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Oh jeez. I just realized that every Nova combo I do can lead into one of two different air throw reset setups, and one of them is safe if I call virgil assist when I do it. Gosh I love this character.
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Nova's resets are seriously godlike. Here's a cool video to watch. Particularly the javelin reset, I'm scared.
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Nov 21, 2011 00:02
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Glass Eater posted:Crossover counter is forward + assist any time in blockstun, I believe. Europe didn't get a reverse cover 
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Nov 21, 2011 00:09
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Seizure Robot posted:Nova's resets are seriously godlike. Here's a cool video to watch. That combo to get Frank to Level 4 is pretty nice. If I get fed up with how different Tron feels and how neutered her combos are, I might have to give Nova a try instead.
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Nov 21, 2011 00:54
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Kageneko posted:You sound a lot like me. I'd love to play you but I'm on xbox. Appreciate that. It's a weird thing to have to deal with since I don't fully understand why it happens. I know it's just an online match that means little - it's practically an extended training mode - but no matter the rationalizing, it still kicks in. There's enough on my mind without it, just trying to get use to the delay factor, so it really isn't a fun time. What's worse is my mental reflex wants me to go in with crouched magic series into launcher, but Iron Fist cannot link his launcher if the opponent is caught floating and the crouching heavy hit is a sweep that causes them to be air born for a moment (like Ryu's). Trying to break that habit so I can do some standing attacks (his medium and heavy standing dash him forward as well, I gotta learn to make use of that). Crayvex posted:Speaking of salty online play, how is it that everyone I've played online is 100000 times better than me?.. As I mentioned before, those who played in vanilla are now reset in their rankings. This means that a lot of Beginner ranked players are actually much more experienced due to their online time in MvC3. As well, they seem to be more focused on joining Spectator lobbies and not so much going up in their ranks. So, trying to tell if someone really is new or not requires looking at their battle stats. In my limited experience yesterday, the majority of players joining the Beginners Only labelled lobby were actually newer players - at least, they played like it. Only after a while did we get someone who was more competent, and even he I wouldn't say was "good", just, was able to do full sentinel combos.
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Nov 21, 2011 01:00
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:That combo to get Frank to Level 4 is pretty nice. If I get fed up with how different Tron feels and how neutered her combos are, I might have to give Nova a try instead. 
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Nov 21, 2011 01:00
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Seizure Robot posted:Nova's resets are seriously godlike. Here's a cool video to watch. Those combos are godlike. Makes me realize how much I don't know. At least I found the fly/unfly ground thing before seeing the video. I especially liked the gravimetric pulse H square jump corner setup. Now I gotta figure out if I want to pick up Spencer for that combo extender assist.
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Nov 21, 2011 01:16
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Why does everyone say Doom no longer needs the buktooth loop, what does he use instead?
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Nov 21, 2011 01:29
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As I understood Doom in vanilla, he needed the Buktooth loop for his midscreen combo. Now he can do launch, M (2 hits) M f+H S airdash downforward whiff M, land, jump upforward, immediate airdash downforward, land, H (OTG) S into another air combo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3VgCH-oPbc&t=3m17s or 3:17 in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3VgCH-oPbc
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Nov 21, 2011 01:44
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Dante's new arcade mode ending is the best
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Nov 21, 2011 01:57
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Niddhogg posted:Sengoku Basara X was published by Capcom.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:03
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leather fedora posted:So was Fate Unlimited Codes. Doesn't mean they could reference Saber or Emiya that easily. Or Strider Hiryu? The entire franchise is based off of the games that Capcom makes.
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leather fedora posted:So was Fate Unlimited Codes. Doesn't mean they could reference Saber or Emiya that easily. Except Sengoku Basara does actually belong to Capcom. They had two games in the franchise made before Arc even made SBX.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:07
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Yes. We need more characters with swords, this is a thing we should argue for.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:13
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NecroMonster posted:Yes. We need more characters with swords, this is a thing we should argue for. Only if they have longcoats too.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:14
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Speaking of longcoats, I just realized Vergil's cash alt will probably transform into Nelo Angelo  Also there are plenty of Sengoku Basara characters that would be cool in this game that don't use swords but whatever
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Nov 21, 2011 02:21
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Niddhogg posted:Only if they have longcoats too. If only they gave Tron a longcoat. One for Tron and one for Gustaff. ThePhenomenalBaby posted:Speaking of longcoats, I just realized Vergil's cash alt will probably transform into Nelo Angelo Yeah the DT is Nelo Angelo and it's  as hell
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Nov 21, 2011 02:24
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NecroMonster posted:Yes. We need more characters with swords, this is a thing we should argue for.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:26
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Cat Machine posted:You're playing... Tron?! I was messing around with the concept, because like I mentioned before, any Tron combo into Lunch Rush whiff DHCed into Frank's qcb super gives him time for three camera shots, guaranteeing Level 5 Frank. Nova can only get Frank to 4 with the combo in that video, but Nova is most likely far and away more playable on point than Tron is so it might be worth the difference.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:27
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iPodschun posted:As I understood Doom in vanilla, he needed the Buktooth loop for his midscreen combo. Now he can do launch, M (2 hits) M f+H S airdash downforward whiff M, land, jump upforward, immediate airdash downforward, land, H (OTG) S into another air combo. Oh my goodness, you don't need to Buktooth with Doom in order to be good anymore? What am I fighting foooooorrr
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Nov 21, 2011 02:30
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Cat Machine posted:Yukimara from SB would be really cool and own. A sick combo of Sonson and Sol from GGX!! Yeah I'd say Yukimura would be a decent fit what with his whole fire and dual lance shtick. A lot of the notable characters from Basara already have other characters in this game filling their niche.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:31
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Date Masamune would essentially be Wolvergil and that would be kinda cool/scary in a way I guess
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Nov 21, 2011 02:32
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Cat Machine posted:Date Masamune would essentially be Wolvergil and that would be kinda cool/scary in a way I guess Vergil is already Wolvergil, we don't need another.
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Nov 21, 2011 02:45
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Cinroth posted:If only they gave Tron a longcoat. One for Tron and one for Gustaff. Uhhh are you sure? Looking at the gamespot article (http://uk.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-final/image-feature/index.html?image=10) it definitely looks like Sparda to me, I was pretty disappointed
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Nov 21, 2011 02:57
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CrossCounter is streaming their tournament, they've got a pretty sweet setup/ http://www.justin.tv/thestreamdottv
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Fellblade posted:Vergil is already Wolvergil, we don't need another. But the guns need to be put on.  Tokugawa would fit, but for some reason I feel he would be like Iron Fist. Magoichi would be awesome, but we already have a ton of gun characters.
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doctor/prostitute posted:Uhhh are you sure? Looking at the gamespot article (http://uk.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-final/image-feature/index.html?image=10) it definitely looks like Sparda to me, I was pretty disappointed Now that you're pointing it out I may be wrong though and it's not that either, been awhile since I played DMC3... *edit* Yeah it's definitely Sparda and I'm dumb but I'm hype anyway!! Cinroth fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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I'm gonna say something and I wanna see if you people agree: you can actually get pretty decent at MvC3 just laboring in training mode, but I can't see that happening with SF4. I feel like this game is more about mixup tricks and proactivity after getting a hit, while AE requires a lot more of matchup knowledge, which is something you can't get just from training mode. I dunno, just had this in my mind and decided to put it out there.
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Dias posted:I'm gonna say something and I wanna see if you people agree: you can actually get pretty decent at MvC3 just laboring in training mode, but I can't see that happening with SF4. I feel like this game is more about mixup tricks and proactivity after getting a hit, while AE requires a lot more of matchup knowledge, which is something you can't get just from training mode. I dunno, just had this in my mind and decided to put it out there. You can get pretty far in AE through training mode tech if you pick the right characters.
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Cinroth posted:
To clarify some DMC minutia for all ya'll, in DMC3 SE that costume is unlockable, but transforms you into one of the bosses from DMC1, not Sparda. Not that it really matters.  In any case way to be lazy Capcom 
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Cinroth posted:
I was just hoping you knew something I didn't, it's not a bad alt I guess but it's kind of stupid that it's almost identical to Dante's when they could have differentiated them more, I'd definitely have put down money for a Nelo Angelo DT alt.
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:To clarify some DMC minutia for all ya'll, in DMC3 SE that costume is unlockable, but transforms you into one of the bosses from DMC1, not Sparda. Not that it really matters. Yeah I know that, I just didn't remember exactly what his DT looked like in that costume in DMC3, but got blown up when I googled it. And yeah it's lazy as hell but that's crapcom!!
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Dias posted:I'm gonna say something and I wanna see if you people agree: you can actually get pretty decent at MvC3 just laboring in training mode, but I can't see that happening with SF4. I feel like this game is more about mixup tricks and proactivity after getting a hit, while AE requires a lot more of matchup knowledge, which is something you can't get just from training mode. I dunno, just had this in my mind and decided to put it out there.
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Here's some Wright tech for y'all, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0QuIEokSo
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Nov 21, 2011 03:39
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I'm really trying my best with Iron Man. I see what the strategy guide says to do with him, I just haven't been able to execute their "battle plan" with any luck yet. Is there -any- footage of a decent UMvC3 Iron Man just playing the game?
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Nov 21, 2011 03:42
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Doesn't the strategy guide suggest superjumping, then flying straight up and repeatedly using smartbombs?
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I'm having trouble threatening with the recommended long distance tri-jumps, in particular.
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Nov 21, 2011 03:53
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Please ban the use of the black and white ghouls and ghost stage, it hurts my eyes
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I played a lot of point Iron Man in vanilla - he was the anchor/assist char on my vanilla team - and from what I can tell, he does a lot more damage when he lands a hit in Ultimate, but his nerfed trijump plus the fact that he still can't do cr.LMHS makes it ten times harder to land that hit in the first place. While I'm on a tangent, riddle me this, thread: Hawkeye is, judging by his array of projectiles, ostensibly a zoning character. His st.H is a projectile, and it combos into S, slide, f+H, all his specials and the gold arrow super. Rocket Raccoon is, again ostensibly, a zoning character, and has projectile standing and crouching H's that combo, again, into his standing S. Iron Man's changes all seem to involve weakening his tri-jump offense in exchange for strengthening his zoning game, and they even went to the trouble to make his cr.H missile fly more horizontally and special cancellable, but it doesn't combo from his cr.M and doesn't lead to anything in particular. It kinda sucks, Iron Man is a cool character. 
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I'm not sure why it bothers you so much that Iron Man can't do cr.lmhs. He can do cr.l l l m s, so what's the difference?
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