for X-Factor, since it really seems like they buffed his XF3 speed to absolutely insane heights. Zero can zone decently with charged buster, hadangeki, and Vergil rapid slash assist.
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When are those special alternate costumes available for download? Like the one where Zero can look like X and so forth? I ought to start playing online for the PS3 now.
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I got myself a copy of UMvC3 - PS3 Andrew_E85 if you wanna have a go. Yeah, I'm not that good.
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Is Hawkeye any good? You think he would work well with Spencer/Doom? He's just so badass and awesome, I think I want him on my team.
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Vengarr posted:Phoenix Wright chat time! Please evaluate: How about Dormammu on point? When you kill (snapback?) you throw the ball and force them to block while you raw tag for 4-5 evidence? It feels a lot more stable than dealing with rushdown/teleport right off the bat. I would imagine PW's and Haggar's roles overlap too much. They both have no mobility and similar assists that don't really benefit each other when it comes to chasing the enemy down, and that's probably why you don't like tagging straight to Haggar. I think Dorm and Phoenix could really benefit from a horizontal assist like Doom/Sentinel (while switching Dorm to pillar).
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Gammatron 64 posted:Is Hawkeye any good? You think he would work well with Spencer/Doom? He's just so badass and awesome, I think I want him on my team. Well so far Hawkeye is looking stupid strong. Combofiend uses Hawkeye and Spencer and right it seems Doom just goes with every team you can think of so yeah.
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I learned from the guide today that you can't XFC level 3 hypers now and that combos scale properly on assist characters when the point character blocks you. Also, no difference in X-Factor timers between characters.S-Alpha posted:Actually, would anyone who has the guide care to check what buffs Zero gets in XF? I can compare it to my Vanilla guide. He gets 120% damage and speed in XF1, 140% damage & 130% speed in XF2, and 160% damage & 140% speed in XF3.
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Are there any characters that can do the crossover counter (the forward+assist thing while blocking) into an invincible attack and follow it up with a combo that builds back that bar of meter? Are there, perhaps, 3 such characters...?
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FauxCyclops posted:Please present me with all of your Firebrand strategies and combos so that I do not have to do any work. You can get 3 launches if you do: ground combo-> launch, bbc down+c, then do qcb+a to land. Launch again, bbc xx surfboard move, launch one last time, c, s, otg super. Afaik this is his most damaging basic combo. Make sure after the surfboard you dash back out of the corner and then launch. That way you'll be up close when you super to get max damage. Tips: Pick beam or projectile assist, when you make them block call the assist and cancel into dp+b which passes through them. This is a good crossup. You can do dp+a to not pass through them once they know what to expect. The surfboard is really high-priority, so I highly recommend throwing it out in air-to-air situations. Call an assist first if you have a good one, to make it safe in case they block. A good setup when you kill a character is to throw an air C fireball, then cancel it into his power up super. Then meet the incoming character in the air so they have to block the fire carpet. Then do whatever mixup. A strong mixup is to do a standing attack and cancel it into qcb+b. This puts you behind the opponent, and you can press S to hit them on the back of the head, or do qcb+l to land and hit them low. Very hard to block. Overall I recommend more than anything you get a good projectile assist. I use sentinel drones and it makes him a really powerful character. Jmcrofts fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Nov 19, 2011 |
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Jmcrofts posted:You can get 3 launches if you do: I'm not near my xbox at the moment. What's the damage like on this? I've been trying really hard to get Firebrand over 500k with one bar but it's really really hard.
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Somehow I didn't think of this until I read the idea on SRK or somewhere, but Tron Lunch Rush DHCed as soon as the bullet connects into Frank's QCB super (whiffs) gives him time to take three photos (midscreen, at least, maybe not in corner), guaranteeing Level 5 Frank. Of course, Tron might not end up being usable enough to be worth the easy setup.
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bomper posted:How about Dormammu on point? When you kill (snapback?) you throw the ball and force them to block while you raw tag for 4-5 evidence? It feels a lot more stable than dealing with rushdown/teleport right off the bat. I rolled Phoenix/Doom/Dormammu at first, but teleport characters just ate Nick for breakfast. I really, really wish Tron still had the invincible Gustaff Fire, since she could combo off of a Break The Witness wallbounce with her drill. Tried using Iron Man with Repulsar Blast to catch teleporters, but he comes out way too slow. All it meant was lots and lots of happy birthdays for Vergil and Dante. Other options I haven't tested: Frank with the shopping cart, Hulk with anti-air Gamma Charge, Rocket Racoon's claymore.
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Sade posted:I'm not near my xbox at the moment. What's the damage like on this? I've been trying really hard to get Firebrand over 500k with one bar but it's really really hard. I'm not sure offhand but it's over 500k I'm pretty sure.
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Somehow I didn't think of this until I read the idea on SRK or somewhere, but Tron Lunch Rush DHCed as soon as the bullet connects into Frank's QCB super (whiffs) gives him time to take three photos (midscreen, at least, maybe not in corner), guaranteeing Level 5 Frank. Of course, Tron might not end up being usable enough to be worth the easy setup. There are so many characters Frank can do this with that tron isn't really worth using unfortunately.
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