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Renaissance Robot posted:It's semantic dickery, 'universe' as I recall Thanks so much for posting this cause I was about to do a much longer post explaining it and I couldn't think of a way to not make it sound really stuOOOOH update ActionZero fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Plom Bar posted:Whaaat? No. Not even a little. Your friend is so far off base, he can't even see the base from where he is. Where's the base? Shrug! That quote sounded the same-ish.
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Nov 22, 2011 00:58
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Renaissance Robot posted:But that's total bullshit because 'atom' means indivisible unit and we're still all up to our loving necks in quarks. drat it, GPI!
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Nov 22, 2011 00:59
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Renaissance Robot posted:It's semantic dickery, 'universe' as I recall
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Nov 22, 2011 01:15
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creationist believer posted:Shrug! That quote sounded the same-ish. The thing is that Tobias is hilariously lacking in self-awareness. That doesn't come through very well in that Youtube you posted, but the whole point is that he says all these things without realizing how gay they sound. If there's one thing that Bro isn't, it's lacking in self-awareness.
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Nov 22, 2011 01:15
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Plom Bar posted:The thing is that Tobias is hilariously lacking in self-awareness. That doesn't come through very well in that Youtube you posted, but the whole point is that he says all these things without realizing how gay they sound. If there's one thing that Bro isn't, it's lacking in self-awareness.
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Nov 22, 2011 01:24
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A Bloody Crowbar posted:This is what I meant. I'm fully aware the concept is not unheard of but this is how I was always taught to use the word 'universe' - perhaps incorrectly as pointed out! Not really incorrect as such, but at this point the word has grown to refer to only the sum of all things within a given set of dimensions of time and space, the idea being that there's nothing really stopping you from having another set of time and space dimensions 'somewhere else' that are disconnected from ours. Alternatively, think about what the word 'world' means, and how it is applied in fiction. 'The World' is another way of saying Everything (to various degrees), but 'world' is often used as a stand-in for 'planet'. We also used to think our planet was the only one like it or the only one worth considering, the only World, if you get where I'm going with this. e/ vv Yeah pretty much, but I'm trying to be less of a cock unless it's absolutely necessary. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Nov 22, 2011 01:35
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seriouschat about cosmic pedantry itt
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Nov 22, 2011 01:41
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Summary: Languages evolve, English faster than most. 
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Nov 22, 2011 01:43
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Nov 22, 2011 01:56
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MrBims posted:Have any of you ever been in a fraternity, a military, or just been friends with someone who acts and talks like Dave in real life? Not a day goes by that I don't hear gay innuendo, even from homophobic infantry NCOs from the dirty south with NOBAMA stickers on their red Ford F150. Has nothing to do with their sexuality. Hussie knows how real people talk, and that has been one of the greatest strengths of Homestuck's dialogue. My boyfriend and his best friend cannot, to my knowledge, have a conversation that doesn't involve huge amounts of homosexual innuendo. It's ridiculous You'd think that Jake would have figured out some sort of Turing test to figure out if Bro's autoresponder is on, and start every conversation with that. Of course, that might lead to Bro improving his conversation algorithms, and eventually a true AI.
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Nov 22, 2011 02:12
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SynthOrange posted:
Maybe it'll push out that loving slipshine ad with the duck faced woman in overalls and G'drat, I'm sick of seeing that one.
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Nov 22, 2011 02:25
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Zorak posted:No? From a purely scientific standpoint there's no reason there can't be more than one universe. It's even possible we can detect the effects of external structures outside our universe affecting our own (possibly other universes). I don't think time travel in the Homestuck universe, specifically, is that unusual. Wasn't it created from basically the center with all the other events filled in with points that have a single static possibility if they're gonna stay in the timeline? So basically it was built with "time travel" in mind? I really don't think "time" as it is in Homestuck is anything like how time actually is (it seems more like it's just a glorified distance measurement in Homestuck), much like how their physics are really weird in general because they can apparently put things into small cards and remove them at will. To be honest, the time thing would really annoy me if Homestuck was trying to pretend it has the same physics as the real world.
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SynthOrange posted:
At least it a.) displays a basic understanding of the site it's being displayed on and b.) isn't another add for SuperHappy's Porn Emporium.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:04
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SynthOrange posted:
My new fave ad banner is this.  Just three badly drawn faces in close up. No explanation. No compelling reason to click a link. Just some lumpy sleepy-eyed doodles.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:19
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I think Bro is basically the same Bro from the kids' universe - he's playing irony on such a high level that we can no longer tell if he's being serious or ironic, truly transcendental irony. He constantly tests his friends (as he previously tested Dave) and, in his own way, asserts superiority over them. You can really tell how Dave felt he was stuck in his Bro's shadow if he acted like this. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the reset-Dave is considered insufficiently cool and ironic for reset Bro, looking down on reset-Dave rather than looking up. I'm hoping Dave shows up and slaps his poo poo around (probably verbally) to demonstrate character growth in how he's not going to take his Bro's poo poo and stand around in his shadow any more (symbolically, since this isn't the same Bro). It'd be neat to see, and could cut both ways if this Bro's built up as an inscrutable irony-ninja and someone who knows him better than he knows himself shows up to pierce the veil. Of course, that'd require Bro to keep getting the upper hand in his exchanges with others for a while, to build him up for Dave to knock down, but that could work. It'd also be an interesting way to differentiate this Bro from the pre-reset Guardian Bro, since Dave would remember his bro's sacrifice and be able to drop some sharp "You're not him" remarks. Just one possibility, of course. We don't have much to go on yet.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:22
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Dolash posted:I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the reset-Dave is considered insufficiently cool and ironic for reset Bro, looking down on reset-Dave rather than looking up. I don't think it's possible to look down on the creator of Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff: THE MOIVE.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:28
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Maybe reset-Bro is an elusive freaky intellectual machinist as a response to being raised by the man responsible for such eloquent statements like "THE SOCK RUSE WAS A........... DISTACTION"
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Nov 22, 2011 03:35
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So the scratch's purpose is to reset the universe so that more ideal conditions are met, that is, to nurture the players so that they are better prepared to win the game. All the new characters have not-laptop chat devices. The entire problem with the Kids' session was that they spent hours dicking around trying to make laptop-headgear and loving up. That's why they lost.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:36
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Also their inventory set-ups are not complete bullshit. Well Jake's is like 1/3 bullshit but that's largely his own loving fault.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:38
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Sockser posted:The entire problem with the Kids' session was that they spent hours dicking around trying to make laptop-headgear and loving up. That's why they lost. Of course. If John had entered the first gate sooner he could've found the car and claimed the box before AR showed up.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:41
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Sockser posted:The entire problem with the Kids' session was that they spent hours dicking around trying to make laptop-headgear and loving up. That's why they lost. If the troll's session was any indication, pointless relationship bullshit is a necessary part of any 'successful' session, so they set the humans to stew in their own hormones for another two and a half years this time around. It would amuse me if the trolls and the reset guardians and just about everyone but the original kids were consumed with relationship shenanigans and the original kids remained firmly in "mocking the shipping diagram" territory.
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All this talk of irony and ponies... reminds me of an actual conversation I had with an old friend from college I met up with a few months ago... who turned out to be a My Little Pony fan. Word for word: Him: At least I have the decency to watch the show ironically. Me: No you don't. Him. ... No I don't. Basically, we know Bro isn't sincere (the twist some were hoping for), and he is in fact as much a fan of irony as Dave supposed him to be... but that doesn't stop that from being a shallow facade for his truly creepy interests. He could still be an utterly obsessive pony fan, always under the guise of irony... but with the suspicious stink of sincerity.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:43
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So this means that Bros shades were alive in the kids universe. And Jack killed them.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:46
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Sockser posted:The entire problem with the Kids' session was that they spent hours dicking around trying to make laptop-headgear and loving up. That's why they lost. gently caress it. Worth it for the Cosbytop and earmuffs.
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Nov 22, 2011 03:57
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Mr. Pumroy posted:gently caress it. Worth it for the Cosbytop and lunchmuffs 
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Nov 22, 2011 04:39
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As somebody who has spent many years loving around with IRC bots, I am so incredibly amused by Bro's auto-responder. And impressed with how "smart" it apparently is. Also screaming Jake snapping into his skulltop is loving hilarious for some reason.
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Zorak posted:No? From a purely scientific standpoint there's no reason there can't be more than one universe. It's even possible we can detect the effects of external structures outside our universe affecting our own (possibly other universes). Renaissance Robot posted:It's semantic dickery, 'universe' as I recall A Bloody Crowbar posted:This is what I meant. I'm fully aware the concept is not unheard of but this is how I was always taught to use the word 'universe' - perhaps incorrectly as pointed out!  (a little outdated now but oh well) or to make things easier: quote:TG: the thing with [time travel/ alternate universes/ beta timelines] is
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Cyrai posted:That's how I read it as well. kidBro is just so good at computers that his autoresponder actually pretty much sounds just like him. I can see the interpretation that he switched Jake off, though, but kidBro's side of the conversation was generally pretty realistic even after we learned for sure it was the autoresponder The conversation has clearly ben all-autoresponder, all-the-time
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Nov 22, 2011 06:21
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Nov 22, 2011 06:24
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Holy crap! http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002140 Credit goes to http://fkngenuine.tumblr.com/ for the discovery. Edit: Holy crap! I have the worst timing.
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Nov 22, 2011 06:24
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That Brobot looks awfully famil--OH SNAP THAT'S loving AWESOME
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Nov 22, 2011 06:24
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Oh poo poo, Sawtooth and Squarewave actually playing a role in an MSPaint Adventure! This is all I've ever wanted. 
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Nov 22, 2011 06:28
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Okay, to hell with Bro. Nobody can care about Bro anymore. Bro's auto-responder has taken up all available care.
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Nov 22, 2011 06:30
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I like the idea that Bro has created at least two technological devices to molest Jake.
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Nov 22, 2011 06:32
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I'm sure Supercar Gautier will be very enthused to see this update.
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Nov 22, 2011 06:32
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We have reached peak callback. This is the most callback we can possibly get.
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DrakePegasus posted:Holy crap! http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002140 What am I missing here? Are you pointing out?
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Bro's glasses are totally getting prototyped. Cant wait for every badguy to have Broshades.
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Regy Rusty posted:What am I missing here? Are you pointing out? I think it might be a very, very early cameo from ____ Lalonde I also think I'm possibly wrong and missed the point.
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