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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Manyorcas posted:

:allears: I already liked Rin in F/SN, but goddamn did she show she don't need no magic gems or nothin' to get poo poo done.

Learned how to :smug: from her dad

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Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

http://theakiba.com/2011/11/04/fate-apocrypha-new-project-of-type-moon/

Astolfo is in. Frankenstein is in. SIEGFRIED loving WORST DESIGN GAH HOW CAN YOU BE WORSE THAN SPARTACUS is in. Karna is in instead of Vlad. It's written by the rear end in a top hat that designed half undressed loli Jack the ripper so she's probably in there to. Next thing you know they'll cut out Shakespeare and this project will be COMPLETELY salvageable.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Looks like they might be splitting the servants up half serious and half bullshit pandering, but I hope to God if they include Jack they give her some goddamn pants.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Pierson posted:

Looks like they might be splitting the servants up half serious and half bullshit pandering, but I hope to God if they include Jack they give her some goddamn pants.


Look at that. In 5 seconds on MS paint, some random guy on /a/ made that design infinitely more palatable. I'm not necessarily against girl, or even loli, Jack the Ripper, since it's not like we know anything about the real one. Just... cover her up a little Jesus Christ. Oh well, nothing offends me as much as Siegfried and Spartacus.


ANYWAY, on a far happier note, the Ilya's Castle special is out, and it's pretty hilarious.

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

Rodyle posted:

ANYWAY, on a far happier note, the Ilya's Castle special is out, and it's pretty hilarious.
Yeah. It can be found here.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Does that really say only those servants pictured are in?

bladeworksmaster
Sep 6, 2010

Ok.

AnacondaHL posted:

Learned how to :smug: from her dad


Yeah, I'm gonna need this in avatar size if anyone could manage it.

Rin is just the most adorable thing as a little kid :3:.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Endorph posted:

Does that really say only those servants pictured are in?

Well no, I'm just doubting they're going to include all the Apocrypha servants, they'll probably just pare to down to the 7, which would make it a process of elimination thing by who else shares a class with the pictured ones.

Omniphile
Apr 5, 2010

Love? Justice? Pah! I'll crush them all!
Goddamn it, why Astolfo and not Saint George? He tanks and turns people into dragons! D:

Revalis Enai
Apr 21, 2003
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-revalis_enai.gif"><br>Wait, what's my phone number again?
Fun Shoe

Rodyle posted:

http://theakiba.com/2011/11/04/fate-apocrypha-new-project-of-type-moon/

Astolfo is in. Frankenstein is in. SIEGFRIED loving WORST DESIGN GAH HOW CAN YOU BE WORSE THAN SPARTACUS is in. Karna is in instead of Vlad. It's written by the rear end in a top hat that designed half undressed loli Jack the ripper so she's probably in there to. Next thing you know they'll cut out Shakespeare and this project will be COMPLETELY salvageable.

According to one of Fate's official artbook, those designs were actually Takeuchi and Nasu's favorites.

Plus Vlad is already in Extra, so I don't see the need for another.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Revalis Enai posted:

According to one of Fate's official artbook, those designs were actually Takeuchi and Nasu's favorites.

Plus Vlad is already in Extra, so I don't see the need for another.

This Vlad is a better design than the one in Extra, but yes that's probably why.

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Rodyle posted:

This [redacted] is a better design than the one in Extra, but yes that's probably why.

fate extra spoilers

nah extra vlad which was an old dude with a spear which was way more awesome than weird white colored robot vlad.


edit: sorry ill spoiler it

Zasze fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Dec 4, 2011

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Hey, Extra only came out in english very recently, can you please use spoiler tags if you're going to start tossing servant identities around like that? I'm only on the second week. :(

Suaimhneas fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Dec 4, 2011

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer
And I haven't even bought it yet!

Honestly, everything regarding Apocrypha is hazy enough that I wouldn't bet on anything just yet. Wait till the 15th.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
ANN says it's a novel.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
How do you genderswap Frankenstein and Jack the Ripper but not Shakespeare? HOW?

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009
I feel like arturia kinda works with the mythos a little bit and adds some thought to it but all the other gender swaps just seem like there doing it for no reason.

edit: I mean like arthur and his wife having a political and possibly loveless relationship due to saber keeping up the appearance of being a man. It almost kinda can work while all the others just seem silly.

Zasze fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Dec 4, 2011

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Factor_VIII posted:

Yeah. It can be found here.

They went beyond the inpossible with Lancer's status as Kenny here.

And damnit, I want that game now.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Raenir Salazar posted:

They went beyond the inpossible with Lancer's status as Kenny here.

And damnit, I want that game now.

I am almost certain that it's just a vocal recording over a playthrough of the Ilya's Castle mini-game from Fate/HA.

InsaneZero
Feb 16, 2011

jonjonaug posted:

I am almost certain that it's just a vocal recording over a playthrough of the Ilya's Castle mini-game from Fate/HA.

I'm entirely certain that it's just as you described it. Absolutely everything in that episode was from that mini-game.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

ChronoReverse posted:

Rin and Tokiomi together was nice, Tokiomi is actually a pretty good father and teacher there.
To one daughter, at least.

Left Ventricle
Feb 24, 2006

Right aorta

Nate RFB posted:

To one daughter, at least.
drat, son. :smith:

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES

Nate RFB posted:

To one daughter, at least.

Well you see this is good for the Magus community because,

But hey, it works out in the end. In Heaven's Feel. Sorta.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
If you keep Sakura in mind, UBW Good End becomes really awkward.

Rin: I'm going to move to London with Shirou and Saber, become a super successful magus, and live a happy life! What, my sister is suffering endlessly and will never know happiness because I'm taking away her one solace in the world and leaving her to Shinji (who has been greatly traumatized) and Zouken (who no longer has any use for her but might want her babies)? Oh well! :razz:
Sakura: :smith:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
The lesson is, this is all Rin/Sakura's mother's fault.

Apocron
Dec 5, 2005
Is Heaven's feel the canon ending?

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The guy on Nico Nico who dresses up like Jason and carves statues of anime characters out of logs did Berserker.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Apocron posted:

Is Heaven's feel the canon ending?

They're all canon endings, but supposedly F/HA follows HF.

If we're going to be honest, though, the canonical ending was Fate True End, much like how Tsukihime's canonical ending should have been Arcuied True End. Main heroines get the guy at the end, even though both Nasu VNs have had the main heroines be possibly the worst people to get into a relationship.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

BlitzBlast posted:

They're all canon endings, but supposedly F/HA follows HF.

If we're going to be honest, though, the canonical ending was Fate True End, much like how Tsukihime's canonical ending should have been Arcuied True End. Main heroines get the guy at the end, even though both Nasu VNs have had the main heroines be possibly the worst people to get into a relationship.

I thought F/HA followed an untold route that combined all 3 routes somehow. But yeah, all routes are equally valid.

Hexempaler
Sep 13, 2010

I know what you're thinking.
Did he fire sixty-six shots or only sixty-five?
Question is, do I feel lucky?
Well, do ya, punk?

bladeworksmaster posted:

Yeah, I'm gonna need this in avatar size if anyone could manage it.

Rin is just the most adorable thing as a little kid :3:.


Alternatively,

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Allarion posted:

I thought F/HA followed an untold route that combined all 3 routes somehow. But yeah, all routes are equally valid.

Both right, since HA's setting is kind of weird. It's technically set in the Heaven's Feel True Ending, which is generally speaking accepted as the canon ending, though there's not really anything official that references what happens afterwards so it doesn't really matter. But because of the details of HA's setting, it mixes in bits from all three routes, much like Kagetsu Tohya did for Tsukihime.

Though that was before they added the bit at the end of Realta Nua that definitely seems to follow the Fate ending. Who knows or cares at this point.

As for Tsukihime, Nasu has actually mentioned that the Satsuki route's normal end, which wasn't even in the game, is the canon route that Melty Blood and Kagetsu Tohya are set in. And it's really just a harem route where all the major events from the other routes all coexist and status quo is kept at the end. Who knows maybe it will be in the long-awaited Tsukihime remake they're doing.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Zouken still being alive in Fate and UBW doesn't really matter very much since Rin and Waver destroy the Greater Grail later anyway, which pretty much rightly skullfucks any plans he might have had.

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Dec 5, 2011

Hikarusa
Sep 8, 2011

Rodyle posted:

-something-

That's... certainly a thing! But you might want to spoil that since it spoils the fate of one of our Fate/Zero characters.

On a related note, is there a full translated version of the Character Materials anywhere

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I figured that everyone aside from Kiritsugu and Kirei died by the end.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Apocron posted:

Is Heaven's feel the canon ending?
Aside from the fact that it's the final ending most people reach, thematically HF True addresses so many elements presented throughout the story and sees many plot threads through to their logical conclusions that I find it hard to accept any ending but HF True as the "canon" ending. It's something that's built up gradually from little pieces scattered about in Fate and UBW, such that it only works by being placed at the end of the game. In the bonus Tiger Dojo thing, Taiga says something to the effect of "Fate and UBW ask the question 'How should Emiya Shirou live?', and Heaven's Feel tries to answer that question." Of course being a Nasu work there really isn't a "canon" ending exactly since there is hardly ever an official work that is a direct sequel to a given route (a route that actually exists, mind you) in any of the games.

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

InsaneZero posted:

I'm entirely certain that it's just as you described it. Absolutely everything in that episode was from that mini-game.
The mini-game part of F/HA has been translated, though one needs to play through the VN to actually reach it.

Apocron posted:

Is Heaven's feel the canon ending?
As others have said, there isn't one. Which makes sense for the same reason Monster A vs. Monster B movies never have a clear winner; if one route was canon it would disappoint fans of the other heroines.

Since the nasuverse contains infinite parallel worlds, it makes sense that all, including the bad ends have happened.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Bakanogami posted:

The guy on Nico Nico who dresses up like Jason and carves statues of anime characters out of logs did Berserker.

I honestly hope this dude makes a good amount of money from this.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
HF True is also the ending followed by Battle Moon Wars, though that's a fan work.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Supposedly after either UBW end, Shinji's ordeal actually made him a much nicer person.

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Zahki
Nov 7, 2004

Sparks Liner High is the canon ending, it perfectly suits Shirou.

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