MSPaint Adventures - Homestuck Edition, the Final Acts

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Elysiume: Aug 13, 2009; Alone, she fights.

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Can someone explain to me why people like homestuck? every time I've tried to read this I came away thinking

Why the gently caress would I want to read chatlogs ever?

These pixel animations are somewhat neat, the art style seems alright

What the gently caress is with everyone shipping these characters??

I have no loving clue what's going on with anything, the plot seems inane.

Help?

Because they are written entertainingly.
This isn't a grievance so okay then.
Yeah this happens in pretty much every fandom, and not at all in this thread so...
Well early on the plot is really simple, how far did you get?

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:09

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Ape Has Killed Ape: Sep 15, 2005

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Can someone explain to me why people like homestuck? every time I've tried to read this I came away thinking

Why the gently caress would I want to read chatlogs ever?

These pixel animations are somewhat neat, the art style seems alright

What the gently caress is with everyone shipping these characters??

I have no loving clue what's going on with anything, the plot seems inane.

Help?

The chatlogs are pretty funny, think of them less as chatlogs and more of the characters having a conversation. Just sit down and force yourself to read a few of them. But yah, they do get pretty long, I don't blame you for seeing them and going "nope not reading that". It's one of the biggest hurdles of this comic.

Also you should avoid the fanbase like leprosy. They are all awful. And some of the plot can be confusing, especially when you get into the time travel stuff, which can be summed up in this page.

Or it may turn out that you simply don't like the comic. That's OK too, everyone has different tastes.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:10

tinaun: Jun 9, 2011; tell me...

Waffnuffly posted:

People read Homestuck because it's long, complex, has great characters and character interactions, and has cool art and flashes and amazing music. The story is called Homestuck because the characters literally never leave their houses. At all. I mean not ever.

We start out with John in his room. He talks to his friends via chatlogs, because none of the characters in this story speak a single word. They literally talk solely through their computers in their homes (don't worry, we DO get to see out their windows sometimes).

Things start to happen. We meet other characters, see their houses, and get some of their personality. Rose and Dave, for instance. They live in totally different places, so even if they did leave home, they would never be able to reach each other in person in any practical way. So chat it is.

Conflict stirs. John has to go downstairs to get a game, but his dad is baking things. Baking. Isn't this enough for you? There's a loving guy cooking stuff in the god damned story, you should be strapped to your loving chair going "more more more" already. But it gets better. John fights his dad in this weird sort of way, then gets the game and goes back upstairs. Because, you know, never leaves the house.

The story has thousands of pages, tens of thousands of words, and all of it takes place from the homes of kids. That's basically why people read Homestuck; it simulates real life almost 100%.

This is the most accurate depiction of Homestuck that I have ever seen. Captures everything in the comic perfectly.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:16

Admiral Lasers: Dec 10, 2000

The chatlogs really are great, and are probably the best part of the whole thing. The flash animations are fun, sure, but I certainly look forward to seeing more of the characters interacting. They're a joy to read and I get really excited when I see a pesterlog.

I have another friend that refuses to read more pesterlogs and I just don't understand why. Is it because chatlogs aren't usually fun to read in the non-fictional world? That was my reaction at first, I definitely skipped over a few of the early ones. But after reading some I got hopelessly hooked and started over to greedily snatch up the bits i'd missed!

Admiral Lasers fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Dec 2, 2011

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:16

GreenBuckanneer: Sep 15, 2007

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

The chatlogs are pretty funny, think of them less as chatlogs and more of the characters having a conversation. Just sit down and force yourself to read a few of them. But yah, they do get pretty long, I don't blame you for seeing them and going "nope not reading that". It's one of the biggest hurdles of this comic.

Also you should avoid the fanbase like leprosy. They are all awful. And some of the plot can be confusing, especially when you get into the time travel stuff, which can be summed up in this page.

Or it may turn out that you simply don't like the comic. That's OK too, everyone has different tastes.

Thanks for the level-headed reply. The fans I've seen do seem pretty insane which tends to turn me off from everything, legitimate or not.

Though to be honest yeah that's my reaction when I see chatlogs. Too much experience with goon chatlogs :v:

and personal time spent on IRC lead me to go "huh, tl;dr. I'd rather this conversation was drawn, as is what I would kind of expect from a ~~web~~comic"

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:18

Dark Grapefruit: Jun 3, 2006; All cans are welcome and equal in your city, regardless of can content, and whether empty or full.

Yeah, I can see not liking the chatlogs because of the typing quirks, but otherwise it's basically just word balloons taken off the panel and placed underneath instead.

GreenBuckanneer posted:

"huh, tl;dr. I'd rather this conversation was drawn, as is what I would kind of expect from a ~~web~~comic"

It should be noted that basically the entire point of Homestuck is to be what you don't expect from a webcomic.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:28

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GreenBuckanneer posted:

Though to be honest yeah that's my reaction when I see chatlogs. Too much experience with goon chatlogs and personal time spent on IRC lead me to go "huh, tl;dr. I'd rather this conversation was drawn, as is what I would kind of expect from a ~~web~~comic"

It's definitely weird and different and takes a lot of getting used to, so you're not alone on that count. It's basically a giant running experiment and there are a lot of unusual and sometimes quite innovative ways of presenting content to the reader--most of the cooler ones admittedly buried much later in the story--and I think it's interesting on that count alone even disregarding the story (I do like the story and characters too, but they took a little while to start growing on me for their own sake.)

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:29

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Though to be honest yeah that's my reaction when I see chatlogs. Too much experience with goon chatlogs and personal time spent on IRC lead me to go "huh, tl;dr. I'd rather this conversation was drawn, as is what I would kind of expect from a ~~web~~comic"

A lot of people react like that. And honestly the chatlogs are at their worst when Act 5-1 rolls around, but if you can muddle through it, particularly the more insufferable of the typing quirks, I think you'll find that the dialogue is pretty well-written.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:35

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

Mr. Pumroy posted:

A lot of people react like that. And honestly the chatlogs are at their worst when Act 5-1 rolls around, but if you can muddle through it, particularly the more insufferable of the typing quirks, I think you'll find that the dialogue is pretty well-written.

While some of the typing quirks are pretty annoying, they do actually give you an idea of how the characters sound.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 03:47

Level Slide: Jan 4, 2011

Alright, ~~headcanon~~ personal preference time. Whose voice do you hear given a specific character's dialog?

Me? I hear Doc Scratch speaking like Hades (Disney) and John sounding like this.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:00

Yeah Man: Oct 9, 2011; And if you had, you know, a huge killer robot at your command, yeah, that would just clutter things up; and a lesser person might want that kind of overwhelming force on their side, but you know - where's the challenge in that?

Honestly, I'd say the biggest flaw in Homestuck is that Andrew Hussie sometimes doesn't know how to end plot threads satisfyingly or how prevent mood whiplash from killing all dramatic tension.

Act 5 Part 2 was basically gigantic wasted potential that, while still ending okay, left a lot to be desired from what was built up.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:00

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Level Slide posted:

Alright, ~~headcanon~~ personal preference time. Whose voice do you hear given a specific character's dialog?

Me? I hear Doc Scratch speaking like Hades (Disney) and John sounding like this.

Gilbert Gottfried as Terezi

GILBERT GOTTFRIED AS TEREZI

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:07

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1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?

Dolash posted:

Gilbert Gottfried as Terezi

GILBERT GOTTFRIED AS TEREZI

It totally works :stare:

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:12

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Level Slide posted:

Alright, ~~headcanon~~ personal preference time. Whose voice do you hear given a specific character's dialog?

Me? I hear Doc Scratch speaking like Hades (Disney) and John sounding like this.

John and Dave. There's no question here.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:16

Ammat The Ankh: Sep 7, 2010; Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

I read Doc Scratch's narration in Rod Serling's voice. Somehow it fits.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:22

Well Manicured Man: Aug 21, 2010; Well Manicured Mort

Level Slide posted:

Alright, ~~headcanon~~ personal preference time. Whose voice do you hear given a specific character's dialog?

Me? I hear Doc Scratch speaking like Hades (Disney) and John sounding like this.

Ooh, I love this game.
I always imagine Karkat with the voice of Domon from G-Gundam, and John with the voice of Finn from Adventure Time. Doc Scratch sounds like Fuhrer Bradley/Wrath from Fullmetal Alchemist. Eridan sounds like Dexter (no, the other one).

And, of course, Terezi sounds like Gilbert Gottfried.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:27

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Cleretic posted:

John and Dave. There's no question here.

Not sure about Dave, but that's more or less how I figured John sounded.

But the only true Karkat voice is the Karkat from The Baby Is You.

EDIT: Well, how about that, an unfinished sequel to The Baby Is You... :sbahj:

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Dec 2, 2011

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:32

Roger Explosion: Jan 26, 2006; THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

Also, Vriska. (And Tavros as well why the hell not).

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:44

snucks: Nov 3, 2008; Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

Roger Explosion posted:

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

this is exactly my headcanon karkat voice.

this one is perfect

snucks fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Dec 2, 2011

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:48

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Roger Explosion posted:

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

I watched every second of this.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:52

HappyKitty: Jul 11, 2005

In my mind, Karkat is an angry cockney lad.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 04:58

voting third party: Sep 5, 2006; ~

Roger Explosion posted:

Also, Vriska. (And Tavros as well why the hell not).

That channel also has the perfect Equius voice.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:05

snucks: Nov 3, 2008; Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

voting third party posted:

That channel also has the perfect Equius voice.

oh holy poo poo I've always read his stuff with Piccolo's voice, which apparently is the exact loving same as Nathan Explosion's voice

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:12

Yeah Man: Oct 9, 2011; And if you had, you know, a huge killer robot at your command, yeah, that would just clutter things up; and a lesser person might want that kind of overwhelming force on their side, but you know - where's the challenge in that?

Guys, everyone knows these are the perfect voiceovers for John, Rose and Dave.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:13

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

Roger Explosion posted:

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

This is the one true Karkat.

For some reason fan-recordings always make him sound like a thirty-year smoker or something, but this video has all the right qualities - plain, kind of reedy, but totally inexhaustible, to the point where all the angry words just kind of blend together into a giant homogeneous block of vitriol.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:15

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

voting third party posted:

That channel also has the perfect Equius voice.

The Sollux voice in the second video is great too.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:23

Yeah Man: Oct 9, 2011; And if you had, you know, a huge killer robot at your command, yeah, that would just clutter things up; and a lesser person might want that kind of overwhelming force on their side, but you know - where's the challenge in that?

JT Jag posted:

The Sollux voice in the second video is great too.

Vriska sounds like a male German.

Best fit ever.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:26

Haschel Cedricson: Jan 4, 2006; Brinkmanship

This is probably my favorite Eridan voice.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:30

readingatwork: Jan 8, 2009; Hello Fatty!; Fun Shoe

Roger Explosion posted:

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

Yes. This. Seriously give this man a job I think we have a show here.

Also Tavros is Takato from Digimon Tamers (english version) in my head.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:32

JackGeneric: Apr 23, 2008; [Witty observation]

Roger Explosion posted:

Karkat.

This is seriously perfect.

Normally, I can't stand any attempt to give Homestuck characters voices. Won't listen to any of the songs from bandcamp where the characters sing and I never agree with anyone who says "So and so totally sounds like this."

Until right loving now. LtMKilla as Karkat is a perfect goddamn fit and I love it.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:32

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Supercar Gautier posted:

Everyone wondering how Homestuck can exist in book form is going to feel a little silly when they open it up and go "Oh, right, it's mostly static images and text."

That's really more of a graphic novel, to me.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:37

HelloIAmYourHeart: Dec 29, 2008; Fallen Rib

Oxxidation posted:

This is the one true Karkat.

For some reason fan-recordings always make him sound like a thirty-year smoker or something, but this video has all the right qualities - plain, kind of reedy, but totally inexhaustible, to the point where all the angry words just kind of blend together into a giant homogeneous block of vitriol.

I think this works well because this ISN'T a fan recording. LtMKilla is a real person who really does hate Facebook.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:40

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Can someone explain to me why people like homestuck? every time I've tried to read this I came away thinking

Why the gently caress would I want to read chatlogs ever?

These pixel animations are somewhat neat, the art style seems alright

What the gently caress is with everyone shipping these characters??

I have no loving clue what's going on with anything, the plot seems inane.

Help?

Two and three are kind of irrelevant so I'm just going to address one and four.

1. Because they're well written. The characters are witty and their interactions are fun. If you don't read the chatlogs then...

4. You will definitely never have any idea what the gently caress is going on. Ever. You also just need to pay attention in general. As Hussie once said, he aspires to make MSPA to an extent a story that is also a puzzle. There is an insane amount of detail here if you bother to look for it. That's part of the fun of MSPA, if you aren't interested in seeing how all this madness fits together then you're not going to get much out of it. I enjoy the mysteries, the red herrings, and the legitimate clues and trying to decipher (sometimes correctly, sometimes not) which is which. It's a lot of fun.

All that being said I'll be the first to admit Act 1 is pretty slow starting and a little dull. It gets a lot better.

Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Dec 2, 2011

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:48

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

I think this works well because this ISN'T a fan recording. LtMKilla is a real person who really does hate Facebook.

I know, which makes this even more of a beautiful coincidence.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:58

Boneless Jogger: Apr 20, 2010

Here's a (kind of lovely) picture of Homestuck book one's cover for those curious.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 05:59

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

Boneless Jogger posted:

Here's a (kind of lovely) picture of Homestuck book one's cover for those curious.

Crack open a page and take a picture of the ~in~siiiiide.

I mean, providing that doesn't get you into trouble I guess.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 06:03

Boneless Jogger: Apr 20, 2010

Mr. Pumroy posted:

Crack open a page and take a picture of the ~in~siiiiide.

I mean, providing that doesn't get you into trouble I guess.

I wasn't the one who took that pic. :ssh:

# ? Dec 2, 2011 06:07

King of Solomon: Oct 23, 2008; S S

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Thanks for the level-headed reply. The fans I've seen do seem pretty insane which tends to turn me off from everything, legitimate or not.

Though to be honest yeah that's my reaction when I see chatlogs. Too much experience with goon chatlogs and personal time spent on IRC lead me to go "huh, tl;dr. I'd rather this conversation was drawn, as is what I would kind of expect from a ~~web~~comic"

Not sure if you're still reading people's responses, but yeah. That's basically why I don't really like to call Homestuck a comic. It's so completely different in so many different ways. You have the chatlogs, which are characters talking to each other extensively basically through MSN, you have fully-scored animated sequences, and you have interactive flashes. It's sequential media, but I really hesitate to call it a comic.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 06:25

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

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Roger Explosion posted:

Also, Vriska.

Wow, Vriska totally works as a sassy black girl.

# ? Dec 2, 2011 06:33

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Gamzee is has the Steve Blum Voice, switching between Stoned Steve Blum Voice and Menacing Steve Blum Voice. Everyone else still sounds like kids.

Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Dec 2, 2011

# ? Dec 2, 2011 06:43

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