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Fantastic. I certainly didn't predict that as the final "Twilight Zone" like twist.
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Dec 4, 2011 22:56
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drat. That was dark and faintly disturbing but yeah original as hell and I hope we don't end up going that way in real life.
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DaWolfey posted:Fantastic. What was that? So the social commentary was "people like to watch other people destroy themselves"?
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Dec 4, 2011 22:57
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Am I alone in thinking that Revealing who did it sort of dulled the sharpness of it?
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Dec 4, 2011 22:57
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So Black Mirror was excellent. Excited for next weeks already.
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Dec 4, 2011 22:57
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I think we all know what we'd do if we were the PM and found ourselves in that position. We'd immediately promote Nick Clegg.
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Dec 4, 2011 22:58
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Ferrosol posted:drat. That was dark and faintly disturbing but yeah original as hell and I hope we don't end up going that way in real life. Ha, "end up"
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Dec 4, 2011 22:58
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Irisi posted:I think we all know what we'd do if we were the PM and found ourselves in that position. We'd immediately promote Nick Clegg. Yeah, like the kidnapper would take that poo poo.
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Dec 4, 2011 22:59
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The important question is, what is the Mail headline going to be?
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Dec 4, 2011 22:59
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I thought it was a bit hamfisted to be honest.
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Dec 4, 2011 22:59
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ConanThe3rd posted:Am I alone in thinking that Revealing who did it sort of dulled the sharpness of it? I don't know on the one hand it adds to the mystery and bizarreness of the whole event. On the other hand once they had the severed finger it was only a matter of time before they tracked down the culprit via DNA evidence and leaving that loose end untied would be a bit of a shame.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:00
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madey posted:I thought it was a bit hamfisted to be honest. I'd agree with that. Interesting though.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:00
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ConanThe3rd posted:Am I alone in thinking that Revealing who did it sort of dulled the sharpness of it? It did say that it was done to be art, ie not someone getting off to it or as a power trip, so making it just about the statement as an act.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:01
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madey posted:I thought it was a bit hamfisted to be honest. Withers posted:It did say that it was done to be art, ie not someone getting off to it or as a power trip, so making it just about the statement as an act. It's the difference between "It turns out it's man" and "It turns out it's a man". Anyway here's the synopsis for the next episode straight from the horse's mouth: quote:2. Fifteen Million Merits ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Dec 4, 2011 |
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Dec 4, 2011 23:02
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ConanThe3rd posted:Am I alone in thinking that Revealing who did it sort of dulled the sharpness of it? Really enjoyed it though.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:04
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I think I'm burnt out on Brooker. I didn't really like 10 O'Clock Live, couldn't be bothered with most of Newswipe, and didn't even plan to watch this. I actually really miss looking forward to his next show or article... 
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Dec 4, 2011 23:10
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ChuckDHead posted:I think I'm burnt out on Brooker. I didn't really like 10 O'Clock Live, couldn't be bothered with most of Newswipe, and didn't even plan to watch this. It had a few of the problems that Dead Set had, where a few of the characters were pushed too far into caricature without it being deliberate (the news editor and the PM's advisor woman), but as a drama it was really gripping.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:16
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Hoops posted:I think Charlie Brooker is terrible at everything except writing and should never be allowed in front of a camera ever. But this isn't like any of the shows he's on, I wouldn't have known he'd wrote it if it wasn't advertised. Are you kidding? It reads like one of his Guardian rants made real. It has Brooker written all over it: the media cynicism, the grotesque humour, etc. I found it gripping and brave, but man, the script and acting never really quite gel, do they? And the plot's so full of holes. How hard would it have been to notice that the finger didn't much look like that of a petite young royal woman's? edit: it reminded me in parts of The Thick of It (shared cast!) without the ultra-naturalistic script and acting. I keep thinking how great it'd be if Armando had directed/script-doctored instead, exorcise the forcedness of it all, but then it really would just feel like a Halloween episode of TTOI.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:19
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Hoops posted:I think Charlie Brooker is terrible at everything except writing and should never be allowed in front of a camera ever. But this isn't like any of the shows he's on, I wouldn't have known he'd wrote it if it wasn't advertised. So is it a straight drama or a black comedy? I'd heard that it was the latter in the run-up, but I'm not hearing anything that really suggests it now.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:20
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ChuckDHead posted:So is it a straight drama or a black comedy? I'd heard that it was the latter in the run-up, but I'm not hearing anything that really suggests it now. It's the blackest of comedies. Nothing in it is really going to make you laugh very much at all, but it's there.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:22
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I thought Black Mirror was supposed to be "darkly comic". 100% dark, 0% comedy.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:22
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ConanThe3rd posted:Please tell me that wasn't a pun... Yeah. Sorry. I thought that las scene was going to put on some bizarre horror twist where he was gonna turn round with a snout or go down to a dungeon with a pig or something. Gripping stuff though.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:23
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madey posted:I thought it was a bit hamfisted to be honest. In some cases, yeah. "I guess he knew we would all be too busy looking at screens" was missing a knowing look down the camera. The same message through the shots of Britain looking like a ghost nation was A++++ though and I'm looking forward to the next episode.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:24
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ChuckDHead posted:So is it a straight drama or a black comedy? I'd heard that it was the latter in the run-up, but I'm not hearing anything that really suggests it now. Depends on how your sense of humour runs I suppose.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:24
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It put me off beastality for life.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:36
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Grez posted:I thought Black Mirror was supposed to be "darkly comic". 100% dark, 0% comedy. Yeah, I've sort of started to turn away from things that describe themselves as "black comedy", since they usually just seem to be pitch-black and not at all comic. I went to see a performance of Alan Aykbourne's apparently blackly comic Man of the Moment, and genuinely failed to see how it in any way classed as a comedy.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:37
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Time to start an e-petition "We need to know; Dave, would you?"
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Dec 4, 2011 23:38
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Popcorn posted:Are you kidding? It reads like one of his Guardian rants made real. It has Brooker written all over it: the media cynicism, the grotesque humour, etc. I'm not saying it isn't making a similar point that he has in other things, but the delivery had a very different feel.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:39
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gwaaargh posted:a knowing look down the camera. There was a substitute for that, which was the little musical thing that played when something dark and oooooh was happening. And I did laugh, because it was so absurd! Them pausing to tell him that it was for real before carrying on with the actual demand? The way the press couldn't decide how to refer to the demand ? The picture that UKN showed displaying the hand in question from her wedding? The juxtaposition of everyone knowing exactly what the story was but the media having to tiptoe around it? The naked picture sending? The way the everyone was really into the idea of watching it and cheering like it was all a big laugh, then it actually happens and suddenly they all start turning away and it gets serious and they look disgusted all of a sudden? The demand itself? That he is being coached on how to act when he's on camera - "don't go too fast you might look too eager"? The two tv's with the same porn picture on it, provided as an "aid" (though I suspect it was a ch4 compliance problem that prevented it from being a video)? That it took him over an hour? None of that made anyone laugh? That's not to say that I wasn't disturbed, because it was pretty disturbing, but not funny? really?
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Dec 4, 2011 23:42
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Yeah, seconding that. I found it really funny. There were a bunch of laugh out loud moments in my house. Then again, maybe that says more about my family than the show. I don't know. Anyway, I really liked it.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:57
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If nothing else, I laughed at the "and the Guardian are running a live blog" line.
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Dec 4, 2011 23:59
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Hoops posted:It had a few of the problems that Dead Set had, where a few of the characters were pushed too far into caricature without it being deliberate (the news editor and the PM's advisor woman), but as a drama it was really gripping. I thought it was a spot on impersonation of Theresa May. Edit: also, is it just me or has there been a huge wave of "upper class" TV over the last year or two. Cake bake offs, Country House projects and there's some nonsense "The Manor Reborn" on BBC1 with a bunch of poshos going on about poshy things to do with some royal poshy house. Kin fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Dec 5, 2011 |
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Dec 5, 2011 00:04
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Kin posted:Edit: also, is it just me or has there been a huge wave of "upper class" TV over the last year or two. Don't forget about Downton Abbey.
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Dec 5, 2011 00:11
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So how did an artist working alone manage to kidnap a princess? I thought it was all a bit too stretched out to be honest. A decent idea, but everything with the special forces team etc. was just filler - obviously they wouldn't succeed and it would end up with the PM having to gently caress a pig. Because anything else wouldn't hit the appropriate levels of dark and edgy. The "the public are the real monsters for wanting to watch the PM gently caress a pig" moral was pretty heavy handed too.
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Dec 5, 2011 00:21
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FreakyZoid posted:The "the public are the real monsters for wanting to watch the PM gently caress a pig" moral was pretty heavy handed too. I thought it was more along the lines of "The media won't stop broadcasting the horrible poo poo they do because we all gather round to watch it, even if it's David Cameron loving a pig".
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Dec 5, 2011 00:27
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Managed to get 1 good laugh out of me (Guardian Live blog line) but other than that it wasn't really funny. If it's being pitched as a black comedy there should have been more than just 'isn't this absurd!' Honestly it felt a little like a swing and a miss, devoid of both humour or any content other than Brooker once again bleating about how TV mad we all are. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to sink another 80 hours into Skyrim.
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Dec 5, 2011 00:35
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Kin posted:Edit: also, is it just me or has there been a huge wave of "upper class" TV over the last year or two. You mean since Cameron was elected? 
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Dec 5, 2011 00:37
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No, he means ever since Family Fortunes got cancled.
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Sion posted:No, he means ever since Family Fortunes got cancled.
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