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Renaissance Robot posted:e/ And then they explode. Yeah I was mostly referring to the powers they would have. Specifically, if they'd all explode at the end of the two universes and if they'd all leave a Green Sun behind which would make for all kinds of  e: King of Solomon posted:Vagabond, and he still may have a chance in the normal reality (he's possibly not dead in the troll universe with Bec Noir and PM.) Wayward Vagabond.
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Cleretic posted:I think the Prospitians, or at least WQ, are aware that there's no way to get out of Prospit losing the war, but that's about the extent of it. Plus what they see in the clouds, hence those books in [S]Rose: Descend that talk about the scratch and stuff. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Nov 20, 2011 |
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There's also mention in [S]Rose: Descend that a lot of the white kingdom's mythology is based on hopelessness. That might be because the kids' pre-scratch session was flawed from the beginning, or because the white kingdoms are destined to lose without any outside help.
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Unlucky7 posted:Hopefully, Wandering Vagrant will have another chance in this reality Maybe PM will end up on the post-scratch planet before they start playing sburb and WV will get prototyped into a kernelsprite.
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atomicthumbs posted:Loose Change 4/13: A Sburban Conspiracy
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of bees posted:Maybe PM will end up on the post-scratch planet before they start playing sburb and WV will get prototyped into a kernelsprite. I'm still betting he gets the ring off Jack as payoff for the "You're becoming the monster!" dream. What I hope though is that PM and WV (and/or Jack, I guess) get to meet their alternate selves in the new game, because it'd be neat to see if they have any conception of other copies of themselves existing.
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I finally finished the Dog Tier Jade strife theme I was working on! I ended up collaborating with another fan musician, DiamondCrash, to make something really special! DC did all the guitars and even redid the drums when I got too frustrated with the way mine were turning out. I never realized how fun collaborations could be.
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Dammit Jake, it's not Tetris, it's Klotski. 
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Ubik posted:Dammit Jake, it's not Tetris, it's Klotski. Oh my god is that the World's Most Difficult Trick that's in Lufia 2? I never could solve that goddamned thing. /derail
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Well Manicured Man posted:I finally finished the Dog Tier Jade strife theme I was working on! I ended up collaborating with another fan musician, DiamondCrash, to make something really special! Well Manicured Man I just want to express my fondness for this, it's very good, and I enjoy listening to it. The instrumental selection and how the pieces fit together are really to my taste, thank you.
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His computer even resembles the troll computers.
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RuanGacho posted:Well Manicured Man I just want to express my fondness for this, it's very good, and I enjoy listening to it. The instrumental selection and how the pieces fit together are really to my taste, thank you. Thanks! I spent a long time tweaking all the symphonic instruments so that they fit together nicely with the guitars and even then I'm still not sure if I'm satisfied with my part of the song 
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Well Manicured Man posted:Thanks! I spent a long time tweaking all the symphonic instruments so that they fit together nicely with the guitars and even then I'm still not sure if I'm satisfied with my part of the song Sort of a segway, but do you happen to have a good tutorial on how to use a program like FL Studio to create music?
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pandaK posted:Sort of a segway, but do you happen to have a good tutorial on how to use a program like FL Studio to create music? How To Make Electronic Music is a good source for info, but I mainly figured out FL Studio through trial and error (and reading the manual sometimes). edit: oh and right now I'm using Reaper for its 64-bit capability, and I'm pretty much learning that by trial and error too. It's a lot simpler and easier to use than FL Studio, although FL Studio comes with better presets. And by 'comes with better presets" I mean it comes with presets. Well Manicured Man fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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UU you tease!quote:UU: it is in the way my race propagates. oUr ancestors precede Us by millenia. 95% sure uu is a troll, 50% that she is from the pre-scratch session.
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Making A1 the Troll's Ancestor's universe, A2 the troll's universe, B1 the kid's universe and B2 the current universe, seems to be correct. But it also seems to be a little bit too correct. Or maybe I am just reading too much into this.
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Pretty sure that UU is either a troll, or some third alien race that forms in the successful universe that breaks free from the ridiculous cycle of failure. Also, paving the way for gods could mean both godtiers or Lord English, depending on how sinister you think UU is gonna turn out to be.
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I hesitate to even point this out since she just about outright says it (even referring to arm twisting as in Jake's letter), but it seems UU was the one who brought Jake in contact with Jade and got them started working on Liv Tyler. And she "relayed" the information enabling him to make the weapons; presumably the information will have taken the form of codes, but her wording suggests she got them from someone else first... Also, Jake's continuing need for uranium really makes me hope for a striderlog (brologue?) soon. Will the Striders have some sort of bizarro Lone Ranger thing going on with Maplehoof?! Only time will tell.
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QueerPope posted:Also, paving the way for gods could mean both godtiers or Lord English, depending on how sinister you think UU is gonna turn out to be. quote:pave the way for the arrival of gods.
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I wonder why her name would be something shocking and/or terrifying. Unless it's like... Vriska Egbert Jr or something.
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Saradiart posted:I wonder why her name would be something shocking and/or terrifying. Maybe her name is Betty Crocker 
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Her repetition of the idea of "breaking free of all this folderol" makes me think that it's misdirection - the implication is that Lord English's cycle of universe destruction will end, but it could also be read as freeing him from the rules and remands of said cycle and giving him total freedom to nom down on whatever strand of reality he pleases. With the recurrent importance of the fourth wall in the comic, I'm actually tempted to suspect that the final conflict will centre around LE aiming to break into the really real world and that that's what UU is talking about. Just a theory! I really don't trust her though especially since sending the bunny is what kickstarts the whole "everyything is hosed" chain reaction in the first place, and John wouldn't even need saving from the Sovereign Slayer (which is why she's told Jake he needs to send it) if it weren't for the bunny enabling Jack's rise to power! She might be a troll but I also really suspect her of being a First Guardian or something in that neighbourhood, and of being on the big man's payroll. This whole thing stinks to high heaven! Android Blues fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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quote:pave the way for the arrival of gods. UU is at least slightly sinister though, in that she's responsible for arming the bunny and suggesting the whole idea to Jake and Jade in the first place. Though from her perspective it seems to have turned out all right in the end.
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Jake should really get excited about that whole paving the way for gods thing. A comic buff like him would be reminded of the Silver Surfer being the herald of Galactus, and that worked out really well! Seriously if I weren't certain she that she was referring to the kids that line would be sinister as gently caress.
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Paul.Power posted:That and I'm pretty sure Lord English has never been referred to as a god. Demon, yes, but not a god. She could just be speaking in the short term. Besides that, it's inconsistent with Hussie's usual style that we'd get a character making a purposefully cryptic statement which has an obvious meaning for the audience but is unusual to the character hearing it, and then have that obvious meaning actually be the correct one. This is the lesson gleaned from like, every Doc Scratch log (and parallels between the two characters are worryingly apparent!).
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Although being inconsistent for the purpose of loving with people is also something Hussie has done, if rarely, so yeah.Android Blues posted:Her repetition of the idea of "breaking free of all this folderol" makes me think that it's misdirection - the implication is that Lord English's cycle of universe destruction will end, but it could also be read as freeing him from the rules and remands of said cycle and giving him total freedom to nom down on whatever strand of reality he pleases. With the recurrent importance of the fourth wall in the comic, I'm actually tempted to suspect that the final conflict will centre around LE aiming to break into the really real world and that that's what UU is talking about. The impression I got was more about specifically the kids breaking free, and doing it by actively loving off somewhere safe rather than beating LE, who will likely continue to blight somebody else's existence for the rest of time. At least from the UU/Jane log. Also never heard of anyone trying to "bollocks off" anywhere, while bUgger off would have made more sense for the gimmick and more actual sense, being a thing that someone somewhere has said completely unironically at least once. Not that that last thing is so much of a requirement for this comic, but still.
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Yeah, hmm.UU posted:UU: imagine two Universes, A and B. Okay, right off the bat, mysterious references to unspoken "purposes" always set off a lot of alarm bells. Even worse, though, we know what purposes universe A2 succeeded at. Way to be sinister, UU.
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I'm inclined to think that she's referring to the kids because she is already filling her misdirection quota by dint of her existence, which raises a whole lot of questions. We don't know her motivation yet but I'm reasonably comfortable with assuming she's referring to the four godtier kids in this instance. I imagine that Jade and John, since they took the jump directly through the fourth wall, might end up on Earth while Rose and Dave will go directly to the new A2 session since they're navigating through outer god territory with, presumably, the trolls.
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It's definitely weird. Everything about her not only screams troll, but a troll who had the same relationship with her ancestor as the 12 we know. That is, she had an ancestor, but that ancestor lived a long, long time from when she lived. Which further implies the same sort of ectobiological origins and traveling-via-a-gate-during-the-reckoning as the 24 original trolls made by Karkat. So, hmm.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Also never heard of anyone trying to "bollocks off" anywhere, while bUgger off would have made more sense for the gimmick and more actual sense, being a thing that someone somewhere has said completely unironically at least once. Not that that last thing is so much of a requirement for this comic, but still. I think I have, but it is certainly not that common in this context. It's definitely British English-esque to use the word bollocks though. English spelling (all the extra Us) and the fact that the two snakes around UU's caduceus symbol look like they are the same colour as the one associated with the Green Sun also raises a warning flag for me.
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Android Blues posted:Her repetition of the idea of "breaking free of all this folderol" makes me think that it's misdirection - the implication is that Lord English's cycle of universe destruction will end, but it could also be read as freeing him from the rules and remands of said cycle and giving him total freedom to nom down on whatever strand of reality he pleases. With the recurrent importance of the fourth wall in the comic, I'm actually tempted to suspect that the final conflict will centre around LE aiming to break into the really real world and that that's what UU is talking about. I wouldn't put it past Hussie for this to be a doubly subversive break. In that not only does LE break free from the rules of the cycle, but also from whatever rule makes him evil. So in other words she is trying to bring about her existence or the existence of whoever gives her the orders, just like doc scratch did, but that presence might be no longer evil, or perhaps the whoever commands an omniscient first guardian is no longer Lord English. This is also one of the ways I see to "win" an game where the outcome of being "already here" is guaranteed by the rules of causality. On the gods argument, consider that the caduceus was the staff carried by Hermes, the messenger of the gods.
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I didn't trust UU before, and now I'm sure as hell not going to trust her now that it's been revealed she made Jake build the bunny that's pretty much responsible for every bad thing that happened in act 4 and 5. If it is a Troll though (it probably is) , I'm not sure what her deal is or how she's alive after the vast glub.
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Saradiart posted:I wonder why her name would be something shocking and/or terrifying. Marquise Vriska Egbert Jr. Or it could just be Mindfang.
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By "pave the way for the arrival of gods", I suppose that could also mean the Horrorterrors of the Furthest Ring. I don't think it's likely, mind you. But I will just throw that out there anyway.
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