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Star War Sex Parrot posted:How does that change anything right now? He can't buy a phone from Sprint right now that has ICS. And we all know how terrible of an idea it is to buy a phone on the promise of an Android update. Yes this. Also....I know rooting phones isn't hard, but I just don't want to bother with it anymore. I actually like what I see from Apple how they have a pretty set release schedule and you can get the update the day/week of the announcement. Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Honestly my device is already running a CM7 ICS theme with Launcher Pro Plus and Roboto font. Other than that there's nothing I'm clamoring for that I must have in ICS. I care more about ICS for my hacked tablets running Gingerbread so I can finally run some tablet optimized apps. The faster browser/JS in ICS is nice, but I run Opera Mobile anyways. And for multi tasking switching there's great 3rd party apps that I actually prefer. I've been running CM7 for about a year on my EVO, it's pretty much perfect. Visual Voice Mail, 3G/4G tethering, GPS locks within 5 seconds, Percentage Battery Bar, Very Speedy, OpenVPN Client, just to name a few things. Once you're happy with a particular setup there's actually very little reason to update to a new ROM. I like the fact with a rooted Android device updates happen on your schedule and if you're the type that likes to try a new ROM every week (I don't, I update very rarely, why fix something when it's not broken) things like Titanium backup and ClockWork Recovery make backing up/restoring your apps/settings a breeze. With a jailbroken iPhone it's a constant cat and mouse game as every little forced update breaks the jailbreak. I'm also spoiled by the bigger screen available on some Android devices, whenever I have to use an iPhone screen my fingers feel cramped. Another advantage of an Android device is the replaceable battery and expandable microSDHC storage. Sometimes I'm in long trip it's nice to be able to pop in a new battery when I start running low. New Android devices are even compatible with 64GB microSDXC cards. For suggestions on Apps/Games we have threads for both. Here's an HTML file with links to some Android Games/Apps I found interesting (no emulators in the list but there's crapload of those too, I can run a n64 emulator pretty much full speed and play with a PS3 joystick via BlueTooth): http://www.filedropper.com/androidbookmarks112111 scarymonkey fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Mahoning posted:I still have the original EVO that I got 2 weeks before launch, I'm really getting sick of it. How many people have gone from Android in general or the EVO specifically to an iPhone 4S? I went from the EVO (Hero before that) to the iPhone 4S. I am a Android fan who loves rooting and flashing. On my family plan I still have my EVO, a EVO Shift, Epic, and the EVO 3D. You want my verdict? Can I be honest without this turning into a flame war? Because I find iOS and the iPhone 4S to be superior in almost every way. iOS feels so polished in comparison to Android. It is hard to explain, but the whole eco-system of iOS is just better. Everything just flows so much better. I am open minded, and will be when I make a decision next year on a new phone. Still the early leader is for me to stay on the iPhone. Every time I use the EVO 3D I realize how much I don't miss most of Android. Mahoning posted:Yes this. If you are not rooting it should be an easy decision. Vykk.Draygo posted:3.5" screen is about the only downside that I can think of, but people rarely complain about it so I doubht it's much of a problem. My own personal reasons for not getting an iPhone, aside from screen size, is the automation stuff I can do with Android. I can have WiFi turn on when I get home, have notifications shut up at night, have my media volume silent unless headphones are plugged in, have the screen brightness increase and the lockscreen disable when plugged in, and other such things. I don't know if this stuff is possible on iOS but I don't think I've heard about it. I agree the screen size and one of the reason I almost didn't get a iPhone. That said after using the iPhone for over a month I don't even notice it. I actually think many Android phones have went too big. I think the perfect screen size might be the Nexus S with its 4 inch screen. You do make some good points, and gently caress I miss using MIUI and it's 100 lockscreens. But hell I still got my first jailbreak coming once I get bored with my iPhone with way it is now. Also the quality of iOS apps over Android apps is amazing. It is like I never had apps before. Edit: This is really stupid I just realized. There is no way to discuss which is better without sounding like a fanboy (it is like talking about the PS3 vs 360). All I have to say is I love Android and I really love the iPhone also. If you can play with both, and find what you like. Hell get an iPhone for a week or so, and return if you don't like it. But don't just rely on what other people tell you. Too many people are trying to justify their purchases, because it is human nature. Good chance my own view is slighted because I am subconsciously trying to justify buying an iPhone 4S. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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nate fisher posted:Good chance my own view is slighted because I am subconsciously trying to justify buying an iPhone 4S. Why would you need to justify buying the best phone?
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nate fisher posted:Because I find iOS and the iPhone 4S to be superior in almost every way. That's the one thing I can think of that Android has over iOS and I wish there was an equivalent as I keep recommending iPhones to folks.
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Sprint's Everything Data plans include use of Sprint Navigation, which is just a skinned version of TeleNav. It's in the App Store. I haven't used a Sprint iPhone yet, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't preinstalled.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:How does that change anything right now? He can't buy a phone from Sprint right now that has ICS. And we all know how terrible of an idea it is to buy a phone on the promise of an Android update. Nexus S will get ice cream sandwich fairly quickly. And that phone runs smoother than most phones with twice the hardware. I'm certainly an android user, for me I just find iOS boring. Siri gets dull after about 2 days, and it's a grid of apps. Apple does certainly win in games and media, but for productivity I'm quite happy with android (although ironically I'm also doing fairly well with windows phone). In the end its preference. My main argument against apple stuff is the cost of the Eco system and how boring it is. And in terms if "planned updates" with the iPhone, I see it as a double edge sword. They update their products, but they with hold software so you buy up (currently siri). I got burned with an ipod touch I got from apple, and personally their update schedule certainly isn't as bad as android, but apple purposefully withholds stuff from current models, no doubt. What's the difference then? goku chewbacca posted:Sprint's Everything Data plans include use of Sprint Navigation, which is just a skinned version of TeleNav. It's in the App Store. I haven't used a Sprint iPhone yet, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't preinstalled. Sprint nav is a no go with the iPhone. Just fyi. Oh, content. Here are sprints black Friday specials: Nexus S: free ($50 mail in rebate) Replenish: same as nexus. EVO 3D: $99 HTC EVO view: $249 (scribe $50). Cue laugh track here. And technically the playbook, which is just a joke to me. Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Mahoning posted:
Well this isn't exactly the same as going from the original evo to an iPhone but going from the evo 4G to the evo shift was awful. I missed the 4.3" screen a lot more than I thought I would. Still, I think that screen size (and availability of SAMOLED+ screens) is one of the biggest losses of going to the iPhone. Also, looking forward to the next couple of months I can't help but feel that ICS is just way ahead of iOS.
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I'm moving to an area that has no Sprint coverage at all. Everything (voice, data) is roaming on Verizon at the house and immediate surroundings. Do they still end your service if 50% of your usage is roaming for 2 consecutive months? Also, we have 4 lines and one of them won't be roaming at all as it's being used in a completely different state. Is that line going to be terminated if the other lines are? It's not the primary line so I'm assuming it would be.
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So, the Galaxy S™ ll, Epic™ 4G Touch.... Its made by Samsung so what is currently broken on it? Is there any reasonable expectation of those broken things getting fixed? Am I about to get burned by buying one of these? Unrelated: Is there any sort of speakerdock made for any phone other than the iPhone? I really like the idea of one but I'm not sure I want an iPhone over an Android device.
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GEMorris posted:So, the Galaxy S™ ll, Epic™ 4G Touch.... Its made by Samsung so what is currently broken on it? Is there any reasonable expectation of those broken things getting fixed? Am I about to get burned by buying one of these? It's actually been relatively issue-free, from what I've heard/experienced.
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GEMorris posted:So, the Galaxy S™ ll, Epic™ 4G Touch.... Its made by Samsung so what is currently broken on it? Is there any reasonable expectation of those broken things getting fixed? Am I about to get burned by buying one of these? Radio issues mostly I believe. As for the dock, http://www.amazon.com/Philips-AS111...DFD3Q2R3FGS6ZFQ Looks kind of.. cheap. Maybe not the word I'm looking for, but floating phone is kinda 
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ddogflex posted:There is also the whole, A PHONE IS loving USELESS WITHOUT RADIOS thing. But y'know, whatever. I honestly thought the guy was being sarcastic? I hope? So, yes, the phone is useless without a radio, but it's just as useless with a working radio if that radio can't get reception.
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tomguycot posted:Well this isn't exactly the same as going from the original evo to an iPhone but going from the evo 4G to the evo shift was awful. I missed the 4.3" screen a lot more than I thought I would. Still, I think that screen size (and availability of SAMOLED+ screens) is one of the biggest losses of going to the iPhone. Well when you factor in the fact that I want a smaller phone overall anyways, with a good camera, and one that is useful-out-of-the-box, I think my choice is pretty clear. I kind of had my mind made up anyways, but I wanted to see if there was gonna be anyone that would tell me "NOOOOOOO dude, you'll spend the next month doing this when you should be doing this." I never use Google Navigation because I know how to read a map and pulling up directions on Google Maps or whatever other map program is good enough for me. As long as there is no glaring reason for me not to get it, I'm gonna pull the trigger soon. Now just to decide whether to get an iPhone 4 or 4S. Since I'm getting $90 for my EVO, I could spend $10 for an IPhone 4 which is awesome since I'm poor as gently caress. Or I could wait a few weeks and spring $110 to get the 4S once I get the cash. The only reason I'm hesitant to do that is a) I'm worried the buyback price for the EVO will drop and b) the iPhone 4S is in shorter supply and I could risk not getting it if I wait til closer to Christmas. Ugh.
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eric posted:Why would you need to justify buying the best phone? While I agree it is the best phone, I refer being that blunt because I am still in the honeymoon period with my phone. Lets see what happens when I get the 7 month itch. ExcessBLarg! posted:Have you found a (free) replacement for Google Navigation? I know the iOS MapQuest does turn-by-turn, but as far as I can tell it's overhead view only. To be honest I haven't used navigation since going to the iPhone. I live in a small city (Knoxville, TN) so anytime I don't know where a place is I get Siri to look it up on a map. Once I see where it is on the map I am fine. I guess I need to look into that before I go out of town. Duckman2008 posted:I'm certainly an android user, for me I just find iOS boring. Siri gets dull after about 2 days, and it's a grid of apps. Apple does certainly win in games and media, but for productivity I'm quite happy with android (although ironically I'm also doing fairly well with windows phone). I use Siri daily. Everything from texting to setting reminders to getting Tom Cruise's age the other day (don't ask). The voice recognition is the best I used (yes even better than Google's). Yes Siri might not be making you laugh after the first week (how times can you ask her to go out with you?), but that is not the purpose. It is a very useful feature that I don't want to be without now. I am not sure how I can explain this. iOS, the apps, media, etc. all just seem to flow as one system. It is just smooth that Android just seems clunky to me now. It is like with Android it was chaos, but now with the iPhone it is pure zen. God impossible to explain. I now understand what makes a integrated system so good.
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Duckman2008 posted:I'm certainly an android user, for me I just find iOS boring. Siri gets dull after about 2 days, and it's a grid of apps. Apple does certainly win in games and media, but for productivity I'm quite happy with android (although ironically I'm also doing fairly well with windows phone). Yeah that's a good analogy actually. If the time you spend with computers is time spent building, fixing, and tinkering with their hardware and operating system, then Android is probably a good choice for you. On the other hand if the time you spend with computers is time spent in applications and games and you mostly ignore the hardware and operating system, iOS is the better choice for you.
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Anyone who supports ios in the enterprise probably has mixed feelings about it too, there are a few bugs in activesync that have been around for a while that Apple should really fix (items getting stuck in outbox that cannot be cleared, the fix is to put the phone in airplane mode, send another email and then turn airplane mode off. When it reconnects both messages will send) Before IOS5 I think Android was actually a better platform (notifications!), they seem to be roughly at parity now though. Both app stores have turned into a non-functional zoo. Both have good web browsers and any decent application will be available on both. I could use either and not really care. sanchez fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Just a final update on how good my 3D's battery life has been on Warm 2.3 rls 1 (and then I'll shut up about it): I finally just put it on the charger for the first time since flashing. Total time off charger (with normal-to-heavy usage) 1 day 4 hours. Probably could have gone a bit longer, but I've been addicted to Tiny Tower since I woke up this morning. Just about doubled my battery life from flashing a rom, I don't know how it's even possible - especially since I'm still on the stock kernel.
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Leathal posted:I've been addicted to Tiny Tower since I woke up this morning.
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Leathal posted:Just a final update on how good my 3D's battery life has been on Warm 2.3 rls 1 (and then I'll shut up about it): It's weird... I'm on the same rom and my battery barely lasts until 5pm. It randomly goes back to full brightness and I set it back to automatic brightness. I think I need to wipe and reflash or something.
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fuzzi posted:It's weird... I'm on the same rom and my battery barely lasts until 5pm. It randomly goes back to full brightness and I set it back to automatic brightness. I think I need to wipe and reflash or something. I did a full wipe (data/dalvik/cache) with the flashable zip posted in the Warm thread's OP before I flashed rls 1. Probably worth doing, especially since I doubt I'm going to move to another rom before CM7 nightlies come along.
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GEMorris posted:So, the Galaxy S™ ll, Epic™ 4G Touch.... Its made by Samsung so what is currently broken on it? Is there any reasonable expectation of those broken things getting fixed? Am I about to get burned by buying one of these?
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GEMorris posted:So, the Galaxy S™ ll, Epic™ 4G Touch.... Its made by Samsung so what is currently broken on it? GEMorris posted:Is there any reasonable expectation of those broken things getting fixed? Am I about to get burned by buying one of these? As an example, two of the past three updates has broken poo poo on the Epic. The first broke the camcorder, officially fixed a month later. The most recent update breaks the GPS again, which now performs the worst it has ever had for some folks. In both instances there were community fixes provided within a few days but that involves phone hacking to use them. In other words, there's something terribly broken in the QA testing between Samsung and Sprint. My advice, as it is with other SGSII models, is that it's pretty darn good as long as you're happy with how it performs today. Don't expect timely updates (e.g., to ICS), and don't expect any update to fix poo poo or, frankly, even retain feature parity with the current build. But if, in the worst case, you're OK running the current GB build until you pick up a new phone then it's actually pretty darn good.
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Thanks for the reply but that's not really reassuring me much. I'm currently on a Touch Pro 2 and I'm just fed up with having to gently caress with things just to get basic functions to work. I'll probably just buy an iPhone.
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GEMorris posted:Thanks for the reply but that's not really reassuring me much. I'm currently on a Touch Pro 2 and I'm just fed up with having to gently caress with things just to get basic functions to work. Keep in mind that Android phones work great straight out of the box. They are not like Windows Mobile 6.x phones that you had to hack to make them worth wild. But as much as I hate Apple and as much as I like Android, I will admit that the Android UI leaves a little to be desired in the polish and usability departments. iPhones are very nice aesthetically in the UI. But they offer very little in the way of customization, where as Android is very customization. So it's a trade off.
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What's the going rate for a Sprint iPhone 4? Someone want to trade me his iPhone 4 for my HTC Evo, battery, car dock, and $75. Also, does the Sprint iPhone have any identifying marks? I guess the model and ESN are buried in the settings menu? Is the Sprint iPhone jailbroken, yet?
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goku chewbacca posted:Also, does the Sprint iPhone have any identifying marks? I guess the model and ESN are buried in the settings menu? 8GB of storage is not a lot for a multimedia smartphone these days. I wouldn't do it.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:No. Yes. No. Thanks for pointing out the storage limitations of the 4. But it's my fiance's Evo with the original 8gb microSD she hasn't come close to filling. She's in healthcare and has been working 12-16 hours shifts lately, and the Evo battery life isn't cutting it.
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The Sprint iPhone 4 (not the 4S) is definitely jailbroken, considering I just jailbroke my girlfriend's new one a few days ago. It's a tethered jailbreak, but it's still a jailbreak.
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Is the story with the newest Windows OS offering on Sprint still that the OS is good and the phone is bad?
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goku chewbacca posted:What's the going rate for a Sprint iPhone 4? Someone want to trade me his iPhone 4 for my HTC Evo, battery, car dock, and $75. I would do that trade and worst case the sprint iPhone 4 would go for at least $400 on eBay. PerniciousKnid posted:Is the story with the newest Windows OS offering on Sprint still that the OS is good and the phone is bad? You mean the arrive? I use the arrive actually, great phone. I don't think I could recommend it as the ONLY phone one uses, as windows still lacks in a few areas, but I like it, especially as a work phone. I wouldn't hedge bets on many windows phones hitting sprint.
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Duckman2008 posted:I would do that trade and worst case the sprint iPhone 4 would go for at least $400 on eBay. Glad to hear there's a tethered jailbreak for the 4. A must have for occasionally wifi tethering. Is Siri working, yet? Only worry is that it will drop the Sprint insurance, and my fiance is a klutz. How long after purchase can you buy applecare? EDIT: Boricua con la iPhone posted:There is 3 months free apple care Si u still have two u can purchase extended apple care and the phone have ensures thru sprint I pay monthly I'll probably go with a Square Trade warranty. There's no Apple Genius Bar near me, anyway. goku chewbacca fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Nov 23, 2011 |
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Mahoning posted:Now just to decide whether to get an iPhone 4 or 4S. Since I'm getting $90 for my EVO, I could spend $10 for an IPhone 4 which is awesome since I'm poor as gently caress. Or I could wait a few weeks and spring $110 to get the 4S once I get the cash. The only reason I'm hesitant to do that is a) I'm worried the buyback price for the EVO will drop and b) the iPhone 4S is in shorter supply and I could risk not getting it if I wait til closer to Christmas. If it were me, I'd hold off for the 4S. Yeah, it's more money now...but that also means you'll have better resale value later.
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goku chewbacca posted:That's encouraging. I thought it was too good to be true, by at least $125 in my favor. She sounds young and with a tenuous grasp of the English language, in general. I think she's planning on flashing my Evo to a discount carrier, which probably isn't possible with the iPhone. Sounds like one of my former cricket customers. Apple care is now available until Christmas fyi. I think that's all or at or St most iPhones.
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How far back did the Epic 4g get a custom gingerbread ROM? Kind of considering picking up an Epic 4g Touch but want to have a gauge on how fast the dev community picks up the slack for Samsung. Otherwise, I guess I'll try to find a used Nexus S or something.
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Mahoning posted:I never use Google Navigation because I know how to read a map and pulling up directions on Google Maps or whatever other map program is good enough for me. What? What does knowing how to read a map have to do with using turn by turn directions? Do you understand that there is a safety issue in having your face buried in a map while driving? CRUISECONTROL posted:How far back did the Epic 4g get a custom gingerbread ROM? Kind of considering picking up an Epic 4g Touch but want to have a gauge on how fast the dev community picks up the slack for Samsung. Otherwise, I guess I'll try to find a used Nexus S or something. Pretty far back, but the stock ROM for the Touch/GS2 is pretty good. Keep in mind that he people that aren't having LOS issues aren't making threads about it on XDA. Kynetx fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Nov 23, 2011 |
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Kynetx posted:Pretty far back, but the stock ROM for the Touch/GS2 is pretty good. Keep in mind that he people that aren't having LOS issues aren't making threads about it on XDA. I mostly just want ICS sooner than like a year from now. It doesn't look like the Epic or Touch have CM either, which kind of sucks.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Gotta second this. The phone has really good battery life - put it in airplane mode and it will last a couple of days.  Yes, yes it does.
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Kynetx posted:What? Thanks captain safety man. I can look at a map before I leave and know where I'm going with little to no help. Sometimes I pull the map back up at a stoplight.  Mahoning fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Nov 23, 2011 |
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