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Peter North
Apr 23, 2003
What are my best options for the type of noise percussion sounds you hear so often in film soundtracks? A good example of what I want to replicate is the live-sounding drums and the filtered snare in this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awis0rITF1c&t=3m

I have heard good things about stuff like TrueStrike and Drums of War for this type of stuff, but a good amount of it is also recorded live. I have also heard great things about Zebra's capabilities for this type of stuff (like Hans Zimmer a shitload of Zebra instances to create the percussion in the Inception score) but never really explored it myself. Anybody know a bit more about this?

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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Any ideas on how to get the sort of sound going on at the beginning of this track?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPzbz8VLxs

It sounds like layered samples and FM synth with maybe a bit of strummed clean guitar, but that fuzz ambiance is something I can't for the life of me figure out. It's too sustained to be guitar I thing. I'm stumped.

Rakshas
Jun 7, 2003
Oompa Loompa Extraordinarie

QPZIL posted:

Any ideas on how to get the sort of sound going on at the beginning of this track?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPzbz8VLxs

It sounds like layered samples and FM synth with maybe a bit of strummed clean guitar, but that fuzz ambiance is something I can't for the life of me figure out. It's too sustained to be guitar I thing. I'm stumped.

http://soundcloud.com/befy/recreating-wolves-in-the

This was fun! I used some stock instruments from ableton to create the Female choir sounds. The one that comes in late I used an autofilter to get the 'ooh-aah' effect.

For the guitar I used the 'guitar-shred power' instrument with some reverb and overdrive.

I just happened to have the windchime sfx.

The fuzz ambiance is just white noise with an autofilter, chorus and eq.

And for the deep bassy rumble in the beginning I just used a soundless bass kick and swell looped in sampler.

EDIT: i'm not happy with the vocals that come in late. Oh well.

Rakshas fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Sep 13, 2011

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Peter North posted:

What are my best options for the type of noise percussion sounds you hear so often in film soundtracks?

http://8dio.com/?btp_product=hybrid-tools-vol-1 has you covered. http://8dio.com/?btp_product=epic-toms-ensemble too.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


I downloaded the Massive demo a couple days ago and have not been able to stop messing around in it. Even for someone with limited knowledge it's been pretty great to work with in terms of figuring out how to craft different sounds.

drat you, half-hour trial limit! :argh:

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
Are there any situations where tapping with a pick as opposed to your fingers is advantageous? I find it feels really strange to tap with a pick, but it does give a slightly different sound.

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.

the Bunt posted:

Are there any situations where tapping with a pick as opposed to your fingers is advantageous? I find it feels really strange to tap with a pick, but it does give a slightly different sound.

If you tense your arm a bit you can tap extremely fast but not really controlled. I think Joe Satriani did that in a song once.

EDIT: Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2s7WMVMDjU&t=3m50s

Boz0r fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 7, 2011

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!
How can I create a basic, warm synth bass sound, such as the one Bjork uses here? I'm using Synth1 and Zebra VSTs, but am inept at both.

colonp
Apr 21, 2007
Hi!
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colonp fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 8, 2014

WHATEVS SISTER
Feb 20, 2003

Now here comes the fun part...

I was just going to ask a similar question. This was 100% what I was looking for. Thank you so much!

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

colonp posted:

Sine wave, some attack, bit more decay, sustain a bit down, some release.

The attack and release is to make it a bit softer/less demanding, decay+sustain down to give it some snappyness (just a bit).

I've tried recreating it in synth1, but can't get it quite right.

Yeah, that's about as far as I've got, but it's not really there yet... it's so soft it gets lost in the mix. Maybe Synth1 isn't the right tool for it.

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

Popcorn posted:

Yeah, that's about as far as I've got, but it's not really there yet... it's so soft it gets lost in the mix. Maybe Synth1 isn't the right tool for it.

I keep telling you Synth1 is shite and you just won't listen.

Anyway, if it's getting lost in the mix with just a sine, try using a saw or something and filter it fairly heavily (but so that there are still some harmonics)

That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
So I really like the sound here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKkxmXXhbTE#t=2m40s (at 2:40 if the link doesn't work)

That scratchy "rink-rink-rink" noise that sounds like a hosed up turntable.

I realize asking how Skrillex makes his sounds is like asking how quantum physics works, but I'm trying to work through it anyway to train my ears and my music-making brain. I use Massive and Ableton Live.

When I listen to it, I can't tell if it's a volume envelope opening up rapidly or else an LFO cutoff wavering back and forth. I can make my own sounds that have that higher pitched gritty noise, I'm just trying to figure out how he makes them scratch up and down like that.

GbrushTwood
Jul 18, 2004
Mighty Pirate.

Anal Surgery posted:

So I really like the sound here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKkxmXXhbTE#t=2m40s (at 2:40 if the link doesn't work)

That scratchy "rink-rink-rink" noise that sounds like a hosed up turntable.

When I listen to it, I can't tell if it's a volume envelope opening up rapidly or else an LFO cutoff wavering back and forth. I can make my own sounds that have that higher pitched gritty noise, I'm just trying to figure out how he makes them scratch up and down like that.


Sometimes, instead of trying to get the sound to repeat over and over again by using an LFO or envelope, try just bouncing out the individual sounds to audio and messing around with audio clips. For example, in that sound that Skrillex uses, it's repeating that one sound 3 times as a triplet. Instead of trying to make it repeat itself in the synth with LFOs, a lot of times the easiest thing to do is once you make your sound in midi, just bounce it out as audio and chop it up that way.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




I figured that was the results of a buttload of time spend in the MASSIVE Performer tab. The dude knows his way around NI Massive, no matter what detractors say.

I'm not near my computer, but I think you'll want to be setting an OSC to format, with a 'dirty' wave and modulating both the Wavetable Position and the Intensity with a Performer/LFO. But that's pretty basic.

BlandMan123
Nov 29, 2004
I guess the holidays are over for them.
All right, I've heard sounds like this before, and I haven't the slightest clue how to make them. This is the song "Celestial" by Doctrine, and the sound comes on at :59 (and 1:07, and throughout the song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tppwx_6lCJc

It's a really weird kind of distortion, but it feels so wonderful to my ears and I wanna put it in a song I'm making.

I'm using Logic, for what it's worth.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

dolphins are gay posted:

The dude knows his way around NI Massive, no matter what detractors say.
He also knows his way around FM8 which is how several of those sounds are made and yes, audio clips make it a lot easier.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Can someone help me replicate this sound?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Rr8iVJ7ok

Its the synthy thing that comes in around 2 minutes. It sounds like it should be something simple to replicate but I dont know where to start.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
Sounds like a transistor organ - try Farfisa/Vox Continental. They've got drawbars too so you might have to mess around with 'm to get the right mix.

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master
It does sound a little like a Vox Continental but it also sounds like a guitar played through a harmonizer > fuzz > envelope pedals and then reversed.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

How do I get that kind of vibe from programming a synth though? I dont need it exact.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Nov 22, 2011

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I'm not really a musician so I'm not looking for any software specifics for how this sound is made, but I'd love if someone could explain how this really short popping staccato drum (?) effect is achieved. Kicks in at ~10s. I love the effect but its mysterious origins drive me nuts. I've heard it in a lot of other songs too. The clip in particular is from Sugar Ghost by ...Music Video? (some clips here I guess)

I'm sure I just asked some "music for babbys 101" question, but I figure if anyone can explain it to me, you guys can. Thanks! :)

The clip in question: http://www.zshare.net/audio/965183599ea7c296/

e: While I'm not a serious musician, I do have some Reason experience, so a technical explanation wouldn't be unwelcome :)

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Nov 23, 2011

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

Martytoof posted:

I'm not really a musician so I'm not looking for any software specifics for how this sound is made, but I'd love if someone could explain how this really short popping staccato drum (?) effect is achieved. Kicks in at ~10s. I love the effect but its mysterious origins drive me nuts.

The clip in question: http://www.zshare.net/audio/965183599ea7c296/


The sound is simply triggered with 32nd timing.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Well I meant more like how is the actual individual pop sound achieved.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Nov 23, 2011

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

massive spider posted:

How do I get that kind of vibe from programming a synth though? I dont need it exact.
What do you have at your disposal?

Martytoof posted:

Well I meant more like how is the actual individual pop sound achieved.

If you have Reason 5 or higher, open up the Kong device, use the Snare drum physical model, and set it to something with only just a little noise/rattle, and high tension so the pitch is all the way up. EQ out the lows if necessary, then play 32nd notes. Automate the tension (pitch) when you need it, or simply sample it and spread the sample out over the keyboard.

You could even use the arpeggiator and crank the tempo up from 4th or 8th to 32nd temporarily to get something that's in sync and easy to program.

Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Nov 24, 2011

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Thanks, I'll give it a shot :)

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Laserjet 4P posted:

What do you have at your disposal?

Synth 1, Ableton Simpler, Analog.

mottbag
Nov 11, 2009
Wondering if anyone would have any idea on how to achieve the bass and guitar tones/sound in this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLExQihtDI&feature=related

Underflow
Apr 4, 2008

EGOMET MIHI IGNOSCO

mottbag posted:

Wondering if anyone would have any idea on how to achieve the bass and guitar tones/sound in this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLExQihtDI&feature=related

Bass: mid scoop, treble boost, chorus pedal with a lot of feedback/effect, play with a pick close to the bridge on a Precision or clone - basically how and what he's playing in that clip. Easiest way to get that tone: set the 2 mid bands to min and the 2 treble bands to max on a cheap 6-band EQ for guitar, like an MXR. 10:1 it was recorded straight into the board with a DI.

Guitar: first guess would be either an overdrive pedal into a Roland Jazz Chorus or a DI box. The modulation effect also sounds like a simple stomp box. Bit of delay on there too.

Mr. Mutton Chops
Apr 2, 2010
So how would one go about achieving this guitar sound?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BQKFqEvbK1g#t=115s
I'm thinking it's a distorted, fuzzy Leslie/rotary pedal effect, but I'm not that knowledgeable on the subject.

Edit: The pitch is pretty off but you get the idea.

Mr. Mutton Chops fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 12, 2011

Avian Pneumonia
May 24, 2006

ASK ME ABOUT MY OPINIONS ON CANCEL CULTURE
How do I get this guitar sound?
Also:
What guitars am I looking at here? I have no idea, but I want both of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWnei0vcyig&feature=player_embedded

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Avian Pneumonia posted:

How do I get this guitar sound?
Also:
What guitars am I looking at here? I have no idea, but I want both of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWnei0vcyig&feature=player_embedded

Sorry for no answer, but what movie is this from?

The Mystery Date
Aug 2, 2005
STRAGHT FOOL IN A GAY POOL (MUPPETS ROCK)
Ever since I got into synthesis, I've wanted to know how to make the synth sound from DJ Sammy's "Heaven". It comes in at around 0:15. I thought it was just a couple of saws detuned with a deep bass sine or triangle wave underneath, but I just can't get anything that sounds remotely like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUuqbSyTHY

Also, lately I've tried to get the synth sound from "Blood is Pumping" by Voodoo and Serano (comes in a 0:42). I'm pretty sure its just filtered saw with the resonance turned up and a small sweep plus a bunch of distortion. I've come sort of close, but again I can't really get the right sound. I'm guessing you pretty much have to have the right distortion unit or it'll never sound the same, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaZfdDJ8VpA

I realize these are cheesy tracks, but I'd appreciate any help making these sounds as part of my synthesis education. I have Massive and everything else that comes in Native Instrument's Komplete.

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master

The Mystery Date posted:

Ever since I got into synthesis, I've wanted to know how to make the synth sound from DJ Sammy's "Heaven". It comes in at around 0:15. I thought it was just a couple of saws detuned with a deep bass sine or triangle wave underneath, but I just can't get anything that sounds remotely like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUuqbSyTHY
Have you tried putting detuned saws in dif octaves or perhaps some dif interval like 5ths?

Sounds kind of Hoover-ish to me.

Hogscraper fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Dec 14, 2011

GbrushTwood
Jul 18, 2004
Mighty Pirate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjWkJxzpMaY

It's a trance super saw with a low pass filter set at the right level just to even out the edges. So basically what they video does, except don't turn the attack to high since you want stabby chords.

The Mystery Date
Aug 2, 2005
STRAGHT FOOL IN A GAY POOL (MUPPETS ROCK)
Yeah I've tried 5ths (and 13ths and -4ths) and different octaves, but I just can't get it to sound nearly as huge or have as big of an impact as the original.

Edit: Ok, I'm really close now. The trick was just to make the low bass significantly louder than the saws 1 and 2 octaves above it. Also, white noise is key. I'll post a screenshot when I've got it, for completeness sake.

The Mystery Date fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Dec 14, 2011

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master

The Mystery Date posted:

Yeah I've tried 5ths (and 13ths and -4ths) and different octaves, but I just can't get it to sound nearly as huge or have as big of an impact as the original.

Edit: Ok, I'm really close now. The trick was just to make the low bass significantly louder than the saws 1 and 2 octaves above it. Also, white noise is key. I'll post a screenshot when I've got it, for completeness sake.
Yeah, I'm messing around in Massive right now trying to come up with something. I was about to post suggesting adding the white noise. It adds a lot to the airiness of it all.

The Mystery Date
Aug 2, 2005
STRAGHT FOOL IN A GAY POOL (MUPPETS ROCK)
This is the closest I can get for now. I feel like my higher oscillators aren't quite as tight as I'd like them to be, but it's at least a decent approximation I guess.

http://i.imgur.com/68ttC.png

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master
That's pretty close to what I had going. You also have to keep in mind that when that intro is going there are what sounds to me like 3 separate synth layers going on. The hive mind is telling me that Sammy used eMagic ES2 on that particular track which comes free with Logic Studio so now I'm messing around with that to see how close I can match it.

I drank way too much coffee today and have absolutely zero to do. drat you soft synths. You're a black hole.

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The Mystery Date
Aug 2, 2005
STRAGHT FOOL IN A GAY POOL (MUPPETS ROCK)

Hogscraper posted:

That's pretty close to what I had going.
...
I drank way too much coffee today and have absolutely zero to do. drat you soft synths. You're a black hole.

Haha, sorry to get you started. I also tried making a separate track for the bass and putting in a saw an octave above at a pretty low level, but there wasn't much improvement. I'd be interested to see what you get in ES2, although I don't use a mac.

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