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Rhinoceraptor posted:God, the text colors make it feel like I'm reading Aquaman's laundry. I agree. I long for more cotton candy antics between Jane and ____ Lalonde
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His name has got to be Dane. There's no other name douchey enough. Dane is scientifically proven by a team of douchologists to be the douchiest name.
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Doc Uzuki posted:His name has got to be Dane. There's no other name douchey enough. Dane is scientifically proven by a team of douchologists to be the douchiest name. Chad is a way douchier name than Dane. Dane is probably the douchiest 'd' name, though.
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Paul.Power posted:And a flawed frog was probably Scratch and English's goal all along. Hmmm, we know the flawed frog was because Kanaya let Karkat hurry her along. Do we have any indication that said hurrying has anything to do with Scratch? I thought it was just Karkat being Karkat. Also, regarding UU: she's an interesting character, really. She seems to come off as this omniscient being, but what all do we know about her omniscience? Has she actually shown that she really knows anything important? I've been taking her omniscience as being similar to Jade's or the trolls'. That is, she knows about things that will happen in the future, but not necessarily why- or even the how, in some cases. She could be more along the lines of Scratch, who legitimately knows things, but I'm not convinced. I think she's just an extra-universal being. She has all this knowledge about the post-Scratch guardians' future, but that's just because she can see it happen in her Trollian equivalent chat client. EDIT: Also the auto-responder log was great. I look forward to more mishaps with both it and kidBro himself.
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To me, UU comes off as no more omniscient than Jade in Acts 1-4 (due to her seeing visions in Skaia's clouds) or the trolls (due to trollian time shenanigans). As a result, the only bit of First Guardian-ness that I really see in her is her name.
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Nate RFB posted:To me, UU comes off as no more omniscient than Jade in Acts 1-4 (due to her seeing visions in Skaia's clouds) or the trolls (due to trollian time shenanigans). As a result, the only bit of First Guardian-ness that I really see in her is her name. She also has a white/green colour scheme, her vision is partially foiled by Lalonde's (possible) Void powers, and her helpful-but-cryptic manner is a bit too reminiscent of Doc Scratch. To be frank I'd really like her to be a good guy (for some reason), but she just seems very suspicious to me.
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So Bro's auto responder is this universe's version of a dream bot and real Bro is currently asleep and tooling around Derse right now, isn't he?
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Glory of Arioch posted:Chad is a way douchier name than Dane. Dane is probably the douchiest 'd' name, though. This is pretty funny because according to the arbitrary rules Andrew set himself when selecting the kids' names, Dave was "supposed" to have been named Chad Buskin. (We all lucked out there.)
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Nov 21, 2011 17:03
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I really hope that Bro earnestly loves poo poo like Detective Pony and uses his obnoxious SAT vocabulary to do literary analysis on horse-themed children's books. Also that we see Latawnya the Naughty Horse somewhere.
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quote:GT: Oh. Yes! But of course. I couldn't help hearing this in Old Timey Strong Bad's voice for some reason. That is going to end up being Jake's default voice in my head now whether I like it or not. So yeah, I had been under the assumption that Kidbro didn't put down his glasses and turn the auto-responder on until the first instance of "It seems", and the beginning of the conversation actually featured him, until I saw that people in the thread think otherwise. Which means that unless everyone Bro knows is constantly shaking him down for uranium, he puts custom settings in for each individual person (ie "Jake" => "probably being overly flowery and asking for uranium"). Which would be pretty cool. The problem is that then it'd inexplicably start acting a lot more chatbot-like later on. So my headcanon for this conversation is still going to be that Bro engaged Jake in conversation, saw that he only wanted uranium, turned him down, and then turned on the auto-responder to allow for no further argument. It just makes so much sense. And if this is true I gotta say I like Kidbro's personality. He's a cross between Rose and Dave, but, like, in the opposite way Kidmom is. Dave's personality with Rose's mannerisms.
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I really like Jake begging for uranium over the internet. And that Strider is in the middle of a Texas city and has uranium readily available.
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loquacius posted:I couldn't help hearing this in Old Timey Strong Bad's voice for some reason. That is going to end up being Jake's default voice in my head now whether I like it or not.
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Mr. Pumroy posted:I really like Jake begging for uranium over the internet. And that Strider is in the middle of a Texas city and has uranium readily available. This IS a universe where it's apparently fairly normal for teenagers to know how to make robots (at least that's the impression I got from "im not the best or even second best robosmith i know!").
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Paul.Power posted:Yeah, that makes an awful lot of sense. The first Strider "monologue" of the pesterlog, for instance, doesn't seem much like an autoresponder (if only for the simple reason that it's a monologue, rather than a response). quote:GT: Jesus christmas you are such a loving douche. he sets the glasses down, lets the autoresponder to take over, and leaves.
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Thats the way I read it too, but I guess we will find out soon enough. Not soon enough really.
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Gizmotinker posted:Reread the Brolog assuming that Bro is the one responding, but at the point I prefer to interpret it that Bro has created an autoresponder that is smart enough to give that whole uranium spiel but still falls prey to giving SmarterChild/ELIZA-esque responses occasionally. I also hope that Bro prototypes his autoresponder.
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Android Blues posted:She also has a white/green colour scheme, her vision is partially foiled by Lalonde's (possible) Void powers, and her helpful-but-cryptic manner is a bit too reminiscent of Doc Scratch. To be frank I'd really like her to be a good guy (for some reason), but she just seems very suspicious to me. The thing is, her color scheme is also very similar to Karkat's, and we know that grimdark hides a person from Trollian. It reasonable to speculate, then, that kidMom's void powers (or whatever her deal is) can hinder UU's Cheerian (or whatever her client is called. We don't know, I just pulled that out of my rear end.)
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Gizmotinker posted:Reread the Brolog assuming that Bro is the one responding, but at the point Assuming this also leads me to the conclusion that Bro was talking to Jake while he was on the toilet.
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creationist believer posted:I prefer to interpret it that Bro has created an autoresponder that is smart enough to give that whole uranium spiel but still falls prey to giving SmarterChild/ELIZA-esque responses occasionally. That's how I read it as well. kidBro is just so good at computers that his autoresponder actually pretty much sounds just like him. I can see the interpretation that he switched Jake off, though, but kidBro's side of the conversation was generally pretty realistic even after we learned for sure it was the autoresponder
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haruspex posted:Assuming this also leads me to the conclusion that Bro was talking to Jake while he was on the toilet. Who takes off their shirt to take a dump?
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I think Bro probably anticipated the conversation with Jake and programmed the bot to follow a script verbatim for the first few lines. He knew he was going to message him asking for uranium, and he knew how the exchange was going to go.. but after the script ended, then the bot went on its own logic.
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creationist believer posted:I prefer to interpret it that Bro has created an autoresponder that is smart enough to give that whole uranium spiel but still falls prey to giving SmarterChild/ELIZA-esque responses occasionally. Up until it ran out of things to say, the conversation was entirely determined by the bot, with little regard for what Jake was saying. I mean, even if Bro was there, he clearly knew what Jake was going to say, so it's perfectly reasonable that he wasn't even there for that. From the autoresponder's perspective, the conversation basically goes- State your business. [waits a while] That's bullshit. I hope you were being ironic. Say you were ironic. [waits] Good. Now that you've said you were being ironic, I bet you need Uranium. [waits] You are out of Uranium. Can't fool me. And so on. I mean, considering how sophisticated the autoresponder was when confronted with its own inhuman nature, it's not at all surprising that it could navigate this simple one sided conversation, especially as Bro apparently knew it was coming.
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I'm starting to think Jake actually is somehow aligned with Lord English to some negative degree. At first I expected he was going for a fakeout by having the connection be strongly implied and then have that not turn out to be true. Now, after having seen all of Jake's computer devices and especially the Cairo Coattop, I get the feeling Hussie is going for a double-fakeout. The hints have wrapped around from 'so obvious it's got to be a trick' to 'so amazingly blatant the trick is that it's not a trick'
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King of Solomon posted:The thing is, her color scheme is also very similar to Karkat's, and we know that grimdark hides a person from Trollian. It reasonable to speculate, then, that kidMom's void powers (or whatever her deal is) can hinder UU's Cheerian (or whatever her client is called. We don't know, I just pulled that out of my rear end.) Her being similar to Karkat just makes me more suspicious, since the post-Scratch universe has lots of sinister versions of benevolent pre-Scratch things (CrockerCorp has replaced SkaiaNet, Grandpa Harley/Becquerel have given way to weird Lord English iconography). If there's a post-Scratch person supplanting Karkat's role (initially cantankerous and antagonistic, ultimately a helpful good guy) then I'm expecting a similarly sinisiter reversal, which is only backed by UU being very purposefully the opposite of Karkat as he was when we first knew him!
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Pleasant Friend posted:Who takes off their shirt to take a dump? George Costanza loquacius posted:He's a cross between Rose and Dave, but, like, in the opposite way Kidmom is. Dave's personality with Rose's mannerisms. What a horrifying chimera. Also, I love the meta-joke going on here. Everyone is dying to see Bro, and Andrew toys with us in pretending we are, and then we realize as Jake does that we aren't, and we share his disappointment. HUSSIE  On a serious note: I know headcannon or whatever is bad and all, but how does this jive with the whole "Bro is actually sincere." I'm glad he's not just a dumb weeaboo/Brony thing because that's not much to build a personality on, but he IS a big enough douchebag to pull off the whole superiority complex of the japanophile. Not that he has to be or anything, I wasn't overly fond of that idea to begin with, but I did like the theory that he was unironically into terrible things. I guess he really still could be, and also be a big unironic rear end on top of it. (Or maybe the characters are just more interesting and complex then we were expecting.) I'm really looking forward to the other character's interactions with him. We finally understand Jake's apprehension. Starmaker fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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Android Blues posted:Her being similar to Karkat just makes me more suspicious, since the post-Scratch universe has lots of sinister versions of benevolent pre-Scratch things (CrockerCorp has replaced SkaiaNet, Grandpa Harley/Becquerel have given way to weird Lord English iconography). If there's a post-Scratch person supplanting Karkat's role (initially cantankerous and antagonistic, ultimately a helpful good guy) then I'm expecting a similarly sinisiter reversal, which is only backed by UU being very purposefully the opposite of Karkat as he was when we first knew him! Certainly, I agree with her being very sinister. I'm just suggesting that she is not actually a Scratch equivalent so much as she's still more a character with imperfect information; just more information than Jane et al.
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Am I crazy, or is there an implication that Bro is gay? It's hard to decipher what level of irony the "for me to rush to your vicinity as nakedly as possible" line was, but Kidmom did say Jane was naive for thinking she and Strider were perfect for each other. On the other hand, I could see Bro's autoresponder running the Sburb client and server applications. Every character interaction will be with the autoresponder. We never see or meet Bro himself, he is just too drat elusive.
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I just saw Dave Strider on TV. I was walking by and glanced upon some guy talking about a new CGI penguin movie.Right to the left of was a large picture of hero mode Dave. Cant for the life of me find it on youtube though. I just saw Dave Strider on TV.
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creationist believer posted:On the other hand, I could see Bro's autoresponder running the Sburb client and server applications. Every character interaction will be with the autoresponder. We never see or meet Bro himself, he is just too drat elusive.
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Starmaker posted:On a serious note: I know headcannon or whatever is bad and all, but how does this jive with the whole "Bro is actually sincere." I'm glad he's not just a dumb weeaboo/Brony thing because that's not much to build a personality on, but he IS a big enough douchebag to pull off the whole superiority complex of the japanophile. Not that he has to be or anything, I wasn't overly fond of that idea to begin with, but I did like the theory that he was unironically into terrible things. I feel like his talk about not making it easy for Jake when it's something Jake stakes his pride on is very consistent with the "Bro is unironic" deal. It's the same as the way he tests Dave and it's also the whole silly Japanophile personal honour samurai code thing. Of course that might not be the case but there is something pretty anime about Mr. Miyagi'ing your friends so that they can unlock their inner potential. creationist believer posted:Am I crazy, or is there an implication that Bro is gay? It's hard to decipher what level of irony the "for me to rush to your vicinity as nakedly as possible" line was, but Kidmom did say Jane was naive for thinking she and Strider were perfect for each other. It sounded to me like Bro was either into Jake and had been previously rebuffed, or he was just being creepy-ironic in that way Dave at once inherits and finds unnerving.
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My first instinct was that UU is the Condesce, doing whatever inscrutable time meddling Lord English required of her, maybe even creating him. Then, I realized that the text should be purple then, unless they come up with an explanation for it. Maybe the trolls talking to the new kids are from the peaceful pre-scratch Alternia. The new Strider reminds me of Doc Scratch, with his creepy prescience and the auto-response reminding me of the Magic Cue Balls. Where did it say his first initial was D? I missed it. VVV Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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Dr Christmas posted:The new Strider reminds me of Doc Scratch, with his creepy prescience and the auto-response reminding me of the Magic Cue Balls. The initials don't help either.
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I thought he wasn't supposed to be ironic at all. And while I'm all for gay characters in media or whatever, it still seems slightly out of place. It just seems a bit too overtly sexual for Homestuck (yes I know quadrants but alien sex is different okay)
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Starmaker posted:And while I'm all for gay characters in media or whatever, it still seems slightly out of place. It just seems a bit too overtly sexual for Homestuck (yes I know quadrants but alien sex is different okay) How is it any more or less sexual than Jane having a crush on Jake?
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Starmaker posted:I thought he wasn't supposed to be ironic at all. This is really dumb and a common complaint about homosexuality in media. You realise there's a bunch of straight characters who talk about kissing each other all the time in the comic already, right? There's this assumption that heterosexuality can be innocent and romantic, but homosexuality is a PG-13 thing - which is really just entirely wrong. I mean, that apart from the ridiculousness of the complaint based on what's been in the comic already. Do you not remember when Dave was telling Tavros that he'd lucked out on as much pubescent boy dick as he could handle, and talking about his "naked spam porpoise"? That's kind of academic though, because honestly saying homosexuality is overtly sexual but giving straight romance a pass is just duuuuuuumb and super wrong and I think that needs to be driven home.
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creationist believer posted:Am I crazy, or is there an implication that Bro is gay? It's hard to decipher what level of irony the "for me to rush to your vicinity as nakedly as possible" line was, but Kidmom did say Jane was naive for thinking she and Strider were perfect for each other.
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Starmaker posted:I thought he wasn't supposed to be ironic at all.
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Starmaker posted:I thought he wasn't supposed to be ironic at all. Dave identifies his species as "North American Hollering Phallus Babboon" to Terezi, so.
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